yes and gaining control of most of the country there's been a lot of debate regarding nato's role in it. to british m.p. who oppose the intervention in libya about the role western powers should now play in shaping the country's future. today i'm talking to barry gardener who's a labor member of parliament and one of the very few m.p.'s to a very against the intervention in libya mr gardiner thanks for talking to r.t. today now we see that the rebels if we can still call them lads have practically taken tripoli and that gaddafi looks like he's lost the fight have you changed your mind about the libyan intervention the point is the legitimacy of it and that's what i created in the beginning and i think most people would agree that it was right to intervene on humanitarian grounds to save the people of benghazi that was never the issue the issue was all whether nato should then become involved as

effectively the strikeforce for the rebel corps and that's what it's been and that of course was in my view way beyond the brief that the united nations had given and it was wrong it was not the should have been about regime change a civil war in libya is something for them it's not something for the rest of the world to intervene how do you wish it could have been different then what would you have done if you'd been in charge i think what we should have seen is we should have seen an intervention by the forces that went in to stop that attack on benghazi to neutralize gadhafi and to make sure that he then did not conduct any aggressive sorties as he had previously been doing but not that they should then become the air on the straight forward for the rebels david cameron said a few days ago that nato would lend support in libya for as long as civilians need protecting what was your reaction to that is that open ended commitment is it

sounds. it was very clear in the original un resolution it was very clear when our prime minister spoke in parliament here that there would be no. occupation force that would be totally wrong and one of the things that troubled me all was this bill as to whether there should be troops on the ground and of course that wasn't expressly prohibited by the resolution but but it was something that i think all of us were very concerned about. what we saw as the rebels were going into tripoli the other day certainly on the radio programs that were broadcast in the u.k. we would go left go left go left these instructions being yelled out by what were obviously british soldiers british personnel who were leading that

advance group now that i think is where we've overstepped the line there's also now talk of pursing peacekeeping forces on the ground in libya i've seen that something you oppose but you know decimated country with no structures for maintaining order now is that not the only way i don't believe it is i don't believe it's right that we should be staying there effectively to establish the new regime that's that's not what this was originally about it was about humanitarian protection now let me be clear i'm very pleased to see the back of gadhafi was a very evil dictator the sooner he was in front of all international criminal court the better. and i'm very glad that his days are now at an end. i wish the new regime well but i think it's important that they establish their regime they prove to the international community that they have the capacity not to tear

themselves into different factions and to libya as a strong unified government but that's their responsibility you supported the invasion of iraq back in two thousand and. three why is this a difference it's very different. the invasion of iraq was because. saddam hussein had refused to reveal as he was obliged to under the chapter seven of the united nations resolution whether or not he had got rid of all the clear chemical. biological weapons that he knew he had previously and. he refused to do that even as late as february hans blix was saying we do not know whether he still has these he listed a whole load of v.x. nerve gas mustard gas different agents chemical agents so we didn't know and he was

not willing to allow. other countries to come to interview the scientists to see or details to know whether he got rid of them or not in that situation it would have been ludicrous to have had a million strong army that was on the doorstep of iraq simply go away when the resolution fourteen forty one had given iran given him a final opportunity to comply with his obligations how the world done that then what would have happened is he would have simply rebuilt those programs with impunity knowing that he was absolutely untouchable and the world would not do anything against him we would have then been precipitated into a far more major conflict into the in the middle east between iran and iraq with devastating consequences destruction of the world's oil supplies it was a terrible situation and it was right that we took the action that we did now and the fact that the united nations didn't sanction it in terms of

a second resolution does not change the fact that fourteen forty one said it was the final opportunity for him to comply now i'm a parent i have children i know that if i tell my children please come and do the washing up and they don't do it and i say look i've told. once already please come up if you have twelve years of that which is what we had with saddam hussein and you then come to the point where you say this is your final chance and he still does not comply then it's important that you take the ultimate sanction after that what about what happened afterwards there in both iraq and afghanistan the real violence began after the dictatorships were toppled do you see that happening in libya i think there is a danger of this and what you saw was certainly in iraq was a complete failure of the occupying powers then to stabilize the situation and they let the the iraqi army keep their weapons but they disbanded the army and they said

you must go back to your villages but you can keep your weapons this was insanity absolutely insanity and we must not be in a position where what we've done is created greater instability in libya that is absolutely clear. but nonetheless we equally must avoid is becoming an occupation force i think afghanistan is a very good example russia has a very bitter experience of afghanistan as does britain of being an occupying power and you start off being a friend of someone and you end up being hated by everyone an occupying force is a very dangerous place to be and you should get out as quickly as you can what's the middle way that some would argue that nato stepping in has made the situation worse is it not their nature his responsibility to stay and clear up the matter you pose the question that really is how do you get to where you want to be and of

course the answer is well i wouldn't have started from here but you're right we're now in this situation and therefore what we have to do is to ensure that we provide support for stability without our cells being that stabilizing. military force it must not be that the new government relies on the military of britain and nato in order to maintain power they must be able to do that on their own we can give advice we can give help to help them stabilize the situation but we must not assume responsibility ourselves government insists that lessons were learned from what happened in iraq but given the way that this conflict been conducted do you believe that it's always a danger for every government in my view and every army to be fighting the last war. what you do is you learn lessons from one conflict which you then take on to the next but usually what you forget is that the

context of the situation is different the next time and therefore the lessons that you've learned from the previous experience may not be appropriate in the conflict that you are now fighting you mentioned the factions inside the national transitional council we now know that some of these factions are religious groups who hope to establish an islamic state in libya what will the attitude to that be do you think. nato and from the libyans themselves will they get a voice in this new democracy it's not for nato or for the else to allow but it's for the people of libya to decide what they want to do it's for them to decide their own future. in this country and. all across the world people have had to learn to live. with the fact that we have different religious views different ethical views nonetheless we have to live

together we have to spine some means of sharing a society sharing the country and making it work for all of us i believe the people of libya are no less capable of doing that than the people of. the people of the united kingdom do you think that ultimately. will cause more trouble in the middle east after all already deeply unstable so i think the most serious i think it will if if if nato stays there as an occupation force but i don't think that is going to happen and i think the really troubling conflicts in the middle east at the moment are within syria i think if you look at bahrain and the way in which saudi arabia went into bahrain to prop up the oligarchy there against the wishes of the people these are the flashpoints in the middle east that still have not. and that is going to happen once people have scented revolution once they have

seen that freedom and a better life is possible i don't think they will go back to the yoke of the talk or see god and thank you very much. nearly a billion people in the world for going hungry. in the united states even our trash cans are filled with food you just have to go get it all of these perfectly good eggs because one was cracked didn't even get all over the other ones just threw them away and she's from the german oh you know we really like that upper class. from the dumpster at one am this morning three pm this afternoon on the grill. made one doesn't dumpster. delicious breakfast

for the family eats and throws for about a week every year in america we throw away ninety six billion pounds of. observe nature and discover its beauty. communicate with the wild and. test yourself and become free. to. see what nature can give you. i got out of the military in nineteen sixty six i got over because it's the same say saw the things i was doing and this is the reason we were given for doing them

it was a personal protest. during the vietnam war an antiwar movement emerged that altered the course of history this movement didn't take place on college campuses but in berets and on ships penetrated elite military colleges like west point and it spread throughout the battlefields of vietnam. today few people know about the g.i. movement against the war in vietnam. ask the army will we set free the army or fun travel and adventure but it really meant the army. in the united kingdom is available in the house bill and forty one hotel the old waverly hotel to get him closer to the mill stone hotel some country house holiday in the cool old goldman tells the rim brands the crewmates the chesterfield the

montague hotels the local the rubens hotel. water and food shortages bring libya to the brink of a humanitarian crisis and the opposition again side of it will not negotiate with a fugitive colonel. for violence as reported syria government a time thing. implement reforms that's one of the solutions of the country's long standing crisis becomes an ample of discord between russia and its western partners . and the e.u. called a special meeting of the blocs top level financial officials to resolve the growing differences on how to hold that contagion as we've been looking on. all the latest from the world of sports is next with natasha.

thanks and he's there watching these sports law in r.t.l. headlines best spoils shad moscow's most fiery football dobby ends up all squared with the inspired. final cut russia's basketball school for the fost approaching european championships in the third any is announced. and also raises last almost beyond wins a marathon five man playoff to claim the johnny walker championship at gleneagles. and let's kick off with football where sunday saw a crack all the most in the russian prime a league spartak hosting the leading says scott evolution at the stadium spartak went into the glass following a disappointing exit from the euro cups last week but it was their other whites who seized the initial safe ride before the break while it's on heading home meant that he come borrow scrawls shot. tried back into itself though the break no the greatest all defending from host spartak alone so you do beyond to take full advantage. and one will become to sixty nine minutes and again spike looking

less than inspirational at the bags or on the mound this time finding the net that says however the following strike the goal of the whole weekend probably would guarantees for a bike at least a point among many key letting report to all with the beautiful that's the way it would stay between the seating rivals. that school line meaning cisco have company at the summit for the first time in months as they need joining the army man on top following a five mill threshing all have secrets no darker like somebody gets shuffled helping himself to brace before the whole fall of all king st petersburg to do what donny the final eleven minutes will bent into a goal fest get a shot call flaming. patrick from the battle to spot before a brilliant volley from local from a fool nailed five minutes from time the icing on the cake coming could see dani

a delightful chip making its. on the chart meets. elsewhere see the denominator of the pressure. off to sing off spartak knowledge chick to nail fellow most of us looking mighty also want to gain. souls fourth place will be at helm to create. now smiles all across a man just on sunday off to both the red and blue halls of the say to erect a cricket school's online the english premier league result of the day and caring at old trafford where man united hands adults and all they have is defeat in eighty four yes don't adjust your screen the score is quite right eight two how is wayne rooney never again had tricky bit absolute demolition job there as in jacko meanwhile held himself to full goals as much the city around out five one win as a way to pointless spurs united and saves you both top of the table with maximum

points off to three games wins also on the day for stoke and. now the spanish prometa league season kicked off this week and champions boss long are in action late today against really areola and they are already paying catch up second favorites for the spanish title real madrid hitting set of goals a full six on sunday goal number one simplicity itself taking up christianity and all the opens the scoring twenty four minutes and marcello would find that minutes late so i was number three arriving off to the alamo alone so the mound foundering home from outside the area. by the time our knowledge ahead that he's second and rails fooled it was much too easy for the visit this time taking full advantage of the space in front of these are also goals. for a male to his for the hat trick would usually arrive for an all girl band the easiest of tappings for the most expensive the blocking the well so six nail the final score rails for

a first league grounding for. meanwhile david blog named his final russian school for the twenty eleven european basketball championships before they had a golf tournament stop and we thought anywhere and the stars to my famous goal find on the take it a new car expected to add to the team they'll have some new team mates. a small forward thought of has been given an inaugural call up while you've seen you've worn enough is surprisingly absent it's a skosh shooting god left out by blood despite having a solid outing at the finals last year and the country's best warming up here against and the tank using a spot tougher contrition awaits and a form of ukraine on the face of festival guest. meanwhile so russia's best hockey player as i said to face off against each other for a noble cause that exam that i bitch can and. make that same for a charity match on wednesday the game being hosted for the second straight and proceeds will go to disabled children and to moscow region town of santa gave.

presidential aide out of the water for beach instrumental in bringing this initiative to life and he'll be lacing up the skates as well gainey malkan pov about so i don't see models of but his goal of just some of the names on the all star latest total of thirty five players is five minutes of that same average kids know that schools will be looking to get one back from a year ago. alex and i believe in doing this because we have a lot of children in this country who need to howard this year's match for the future two periods of thirty minutes and the players will get to see them you are stars from the hockey road as well it's a pleasure to want to hold the kids because i think it's on grateful to be in a position to help others and not give back as far as the match we want to win this game like last year we should be able to find a way to take big three as we'll have more. and others for us.

switching to golf now it's almost be your unhealed days now have to secure the johnnie walker championship title the dentist fending off the competition and a five hole blow for his twelfth european to victory and you're on finishing the day on three on the sixty nine tied with four stud george. and. richmond five eggs to holes and kept swinging away as he watched his big. contention on the first and second respectively for existed next on hill now both full with your clothes on and out after that said mr birdie chance the forty year old securing his second way in the season he also finished fourth the british open this year. now and move the g.b. case a stone was finally able to conquer the break here at circuit of the indianapolis grand prix the australian racing due to his seventh win all the season after failing to make the podium during his two previous attempts in the indy own poll

for the race but it was dani pedrosa who got off to one of these trademark false start stealing the lead stoner stayed calm though eventually passing his honda teammate seven maintained that second for the position as. spies and more yellow around so so will the ride as of now won three straight races held on american soil with stone and his third consecutive victory his lead the reigning champion lower crazing to forty four points overall. and back to russian football finally where nineteen goals have been schooled in the premier league over the weekend in case you missed any of those heroes our weekly goals galore. well you. live

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question. no water and food shortages bring libya to the brink of a humanitarian crisis that the opposition again says it will not negotiate with a fugitive colonel gadhafi. more violence is reported in syria amid government attempts to implement reforms a smaller solution to the country's longstanding crisis becomes an apple of discord between russia and its western partners. surviving on scraps while u.s. carmakers who once received the balance are now reaping the rewards more and more locals in detroit are forced to deal in facts crap just to make ends meet. was a real out of those world experience a russian built orbital hotel is due to be put into space in just five years but those were cast to splash on the picture you.