welcome to the lower show ok for real headlines with none of the marcy parking lot in washington d.c. now it's not i will continue to look at the situation in libya as the violence goes on and reports of extrajudicial killings on both sides raise questions about the rebels of the international community has accepted and we're going to speak to fast track here from the center for american progress on their details a new report about the money that islamophobia here in the u.s. and congress is once again moving to create a global gag order on u.s. aid to abortion and reproductive health services to look at the past the history of population control to see where fears stem from and ask how we can move on or not

all of that and more fair or not including a dose of happy hour but first let's take a look at what the mainstream media has decided to me. all right so hurricane irene so i flew the east coast of the u.s. this weekend and while here in the feet painfully didn't really do much damage other areas weren't as lucky so over the weekend we saw a lot of mainstream media coverage of this some very useful warning people about what areas of the hardest hit where the shelters are what to do what precautions to take and we have course also saw an insane amount of t.v. reporters braving the weather during those live shots while they nearly blow away that everyone loves so much but today it's already on the damage control and of course the money. twenty seven people have been killed on the seven million dollars hour they didn't have power at the height of the storm this needed seven billion dollars in damage but it is not over yet now the total according to one insurance

expert likely to be ten billion dollars a cost of the damage that storm claiming at least twenty four lives and it left millions of people without power at all and caused billions of dollars in damage at this time. so some estimates say seven billion dollars some say ten billion dollars some say even more let's face it natural disasters the cleanup the reconstruction that entails they cost a lot of money but there could be a very example of what government funds are for when you need a federal system that can handle such a massive response problems of course puts anti government spending republicans going to occur carious position they're not going to say no don't fund the rescue and relief and reconstruction efforts so they have to swallow a little bit of pride admit that this is going to be an area where federal money needs to be spent and of course with the threat take eric cantor for example. but in instances like this yes there's a federal role yes we're going to fund the money we're just going to need to make

sure that there are savings elsewhere to continue to do so. oh you need to make sure that there are savings elsewhere to continue to do so how come i get the feeling that those savings are going to come from other much needed programs per se i don't know education health care unemployment benefits that's right because we have a military industrial complex that controls washington and that always wins and they always win because we have an important media that refuses to call out our lawmakers on this problem so i'm a volunteer to point to some areas and the bloated security defense budget where savings could be found so that americans can recover from hurricane irene from the storms in joplin or even from hurricane katrina it's been six years today since she hit there still a lot of work to be done in new orleans now example number one according to the center. public integrity as i watch news the amount in no bid contracts of the pentagon handed out last year has reached a whopping one hundred and forty billion dollars that's almost forty percent of all kind of gone contract spending and that is way up in the fifty billion that was

given out in two thousand and one and they have a no bid contract means that means that there is no competition for it just belongs to one contractor and just like that they get to name a price that received efficient to you it's so ironic considering all these free market believing politicians don't seem to have a problem with this but you don't let competition in industry dictate the terms just one spoiled contractor and that's a lot of money and that's hurricane irene times twenty but let's move on how about this one it turns out that since two thousand and one the pentagon has spent more than seven hundred twenty million dollars in late fees for shipping containers and they didn't return on time late fees that is what i would definitely call spending they can also look to the seventy five billion dollars a year that is being spent on homeland security by federal and state governments surely you can argue that some of that has definitely been useful has been necessary but then does deceit really need its own nine time armored vehicle

because the state of nebraska really need votes with sonar full face mask to look for al qaeda sleeper cells putting explosives on a boat in nebraska i don't know but it looks like it's actually needs to be looked into which that element at least the l.a. times did today but that is just the tip of the iceberg we now have an entire homeland security industry that's expected to grow to market worth thirty one billion dollars by two thousand and fourteen so those are a few examples and you know that we provide you with more projects that run over budget that don't work that are unnecessary all the time on this show but when undoubtedly it was more than just eric cantor going on the mainstream networks talking about the need to pare hurricane irene spending with more cuts well you're not going to hear any questions about this coming from wasteful defense you know despite the overwhelming amount of information out there that counts. reports on projects this pacifically do not work in our waste i mean it's remedial just let them go on about social programs and i'm sorry but they gotta go they're going to do all of that without countering it with all the examples i just noted here

because that's what they choose to miss. the war in libya continues to be bloody and brutal rebel forces are still on the hunt for moammar gadhafi and his family and the evidence is mounting on both sides of mass murders extra judicial killings taking place both by gadhafi loyalists and the rebels so once again we have to start asking if this might put a dent in the international community's growing acceptance of the transitional national council well they consider the rebels actions as crimes against humanity or just those of the loyalists and if this war has been a lesson for other leaders in the arab world so one of stepping down our quite the opposite ramping up their efforts to gain large interest my friends join me to discuss this is jack rice former cia officer and criminal defense attorney jack i want to thank you so much for joining us tonight and first tartars let's start with some of this news here of mass murders that may have gone on the evidence i lean on

by gadhafi loyalists at the same time you have reports of action usually killings by the rebel forces how does that complicate what the international community's doing here in terms of choosing sides. well i'll tell you what it's a great question you know why because what the west what it with the americans really want is they want to call these guys. it's right the rebels are the good guys the loyalists are the bad guys you have a nice clean right it's very simple to soldiers you could be everybody just stuck with money just. participation support in any sense of the word but when all of this sort of becomes bloody becomes unclear really good at who the bad guys are in a lot of people started asking that very question are we. supporting somebody who is like gadhafi somebody used maybe as bad or worse maybe even worse to get off but do you think they were hearing and nuff of those questions because you know for

example you already have the t.n.c. saying that they can't wait to take their sea at the u.n. you already have the i.m.f. making statements that they are prepared to now accept the rebels as well into the i.m.f. you have organizations international organizations that seem very quick and very willing to give a seat at the table. but without question in fact it's already happened or multiple countries that are already accepted you can see as the leadership officially so you who's going to one you've got a lot of things already they're expecting to drop the one point two billion dollars essentially in beer he hands it was coming up in a matter of days the italians have just stepped up on this issue the americans are started getting closer and closer to the line but now there are a lot of people who believe questioning as their leadership who are bengazi into turkey and serve exactly who they are and this is a question frankly should have been asking a very long ago frequently what we have seen is those who are against it are yes some of those have democracy you heard but you know what there was another group

there who was very much against gadhafi was that was al qaeda so there were protocol coded to the south that were fighting against him and so some of the reports have said have wound up closer with the rebels so you know there's a lot of people started legitimately so if you're one of those was very smart people can ask that very question who are these people and why are we supporting such he says well you know i think one of the things that we did see was you could say originally when president obama decided to unilaterally get us involved in this war you saw some people on television screens especially those that were opposed to obama's policies questioning who the rebels are questioning whether there might be some extremist elements within there but then do you feel like the media's just kind of give it up guy you know there was a hurricane going on on the east coast and we also had an earthquake. me but compared to the previously cat rebels that already said that they've taken tripoli which it now turns out has become much more of a drawn out and more complicated fight to make a fun forgot about it oh they absolutely have they have dropped the ball so clearly

i think part of the problem right now is that americans are very very busy looking at a lot of issues domestically and that's where they feel they need to focus and sadly the american government continues to work and speak it dear to me and so when they make decisions like these this is something that impacts you actually it impacts children if everybody across the country it is they the cue to watch it but we're not really hearing much about it i think part of the problem to get him or he to make this here is sort of what i see in europe versus what i see in the states is the states have this very strange sort of republican versus democratic you were in so if you're a republican you argue a republican talking points if you're a democrat you are you can't really talking it's inverted loser somebody in the middle so if you're wrong you're wrong it will go after birds in europe typically you have both parties and so regularly if something is wrong there will be a lot of people not just the opposing party saying it's wrong not because it's

politically wahoo because it's actually warm and we're not really seeing it that much here because when you see president obama over go again all of a sudden the democrats sit on their hands a was a new look and it's a we decided we were coming up on election a lot of things are happening and so we'll just say that it's good enough all that's not good enough. high def i think a bear is you know an inability for people to rise against her or rise above really in trying to look at the bigger picture here you know one of the things that i've been going on and on about here on this show is the fact that no matter what ends up happening in libya doesn't change the fact that the president went into this illegally that he didn't ask congress and i think that sets a dangerous precedent here at home for what our politicians might do in the future and that's what the table is a little bit too right let's think about the past and. terms of moammar gadhafi and how he once was the pariah that then our politicians including john mccain and lindsey graham and jill lieberman who were just there in two thousand and nine decided to be friend it wanted to see you know give weapons to as long as he gave

up his weapons of mass destruction well that obviously didn't last very long how quickly they turned on him and what kind of message do you think of that sense to other people out there to awkward in asia or to bashar al assad where they want to now step down with a every want to make a deal with the united states or trust them if they flip on gadhafi so quickly corsica i mean if you're assad i'd let's let's talk syria right now but what's more you're rods that need to go. but if you look you were serious right now what you're dealing with you know what he's thinking about he's thinking about bar he's thinking about gadhafi were over so the americans were talking about just how we were this need was as an ally i don't think you've got egypt and then of course what we saw just recently with it off you know all of a sudden we're the devil is hard it just doesn't happen overnight and yet obviously we can say one thing and do something completely different so regardless of what the americans say you know regarding what's going on in syria doesn't matter

because he knows and frankly the rest of the middle east knows that we say a lot of things that we absolutely do not mean and you want to talk a lot about it parker see if i want to sleep really has been more obvious more appropriate than what we've seen in the middle east and i'm specifically talking about what the americans have done in places like egypt and in libya and iran and iraq and the list goes on and all in all yeah i think it's going to continue to raise a lot of questions in the future jack thanks so much for joining us tonight. if you very much. also to come tonight if i'm a phobia network here in the u.s. rise of a small for if i get a lot of money so who's funding it and therefore shed some light on that issue and i will dive into that engine so much. internet only when you look at the mechanisms and you don't work up to bring justice or accountability the. guy has every right to know what my government

should do if you want to know why i pay taxes. but i would characterize obama as a charismatic version of american exceptionalism. you know some leisure see a story and it seems so for like sleep you think you understand it and then a glimpse something else you hear or see some other part of it and realize that everything is ok if you don't i'm sorry look at the big picture. says. let's not forget that we had an apartheid regime right here.

i think iraq is needed and wanted well. whenever the government says they're for keeping safe get ready because you're looking for freedom. for. food for.

it's opic it's been highly scrutinized the legality of the bush administration's warrantless surveillance program and one researcher at times and find out how john yoo felt about all of this when he wrote an opinion for the office of legal counsel back in two thousand and one charge of this researcher's a freedom of information act requests has been denied by the current department of justice because they say it's classified so what is a big deal well let me give you a brief back story here before we all knew about the patriot act there was the foreign intelligence surveillance act or is that how this legislation was originally drawn up back in one thousand nine hundred eighty eight and it provided the exclusive means by which other tronic surveillance and interception of domestic wire oral and electric communications may be conducted however it's also required a special federal court approval before conducting acts of surveillance but of course the bush administration well they have found that to be a hassle for their spying efforts so that's when you offered up his official legal

opinion in the memo now knowledge of this memo is nothing new years ago members of congress also wanted to know what was included in the classified information so after pleading with the office of legal counsel one ally only one lied was declassified and shared to the public and it read unless the congress made a clear statement in the foreign intelligence surveillance act that it sought to restrict presidential authority to conduct warrantless searches in the national security area which it has not and the statute must be construed to avoid such a reading so in other words you said the bush era governments get interpreted by the law to their liking because congress didn't specifically rule out the way the governments want to wants to enact that law and as you can imagine when this one line of the memos are pressed members of congress are pretty outraged senator sheldon whitehouse gave a state. saying i cannot reconcile the plain language of pfizer that it is the exclusive procedure for electronic surveillance of americans with the o l c opinion saying congress didn't say that once again behind the veil of secrecy oh well see

appears to have cooked up extravagant or misguided legal theories which would never survive the light of day so now we understand why this information is so highly sought after perhaps it makes little sense or overly censored current administration wants to keep news opinion under wraps he's made no secret about how he feels about the fourth amendment and he thinks that this piece of the constitution doesn't really apply when the us is conducting domestic intelligence operations and we all are where well well aware of us resume remember he's the guy the author of the cia's famous torture memos i mean enhanced interrogation techniques so why does the obama administration ok with keeping all this information secret to save face and we don't know but for now we can just add that to the list of bush era practices of the obama administration is hell bent on protecting from public scrutiny. so now let's get back to the topic that we told you about on friday the rise in islamophobia rhetoric in the u.s. since nine eleven and where it might stem from churning out eleven may have changed the way in which americans view the world but directly following the attack

president bush reminded the country that it wasn't all muslims that attacked the united states they were religious extremists that islam is a religion a religion of peace but more than one point five billion dollars around the world many of those living right here in the united states but somewhere in the last ten years something changed now we have politicians pundits so-called experts warning about the threat of sharia law creeping into our culture and our courts spreading lies about the president's religion and perpetuating the notion that there is a religious war going on between christianity and islam so where is all this coming from where after a six month investigation center for american progress has now released eight hundred thirty page report following the money trail of seven organizations who fueled more than forty million dollars and what they call the islamophobia network and the. foundations are the daughters capital of richard mellon scaife foundation linden harry bradley foundation the newton and rachelle bakker foundation and new rochelle becker charitable trust the russell barry foundation charitable fund and

william rosenwald family fund and the foundation now this report also highlights five so called experts frank gaffney daniel pipes david year shalmi robert spencer and steven emerson so how exactly does this money flow and what is the purpose behind it joining me to discuss it is here the editor in chief of think progress and vice president of the center for american progress thanks so much for being here tonight for having me and i'm very curious this was a six month long investigation this is quite an extensive report you guys put out how do you put all the pieces together and how do you make the direct line between the snow nations and these experts how exactly does the money get to them was started saying we wanted to be and with that as our goal we said how do we end it well let's look at the money trail let's start with the people who are propping up the conspirators of paid the five people that you mentioned and when we looked at that we found the seven foundations and we said ok it was the program this network if you could go to the funders and say stop funding this then what does that

accomplish while it stops these five individuals from operating and producing the propaganda that they are producing every day which then stops the cycle of people using it on fox news and what the washington times the national review radio outlets like rush limbaugh michael savage and politicians picking it up like newt gingrich michele bachmann allen west taking it and giving it mainstream audiences so we want to stop all of that from happening and of course it's having a powerful effect is changing attitudes of americans that are negatively about islam to stop that from happening we deprogrammed it went back to the funders and so that's where it started when you say forty two million dollars right over the last ten years or so since september eleventh been funneled into this are they directly paying the salaries of people like frank gaffney is it going to the organizations that they work. as a going towards you know reports that are done literature billboards that are put up so these organizations these foundations they provide a lot of the seed money for the operations of frank gaffney to exist frank gaffney

has an operation called the center for security policy has an operation called the middle east forum steve emerson has of operation called the investigative project on terrorism those operations exist because they got seed money from these foundations sometimes years ago which they continue to receive and we know that because they're filed publicly with the i.r.s. we've looked at these i.r.s. forms and found that a lot of these foundations are receiving or giving money to these same groups it's the same interconnected group of allies that are receiving the money now if you were able to figure out why i mean obviously they're the public face is the frank japanese are the people that we see on t.v. there are so called experts these days in the media but there has to be some reason behind funneling money there right there has to be some benefit that these foundations or the people behind them receive it seems like there's only two possibilities here with regard to the funders that either know what they are funding and they're happy to do so but didn't want their names to be disclosed well congratulations your names are now disclosed or they didn't actually know what they were funding you went before them and said hey listen i want to work on national

security issues in america give me some money i'm going to make it happen the funder said ok we like you here's some money and they didn't know that he was going to turn around and use that to do creeping shari'a reports and in america so what we're trying to do is say ok fine there's you're now put on notice we've named you and we've shown you how your money is being used to conspire and produce hate and now it is your turn are you for or against your contract and if you had i contacted the foundations in saying what's this really about or i don't know if they have other ties perhaps just perpetuating the military industrial complex and keeping us in a constant war on terror and also fit some of their agenda it's possible you don't know what the motivations are it's up to them to really disclose so we asked them before we publish the report give us a comment what do you think and a lot of them just said well we don't talk about our. ok that's why they don't want to comment but actually i actually received a call shortly after our publication of our report from one person who sits on the board of this organization who said i hate you i hate to you surely i have no part

of this network and i said surely you or your foundation is giving money to these individuals so now's the time if you want to come out and stand up against them we are providing you the outlet to do so so i hope that for those of them who are going to claim ignorance come on let's hear from you all right so now let's talk about these individuals and the way that you say that they've really changed america and they change the political discourse here i mean do you think they're actually changing minds in terms of public polling are they actually creating more us on a phobia or is it just self contained in this little brain gaffney fox news look no further than the park fifty one project right when they first announced they were on fox news with laura who said i have no problems with your project it sounds like a good idea and sure enough it is a good idea to build a moderate islam if people are really sincere about wanting to build moderate islam for fifty one was the way to do it so that it starts but then pamela geller decides you know what that's not going to call the victory mosque at ground zero ground zero mosque takes on a life of its own. all congressional candidates on the republican side try to use

it to be democrats over their head you've got to rallies the ground zero you've got people all over t.v. saying that this is insensitive this is all drummed up by a small number of people when you look back at the roots of it and it showed the power of what they can accomplish is not only that it's real legislation that we saw in oklahoma in this last election bringing the use of sharia law in american courts this is now going on a little let's let's lay out the audience here there's not even a single case of sharia law that they're going to report in the united states and yet we have states across the country wasting time wasting money wasting resources trying to legislate against a guarantee and they're going to use it again to try to beat obama as a way to get conservative voters out into the polls now one of the things i think that bothers me most is that who declared these people experts i something like frank gaffney get to. around and talk about the evils of islam and call the american president a muslim and say that his outreach to the muslim world also means that he's himself as radicalized i mean there are some crazy things that come out of his mouth he said that condit was infiltrating seen as the sole incarnation of the muslim

brotherhood why why why is he allowed this type of person with media plays a really big role in calling him an expert he worked in the reagan administration he dealt with arms control issues he was deemed an expert on the cold war which is fine i don't know enough about the question but then he morphed into becoming some pseudo muslim expert who knew about the creeping shari'a in the media treated him as an expert because they thought he was always an expert i think that they have to continue to question themselves if they're giving a platform to people like steve emerson who had nine hundred ninety seven said that oklahoma city was the result of a muslim jihadi attack and was later found to be an idiot about that particular issue if those people are allowed to say those kinds of things and continue to remain on the media the media's got a problem you've got to challenge yourself and say i actually do more harm than good by giving these people an opportunity to spout their nonsense and i wonder this is the point i made on friday when i was covering this is when my parents died friday and i wonder if you agree with me that unfortunately in our political

culture today you need money for everything you do you believe that there is a real grassroots grassroots movement that they even exist in america anymore and you always need some type of interested party that's going to help organize it for anything you can almost get five to ten percent of america right if you believe you have those have taken over the white house you get five percent now if you had a lot of money you could organize that five percent get them to rallies get some media cameras there and blow it up to make it sound like that five percent was actually fifty percent and i think there was a little bit of going on with the tea parties there's a lot of that going on with a look at general attitudes the american public they don't want to hate but they've been led to fear and the fear has been produced by the money it's been these coordinated rallies these pieces of legit. lation a lot of propaganda disseminated through the right networks and it creates a perception that the effect is greater than it is so is that enough for people like you people like myself to call them out right after you guys do these types

investigations or do you then need to counter it with the same kind of. money you know the same kind of a network i guess from the opposite side that comes out and you just holler i don't have the money for those you have to. take it and use the proper ems but what i would say is that what the right wing lacks in support they make up for it with zeal i mean they are committed but this person group has been out there and there's nothing that's going to stop them i don't think we have the zeal on our side to stop the nine eleven anniversary approaches and as we. hopefully remember that day for what it was which was a tragedy i think there's going to be some political manipulation by these as to once again try to scare people i would hope that this is a clarion call a wake up call for everybody to say we need to organize and use our powerful numbers to push back against the start. of it definitely needs to be some zeal and with. there definitely needs to be some more fact checking and responsibility if

you ask me when it comes to the media because unfortunately this is not an episode that we've never seen before in american history when it comes to one group being marginalized or vilified and you know the hope is that we can stop it before it goes too far as thanks so much for joining us and i thank you for your support. and still ahead tonight you said it i read it and i understand it part of the debate over funding abortion and reproductive health services worldwide. misspeaking author about the if you. do the work to bring justice or accountability. you know what my government would want to know what i. could do was the bottom line as the care was. of american exceptionalism.