welcome to the lower show we'll get real headlines with none of the marcy parking lot of washington d.c. now it's not i will continue to look at the situation in libya as the violence goes on and reports of extrajudicial killings on both sides raise questions about the rebels of the international community has accepted and we're going to speak to fastrack hear from the center for american progress on their detail the new report about the money ewell's islamophobia here in the u.s. and congress is once again moving to create a global gag order on u.s. aid to abortion and reproductive health services we're going to look at the past history of population control to see where fears stem from and ask how we can move

on you know all of that and more fear not including a dose of happy hour but first take a look at what the mainstream media has decided to me. all right so hurricane irene swept through the east coast of the u.s. this weekend and while here in the thieves thankfully didn't really lead to much damage other areas or is lucky so over the weekend we saw a lot of mainstream media coverage of this some very useful warning people about what areas of the hardest hit where the shelters are what to do what precautions to take and we of course also saw an insane amount of t.v. reporters braving the weather during those live shots all the nearly blow away that everyone loves so much but today it's already on the damage control and of course the money. forty seven people have been killed fathers seven million dollars power they didn't have the height of the storm this needed seven billion dollars in damage but it is not over yet now the total tab according to one insurance expert

likely to be ten billion dollars a cost of the damage that storm claiming at least twenty four lives and it left millions of people without power at all and caused billions of dollars in damage so counting at this time. are so some estimates say seven billion dollars some say ten billion dollars some say even more let's face it natural disasters the cleanup the reconstruction that entails they cost a lot of money but there could be a better example of what government funds are for when you need a federal system that can handle such a massive response and all this of course puts anti government spending republicans and a precarious position they're not going to say no don't fund the rescue and relief and reconstruction efforts so they have to swallow a little bit of pride admit that this is going to be an area where federal money needs to be spent and of course with the threat take eric cantor for example. but in instances like this yes there's a full roll yes we're going to from the money we're just going to need to make sure

that there are savings elsewhere to continue to do so. oh you need to make sure that there are savings elsewhere to continue to do so how come i get the feeling that those savings are going to come from other much needed programs per se or no education health care unemployment benefits oh that's right because we have a military industrial complex that controls washington and that always wins and i always win because we have an important media that refuses to call out our lawmakers on this problem so i'm a volunteer to point to some areas in the bloated security defense budget where savings could be found so that americans can recover from hurricane irene from the storms in joplin or even from hurricane katrina it's been six years today since she hit or still a lot of work to be done in new orleans now example number one according to the center. public integrity as i watch news the amount in no bid contracts of the pentagon handed out last year has reached a whopping one hundred and forty billion dollars that's almost forty percent of all pentagon contract spending and that is away up from the fifty billion that was

given out in two thousand and one and he'll have no bid contract means that means that there is no competition for it just belongs to one contractor and just like that they get to name a price that received efficient to you it's so ironic considering the obvious free market believing politicians don't seem to have a problem with this that you don't let competition and industry dictate the terms just unspoiled contractor and that's a lot of money and that's hurricane irene times twenty well let's move on how about this it turns out that since two thousand and one the pentagon has spent more than seven hundred twenty million dollars in late fees for shipping containers that they didn't return on time late fees that is what i would definitely call we still spending they can also go to the seventy five billion dollars a year that's being spent on homeland security by federal and state governments surely you can argue that some of that has definitely been useful has been necessary but then does disney really need its own nine time barry catt armored vehicle because the state of nebraska really votes with sonar full face mask to

look for al qaeda sleeper cells putting explosives on a boat in nebraska i don't know but it looks like it definitely needs to be looked into which that element at least the l.a. times did today but that is just the tip of the iceberg we now have an entire homeland security industry that's expected to grow to a market worth thirty one billion dollars by two thousand and fourteen so those are a few examples and you know that we provide you with more projects that run over budget the don't work there unnecessary all the time on this show but when undoubtably and we more than just eric cantor going on the mainstream networks talking about the need to pare hurricane irene spending with more cuts well you're not going to hear any questions about this coming from wasteful defense though just like the overwhelming amount of information out countless there that. reports on projects this pacifically do not work and our ways and means through media will just let them go on about social programs and how sorry. they're going to do all of that without countering it with all the examples that i just noted here because

that's what they choose to miss. the war in libya continues to be bloody and brutal rebel forces are still on the hunt for moammar gadhafi and his family and the evidence is mounting on both sides of mass murders extrajudicial killings taking place by gadhafi loyalists and the rebels so once again we have to start asking if this might be a dent in the international community's growing acceptance of the transitional national council will they consider the rebels actions as crimes against humanity or just those of the loyalists and if this war is going to lessen for other leaders in the arab world as a lot of stepping down how are quite the opposite ramping up their efforts to gain more dangerous weapons joining me to discuss this is jack rice former cia officer and criminal defense attorney jack i want to thank you so much for joining us tonight and for starters let's start with some of this news here of mass murders

that may have gone on the evidence keeps piling on by gadhafi loyalists at the same time you have reports of action usually killings by the rebel forces how does that complicate what the international community is doing here in terms of choosing sides. well it's a great question you know why because what the west what you do with your kids really well is they want to call these guys if it's right the rebels are the good guys loyalists are the bad guys if you have a nice clean bright it's very simple to show you could be everybody just money. or just patience support in any sense of the word when all this job becomes muddy it becomes unclear good guys are in a lot of people start to ask that very question are we. supporting somebody who's white gadhafi can be used maybe. maybe even worse than gadhafi but do you think that we're hearing a nuff of those questions because you know for example you already have the t.n.c.

saying that they can't wait to take their sea at the u.n. you already have the i.m.f. making statements that they are prepared to now accept the rebels as well into the i.m.f. you have organizations international organizations that seem very quick and very willing to have a seat at the table. without question but it's already happening there are multiple countries that are already accepted you can see as the leadership officially so you want to use google on you look a lot of things are great and are expected to drop another one point two billion dollars essentially in beer he earns and that's coming up with a better accuse the italians of just stuck up on this issue the americans are sort of getting closer and closer to the line but you know there are a lot of people really questioning as that leadership moves from bengazi into tripoli itself exactly who they are and this is a question frankly he should have been asking very long ago frequently what we have seen is those who are against gadhafi yes some of those a democracy none of which you know what there was another group up there who was

very much against gadhafi in that was that was al-qaeda so there were parts of iraq i did to the south that were fighting against him but in some ways and some of the reports have said have wound up closer with the gravels so we know there's a lot of people started legitimately so if you're one of those it was very smart people to ask that very question who are these people and why are we supporting such he gets well you know i think one of the things that we did see was you could say i originally when president obama decided to unilaterally get us involved in this war you saw some people on television screens especially those that were opposed to obama's policies questioning who the rebels are questioning whether there might be some extremist elements within there but then do you feel like the media's just kind of give it up guy you know there was a hurricane going on on the east coast and we also had an earthquake last week but compared to the previous weekend when rebels that already said that they've taken tripoli which it now turns out has become much more of a drawn out and more complicated fight every paper kind of forgot about it ok absolutely have dropped the ball so clearly i think part of the problem right now

is that americans are very very busy looking at a lot of issues domestically and that's where they feel they need to focus but sadly the american government continues to work and speak in their name and so we're going to make decisions like these. this is so if you get in touch you any. children everybody across the country it is in the queue to be russian but we're not really hearing much about it i think part of the problem if you are here to make this here is sort of what i see in europe versus what i see in the states is the states have this very strange sort of republican versus democratic view that we're in so if you are a republican you argue the republican talking points if you're a democrat you are you democratic talking in great leaders or somebody in the middle so if you're wrong you're wrong. in your typically you have both parties and so regularly if something is wrong there will be a lot of people not just the opposing party saying it's wrong not because it's politically wrong because it's actually wrong and we're not releasing their votes

here because when you see president obama but we get over it democrats sort of their hands over sort of new look at it so we decided we were coming up and we're actually a lot of the things are happening and so we just say that it's good enough all that's not good enough. but i definitely think that there is you know an inability for people to rise against her or rise above really in trying to look at the bigger picture here and you know one of the things that i've been going on and not about here on this show is the fact that no matter what ends up happening in libya doesn't change the fact that the president went into this illegally that he didn't ask congress and i think that sets a dangerous precedent here at home for what our politicians might do in the future but let's put the tables a little bit to right let's think about the past in terms of moammar gadhafi and how he once was the pariah that then our politicians including john mccain and lindsey graham and joe lieberman who were just there in two thousand and nine decided to be friend and wanted to see you know give weapons to as long as he gave up his weapons of mass destruction well that obviously didn't last very long how

quickly they turned on him and what kind of message do you think of that sends few other people out there to operate in a few of bashar al assad would they want to now step down with a every want to make a deal with the united states or trust them if they found. he's not likely course not i mean if you're assad i books that let's talk syria right now but much more that iraq it's a bit more complicated but if we look we were serious right now what they're dealing with you know what he's thinking about he's thinking about are he's thinking about gadhafi we're over some of the americans we're talking about just how this man was as an ally not thinking about egypt and then of course what we saw just recently with gadhafi you know all of a sudden these men were the devil hard it just doesn't happen overnight and yet obviously we could say one thing it and then do something completely different so regardless of what the appear and say no regard to what's going on in syria it almost doesn't matter because he knows and frankly the rest of the middle east

knows that we say a lot of things that we absolutely do not mean and you and i have talked a lot about it and i want to sleep rarely has it been more obvious more appropriate than what we have seen in the middle east and i'm specifically talking about what the americans have done in places like egypt indeed libya and. and in iraq and the list goes on and all and all yeah i think it's going to continue to raise a lot of questions in the future jack thanks so much for joining us tonight. thank you very much. as thought accounts night if i'm a phobia network any less comprised of a small part of a lot of night this coming up and therefore shed some light on that issue i will dive in from the from the. internal where the military mechanisms do not work to bring justice or accountability. but i have every right to ignore my government's doing it one

annoyed i pay taxes. but i would characterize obama as a charismatic version of american exceptionalism. you know sometimes you see a story at the scene so for sleep you think you understand it and then he lived something else here's some other part of it and realized everything you thought you don't know i'm sorry welcome to the big picture. says. let's not forget that we are the party.

i think rather be the one on the well. we never got the live shows they're keeping safe get ready for the freedom. for. for. the.

it's opic that's been a highly scrutinized legality of the bush administration's that warrantless surveillance program and one researcher at times it or find out how john hume felt about all this when he wrote an opinion for the office of legal counsel back in two . however this researchers freedom of information act request has been denied by the current department of justice because they say it's classified so why is a big deal well let me give you a brief back story here for we all knew about the patriot act there was the foreign intelligence surveillance act or pfizer this legislation was originally drawn up back in one thousand nine hundred eighty eight and it provided the exclusive means by which other tronic surveillance and interception of domestic wire oral and electric communications may be conducted however it's also required a special federal court approval before it conducting acts of surveillance but of course the bush administration well they found that to be a hassle for their spying efforts so that's when you offered up his official legal opinion in the memo now knowledge of this memo is nothing new here is to go members

of congress also wanted to know what was included in the classified information so after pleading with the office of legal counsel one ally only one lied was declassified and shared with the public and it read unless congress made a clear statement in the foreign intelligence surveillance act that it sought you restrict presidential authority to conduct warrantless searches in the national security area which it has not and the statute must be construed to avoid that you're reading so in other words you said the bush era government can interpret the law to their liking because congress didn't specifically rule out the way the governments want to wants to enact that law and as you can imagine when this one line of the memo surfaced members of congress were pretty outraged senator sheldon whitehouse gave a statement saying i cannot reconcile the plain language of pfizer that it is the exclusive procedure of electronic surveillance of americans with the o.l. see it playing and saying congress didn't say that once again behind the veil of secrecy oh well see appears to have cooked up extravagant or misguided legal

theories which would never survive the light of day so now you understand why this information is so highly sought after perhaps it makes little sense there overly sensitive current administration wants to keep the use of can you know under wraps he's made no. no secret about how he feels about the fourth amendment and he thinks that this piece of the constitution doesn't really apply when the u.s. is conducting domestic intelligence operations and we all are aware will well aware of us resume remember he is the guy the author of the cia's famous torture memos i mean enhanced interrogation techniques but so long as the obama administration ok with keeping all this information secret to save face we don't know but for now we can just add that to the list of bush era practices of the obama administration is hell bent on protecting from public scrutiny. so now let's get back to a topic that we told you about on friday the rise in islamophobia rhetoric in the u.s. since nine eleven but where it might stem from churned out eleven may have changed the way in which americans view the world but directly following the attack even

president bush reminded the country that it wasn't all muslims that attacked the united states they were religious extremists that islam is a religion religion of peace with more than one point five billion followers around the world many of those living right here in the united states but somewhere in the last ten years something changed now we have politicians pundits so-called experts warning about the threat of sharia law creeping into our culture and our courts spreading lies about the president's religion and perpetuating the notion that there is a religious war going on between christianity and islam so where is all this coming from or after a six month investigation center for american progress is now released eight hundred thirty page report following the money trail of seven organizations who fueled more than forty million dollars and what they call the islamophobia network and those foundations are the donors capital fund the richard mellon scaife foundation for lyndon harry bradley foundation the newton and rachelle bakker foundation and michelle becker charitable trust the russell very foundation the anchorage charitable fund and william rosenwald family fund and the foundation now

this report also highlights five so called experts frank gaffney daniel pipes david your shalmi robert spencer and steven anderson so how exactly does this money flow and. what is the purpose behind it joining me to discuss it is accurate editor in chief of think progress and vice president of the center for american progress i think so much for being right for having me and i'm very curious this was a six month long investigation this is quite an extensive report you guys put out how do you put all the pieces together and how do you make the direct line between these foundations and these experts how exactly does the money get to that because i was saying we wanted to end this on a phobia and with that as our goal we said how do we end it well let's look at the money trail let's start with the people who are propping up the conspirators or paid the five people that you mentioned that when we looked at that we found these seven foundations and we said ok it was the program this network if you could go to the funders and say stop funding this hate then what does that accomplish while it

stops these five individuals from operating and producing the propaganda that they are producing every day which then stops the cycle of people using it on fox news and. the washington times the national review hate radio outlets like rush limbaugh and michael savage and the politicians picking it up like newt gingrich michele bachmann allen west taking it and giving it mainstream audiences so we want to stop all of that from happening and of course it's having a powerful effect is changing attitudes of americans that are negatively about islam to stop that from happening we deprogrammed it went back to the funders and said that's where it started when you say forty two million dollars right over the last ten years or so since september eleventh been funneled into this are they directly paying the salaries of people like frank gaffney is it going to the organizations that they were or is it going towards you know reports that are done literature billboards that are put up so these organizations these foundations they provide a lot of the seed money for the operations of frank gaffney frank frank gaffney has an operation called the center for security policy has an operation called the

middle east forum steve emerson as of operation called the investigative project on terrorism those operations exist because they got seed money from these foundations sometimes years ago which they continue to receive and we know that because they're filed publicly. with the i.r.s. we looked at these i.r.s. forms and found that a lot of these foundations are receiving or giving money to these same groups it's the same interconnected group of allies that are receiving the money now did you were you able to figure out why and i mean obviously they're in the public space is the current japanese are the people that we see on t.v. that are so-called experts these days in the media but there has to be some reason behind finally money there right there has to be some benefit at these foundations of people and then it seems like there's only two possibilities here with regard to the funders they either know what they are funding and they're happy to do so but didn't want their names to be disclosed well congratulations your names are now disclosed or they didn't actually know what they were funding but frank gaffney went before them and said hey listen i want to work on national security issues in

america give me somebody i'm going to make it happen the funder said ok we like you here's some money and they didn't know that he was going to turn around and use that to do creep in shari'a reports in. america so what we're trying to do is say ok fine there's you're now put on notice we've named you and we've shown you how your money is being used so you conspire and produce hate and now it is your turn are you for or against and you're right contacting the foundations and saying what's this really about or i don't know they have other times perhaps does perpetuating the military industrial complex and keeping us in a constant war on terror also some of their agenda it's possible you don't know what the motivations are it's up to them to really disclose so we asked them before we publish the report give us a comment what do you think and a lot of them just said well we don't talk about our funding ok that's fine they don't want to comment but actually i actually received a call shortly after our publication of our report from one person who sits on a board of this organization who said i hate you i hate to surely i am not part of

this network and i said surely you are your nation is giving money to these individuals so now's the time if you want to come out and stand up against them we are providing you the outlet to do so so i hope that for those of them who are going to claim ignorance come on let's hear from you all right so now. talk about these individuals and the way that you say that they've really changed america to change the political discourse here i mean do you think they're actually changing minds in terms of public polling are they actually creating more islamophobia or is it just self contained in this little gaffney fox news about look no further than the park fifty one project right when they first announced they were on fox news with laura ingram who said i have no problems with your project it sounds like a good idea and sure enough it is a good idea to build a moderate islam if people are really sincere about wanting to build moderate islam part fifty one was the way to do it so that stars him or geller decides you know what. i'm going to call the ground zero ground zero mosque takes on a life of its own. congressional candidates on the republican side trying to use it

to beat democrats over the head you've got rallies or grounds here you've got people all over t.v. saying that this is insensitive this is all drummed up by a small number of people when you look back at the roots of it and it showed the power of what they can accomplish is not only that it's religious nation that we saw in oklahoma in this last election the use of sharia law in american courts this is now legal in the nation as a let's let's the audience here there's not even a single case of sharia law the third in reported in the united states and yet we have states across the country wasting time we think money wasting resources trying to legislate against a guarantee and they're going to use it again to try to beat obama as a way to get conservative voters out into the polls now one of the things i think that bothers me most is that who declared these people experts i something like rain down for you to go around and talk about the evils of his law and call the american president a muslim and say that his outreach to the muslim world also means that he's himself is radicalized i mean there are really some crazy things that come out of his mouth he said that condit was infiltrating c pac as the sole incarnation of the muslim

brotherhood why why why is he allowed this type of this is i mean we're media plays a really big role in calling him an expert he worked in the reagan administration he dealt with arms control issues he was deemed an expert on the cold war which is . i don't know enough about the question but then he morphed into becoming some pseudo expert who knew about the creeping shari'a and the media treated him as an expert because they thought he was always an expert i think they have to continue to question themselves if they are giving a platform to people like steve emerson and one thousand nine hundred seventy that oklahoma city was the result of a muslim jihadi attack and was later found to be an idiot about that particular issue if those people are allowed to say those kinds of things and continue to remain on the review the media's got a problem you've got to challenge yourself and say i actually do more harm than good by giving these people an opportunity to spout their nonsense and i wonder this is the point that i made on friday when i was covering this is what my parents had friday and i wonder if you agree with me that unfortunately in our political

culture today you need money for everything they do you believe that there is a real grassroots grassroots movement that they even exist in america anymore and you always need some type of reach interested party that's going to help organize it for anything you can almost get ten percent of america right if you believe you have taken over the white house probably five percent now if you had a lot of money you could organize that five percent get them to rallies get some media cameras there and blow it up to make it sound like that five percent was actually fifty percent and i think there was a little bit of going on with the tea parties there's a lot of that going on with a look at general attitudes american public they don't want to hate but they've been led to fear and the fear has been produced by the money it's been these coordinated rallies these pieces of legislation a lot of propaganda december through the right now it works and it creates a perception that the effect is greater than it is aren't so is that enough for people like you people like myself to call them out for you guys to do these types investigations or do you then need to counter it with the same kind of. money and

you know the same kind of a network i guess from the opposite side that comes out and teaches tolerance i don't have the money for those who do have the i'm happy to help take it and use the proper ends but what i would say is. what the right wing lacks in support they make up for with zeal i mean they are committed to this five person group has been at this for a decade and there's nothing that's going to stop them i don't think we have the zeal on our side quite yet to stop it when the nine eleven anniversary approaches and as we. remember that day for what it was which was a tragedy i think there's going to be some political manipulation. to once again try to scare people i would hope that this is a clarion call a wake up call to everybody to say we need to organize and use our powerful numbers to push back against this stop. oh definitely needs to be some zeal and when. there are some to be some more fact checking and responsibility if you ask me when it comes to the media because unfortunately this is not an episode that we've never

seen before in american history when it comes to one group being marginalized or vilified and you know the hope is that you can stop it before it goes too far thanks so much for joining us and i thank you for your support. and still ahead tonight that i read it and i understand part of the debate over funding abortion and reproductive health services worldwide we first have to understand that the speaking author. of the. doodle we're going to bring in just a short time ago was. right you know what my government would want to know what i. would characterize obama as a charismatic sort. of american exceptionalism.