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in science and technology from around the world. we've got the future covered. in the early one nine hundred sixty s. the united states government began sending combat troops to south vietnam. and therefore it was make them go down or graze or. ask yourself what's going to happen all the other little americans stated goal was to spread democracy and defend freedom thirty years later the legacy of that ten year war which left fifty thousand americans and over three million vietnamese dad still remains unsettled and in the decades of debate that followed the end of the war some stories and yet to carry. the day your soldiers sailors airmen marines and coast guard are better educated.
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are better informed. than traditional american ingenuity and it's. far better i suppose but at higher up and understand what the war is all about. philip. zelikow. you misunderstand my feeling. i thought it was good. when i feud with the news here are we near colonel in basic training and this crap and reports going to school or a school or like i want some. to really get over it i try to spend my whole life having people live a better life can basically feel better since winners are still around. they tried to trick me into a kill they tried to trick me into somebody who could take
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a life if there's one thing in my life i feel like they're ever called. to say i didn't pick up the credit card. straight from my hand. kind of my will be in print so you get the whole problem for all of. gotos almost true which draws a pacific. diversion from what you do on a troop ships old set up on a douglas nightmare raps a lot of time to get to where we are what we're going to what was right or off we go back and forth back and forth and we always are looking cool and all those old we're doing the right thing because as the world all. during the vietnam war any two war movement emerged that altered the course of history this movement didn't take place on college campuses but in parents and on ships that flourished in army stockades navy brigs and the dingy town surrounded military bases. and penetrated
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elite military colleges like west point and it spread throughout the battlefields of vietnam. it was a movement no one expected least of all the seven hundred twenty prison and thousands into exile and by nine hundred seventy one it had in the words of one colonel infest the entire farm services. here today few people know about the g.i. movement against the war in vietnam. and i was really proud of what i thought i was doing there earliest days of the war planted the seeds for the movement to come even among the first american troops in vietnam the elite green berets a problem i had was realizing what i was doing was not good i was doing it right but i wasn't doing the right. i was asked to train green beret people special forces men why were they training these guys to endure mythology while they were training them to do german taji in vietnam because they knew that
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if they were able to offer a few simple remedies and help cure a few children of some simple bacterial infections that that would shape themselves to the vietnamese community and you know you remember the phrase the winning the hearts and minds of the people so this was this was how you were going to win the hearts and minds of the people and while they were offering the bandaids of helping to cure a few cases of him to tie go they were bombing the hell out of the villages. i was out on patrol. near hipwell and. we took a couple of prisoners and whether they were combatants or not you know. their patrol was led by americans but every vietnamese aravind there and they were turned over to our. art and use the old fashioned methods who interrogation and force torture that was pretty common practice. i tell you as bad as that is that is that
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treatment was the cynicism that attached to it was a part that was really sick. and death of everything i've been taught to be thing i've learned everything i grew up with this is just not the way you treat human beings. it's all done for the good of the cause like yes. i got out of the military in nineteen sixty six i got out because the things i saw the things i was doing and this reasons that we were given for doing it was a personal protest it was just me getting out of the service and there was no movement to join and i found the war in vietnam more and more repulsive and i felt that i just couldn't be a part of eventually i said look i'm not training you guys anymore i don't agree with what you want i think it's immoral i think it medically and ethical and i just stopped a lot of the comic. it took
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a few weeks for the army to catch up with that and when they did they invited me into their commanding officer office and said look what do you do want here and i told them exactly what i was doing i said i'm not training and they said well you know you should know the consequences of that myself and perfectly aware of the consequences that i'm not training at that point it was obvious that it was going to be court martialled a few days later i got to court martial nokes. howard levy spent three years in prison. along with him three g.i.'s at fort hood who refused orders to vietnam and received five years hard labor and a dishonorable discharge army lieutenant henry how who carried a sign at a demonstration reading and johnson's fascist aggression in vietnam was sentenced to two years and two marines william harvey and george daniel received six to ten year sentences for organizing a meeting about whether black people should fight in vietnam. and on march third
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one nine hundred sixty six former green beret donald duncan was the featured speaker at the antiwar meeting at the town hall in manhattan i just wanted to do what i knew about it. and let's let people then judge for themselves. i think the most startling thing to me occurred however as the court martial began what would happen was we would walk from the parking lot to the building with a quad wash was being held and it was the most remarkable thing when hundreds hundreds of g.i. s. would hang out of windows out of the barracks and give me the fisa give me that clenched fist and this was mine but to me this was a revelation and at that point it really became crystal clear to me that something had changed and that something very very important was the. only.
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thing. i would venture i really don't know how many but i know how many i met the numbers a majority of the men that i met in the service were opposed but really didn't know how to force their opinion give it much thought. yes. nine hundred sixty eight was the turning point by then america had over a half a million troops in south vietnam during the lunar new year holiday called tet the enemy of the north vietnamese a national liberation front arms launched an offensive that overran the entire country before being pushed back the tet offensive revealed that the enemy had widespread support from the vietnamese people and america was mired in a war it couldn't win and with soldiers beginning to question the war in the wake of the tet offensive thousands began going
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a wall were absent without leave many found their way to san francisco where series of events brought the emerging g.i. eighteen war movement onto the national stage. we joined together. in july much is sixty eight weeks of sanctuary in a church and change our sense ministers. we essentially called the press and said. we're not going to get we were refusing orders and in fact we were designing from the military come against. us the fact that it took them three days to decide how to deal with this tactically those great . i had nothing to lose. and i had no idea what was going to come and that's a free place to really free place you know you're you know what's going to happen you know where you're going but you know what you're doing.
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to get. here and that was my introduction to be a search for scope presidio struck a. very population for sure usually upwards was gone i think in the cold light of the sixty's and there were some of the sometimes double that in there. that were crowded. for the for. the short guards were mean it was really fun. with the nine for peace held in military prisons soldiers throughout the bay area began planning for the first and she war demonstration in the country organized by g.i.'s and veterans i was an a member of the medical committee for human rights we got together a number of times and talked about how we were going to organize active duty g.i. is to go to the peace demonstration and then i remember also hearing about the
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fifty two bombers that were dropping leaflets on vietnam urging the vietnamese to defect and i thought well if they can do it overseas then we can hire a small private plane loaded up with three bullets and drop the leaflets on the trades system. ballasts and balance things i really like that one point i know we were a little concerned about it. but nothing. evidently they landed pretty accurately where they testified to my shock. and awe my way. trying to get demonstration i decided i was going to find me for. my opinion was fairly straightforward it was westmoreland we're his uniform for the war. as an active duty person i certainly had the same rights that he did
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and i could wear my uniform protesting the united states all he. says install was court martialed by the navy for making a political statement while in uniform and following the march for a while a g.i. is turned themselves into the presidio army stockade keith mathur was being held so had been assigned kind of by the movement people to go into the stockade and find out what was going on because they had their shot this prisoner and killed him one thousand year old private michael bunch life in the army had been a little more than a series of a wall violations his last stop was here at the presidio stockade where he was fatally shot last friday while trying to escape from the work detail. but the guard shot him and killed him you know point blank and his only crime was so i want to be they're. going to war. because he was really young
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age and for no good reason not unlike a lot of his brothers. you know so. so we reacted. viscerally. with anger and disgust in our huge. you toward. the wires over the walls we ripped the squawk box off the wall and then things started calmed down because we started playing we came to a decision that best thing we could do was to have some kind of a demonstration and it was at the roll call of formation we had a signal that was we were supposed to break ranks and we did know we walk over here and sat down at a certain point. commandant came out and read this. and we just kept saying louder and going to link arms i'm saying we were scared i'll tell you we're really scared we have them right where we want to be finally listening to what i mean that's the first time i could ever remember anybody listening to us while i was in the
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military. the commanding general of the sixth army which was the jurisdiction he said that they thought that the revolution was about to start and that they really had to set an example you know come down hard and we were the guys that they decided to do that with and they did it i mean we were on trial for a life. you know i kind of came it was unable and you know within two days of being the stockade i was i was based in that sense. for saying we sure. nationwide support the city when he said. i was wounded three times while i was in the bush and then third time i was well
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under was on the one he was sixty seven and we got overrun by north vietnamese regulars a sort of like a human wave. the guy came up behind her all stuck his rifle in all and i saw the front side of an a k forty seven a muzzle. and i am i am sixteen point zero and i. told my drug what i saw a case. and a bullet hit me in a new and i blacked out came to a few minutes later and the gun was jammed in my new was shattered. after the fighting ended in the sun came up and they carried me over to this guy who would show. me and he was sitting up against a tree stump and he was dead three bullet holes of his chosen is a carry laying across his boy in a sergeant so it is good you killed your good job i seen this guy and he was about my age and. when i said think you know why is he dead not alive it was just
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a matter of pure luck and i started thinking well i wonder if he had a girlfriend of his from his mother's will find things like. the one you just went through the experience of that nature and you find out that it's all lies and they're just lying to the american people and your silence means that your party people have gone i couldn't stop i couldn't be so you know i felt i had a responsibility to my friends and to the country in general and if you had to make the last guy who i shot i don't consider here's the first shot but it was the first shot where i was you know a barrel with him and put him in the face afterwards and i both a certain amount of responsibility to him to make good his wife to visit his death not be in vain meant that i had to try in every case for all of the justness that he was fighting for good i believe he was fighting for his country so i became
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involved in the most as. with more and more soldiers turning against the war handful of peace activists open the first of what would become a network of thousands of parents who were g.i. coffee house it's located in the town that hover near military bases. the dusty texas town of killeen just outside fort hood which talent over twenty thousand troops he came home with a g.i. coffeehouse known as the army officer not. being in the army and over here right now now right. i can stay here and i can. you know many are being met in our. name only a stroke came from a shock absorber on a holiday so that's what yo yos through it was it was a place where you go there and it's old soldiers and they had a record player and all the latest rock records and underground favors and using
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out right. and to go right on and which one did we go out on the ambitions mean to the people in. the early morning. because we get right who's there. a majority of women are they doing their right to carry. their food in their their friends don't let anyone think they can back out of it and hopefully be a part in any he's making because. he will put on his cropped up with several army bases these days and still gone underground g.i. press which consists largely of anti war newspapers military authorities are clamping down hard on the papers recently there was an underground newspaper laying on the bed and it's called the last harass
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a free man they were freaking out this is authorized material and this is a person material you're not allowed to have any copies this inside the barracks goes turn us into media make that like that in the paper then with one around in the barracks everybody's reading and two or three guys a time sitting around on a bed around guys beds and stuff like that checking out the scraper what i liked about it was the fact that the officers hated the. everything had to be good they had been going to have to do something about this that was cooked tight mimeographed printed the g.i. underground press exploded. the time travel adventure ordered jordi last harass washington fort benning georgia air force for your bomb or text or just for the texas team press it's published by a group of radicals soldiers stationed at this army base and we used to distribute it clandestinely on bags from all around and leave bunches of them in barracks is
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would go through the night and leave month footlockers if you were caught distributing literature there was a court martial friends shortly after the first issue was published the g.i. who founded the press gypsy peterson was pulled over by fort hood police and a vacuum. and claimed to follow the remnants of a marijuana arrested him for possession of marijuana in an attempt to suppress his move following it turned a trial in the texas court to see peterson was sentenced to eight years in prison for bragg north carolina reach for jackson south short times although her german side was despite the military's best efforts the underground press became the life blood of the g.i. movement as the army's own recruiting slogan fun traveling adventure turned into the popular g.i. expression of the. presley soldiers around the world and inspired many outside the military you know i grew up believing that if our flag was flying over
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a battlefield that we were on the side of the angels my father fought in the second world war anyone awards and medals and. you know i grew up during the good wars here's this one. who steps out onto the world stage is a famous actress comes from one of the ruling class families in hollywood and makes a political decision to change sides she steps onto the side of the people and particularly the vietnamese people she stands with that she argues and she stays with the movement she says i'm going to stand with this i'm going to give thanks i'm going to help support it build it you know it's sort of like that you have to be a show i think it's a terrible demonstration going on outside how there's always a demonstration going on outside richard this one is completely out of control let me ask you point this time pre-allocated from all political prisoners out of vietnam and draft all government officials we have people they care about their job you do your job and i would like to not just go out there storming i want howard
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baker somebody caught a third marine you can't reach or why not. four years program or comedian bob hope toured vietnam entertaining american troops but soon the cheers turned to cheers and a new kind of entertainment emerged. howard levy himself a celebrity within the g.i. movement he met with donald sutherland and me and he said what if we put together. an antiwar show that's you know the opposite side of the coin from the from the bob hope show. they took one look at life. after the army we always said free the army or fun travel and adventure but it
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really meant the army. here was a way that i could combine my profession my acting with my desire to end the war it just seemed like a perfect fit. for this show that we bring to these bases is not trying to tell the people on the bases anything that they don't know we are coming in response to what is probably the most powerful movement going on in this country the movement of the man inside the military and women who are beginning to understand how they're being used and what the nature of american foreign policy is and we come there because they have asked us to we come there because for the last year we have read in the newspapers from vietnam from from west germany from okinawa from the philippines and from what we want entertainment we want people to speak to how we feel and the majority of us don't know why we're going over there that we don't know why we're
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being shot up i don't know why our bodies are being killed we don't know why we're killing those people. i'd be shocked. if you will be ideally. we need your mouth. washed. up you all the way should be exempt from all military. all really like there's a place where you are. i'm not being president. i'm not the. guys who come from over one country so you good people come in with different information about black palace trouble if it means you know black unity you'll feel good about you so you want to really question your community and more. but i remember one day the first saw agents talking about kooks so yeah naive i was
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that you know he was a racial ethnic i didn't really understand that you know one day he was going to the groups and i remember right where the family of us of the same thing is in many . things began this thought clicking in my head like you wouldn't. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so for lengthly you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else and you hear or see some other part of it and realize everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm sorry welcome to the big picture . wealthy british style sign. that's not right for.
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