it's heating up in chile with a lesson in civil disobedience this as hundreds of thousands of students fight for their right to free education so could americans ever take a page from this book of street smarts. and it's guitars and guns seems the f.b.i. is running over an american classic gibson guitars so after agents have raided the guitar company what's next we'll talk to give some c.e.o. gary just the rights. and they're called the friends of libya a group looking to map out the country's future so as world leaders gather in paris to discuss the pros gadhafi era other added benefits to this libyan friendship

we'll have a report from brussels home to nato. and women in colombia are taking a road less travelled withholding what their mamas gave them by going on a political sex strike so we get you to withhold sex. is thursday september first seven pm in washington d.c. i'm christine for his hour and you're watching our team i want to start with a story of an attack on something so american you can always put it in the same category as baseball and apple pie i'm talking about rock n roll and more specifically one of the most well known instruments that has helped create and keep rock n roll live now to mention jazz and country music as well for decades the gibson guitar well apparently federal agents in this country aren't. taking issue

with the one hundred year old company last week a gibson guitar factories in memphis and nashville tennessee were raided some of the workers told they could face prison time it was the second raid at the gibson factories in as many years this time agents confiscated would imported from india that was apparently in violation of indian export law only say that again the u.s. government issued warrants based on its interpretation of another country's laws now i should mention there is a law in this country it's called the lacie act it requires companies to make detail disclosures about would imports and bars the purchase of goods export it in violation of a foreign country's laws but is this part of a larger and dangerous trend there is one man who says yes radio host alex jones in austin texas oh actually we are going to actually talk to the c.e.o. and we just go it's the c.e.o. and chairman of gibson guitar. well what happened was. you know i was at home

coming into work and i got a call that federal agents had. come to the office and are in my office sealed my office shut they are pouring over the corporate headquarters and they have also gone to our manufacturing plants. checking with the manufacturing plants ph over. two dozen. federal agents went into the plant. at gunpoint removed people shut down the manufacturing operations. and started to confiscate various kinds of wood. paper and computer hard drives i know there's a lot of theories out there right now in terms of why gibson specifically targeted let me just get your theory i know you've had about

a week to digest this and kind of look into it and talk to a lot of people what is your understanding in terms of why gibson was target that was not really i don't know. but the justice department is now talking to us we have been charged with. so there it's impossible for me to determine what is the motivation for singling out and we are being singled out other companies are doing exactly the same thing with no consequences. so i obviously we are being singled out for some reason no one has told us what it is and. some people said perhaps it's political motivation maybe but i don't know political in what way. you know i don't know some political agenda that i'm not aware of. pretty interesting talk to me about

gibson itself i mean we mentioned earlier this is just a long time one hundred years i think american company even during the recession you guys were adding jobs not cutting them talk to me a little bit about the company yet we really hired five hundred eighty. new american workers over the last two years we are growing we are successful we are competing internationally successfully. more than sixty percent of our product is sold overseas so there weren't a net exporter. we have our philanthropic we have a foundation and we have been very involved in conservation and sourcing wood the wood the right way interesting now so far you are events and you know snow charges have been filed any indication when you're going to actually hear from the justice department it is so frustrating we have been under investigation for two

years. and had another issue on wood apparently for medicare asghar two years or we have started just still have not been filed we filed a lawsuit to recover the goods that were seized in two thousand and nine two years ago we have incurred huge amounts of cost we have provided to the government eighty thousand documents invoices and so forth on our sourcing and other aspects of our business they have completely imaged all our hard drives in the first three. in still here we are. oh of a certain other read will notice. we're still under investigation this could go on for a long time so the two thousand and nine raid you said you lost a bunch of money then and from what i understand you've been closed since this last

raid how much money do you think you've lost this time around well i'll take it of use it is. so far up to about three million dollars now it includes good still about a million dollars of of work it was seems that. the rest is in legal fees and disrupted production let's take this out of the gibson store and take it to a bigger picture what do you think it says you know if what everything you're telling me is true that you have followed all the laws and yet still you're being targeted by the f.b.i. by federal agents what do you think it says that this can happen in this country well i can't believe it you know i can't believe it can happen in this country but it it is it goes. you know i think it's wrong i think it's unfair and i think that we need to change the law to allow people not just suffer this

kind of intimidation. you know in the future not just gibson but any any legitimate business person. you know there are critics who say that it's because you've given to republican candidates and that you know some of your biggest competitors give to democrats do you think that that argument holds any water. you know i mean i've given to republicans in them but i've also contributed to democratic campaigns i'm not an active republican i i just can't imagine the amount of participation i have and politics would justify you know this kind of treatment so i i can i don't think that's what it is what is and i'll just wrap it up with this question for you what is your fear in terms of the larger implications of incidents like this well you know that my first fear is is my

company and my people of course you know this is showing down our business in know if if the government maintains an extreme stance that we can import indian sorest would that is the majority of the wood for guitars it is going to be virtually impossible to replace that in a short amount of time. that will in fact you just satirist are presence secondly it's the the fact that this federal process doesn't allow due process we have not had our. our issues heard and adjudicated by a court of any current we have nowhere to go to raise our hansie pardon me better

on i have to prove someone means to you know our independent third party needs to say yes you are no you're not and we haven't got that ability at this point well had we then why don't you just move give some to india you could certainly get cheaper labor would you consider doing now. well you know we have to stay in business i am hopeful there are public relations campaign and talking to you folks out here but will generate enough pressure we can get our regions. it addressed it of fear so that we put this to fear and that was had henry just quit c.e.o. and chairman of the gibson guitar corp. i want to talk now about the latest wave of anger and frustration that has turned into a protest this time it's young people in chile also students demanding free

education hundreds of thousands of people have taken to the streets demanding among other things a more fair distribution of wealth from the income of a copper price burn this is where the world's top producer of copper is made its chilly so i want to talk to somebody who's actually witnessing this firsthand freelance multimedia journalist britney peterson was in chile. hey there granny thanks for being on the show today i know they you are an american and i think you went to college here i want to get your take on what you're seeing in chile and how it differs from what you might expect to see here in the u.s. . so to me in the united states are really facing similar. higher education systems what's happening is a lot of students have to go into deep into debt to be able to pay for very expensive higher education that might not be so helpful for them because in the u.s. it's an economic question we're in

a recession there aren't that many jobs available for a huge generation and in chile well during the economic boom right now but it's also a huge generation of students in the system has yet to accommodate all of those students who are studying really high level position like you know engineers think we're gonna stocker there's just so many people studying in just not enough jobs right there so what's happening is in chile they're saying this is enough we're tired going deep into debt we don't have the money for this i spend fifteen years twenty years jane that my student debt and that's not fair i want to raise a family i want to buy a home but when the families here in chile have to decide between buying a home interesting college education that's a really hard decision to make and so until a good student are protesting they're saying enough is enough going to get right when you're twenty two twenty four years old that's not freeing but doesn't lead to innovation that lead to creativity something that as a country and you have be able to push forward when you were looking at some of

these pictures here of just the protests on the streets i mean there are a lot of people out there they seem pretty unified i know i read reports of people even dressing up like shades of our you know different leaders of different movements how successful are you know is this protest i mean is there any. sense that you have that this will lead to something concrete. yes of course yesterday there was a very important meeting that was held the commission of education in the senate. was made up of five senators and they had a vote yesterday to decide whether or not to proceed because a project that would put an end to profit in education or government subsidizing for profit educational institutions and they voted for two to one for this project that would say no ripping in and two government subsidies of private education so that was a huge step for the movement yesterday the student leaders who are you know are the face of the movement they were president they made presentation before the vote so

yes they've achieved this and then this saturday they're meeting with the president but they're meeting with the president they're presenting very transparently the twelve points that they're demanding and having the president and the cabinet members president present in the meeting the man replied paul good to me in because it's been very much lost the communication in the press but now they're finally meeting with the president himself and being able to discuss very transparently the things that they need to be able to go back to classes to be able to not lose this academic year i've got to say it's pretty impressive to see this to see this unifying. movement happen i'm just wondering i mean i know that we've seen it you know in new york we've seen protests from increasing fees certainly in the university of california schools as well but nothing to the extent like i am witnessing in these textures in chile any thoughts britney on why that is and why

it's easier or just more organized where you are versus what we've seen in america . well christine i think it's because this reality how to function for my generation yet. there's so many things that are going to think in ten years from now fifteen years now their taxes are going to be hugely increased and we're going to be responsible for the social security of our parent than and we're not going to hospital security. the reality hasn't sunk in i graduated without that and so the only reason it's really sunk in for me is because well my father keeps being into my head and also i'm here witness think what's going on with this flu but my friends are kind of work you know reid says are finally taking their time to a new job and you know even the ones who are in that they're saying you know this is worth it but we have no idea what's coming i had no idea it was coming and i think it's not that widespread in the us because. we have because families have accumulated wealth i think that it will to help in times like this printed

a lot of people that wealth is in quickly depleted but i just. i'm sorry aren't hard enough for families in the u.s. i know it's interesting because there are so many x. similarities in the economy with both countries in terms of going into extreme debt in terms of you know paying back loans you mentioned for ten to fifteen years in terms of graduating from college with no job prospects but it is nice to see what you're witnessing when you walk outside of your apartment on a daily basis that people are actually doing something about it and i want to thank you brittany for telling us you know what you're seeing and bringing bringing what's happening in chile to us here in our t.v. land multimedia journalist britney petersen thank you. moving on now to u.s. involvement of a different kind in libya and what will happen next there there is a meeting going on in paris it's called the friends of libya conference leaders

from sixty countries are there to discuss with libya's national transitional council life after khadafi now earlier i spoke to r.t. if you correspondent daniel bushell is in brussels and he talks a little bit about what's shaping up in terms of planning for the future of libya. but from from police the police on the streets the hospitals and schools working and the weapons stores all of libya have been raided in the chaos. as told me that every now has a kalashnikov of the streets and they're being traded for pennies and even more worryingly the rebel leaders themselves don't seem to know there's a composed of as well as the business that you might expect in the. arab nationalists president joe lou the new president of libya was amazed to find that's a column of al qaeda fighters who joined his offensive old tripoli a hillary clinton has just said we'll continue to help militarily the libyans as

long as they need it which suggests the problems have only just begun it's really interesting though i'm curious how nato is justifying what's happening now especially in light of the fact that you know as you say i think some crazy things are going on the streets in tripoli and originally nato said their stated goal was the protection of the civilian population but from what i understand the rebels are continuing to push through and storm areas that are still you know somewhat under the control of khadafi supporters so shouldn't nato then still be protecting those who are in danger even if they now happen to be in places the rebels are attacking him or how do they justify to us. well that's a justification at this meeting in paris they reiterate it is there is a threat to his own people it's not quite clear who gave nato the roi to be judge and jury. where the gadhafi should be hunted down and what they have the right to

hunt down and kill gadhafi certainly not the original international. giving them or giving them permission to intervene in the country now if the eastern part of libya which is traditionally more and to get a free supported involvement is very much under the belt with the tribes the hundreds of tribes across the west and self which are traditionally more prove gadhafi wanted to be in this way by nato that certainly on the question at the moment i want to go back to something you you spoke about just a moment ago about al qaeda being involved in the rebel movement how do you you know u.s. and other western leaders i justify sort of being a friend of libya when they there's a lot of confusion about exactly who is in the national transitional council and who will be the future leadership i mean is that being discussed at all. it is being discussed many will say to the lives of people under nato is getting

worse i mean the we were talking about afghanistan also iraq and libya and certainly the transition here seems to be seems to be more chaotic this seems to be little question about that before it's i mean the stability of the country has been totally blown out of the water i mean one diplomat says people used to see made to the united states as their home certainly if you speak to people on the streets now they're full of hatred and anger for the west so it raises the question have they created a hornet's nest of for themselves because if. it was no one was no one's favorite person across the world the question is has has the transition created by this by nato on board. creates an even worse enemy for the west i think that such an important point that you bring out a lot of people sort of trying to make some historical connections here i make of some comparisons with other places i know it was about ten years ago after all that many nato countries were pretty excited about

a new leader in power i'm talking about having karzai in afghanistan i'm wondering from what you're gathering there do you think as a result of things working out not quite the way people expected in afghanistan that these friends of libya will be a little more reluctant to support and be excited about future leaders in libya. well look i was to. have its yesterday she said. it's twenty years before we meet here in the west we've been here in belgium where i'm speaking to you from so under the previous regime women for example are allowed to walk freely on the streets that's just one example they had abortion rights and. benefits as we call it here in europe they got money from the government and know that libya is in chaos and the islam is the religious extremists have got a foothold and they use it as a piece from which to spread their ideas across north africa and the.

voice that we're actually limited. to the previous regime and now being read so you're absolutely right i mean the comparison with afghanistan of course iraq is is often also quoted many people will say that the royce that people enjoyed before. the previous regimes were perhaps even the ones the. very very interesting i mean no matter what when you get people from the western world used to a very different kind of government involved in getting involved you know what has for thousands of years been tribal it's just hard to imagine that they can really understand and get a grasp on how to move forward daniel bushell arctic. joining us from brussels belgium thanks so much let's talk now about an interesting way certain members of certain communities are working to get things done barbacoa this is a small village in colombia south america or for two months women there have been

on strike but they're not forming picket lines or shouting slogans in the street you know these women are hitting below the belts literally they are on a sex strike and what has come to be known as the crossed legs movement so one of these women wants paved roads one of they want him now to talk more about this tactic earlier i spoke to caroline may she writes for the daily caller and wrote an article about the crossed legs movement she gave me an inside look at what these women are going through and how far they're willing to take this fight. well since there's been so much bad weather not only are the roads not paved but they've been washed out even the dirt roads so what had taken four hours to get to medical treatment and now taking ten hours so these women who have been fighting for about twenty years to get these roads have said enough you know we can't have children in vironment where it's not only. food prices are going up because so difficult to get there but our children can't get medical help so it's a practical reason not to have you know that because they don't have children but

it's also sort of a passive strike now and i'm just practical in terms of not getting pregnant and bringing more children in but from what i understand at least the people in charge of the people making decisions are the men and then now might have a larger incentive from your understanding is this making the paved road come any closer to actually the government is that they will be paving the road but the women are still holding out the so that there will be start construction in october but the women are saying we're going to hold off until you know we're not we're not going to give you any other action until we imagined it happened now you know until that happens i think that you know they're going to meet the men yeah really really interesting. and i know you wrote specifically about an example of a twenty three year old woman who actually died having childbirth yet was she and her unborn baby died because there was no access to the ambulance just got stuck in the mud that was on the way to help i mean i'm sure that's one of so many

circumstances in this small village in colombia south america but i'm wondering i don't know how much historical research you did on this is this is a tactic that's been used before actually it's it has been used i mean there's softening it's wrote about it it was a comic play called the strada and in which the women wouldn't have sex with their husbands or boyfriends until the peloponnesian war was ended but that was a that was a play it was fiction but i mean it's been going on actually recently in kenya belgium they've had strikes such as the but not to the effect that these women have had actually colombia's before we've seen it like you know a thousand and two thousand and six they had similar strikes against violence and i know here in the u.s. it's an idea that sort of you know kind of becoming more popular i want to show you a clip of something regarding an issue that was pretty big just a few weeks ago and that is the defunding of planned parenthood take a look at this. i'm not saying that people who oppose basic for women's health care

can go themselves but as far as i'm concerned they won't have any other option john adams is your sexual partner support for john as it is not. alone but something else i mean pretty interesting it's actually part of a longer and i think it's interesting i mean. to tell these women to tell women in america you know what does your sexual partner what does your man think about planned parenthood and whether or not to defund it what do you think about this tactic well i think it probably gets results but i mean as we saw planned parenthood continued to be funded so i guess it worked in some respects but i don't know i mean the issue is it casts men as sort of forty brutes you know what i mean and i mean it might get attention in the way that you're saying about a false impression well it depends on who you are and what you think but i mean i mean i guess in some respects it depends on the man always an interesting

conversation that one with caroline a reporter from the daily caller. so what else can spawn the next cross-legged movement and is it just women who have the power or commander so as well these are questions laurie harshness of the resident dot net asked of people in new york city from around the world here's what she found out. in the strike of crossed legs colombian women with health effects to get a road paved what is she would you withhold sex for this week let's talk about that right now the economy we need. so. that will get better. that also. a lot of the closer i think. is just to still mix. in friends maybe for world peace or to end hunger or

something like that but. it was the ending for the road for road if it were ending hunger around the world you could unite yeah that would be good. nothing i don't think so. what about if it ended war. can imagine. i'm sorry the deficit. in congress. so if american women that's having sex do you think it would change things here we would solve the deficit crisis very quickly going to do it was going to do and if that's the only way to get their money motivated i can understand it or get me on the show pretty quick is there any thing that you would withhold facts or are you kidding no. there's not a problem in the world that would have me with my wife i think it's an effective tactic. it certainly works there yes good for them do you think it would work anywhere in the world yes i think men and women interact the same way everywhere do

you think it would work if men without socks. something done no no i don't think we had the same leverage i mean if it weren't sure i think it's a little crazy but i mean hey you gotta do what you gotta do is no crazier than going to war and shooting people to get things done that is very true whether or not you agree with these women tactic the bottom line is it got the job done with no violence needed. well and that is going to do it for now but for more on the stories we covered go to our team dot com slash usa also we post most of our interviews on you tube you got com slash r t america you should also follow me on twitter i'm at franzi thanks so much for watching we will be right back here in a half hour christine for.