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the whole world seven years ago chechen terrorists kept more than one thousand people hostage and a siege that lasted for three days and left over three hundred people dead most of them children. next is spotlight and i'm going off talks to the living legend of the intel corporation quite barrett who is now co-chairing the school foundation council russia's ambitious innovation project. hello again or welcome to spotlight the interview show. i'm going out with and today my guest in the studio is craig that. this cult of innovation center created and promoted by president that video has gathered the best of the best

management class here the living legend of intel corporation craig barrett joined the project together with other scientists and businessmen he's looking into how to make the end of asian center an international success today the cochairman of the skulk about foundation council craig barrett is my guest on spotify. spoke about innovation centers the favorite child of the russian president dmitri medvedev has been promoting the modernization of the country's economic and scientific future and grew to create an analogue of the silicon valley although the project is still largely on paper investment programs and research grants are being implemented already this year euclid technologies telecommunications energy efficiency and by medical technologist are in the spotlight and skulk about and many company managers believe the results of today's investment in some areas will soon be evident.

oh mr perry thank you very much for being with us my pleasure to be with you first of all there are rumors that mr paul betts is from the russian division of kisko could replace viktor vaccine against the head of the foundation is there is there any ground for these rumors can you comment so i have no idea what you're talking about that idea out ok well we'll have some more rumors later but now i have a clear. about the where growth why did you agree and the first place to work from skolkovo you say you have always been interested in international competitiveness does you control the united states needs a big and powerful high tech competitor as russia could become i don't think it's a zero sum game international competitiveness means countries become competitive they become competitive they have consumers who consume more it means opportunity

for everyone to sell more product russia has a great history of education scientific research not such a great history innovation and commercialisation of the research and i'm just very interested in what it takes to turn russia into and innovative country creating consumer goods commercializing their research and that's a problem that many countries face and i think there's a great experiment going on here in russia. on the twenty sixth of april from the mystic someone there the. president medvedev he held a meeting with people to sum up the first achievements of the project well in your opinion what are the main achievements can you name them. over over the first eleven months existence of i think there are a number of achievements that the mechanics of the operation of skolkovo are pretty well worked out in terms of what it's trying to do how it's going to attempt to do

. the the operating structure the technical advisory board we're already making grants to small companies and startups. skolkovo very much acting in a virtual fashion right now later on it will become more physical as the structures get built the buildings are built the people occupy the buildings but the most important thing for skolkovo overall is to get up and operational and that's happening in a very virtual mode right now you mentioned this virtual skolkovo people speak a lot about this virtual skulk about which really doesn't exist it is yet underground it is but but but the virtual skolkovo is working it is making money it is making lots of the art is that we say what's your comment do you like this virtual school i do you think maybe it should remain virtual well you said it's making money i think it's spending do you really know not making money but somebody

is going to survive until you have any ideas or so the board for the school foundation said very early on that the virtual ass back of school couple was going to be as important as the particular aspect you really have to include all of russia it's not just a piece of real estate near moscow it has to reach out to universities and occupy doors all across this is what we call virtual this is really. reaching out. across the country without a physical it's a. location you can reach out to people and that's what's happening today and that's what will happen for the first year or so of operation it'll be virtual the skolkovo innovation house which is being developed on the outskirts of masco just mentioned by my guest has been growing quite a bit of an spotlights you know the deal either has more of that. a little over a year after president there have announced plans to create

a so-called russian silicon valley it has already attracted quite a number of major foreign investors and not here microsoft siemens boeing and c. scott have all of signed cooperation agreements with. the russian innovation center that's hosted some top u.s. officials including the governor of california arnold schwarzenegger and he was vice president joe biden and it was the former u.s. secretary of state condoleezza rice wants to visit first when she came to russia after leaving office if russia becomes a place in which innovation. the knowledge based economy becomes the basis of russian power in the international system and it's going to be a very much better world the high tech innovation center is currently being constructed with the first building due to be completed by november i t my french architect arab company has won the competition for the hubs design the bird's eye

view of the center will resemble we're joined by to fly one of its wings will host research centers dealing with nuclear medical and energy efficiency standards while another will be devoted to information technologies and space research as for residents of good part of why shape it will receive a wide range of crew which is tax breaks and start of grants this year alone three . to me when he was doing was with grants just burst to school participants. crazy you were smiling when you were watching this special what makes you smile that this is such a such a pleasant really think to be part of it. i think it's very positive and we begin to show a lot of important people and governor schwarzenegger and steve ballmer and condi rice who would you know. there's been a good job of press relations here this is it's fun but the real issue is

not what goes into the system the issue is what comes out do you get started companies can you commercialize research activities can you grow and diversify the russian economy in the high tech area unless all of that happens in skolkovo is not a success independent of how many important people you have a problem president medvedev said recently quote skolkovo must become one of russia's best known and this understood brands that everyone must know and quote the world skulk of though is it a grand is it already recognised abroad in the united states for example. quite a few people in the us recognise coca-cola there and when i was with the president today he was commenting that only forty percent of the russians recognize the ball and he thought that that was poor brand recognition of i tried to remind him that when intel was trying to create the intel inside brand we spent billions of dollars

to create that brand skolkovo spent next to nothing on its brand and already forty percent of russians and and world leaders recognize the name already i think it's making progress even though very little has been spent on it. in town in term the way you were see was one of the companies was one of the brands which gave name to the silicon valley. in the united states because because you work is one of the one of the businesses that really creates it the whole business of the whole image of the silicon valley well do you think that there's kind of technology and maybe there are some products there can make russia competitive worldwide what knowledge which brought so well the four by various the scoreboard really pocus in honor biotech of alternative energy i the. new career in

space. i think there's opportunities in all those i mean you have excellent scientists and engineers here in russia. the commercialization of their output of their research inputs co-composer all about so whether it's new materials new software cures for cancer all of these are possibilities it's really difficult for to say this is the product that's going to come out of the story. you know no start of stone succeed if you look at silicon valley only ten percent or so of the ideas that get funded really get into the marketplace so you can expect every idea to be successful but there's there's an immense amount of research activity here in russia and you have brilliant engineers or when i was it into we had a workforce in russia of about a thousand legionnaires repaired plastic but they are really top of the class in

the world in terms of applied mathematics and computer algorithms there's a huge opportunity to take their talent and turn that into products he said commercialisation. of the wonderful talents engineering scientific talent that's we have in russia most of the russians would say that the main problem that we having today with russian engineering russian doctors russian engineers is commercialization that this is evil is it evil i know it's well most people with us and what they want in life they say i want a good education for my children. i want a growing economy i want to good paying job and i want to nice environment to live it no matter where i go in the world they say all of those four things if you want to grow an economy you want good jobs you want to good education then you have to have something in your concern and you want to commercialize you you want your

ideas and grow your custody through commercialization of high tech products high tech services is the twenty first century certainly russia has rich natural resources the oil and minerals and forest products but i think your president your prime minister and recognize have to diversify your economy to compete with the rest of the world and that's commercialization there's no other way to do it says craig barrett the cochairman of the skull cobalt foundation spotlight we'll be back shortly after we take a break so stay with us we'll continue with interview with. their colleagues childhood was already shattered by this tragedy. they still feel the fear they say just. doesn't remember every second of the slightness.

it will remain in their memories and hearts forever. and you saw. a little angel use one option. for the full story we've got. the biggest issues get a human voice face to face with the news makers on the. welcome back to spotlight i'm going out and just to remind you that my guest in the studio today is craig barrett the cochairman of the skulk about foundation counsel

and craig vladislav surkov the first chief of staff staff of the russian president says i can't skulk our projects should be targeting not only the russian market but the world market and quote what is the russia's competitive advantage and does russia have a competitive advantage to go on the world market and try to compete for the competitive advantage of any country the smart people in the smart ideas can come from the people but not yet commercialized nestle's a half of an immersion of a mercenary and that's what's called a bozo group now that is if the twenty first century is the innovation century then you have to take your smart people with your smart ideas and commercialize that into products and services and once you do that then you have to look at the big markets in the world russian market is ok but the european market is bigger the

u.s. market is bigger and the rest of the asian market is because the scope of oh when we talked about it earlier said it has to be virtual i think it has to be virtual reaching out into other markets besides the russian market that's an important part of what the foundation is trying to do so actually actually the main job and i like it if he's serious is to give russian brains and russian products at. competitive advantage on the world market it's to give them the opportunity to bring products to market both here in russia and abroad yeah well that's a good they have from this point of view it's a very high blood we have. a lot of quotes from mr. says a lot about a dad has called about we should he says convince private companies that the investment in skolkovo is profitable since the government investment is not sufficient are you succeeding in attracting private companies private investments

quite i think if you look at skolkovo you find that there are about ten big international companies that have already committed to put research facilities in and around spoken with one of these companies all these are the bowings the siemens the googles the and hills to cisco's those type of companies are committing to research in russia some of them are already doing research the company i used to work for intel already has a thousand researchers in russia but we're committing to have to interact with school cobol was well so international companies playing russian companies as well and then stayed on russian companies and combination of those three categories. really poorly in their research and having joint laboratory facilities that they can use should be a multiplier effect on the research that they do and give russia some advantage we

will know you mentioned cisco as one of the one of the big investors and i think this is the reason for those rumors about paul betts is so is who is from cisco that could replace the little guy that has the head of that is that after that's called the ok and other rumor russian businessmen hubie military leaders named california should know when generously investing into start ups is he coming to skolkovo is he going to work with skolkovo start ups there's a lot of lot of talk about this but nobody know if this may happen or not we know that you showed in your introduction governor schwarzenegger when he was still governor coming to moscow with a with a large group of so can valley venture capitalists and part of the scope of our committee is really to to invite outsiders to invest in start of the activities either here or in practice we said to translate those ideas into other economies so we would be looking for venture capital from anywhere really to help commercialize

the business here the venture capital business in russia there has been some of it but it is not nearly as robust not as strong as it needs to be so we'll have to have outside folks come in bring their expertise bring their and their venture funds into the russian market to help invest. forty companies as fur's i read in the papers i've already been registered as participants as part of this other school project is the process of registration continuing of course i mean is the hope is by the end of the year to have somewhere between one hundred fifty and two hundred companies registered as participants by the end of the year by has participant. and then a subset of that number will be unpacked we ceding financial grants from the pound nation to pursue their activities what should see in the rates of businessmen

cresent and the need to meet any guarantees papers on what to prove to get their enterprise funded my school can do what you have to have is a smart idea it has to be technically competent it has to be to some degree commercially viable so this is one of the reasons you have a a very senior technical advisory board people who can assess the technical merits but then you also want to look also at the commercial or business aspects as well but that combination of the two have you seen such a presentation i've reviewed is several of the it is it looks like a couple of pieces of paper or is this like a one piece i mean in fact thousands of pages are one of the things the board. continues to tell the skolkovo distributors is keep it simple. cut to be rock receiver we're interested in content we're not interested in volume ok critics say

that there is too much hot air pumped into into this column a project one will one will it produce some concrete results and there will be critics of school coble until you start to see results but i i think you have to be very careful here because if you are expecting results by the end of the year for example that's probably too rapid to get a return on investment cycle goes really investing in research invest in new ideas start a company and it's going to take many years for those to be successful you have to have patience in this business well isn't isn't this idea of investing today and getting results in. of years of teams three years five years isn't it's a piece of cake for for the russian bureaucrats. russian corruption people the people that are here is

a used to making money by by putting their hands on the government really well. that's always a possibility but presumably the skolkovo is putting in place things like peer review of proposals and monitoring the work of those proposals and those companies were trying to use international benchmarks to judge these but i do want to emphasize that when you invest in basic research or start a plump anees you don't invest in expected results within a space of six or twelve months and the united states when we invest in basic research for example we look at potential commercialization or paid back in six to ten years. if you have a venture capitalist is it who's investing in companies they're usually investing in or for a period of four or five or six years before they expect

a positive return well i because i guess this is the question that you were asking when you started what was called that many of your colleagues from from from the west are asking when they're coming to skulk around that that well one of the big money all the big money projects in russia so far have have created for favorable conditions for corruption for which russia is notorious as we'll know so install co guaranteed against it and it should be because this is innovation it is corruption something you know. most of the are very obviously go into small company stores and . it's critical to have intellectual property theft to allow those small companies to have protection for their ideas to have in the buyable place in the market so these are a couple the critical things you have to have there's also there's always talk about corruption not just here of russia you think there's corruption and many many other countries but but it's critical for people to be able to come and invest

their money have minority shareholder rights or pressure capitalists to come in and be minority owners to have protection for their position protection for the intellectual property he's a good basic requirements for viable commercialization small companies with ideas to grow and russia is going to have to have that you said that russia should brains and russian scientists are wonderful but in order to commercialize this what you are trying to do your part of it you want to be in kind of trying to make this true is a difficult to find specialists inside russia people who can work on commercializing the brains of the technologies how does such people understand world i think such people everywhere are going to understand them. arca place is the beauty of a start it is to take somebody who has a business commercial background and somebody who has an idea a scientist or an engineer and put them together and this is what you see that

happens wonderfully in places like mit or stanford in the united states where the universities where the smart people and smart ideas are or work very closely with industry and with venture capital people to commercialize those i hasten and that's the chemistry we're trying to get isco couple carbonation a human graduates one of my colleagues russian journalist talked to graduates are far. lower cavaney moscow than russia nobody could say what's what's written in article one of the russian constitution not a single person and i don't know either but i'm sure you know about american this is something you have to recognise yourself what do you think now the quality of the graduates. if i say. the russian graduates in the technical field i think or generally very good and we have experience entails that experience

for that other international companies that experience without for prepackage there's a great quality here and the weakness has been the. interface into the commercial sector and the ability to commercialize those ideas and do something with them and again that's what skolkovo is all about good luck with it and i wish you i wish you had me great job to do the same that you made with intel. we're going to give it a hundred ten percent thanks thanks a lot and just to remind you that my guest today was craig barrett the cochairman pops call from the foundation that's it for now from all of us here if you want to have your say on sponsor or have someone in mind here think a chance for you next time to drop me a line at al we're not at quality t.v. dogs are you in rescue the show interactive will be back with more of this to comment on what's going on in and outside of russia and so then stay on tarty and take care thanks.

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