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welcome back now here's a recap of the main stories we're covering today on taking water and it flew to shore to just bring libya to the brink of a humanitarian crisis as the opposition again says it will not negotiate with a fugitive colonel gadhafi. more violence is reported in a syria on a government attempts to implement reforms that allows while a solution to the country's longstanding crisis becomes an apple of discord between russia and its western partners. tall beautiful shoals once again to found the blocks efforts in saving the euro the death contagion sweeping the concert and even as they warned of the euro zone's already dismal economic growth
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is likely to slow and for. now back to libya in the wake of the rebel success in gaining control of most of the country there's been a lot of debate regarding nato's role in its artie's the war and that has asked a british m.p. who oppose intervention in libya about the role western powers should play in shaping the country's future. today i'm talking to barry gardener he's a labor member of parliament and one of the very few m.p.'s to a very serious against the intervention in libya mr gardiner thanks for talking to r.t. today now we see that the rebels if we can still call them that have practically taken tripoli and it looks like he's lost the fight have you changed your mind about the libyan intervention the point is the legitimacy of it and that's what i create in the beginning and i think most people would agree that it was right to
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intervene on humanitarian grounds to save the people of benghazi that was never the its you who was all this whether nato should then become involved as effectively the strikeforce for the rebel course and that's what it's been and that of course was in my view way beyond the brief that the united nations had given and it was wrong it was not that this should have been about regime change a civil war in libya is something for them it's not something for the rest of the world to intervene how do you wish it could have been different then what would you have done if you'd been in charge i think we should have seen the news we should have seen an intervention by the forces that went in to stop that attack on benghazi to neutralize gadhafi and to make sure that he then did not conduct any aggressive sorties as he had previously been doing but not that they should then become the air on the strike force for the rebels david cameron said
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a few days ago that nato would lend support in libya for as long as civilians need protecting what was your reaction to that is that open ended commitment as it sounds. it was very clear in the original un resolution it was very clear for our prime minister spoke in parliament here that there would be no. haitian force that would be totally wrong one of the things that in a troubled new york was this ambivalence as to whether there should be troops on the ground and of course that wasn't expressly prohibited by the resolution but but it was something that i think all of us were very concerned about. what we saw as the rebels were going into tripoli the other day certainly the radio programs that were broadcast in the u.k.
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we would go left go left go left these instructions being yelled out by what were obviously british soldiers british personnel who were leading that advance group now that i think is where we've overstepped the line there's also now talk of pursing peacekeeping forces on the ground in libya i seen that something you oppose but you know decimated country with no structures or maintaining order now is that not the only way i don't believe it is i don't believe it's right that we should be staying there. to establish a new regime that's not what this was originally about it was about humanitarian protection let me be clear i'm very pleased to see the back of gadhafi this is a very evil dictator and the sooner he is in from the whole the international criminal court the better. and i'm very glad his days are now at their.
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i wish for the new regime well but i think it's important that they establish their regime they prove to the international community that they have the capacity not to tear themselves into different factions and to live. as a strong and unified government but that's their responsibility you supported the invasion of iraq back in two thousand and. three why is the difference so it's very different to. the invasion of iraq because. saddam hussein had refused to reveal as from was obliged to under the chapter seven of the united nations resolution whether or not he had got rid of all through the nuclear chemical. biological weapons that he knew he had previously thought he refused to do. even as late as every hans blix was saying we do not know whether he still has
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these he listed a whole load of v.x. nerve gas mustard gas the different agents chemical agents so we didn't know and he was. willing to allow. other countries to come to interview the scientists to see the order trails to know whether he got rid of them or not in that situation it would have been ludicrous to have had a million strong army that was on the doorstep of iraq simply go away when the resolution fourteen forty one had given iraq given a final opportunity to comply with its obligations how the world done that then what would've happened is he would have simply rebuilt those programs with impunity knowing that he was absolutely untouchable and the world would not do anything against him we would have then been precipitated into a far more major conflict into the in the middle east between iran and iraq with devastating consequences destruction of the world's oil supplies it was
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a terrible situation and it was right that we took the action that we did you know the fact that the united nations didn't sanction it in terms of a second resolution does not change the fact that fortune forty one said it was the final opportunity for him to comply now i'm a parent i have children i know that if i tell my children please come and do the washing up and they can do it and i say look i've told. once already please come before she got up if you have twelve years of that which is what we had with saddam hussein and you then come to the point where you say this is your final chance and he still does not comply then it's important that you take the ultimate sanction of what about what happens afterwards there in both iraq and afghanistan the real violence began after the dictatorships were toppled do you see that happening in libya i think there is a danger of this and what you saw was certainly in iraq was
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a complete failure of the occupying powers then to stabilize the situation they let the the iraqi army keep their weapons but they disbanded the army they said you must go back to your villages but you can keep your weapons this is insanity absolutely insanity and we must not be in a position to prove what we've done is creating greater instability in libya that is absolutely clear. but nonetheless equally must avoid is becoming an occupation force i think afghanistan is a very good example russia has a very bitter experience of a. as as does britain of being an occupying power and you start off being a friend of someone and you end up being hated by everyone an occupying force is a very dangerous place to be and you should get out as quickly as you can what's the middle way that some would argue that nato is stepping in has made this
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situation worse is it not their nature is responsibility to stay and clear up the math and you pose the question that really is how do you get to where you want to be and of course the answer is well i wouldn't have started from here but you're right we're now in this situation and therefore what we have to do is to ensure that we provide support for stability without our cells being that stabilizing. military force not eat that the new government relies on the military of britain and nato in order to maintain power they must be able to do that on their own we can give advice we can give help to help them stabilize the situation but we must not assume that responsibility ourselves governments insists that lessons were learned for what happened in iraq given the way that this conflict been conducted do you believe that it's always a danger for every government if you and every army to be
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fighting the last war. what you do is you learn lessons from one conflict which you then take on to the next but usually what you forget is the context of the situation is different the next time and therefore the lessons that you've learned from the previous experience may not be appropriate in the conflict that you are now fighting and you mentioned the factions inside the national transitional council we now know that some of its factions are religious groups who hope to establish an islamic state in libya how what will the attitude to that be do you think with from nato and from the libyans themselves will they get a voice in this new democracy wrote it's not for nato or for the else to allow but it's for the people of libya to decide what they want to do it's for them to decide their own future. in this country and.
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all across the world people have had to learn to live. with the fact that we have different religious views different ethical views nonetheless we have to live together we have to spine some means of sharing a society sharing the country and making it work for all of us i believe the people of libya are no less capable of doing that than the people of them. erica for the people of the united kingdom do you think that ultimately natives attention will cause more trouble in the middle east a region that it's after all already deeply unstable so i think the most serious i think it will it if nato stays there as an occupation force but i don't think that is going to happen i think the really troubling conflicts in the middle east at the moment are within syria i think if you look at bahrain and the way in which saudi arabia went into bahrain to prop up the oligarchy there against the wishes of the people these are the flashpoints in the middle east that still have not there that
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is going to happen. once people have scented revolution once they have seen that freedom and a better life is possible i don't think they will go back under the yoke of the bodyguard thank you very much. couldn't take three days for three. three. three stooges three. three volunteers in video for your media projects street medio john darche john tom. nearly a billion people in the world are going to. the united states even our trash
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or fun travel and adventure but it really meant the army. the laws are to water and food ashore just bring libya to the brink of a humanitarian crisis as the opposition again says it will not negotiate with a fugitive colonel gadhafi. more violence is reported in syria and the government attempts to implement reforms about swallow a solution to the conference last outing hearts just becomes an awful of discord if the russia and its western partners and. top e.u. officials once again defend the block south for instance saving the euro from the debt contagion sweeping the concert that even as they warn of the euro zone's already dismal economic growth is likely to slow even further. well now it's time for the latest of the world sports with that's awesome.
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thank you jesse watching the sport live on r.t.l. headlines athletics well finals continued on monday with their nobles deprived of his gold in the one hundred ten town metres hurdles. final contrasts basketball schooled for the fast approaching european championships and me for any a has been announced. and also raise a glossed on his view on wins a marathon five month playoff to claim the johnnie walker championship at gleneagles. and we begin with a thirty six where the winner of monday's one hundred ten metres hurdles has been denied is well championship gold there on robles disqualified following approach this from luke song who came third the chinese out as the world record holder robles slowed him down by pulling him in the final metres the episode was reviewed
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by field judges leading to their window being disqualified it means they initially runner up american jason richardson now takes the gold some grabs the sofa while and return of great britain is awarded the bronze medal. it means you could have been driving you know in their. home honestly believe here i don't know what medal but i mean you know i didn't know we're going to get out in the world or they. are just very much like. what you see them so much. american carmelita jeter meanwhile has one gold in the women's one hundred meters in town point ninety seconds there on a council brown of jamaica plain so while cali on but t. stop trinidad and tobago two big bronze medal. i get it like a gay bar in there come out of nowhere so i'm pretty excited for the.
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the press room. you know that's my baby that marie so i gave out here so now i got it right over two hundred. i'm staying in tech awareness to see if my kids go brush a plane bronze in the four hundred meters the russian talking fifty point twenty four seconds to round out the podium behind winner and mildly moncho and second placed allyson felix and another russian athlete and then you know could have a shop finished fifth. elsewhere also pistorius went out of the four hundred metres at the semifinal stage still and the story for months from the south african who is the first double amputee to see possible world finals for able bodied athletes. you know which i'm very excited for. it's been a great experience coming out it's. not only just from an explosion of which this is a learning curve we are going. memories of will stay with me through supported school to the trough and it's just been
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a big decision. hope that you sort of have an opportunity to run in the field well . now david plotz has named his final russians scored for that swept eleven european basketball championships before the team had a goal for wednesday's tournaments start in lithuania and bay styles that might be a must go for and andre can expect that and because it seems that they'll have something new teammates as well and you know good small forward simonon throwing up has been given an all your all caught. up in a surprisingly absence of a discussion to god left out by blocked on having a solid outing at the world finals last year the country's best warming up your case and a soup users but some tougher competition awaits in the form of ukraine on the sez he first of all this. when you also russia's best hockey players are set to face off against each other for a noble cause alexander ovechkin and daly a coach age big their teams for a charity match on wednesday the game being hosted for the second straight year and proceeds will go to disabled children in the moscow region town of said he
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presidential a that because you've got a core which instrumental in bringing this initiative to life and he will be lacing up this case as well you've been involved in total but soberly say models of that we have a skull of just four names on the all star based a total of thirty five players is the minutes of that seam and a vision is loaded schools will be looking to get one back from a year ago. i believe in doing good deeds because we have a lot of children in this country who need our help this year's match will feature two periods of thirty minutes each and the crews will get to see the numerous stars from outside the hockey world as well. we want to help the kids because i think it's under a fool to be in a position to help others and not give back as far as the match we want to win unlike last year we should be able to find a way to take a victory as we have more danni's a report an equal asia and other suit not for us. so it's into golf when it's on
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his bjorn how does nerve to secure the johnnie walker championship title the dentist but john fending off the competition in a five hole playoff for his twelfth european to victory here and finishing the day all three under sixty nine tied with marc forster george could see was bigger and bubble of the example which meant by the extra holes bjorn kept swinging away as he watched the. drop out of contention on the first and second respectively. than exited next stonehill not go forward beyond closing it out on the field see mr griffin chance reports here although securing his second victory of the season he also finished fourth and the british record this year. now the n.f.l. preseason is waning down with new orleans showcasing the same high powered scoring attack which around them the super bowl title a few years ago the oakland raiders the fans with few answers for drew brees and company in its wednesday point saints victory the visiting new orleans struck first
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though but the raiders out third ride back for derek hagan inside the game seven the piece from neighboring a massive steel farm that do that two thousand and nine super bowl tracy porter on his way to the end zone plenty of running and passing overall with taiwan drills again leveling the clash at seventeen all this time with a twenty two yard scout for. the saints were down for a while before scoring three straight touchdowns one backup cheesey then the field this is the first of that's really a three or past of tory home free forty that's when see the big final score in oakland. and back to russian football finally when one thousand girls have been scored in the premier league over the weekend in case you missed any of those here is our weekly goals goal or.
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