i am. hello i'm john berman in washington d.c. and here's what's coming up tonight on the big picture g.o.p. presidential candidate jon huntsman reveals his jobs plan a week for president obama so are republicans actually offering any new ideas to create jobs is this more of the same corporate hocus pocus that got us into this mess in the first verse and trigger happy texas governor and presidential hopeful rick perry claims the government doesn't create jobs at the same time bragging about his impressive record as a job creator in texas see why the facts don't quite add up for governor good hair

. you know this so with the scheduling dustup for the president's jobs speech resolve and speaker john boehner getting what he wants president having to compete with the saints and the packers for the nation's attention next thursday may now we can actually focus on a planned create jobs president obama's jobs plan has yet to be fully released we didn't get a clear picture of how republicans would create jobs yesterday and presidential candidate jon huntsman revealed his job creation plan which will likely mirror much at least of the rest of the republican party's ideas so what does huntsman want to do here no surprise he wants to shill for transnational corporations millionaires and billionaires pursed up on seven lines to address the nation's debt by endorsing the paul ryan plan to privatizing medicare understand more billions to for profit

companies and huntsman's taking on taxes this plan would lower the top income tax rate on the wealthiest americans thirty five down the twenty three percent lower than. it was during the coolidge and hoover administrations in the twenty's but was writing the great depression as in more tax cuts for the so called job creators that aren't creating the signal job today even though they're paying less in taxes right now and they have any other point in the last fifty years he's also proposing eliminating the capital gains tax altogether you know that income taxpayer paid by people like paris hilton who make their living sitting on their butts around the pool waiting for the dividend checks to arrive and how will huntsman pay for these tried to gigantic tax cuts for the rich by taxing the middle class and cutting benefits to seniors collecting social security and some also push for more pollution by saying we should eliminate e.p.a. regulations they have more power for the banks there's a gamble in the stock market by eliminating wells from your firm and have more drilling for oil in sensitive areas because he apparently didn't notice last year's

b.p. disaster in the gulf and of course he wants more of the same free trade policies that have cost our nation millions of manufacturing jobs. so this is really the best republicans can do when it comes to job creation basically more of the same policies that ronald reagan gave us eventually crashed our economy with a little sprinkle of what calvin coolidge or hoover gave us that caused the great depression here to offer his take on it on this whole issue is ever langar president of the institute for liberty andrew welcome and it's on first of all you want to correct contradict the straight the so there's i'm going to raise a new sort of left out there is that while the corporate tax rates may be lower going lower than they have been a long time regulatory costs have never been higher the regulatory state according to obama's own s.b.a. cost the american economy nearly two trillion dollars annually two trillion dollars so with america for america's job creators or small businesses businesses which is money closer rather well that's two thirds of all to our utilities the homes

anybody who sits around and says you know i think i'm going to create a job as an all sure if a trooper was hired to do is they would make money on other another put. through a third of all jobs are created by america's small businesses those are the businesses that are faced with an eleven thousand dollars per employee per year and regulatory costs we have a good very cost breaks out how well we breaks up it's an example it's you know environmental regulations as you've talked about cost a lot of his pay so the i realize the koch brothers are very upset about the e.p.a. and there's a major i would know it's because we're going to hold funded organization but god bless it but the point is but the point is not the point is that the regulations that are usually talked about are let's do away with the e.p.a. so we can have more crap in our air and more crap in our water and thank you very much ten or twenty thousand cases in history or just close it looks isn't enough let's talk about you know if you want to talk about the clean air and clean water act and how clean is clean the fact is that there was a there it has been

a cost down the road from the great environmental apps of the seven interesting to read all me that corporations in america sitting on children have trillion dollars in cash are not spending. that money because they're afraid that they're going to spend some money with the e.p.a. they're afraid down the road we're going to spend money on. increased energy costs because we are shutting down every aspect of domestic energy in the united states they're going to have if you actually are going to leave if that's how absolute health care costs are going to go a lot of companies hire people because there's demand for the top of the i don't know i don't know how often you talk to companies out there that want to hire people think about how i thought i was going easy and i have. every day that i had brought is over to us and many people in generated more than a quarter of a billion dollars and you want to and you want to do business certainly in your i never hear about certainly quote i did about was customer shoot it down the road you were looking down the road at what your costs were going to be and how you can manage those costs down the road and if your energy your household your customers i think absolutely i have ok then you know that it's customers that make your

business and if your customers are going to have a higher you tom if your customers don't have any money to spend especially in that in those business to business transactions that are out there if they don't have any money to spend because they're there waiting for it to see how they're going to go no money to spend because their customers have no money and therefore the how about a long talking let's start with the let's start talking about business to business let's start talking there because in those business to business transactions there are going to be no business to business transaction that's right because they're all good friends are all is they're all it's all begins only consume it all it all began and consumer can only result still company is going radioing adore each of our houses because somebody's going to buy the regulatory costs are going up for those and their and their impact on a consistent very bullish regulatory you cannot ignore two trillion dollars you don't want to look and you can't the regulatory carry the fact is that we have ignored the regular from america the nineteen years. in forty one regulations were fairly minimal until the one thousand nine hundred regulations were quite substantial did we have an economic disaster in this country no we don't know yet

because it because you had come so you had to have to go as world where it's going down and we had and the fed and energy rate went from that idea for us until the one. nine hundred eighty two attacks and you had a top ten corporate tax rate corporations were paid forty seven percent in taxes. that's what had we built seventy huge and just what happened in the seventy's look what happened in the seventy's when energy cost spite and the dollar was completely undercut worldwide the fact is that there were all sorts of in other words our biggest risk is the fact that the saudis don't like us and they might screw us again all of our are there is or should we should stop sending in the art of billion dollars as if we were ignoring a two trillion dollar i don't huntsman not want to why why is the core of his issue if what you're saying is true that our biggest problem is is that is that we could like jimmy carter or actually richard nixon we could get screwed by the saudis or the middle eastern oil why is he is his jobs program saying let's move to

alternative listen i think well i think first of all because without without a carbon based energy system in america you cannot pay for those green jobs if there's one thing that we've now learned over the last five years of trying to delve into a green energy policy it's that when carbon based energy price war is adopted as doing it where the germans do know where that should these little put the chinese are still building or what is it one coal plant a week and i mean that on it's about half that our thoughts are one coal plant every takes they are. more power but they're asked to you see the economy is still fundamentally based on carbon based energy yes and so you know they are but they're building solar because they know down the road we're going to want to they're going to want to spread that risk throughout their portfolio because the carbon is getting more expensive both and in terms of direct costs and indirect costs like that and a lot of that is a lot of that is artificial i mean a lot of that is basically said we're going to pay as well for their of their of their land is looking at the possibility of famine in the in the in the lead it was a we could go do we go down the road as to why did why the chinese why the why the chinese lander from just oh no we have authority so i don't i don't understand as i

don't see anything in here from since the topic here is jon huntsman i don't see anything here that's not just you know recycled republican well it's certainly better than the what the president's proposed which is at this point three years into his administration nothing. ok i got no answer for that. happy labor day andrew thank you very much and same to you it's a definition of insanity is repeating the same thing over and over and over again expecting different results so how will it act in the same policies of deregulation and massive tax breaks for the rich that george w. bush and herbert hoover championed create jobs this time around the world economic forum u.s. infrastructure ranked sixteenth in the world if there's nothing in huntsman's plan about infrastructure spending a proven method to get americans back to work has been endorsed by both the chamber of commerce and the f l c o my republican satisfied with the crumbling infrastructure free trade free trade how will it allow in more corporations to ship us jobs and factories create jobs instead of drilling for more oil to create jobs

should we building be building solar panels and high speed rail and green technology instead so i just you know i just don't get this any i enter thanks so much jon huntsman seems may seem like a moderate ron paul may seem like an extremist but all the republican candidates basically want the same thing that's to turn our nation over to the rich and the polluters i think thanks a lot thank you. it's time for. it's time for our daily poll your chance to tell us what you think here's the day's question is it appropriate for representative joe walsh to boycott president obama's jobs speech to the joint session of congress your choices are yes he says he doesn't want to be a problem we're going to speak to the real job creators or no he's being totally disrespectful to the office the president's going to thom hartmann icon to let us know what you think the poll of polls be open until tomorrow morning.

it's time for the good the bad of the very very very porteous lee ugly good for republican senator chuck hagel what you do with your political party leaves you behind you call him out that's exactly what senator chuck hagel did in an interview with the financial times in reference to the republican behavior after the debt ceiling to be hable said he saw an outstanding lack of responsible leadership by many in the republican party i think about some of the presidents we've had on my side of the aisle he said ronald reagan george bush sr your way through them eisenhower he said they would be stunned senators right it's no longer your dad's republican party it's the party of billionaires islamophobia and i and rand and we

need more republicans like chuck hagel telling the truth about this transformation the bad the shell are you hypnotized bachmann or the poll numbers dropping bachmann is trying to lure voters to her side in florida i think she's getting some bad advice or campaigning in tampa bachmann called for oil drilling in the state's most pristine natural environment the everglades still bachmann doesn't back down on drilling for oil in the everglades let's access this wonderful treasure trove of energy that god has given to us in this country but absent that response something like. god gave us all that oil underneath the everglades but not all the animals and plants that are thriving in the everglades and just kill off those that get the well one big problem known as the geologists universe itself or to know that. there's no known evidence that there's actually a significant hydrogen carbon deposited in the everglades and other words there's no oil there but screw it let's drill anyway right michel. and the very very ugly

yuma county republican party yes how republicans in the same county congresswoman gabrielle giffords was shot here are planning to raise money by selling raffle tickets off an auction off a forty caliber glock and gun the same type of gun that was used to shoot congresswoman giffords in there and killed six others earlier this year republican party is selling one hundred twenty five tickets a ten bucks a ticket and most of the gun comes with three thirteen round magazines and just about grips and a case at least they didn't include the same exact high capacity magazine that was used in the tucson massacre thanks to this violent giveaway the pima county republican party is going to net about twelve other bugs we should all likely use to contribute to more right wing into immigration gun nuts in that state and that's very very good. coming up sound the alarm visionary michigan governor rick snyder is committing a herbal crime stealing from the poor and handed over to the rich so how would the

thousands of needy families stay afloat in the peninsula's. drives the world the fear mongering used by politicians who makes decisions to break through it's already been made who can you trust no one who is in view with the global machinery to see where we had a state controlled capitalism it's called satchels when nobody dares to ask we do our tea question more.

if you live in michigan and you've fallen on hard times you're screwed michigan republican governor rick snyder is donning his reverse robin hood ad again stealing from the poor to give to the rich the governor is expected to sign legislation that cuts the temporary assistance for needy families t.n.f. program in michigan from sixty weeks to forty eight weeks as a result of october first more than eleven thousand gas really poor people in michigan will lose a critical lifeline however the same time rick snyder wants to toss in the c.e.o. corporate donors a nice fat tax break signed into law and eighty six percent tax cut in corporations it will cost michigan one point seven billion dollars far more than the sixty

million the state is saving by cutting welfare of the poor in other words for every dollar governor snyder is taking from the poor he's giving thirty dollars to transnational corporations so how is he taking money out of the hands of people who would spend it and giving it to his billionaire buddies how is that a good way to create jobs for more of this i'm joined by david self conservative commentator an advocate for republican governors who screw their constituents david welcome. thank you very much for having me tom as always it's a pleasure and thanks to listening audience they have sent me some very warm e-mails as of late let's wait that's that's very nice why do you hate poor families in michigan. well i do and i'm going to have to take issue with the gross mischaracterization of what you said stealing from these needy people first of all the michigan system is rife with fraud longstanding fraud and the governor

is taking some steps to correct it additionally david is trying to probably know what byrd two thousand and eight there was there was a big scandal around town t.n.f. program and they upped the penalties to ten years in prison a quarter million dollar fine the bus that a bunch of stores in detroit and they've basically cleaned that program up that's nonsense as there was there was a couple of hype there was a couple of high profile issues and then it was business as usual status quo now what the governor is doing in this particular case is he's trying to get the state afloat by not kicking companies square in the fanny and as far as doling out it was a company's it was clearly an error on his that's the president the president has confidence killers with. they've it was the conflicts and they were committing the . you and i are having two separate conversations and i thought you were talking about the high profile throwed cases in the public assistance service i don't know

where it's there were publications explaining to these people how to go ahead and build the system the taxpayer i'm by the way they're not stealing from these people they're just turning the stick it back a little bit too because a lot of valuable or not deserving excuse me you too can make a couple thousand bucks are. ok and what he is doing with the corporations is a necessity we can't keep kicking the businesses where in the patootie and expect them to keep paying the bills it's just a matter of economic necessity would you rather have fifty and actually receive fifty or demand a dollar i'm getting out of it's own that hit us the lego weather and i suspect david you're coming in from new york and i'm not sure if you have a monitor there that you can see but there's a there's a so let me just explain this chart this i cannot i'm just looking at the camera ok there's a chart here that we're going to put on the screen right now and this church shows two thousand and corporate income taxes approach percentage of g.d.p.

the highest country is israel it's almost four percent belgium it goes down belgium canada denmark are ireland denmark japan hungary spain in one thirty slovenia now we're getting below two percent of corporate income taxes a percentage of g.d.p. slovenia austria france germany the bottom two states are the united states and iceland we have of these roughly twenty five countries we have the second lowest corporate taxes in the world why do our corporations need more tax breaks. well it sounds like you're about to call for a five year plan to distribute the wealth the corporations if you haven't noticed are suffering much more than the average individual who is working for a corporation these companies are really struggling to make ends meet i'm not talking about the large corporations who are powering around with the president really sticking it to the taxpayer i'm talking about the the large companies that

are implying american citizens now i do have to resist having the russian time with their corporate jets they can only do they can only depreciate them over five years and those seven years like wait a minute tom don't forget why they made that rule so they could actually do more commerce so these companies could sell more jets so now that they've done it never once done their part it seems that we want to take these things away i wouldn't be surprised if that's what happens in the future with the roth ira it's going to be too sweet a plum for the government to allow you know to keep its promises so that's the case with so per se asia so when we stop giving tax breaks to corporations that's taking away but when we don't give money to needy families that's not taking away when i listen here no one is stopping you me or anyone else from giving money to needy families except for this administration that has made it much harder to deduct charitable giving i have to tell you sometimes you are going to i'm driving

a country we wish to save it i'm talking about it sector government could do a lot better than the government serve because we wouldn't have so much misappropriation and so much waste ok you think billionaires who have real they are going to just pass out the money to us are going to follow us around and really really carefully make sure that our you know that we're we're dealing well with the money that we get from them or from the churches. well do you think our elected officials are being good stewards of our tax money right now actually in oh yeah i do. will you and i are you know social security has ever received a paycheck. that's to have i have a relative who is on unemployment he said to jump through a hell of a lot of hoops to make it work it looks like there are people who are actually paying and these things. ok i can argue with that when the system works so it's great unfortunately the monies that we pay in we are losing a big portion of it with a needless bureaucracy and what really is

a ministration people who just runs on which field we're talking about if it is like if you look at things like medicare this three percent system for. then i know that that's absolutely not true when you send monies to the federal government and they have to disperse it i assure you a great deal of that money is lost in transit and that's just the way the mop flops david david i will i will leave you with the last word on that thank you very much for being with us tonight thank you appreciate and thanks for having me again here why. you being here rick snyder isn't the only governor who screen working families to give huge tax breaks a transnational corporations so too has governor scott walker in wisconsin chris christie in new jersey jon case and you know heigho rick scott in florida and it was goes on and on sheriff nottingham would be proud today as republican party.

rick perry is a big government socialists but a governor good hair is on the campaign trail touting his impressive record of job creation census data shows that most of that texas job creation the right about was thanks to the gutter but government during two thousand and in two thousand and ten governor rick perry added a higher percentage of government workers than any other governor in the country more than seven hundred thousand new governor government workers or so this is the same guy who claims that the government plan create jobs is action show rick perry seems to get the single simple economic truth that the government is the employer and spender of last resort when the economy falls on hard times so why isn't he preaching this message now that he's running for the white house joining me now is dan gainor dan president of the and t. boone pickens free market fellow a business immediately you know better than the use washington post to think fellow well. we've had to and probably three at this point recession's during the time

rick perry is being governor of texas ok during that time to look at it thoroughly you would not cherry pick your stats you use the whole time ok the whole time he's added a million fifty thousand jobs over those two hundred eighty thousand or government jumps at the very same time the state is added more than four million new people and so in fact he hasn't actually added government workers the way you're pretending the or your to the ratio of government workers has gone down what is really well taken professionally if you if you look at the influx of people he's got he said an enormous number of people coming in from mexico many of them illegally wealthy mexicans is escaping the drug problems that they have they have there you see a lot of people coming in from new mexico and arizona state has grown substantially and when you look at the ratio of the influx. people too the number of jobs texas is actually the worst in the nation in terms of job creation based on population texas is the government in just our canoe our country has

a lot has lost the time we're texas has added more than a million jobs our country has lost more than a million jobs so we're going to tell you he has a new last as long as you can imagine she would be that the rate at which texas is ready to go if there is a there in two thousand and seven two thousand and ten ok we'll take a good chunk of time forty seven percent of the nation's government jobs were created in texas but texas forty seven percent of the whole government jobs were created in texas or texas lost one hundred seventy eight thousand private sector jobs that period it gained one hundred twenty five thousand public sector it had a rich huge influx of people so now if you let so great kerry is doing whatever he's simply you know that there is a any rational state you add people then you add government you don't add government first so it's only natural they are in the bunch of people when they had to add government but if you take since the suppose it obama recovery of two thousand and nine they've actually added almost exactly three hundred thousand two

hundred ninety seven thousand and only thirty one of the three one thousand of those jobs are federal workers so the state workers so it's a what they've done in fact is you're picking a cherry pick any you're going to lay on road signs this texas leads the nation in the creation of low pay or minimum wage jobs is that the kind of thing that we texas also has next to mexico which is right on the border is that your local state and you know i mean you know texas it has it's that also into those markets are other than on tree if perry becomes president the model for every other country should be get next to every other state should he get get next to a third world country really not a bad is if you're either going in or cheap you're going to lose you deal with the cards you're dealt just as if you were president and the president we've got right now has not dealt well with jobs and your side admits that as well as our side by side i think. there's has died. well with jobs we went from losing eight hundred thousand jobs a month later george bush to fourteen straight months of private sector job creation that's pretty substantial because we also had nearly half the time

president bush was president we had unemployment of five percent or less so you know you can you can look at it you can look at that as good as it would borrow three trillion dollars to run these wars i mean you know we were building a heritage gama disease i should you know the dot com collapse he had here and here you are what he inherited he inherited a budget surplus and he inherited i am of course the people always would tell about the one and not talk about the other as somebody who's a veteran of not one but two of those job losses that resulted from the dot com collapse believe me i know a lot of people lost jobs so so why do every end result economies every president gets the cards they're doubling every whenever taxes are over fifty percent people make more than a million dollars a year in the last one hundred fifty years whatever taxes are about fifty percent we don't. or they drop below fifty percent we do it public and so you basically are and you know i'm new here and i've got money and you're anti basically

a law that applies equally to everybody i mean i am suggesting that something that only rich people can get money really easily and at low cost that they gamble with it and that produces bubbles. and i see news we should set up laws they treat people differently taxes it's would follow you know so you can sue i'm saying then what else i'm saying that if you want has drug laws that way why not that you know we need so we go back to the tax rates that we have the 1940's of the one nine hundred eighty s. that kept us from you like the swedish law that we were replied traffic lines the same way based on wealth ice i am suggesting that we should go back to the taxes that we had where we didn't have bubbles and we had nice stable steady growth from the one nine hundred forty the one nine hundred eighty s. and dan rather to thanks for dropping by good to see you really is the empacher republicans like rick perry know the truth about government spending and how to revive the economy. and he's pretending they don't because they want the economy to tank in my humble opinion i think it'll help their chances and twenty two will.

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