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i think. either one will. we have to go back to sleep or safe get ready because of the freedom.
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sorry guys it's time for show and talents and i program last time we spoke about dick cheney i was defended his use of torture techniques and his reporting of these and i'm more after speaking openly about how engaged in those acts we asked if you think the dick cheney should be tried for war crimes plus the producer for treason essentially to find out what you have to say. probe as weak former vice president dick cheney has paraded through the mainstream media promoting the release of his new book he did not hesitate to stand by the use of waterboarding and torture in the aftermath of nine eleven and even went so far to say the methods of the should be used so well that i despise president is out on the book tour touting his use of torture we want to know if you thought he should be on trial for war crimes instead well daniel said that cheney should be tried for war crimes played a part in the deception in the run up to the war not told those yes and there should. an investigation into how burned as well ok so basically the overwhelming
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response was yes yes yes and charge him with war crimes i think we all know that's just not going to happen phyllis saw the reality deal said the bush administration lied to congress and the un but with it they actually broke laws is dubious james that our legal system would never convict him because the rules are different for someone if they're rich famous or powerful and jason added if we search trying our leaders as war criminals i think you may be surprised who else would be convicted so how does dick cheney get away with going on national t.v. and openly admitting to war crimes without so much as a hard hitting question well just another example of how you are a powerful man in the us the rule of law almost certainly doesn't apply to you. as always thank you for your responses and here's our next question for you we just wrapped up speaking of republican presidential candidate buddy roemer who is kept his campaign contributions out one hundred dollars that way he says no special
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interests can have their claws into his actions if you were president let us know what you think you think that there should be a limit to even americans should be limited in how much they can donate presidential campaigns you can respond to us on facebook twitter and here too i mean those responses just might make it on air. now a small courtroom in upstate new york case with a lot of sensitive information is being shared the two aviation companies are now engaged in a lawsuit over a breach of contract and they are rich more aviation which supplied corporate jets and crews to the u.s. government and private aviation broker sports fly air which organizes flights so the interesting part here is the details of this lawsuit being discussed in court and all of secret cia rendition flights turns out the flights by these aviation companies involved touching down in countries like afghanistan sri lanka libya and pakistan and these companies were picking up and dropping off prisoners and distributing them among secret prisons operated by the sea. around the world all in
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their private jets all organized. now the over three hundred thousand dollars per flight price tag for the secret flights that's part of the documents for this lawsuit you know what i really find interesting is in the past oh people have attempted to sue the cia the government even the flight companies for rendition the cases have always been put to a halt under the state secrets privilege a short while back we told you about a group of five prisoners who took their case of rendition all the way to the supreme court but the highest court decided not to hear it and use state secrets as an excuse so why is it that any information involving the cia is so sensitive that even the supremes court can't evade it but meanwhile rinky dink lawsuit in upstate new york pours out extensive details of extraordinary rendition during a dispute between two aviation companies after all in past u.s. solicitor general neal could fall said the government's interest in national security must be deemed paramount to the interests of private litigants in pursuing civil actions so what's just somebody must have messed up this time and in the
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meantime hopefully groups like the a.c.l.u. are taking note because this could be the break that they've been looking for to get all those other rendition cases actually heard in court. that was saga of how the unredacted version of over two hundred fifty thousand diplomatic cables attained by wiki leaks caught on the internet goes on we can take his father lawsuit against the guardian and release a statement on twitter saying a guardian journalist has a previously undetected act of gross negligence or malice and in violation of a signed security agreement with the guardian's editor in chief alan rusbridger disclose top secret decryption passwords to the entire unredacted wiki leaks cable gate archives now we've already spoken to the state department and commenced litigation action we will issue a formal statement formal statement in due course so the u.s. state department is confirmed and they did get a heads up from the organization but they said they have no plans to cooperate with them so could be negligence on the part of wiki leaks could be negligence on the part of the guardian or who knows who else but the mainstream media has been quick
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to jump on this story so the drama to put julian a son into the spotlight again and i'm fortunate result of this coverage is what's being overlooked but the cables actually reveal a recently made public state department cable provides evidence that u.s. troops executed at least ten iraqi civilians and then call that an airstrike to destroy the evidence among the dead are four women and five children and autopsies performed in the iraqi city of to create show that all of the dead have been handcuffed and shot in the head it's a gruesome tragedy and it nobody wants to pay any attention to it joining me to discuss this is a civil liberties blogger at firedoglake ken i want to thank you for joining us tonight and now correct me if i'm wrong but were you one of the first people that actually spotted this in the cables yeah as part of the. hashtag venture that wiki leaks invited people to participate and i was going through the cables and i happened to find this communications log. so once you actually put it out
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there at least tweeted about it then you monitored the media attention and at least from what i could tell it was pretty obvious to me who actually did pick up on it people that are worried about civil liberties people like glenn greenwald out there but we've really seen it plan on the airwaves in the mainstream media at all well no and actually the media watch group fair has pointed out that if you look at the recent coverage from the new york times they give top dollar to the assigned scandal to their trivia about what he may or may not have done and what his role may have in the disclosure of the unredacted on published cables that are circulating on the internet right now and they know to you instances you know they they provide a few revelations to readers but missing is this very very scandalous appalling telling of this inquiry from the un special rapporteur sure still i'll stand about
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this raid that happened in two thousand and six yeah can you give us a few more of the details that have been released in this cable about the raid. right so in this cable it's their communications logs to the to the mission in geneva and he basically placed an inquiry asking a number of questions about information he had received about multinational forces raid going into a home and as you said in the setup of your segment five children were killed and four women were killed and they were taken outside of the home and they were lined up and they were handcuffed they were in handcuffs and they were executed and the autopsies show you know from the morgue they were able to see that they were shot in the head and that they were handcuffed. and then afterwards a airstrike came along and demolished the home so there wasn't any evidence left
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for any investigators to go in you know such as people maybe from a human rights group like the un to look and examine what had happened what else you know went on there when the un special rapporteur wanted to find out more of the information to the pentagon at least comply with the investigation but as of right now the un special rapporteur says that he has not received any more details from his inquiry that he wanted and he has noted that part of the procedure is flawed because there's there's really not much way to enforce be disclosure of information about those special rabbits who are seeking now you know unfortunately this is not the only grew some tragic story that we've seen from the wiki leaks cables are from what's been released but i feel like this is constantly become an issue and i don't know should we be frustrated right because one of the problems you can say is the over classification of so many documents by the government and
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so you can think that anything fake says well we just stop classifying everything but here you go we have all these state department cables that have been released and you have a problem this is the media still continues to ignore that nothing to you about that. i mean that's a that's a larger question of the way the media has been consolidated of the way that you have the pentagon the way that you have military industrial complex influence on the media the way you have anchors and pundits that are incredibly different you know incredibly deferential to the powerful who are in government and you know they'll go out of their way to make sure that they don't say anything that could be construed as somehow being a risk to national security and bill you've been go so far as to point the blame at julian aside for uncovering details of atrocities such as this of summary
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executions of extra judicial killings torture renditions and they'll say that this sort of information is going to endanger people and that it's going to put people's lives at risk when in fact in reality the huge problem is that we continue to carry out this activity that we continue to have these actions carried out by military forces and you have people in the state department who participate in the cover up and you have people in the pentagon who participate in not actually doing any investigations and of course feeling assigned always better and easy target when it comes to the sensational aspect as just a human being or more of a celebrity these days is the figurehead of wiki leaks but so you know in the meantime we don't really know because it is leading up to be a he said she said between wiki leaks between the guardian and now they have already launched a lawsuit will have to see how that ends up but let's say you know that the
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information is out there regardless at the moment so do you think that this in some way could be used against wiki leaks in the case of the u.s. is trying to build against them. well i think so already and there's already been a representative miller out of michigan who has renewed the calls that. has again called wiki leaks a terrorist organization and this has been a favorite montra some of the most right wing he will but hasn't actually even called him right wing because it really doesn't matter what kind of politician people have been really really willing to call the wiki leaks organization a terrorist organization and i think that you know you raise a good point the fact that they're now being put under the microscope here for releasing on redacted unpublished cables is really playing into the sort of clans the pentagon might have to discredit the wiki leaks organization and if you
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know the official argument that the pentagon is making right now about what has happened it sort of seems like they're painting the picture for us citizens in the united states well you may not like the overclassification that happens in government you may not like the secrecy cancer that our government has but if you put it in the hands of this australian this this reason a guy named julian a songe look at what you get it out of control and so you need to learn to just need to patience and we'll get you the details that we think you need to know i can i want to thank you so much for joining us tonight of course we'll continue to follow this that the philosophy and the stories unfold thanks. also ahead tonight another fox news host trying to make that argument but all of our economic woes have only occurred since president obama took office what i feel are wrong as i told time award and then in happy hour and i phone five goes missing so that's the p.r. trick from apple plus jenny churchill kept an on line at direct stick around his
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advice. into it only when there was a mechanism if you don't work to bring justice or accountability. i have every right to know what my government should do if you want to know why i pay taxes. well i would characterize obama as a charismatic version of american exceptionalism. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so silly you think you understand it and then he glimpse something else here's some other part of it and realized everything is ok and you don't i'm sorry welcome to the big picture.
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let's not forget that we had an apartheid regime right now. i think it's readable and funny well. whatever government says they're going to keep you safe get ready if you give them their freedom.
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i did time for tonight's top side award and tonight it goes to meghan kelly over at fox news the midday anchor held a panel discussion on her show this week on the economy and who's to blame for our current conditions so just take a listen now she's starts this interview segment and pay very close attention to the headline then or at the bottom of the screen. it comes as we are seeing the white house under growing pressure from all sides of the state of the economy here take a look at this is just some of yesterday's white house press briefing. and you made the case that the president inherited this economy when does it become is it good.
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now jim is that graphic the bottom white house argues it inherited a bad economy is that really something of up or debate this fox news actually think that there is an argument there but i want to begin kelly debates of the earth is really round of the sun actually rises in the east and sets in the west but let's move on next i want to play you another clip so you can see we're making kelly decide to take this discussion so is the blame president bush gave an effective argument nearly three years after president obama was elected. you know megan i don't really think that blaming george w. bush for the economy is working on anybody but he'll go out of the destruction said that they inherited the bad economy and that's just a fact but they can didn't let that all due to obama really inherit the bad economy go leslie you know listening to the folks on the right there get a little tired of hearing that you know is in particular the comment that he can't get us out of the economic pitch because he inherited a one trillion dollars deficit. i am going to clear
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a few things up for the fox news crowd president obama does own this economy he's actually said numerous times i don't have to face a voters next year can you convince them that he's done enough to turn the economy around to keep his job who knows but there is no debate about the fact that obama inherited a horrible economy the world was at a financial freefall when he took office thanks in part to george w. bush and his policies and the balls even decades past but now the same interview begun actually pointed out that numerous jobs were lost before obama took office so thank you megan for actually providing a little tiny itty bitty bit of context during your interview but i'm going to go one step further than megan take a look at this if the number of jobs lost or created under bush or obama now as you can see during two thousand and eight under the bush administration that connally was treading thousands of jobs each month now take a look at this part of the graphic it's from the november third election until about three months into obama's new term as president more than two million jobs
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were lost so easy to blame for all those job cuts before he even got into office i don't think so is he responsible for the economy right now oh yes absolutely but making kelly and fox news can't argue that obama didn't it harriet's an economic mess he inherited the global meltdown but now it does belong to him but nice try megan that's why we give you tonight's tools on work. ok time for happy hour this evening and joining me tonight archie producer jenny churchill and time to summon a reporter and blogger for think progress dot org thank you for joining me ladies. our first story this is something that just keeps happening over and over and over again and i'm wondering about bill's doing it on purpose take a look. so many engineers that apple maybe they should swear off happy hour and i
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phone five right turns up and if you kill a ball or near san francisco before it goes on sale. now if you remember correctly this happened last time with the i phone four as well when some drunk out of lawyer to well didn't decide to but was so drunk that they obviously left their prototype with a new phone the hasn't come out yet but i don't know do you think they're doing it on purpose or do they just need to put like a leash on there drunk employees not give them out prototypes and just carry around with them if they know they go on booze all the time yeah i mean i think that at this point you have to deduce that they're doing this on purpose i mean they're not really getting a ton of publicity about the phone right now so i'm pretty excited i'm going to get my really i phone to be that much different yelling a lot i so i sort of wait three so why oh i totally need a new one it's like. i need an upgrade at least i was upgraded to to kill. you because they would come up with an out for this you know just an app for like maybe a twelve step program for their employees. seems like they clearly need to go to
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the bars and maybe just have an app for that that would work or maybe some kind of little device that make it like blow up a person realizes they left it there is getting out and now i'm tired and come across as a really good idea you destroy all evidence slash every other patron in the bar off to just a little mini little baby explosion all right let's move on to our next story here . urban dictionary a lot of fun and actually if you look at my name as a commission there's as well but no federal agents also have to use a rejection area and here's something that comes from their web site next time. if you really want is going to tell you on our. blog there is a. guy you. yeah you know we don't want that to happen so that's why you go to urban dictionary but that's just i guess for normal be able to want to go on the street be cool but federal agents actually had to use it to figure out what
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a man named justin campbell was talking about when he wrote on his facebook page and said that one in there got my pistol cause confiscated i got plenty of other guns and i want to merck that blank blank blank so they had to look up what work means which actually means physically beating someone so severely as to cause their death but after that they've got to arrest him on felony charges and you know i'm honestly really concerned about the story you saw the picture i think i looks like a seriously upstanding citizen and i don't think urban dictionary is a reliable source but if you meant like this like what if mirka him they don't know i couldn't really learn to be able to arrest somebody because the urban dictionary said that what they said was bad isn't just like using wikipedia for your college dissertation or like green eggs and ham for cocaine so you can we really rely on the urban dictionary couldn't like people just make up words now to throw police off the trail no you know i mean i think we should all go to urban dictionary and make up ridiculous words and just start using them and make up crimes and yes the
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whole you leave it right i'm really enjoying this idea can we get on let's do it alone i would rather after we do my bombing of the i thought ok you know this guy's just. ok.d. it let me tell you about chris john he is not libyan he's actually an american student he's twenty one years old from from l.a. and so he showed up at all these pictures with the libyan rebels and so what happened is that he actually made his way he had a one way ticket home from cairo made his way to tripoli to help the rebels and he told the the national that he came to live because it's the end of my summer vacation so i thought it would be cool to join the rebels this is one of the only real revolutions in the world should you be joining revolution just cause. you think they're cool and just i'm just not sure about that i wonder if you actually think you what's going on around a list internship over. but i guess i have to point out he's from your home area
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and it's just so i mean i'm just saying it's for me to be like oh my god like cool summer vacation i admire the washington d.c. people have decided that they should go be part of the revolution so i think they're more revolutionaries or want to be really you know you're from washington d.c. who have gone over there to be part of the revolution who have gone she tried to cover their revolution ok that's kind of a little way to ferry the brooklyn hipsters clearly would have done this a week ago you know they would. do you know yeah they did you know revolution revolution just like they really know right exactly exactly but you know i mean you got to wonder what how i know the job market's bad but as a student like housing a k forty seven skill going to help you is like entry level jobs now looking for a k forty seven is changing there are have allusions happening here. ok this chinese story resort in china's hunan province has
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launched a p.r. initiative they've declared that they're you know offer free tickets to any female visitors over the age of twenty two who claim that they are virgins and they said that they're doing it for you take it as a gesture of kindness towards the female community so you just say i'm a virgin you can say for free. not so bad honor code. i mean or could i was. that you know they can check i don't want to take you and some governments are disturbing not happy ok anyway so much so i think you just want more women because there is no shortage of women in china so they're saying he can stay for free just personally for a person i just love that it's like instead of being like oh we'll give total skanks a free room it was like they had to go for the virgins we were business model right here. if you're here so much so guys like come here and we'll be girls who won't sleep with you you know i know but it's all your luck i could make it work all speaking of love we have a really really sweet b.t.o. that we found online today and somebody to happens to be an admirer of our very own
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jenny churchill take a look. so you know this is when she could. have a question for jenny true true archie producer. churchill and i want to go out. but you can. live with the. oh finally some good. we meet up some time. to. talk a little. but really it's just inspired me. to be. right. right place in the background i love you jenny churchill i love you. that is just so we don't think i've ever seen and i think you should totally go out
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for a month live with them and go out with them you're trying to fire me that savagery no matter ok i want to have him come down here but i don't know what to do with your boyfriend oh she's going out of my er i don't know how it was. you know i honestly think that was the nicest thing that anyone i can't believe that he took time out of his day just to do something and i really i really appreciate it thank you hotel in china you guys could. you out of something i can actually better grab that guy thanks for joining me tonight and that's it for night's show thanks for tuning in and make sure to come back tomorrow putting the post investigative reporter radley balko is going to be on the show to tell us about a disgraced medical examiner. testified one woman now faces forty four years in jail as a result of his testimony now the meantime got to get to the fan of a lot of people on facebook and follow us on twitter you missed any of tonight's show or any other night and let's catch elocute you've got comics flash deal on a show and coming up next is the new.
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you know how sometimes you see a story and it seems so for like you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else and you hear or see some other part of it and realize everything you thought you knew you don't talk i'm tom harpur welcome to the big picture. download the official auntie application joy on the phone or i pod touch from the i choose ops to. watch all g.'s life on the go. video on demand i'll tease mine gold comes and says feeds now in the palm of your.
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