tv [untitled] September 2, 2011 4:00pm-4:30pm EDT
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markets. find out what's really happening to the global economy for a no holds barred look at the global financial headlines. kinds of reports. it's clear that companies wants to live groups are leading the way toward a brighter more prosperous future well now fast forward one year and it definitely does not look like the future president obama was hoping for so with zero jobs added the month of august in the us losing out to competition from china is the u.s. green with envy. are the images the world is seeing out of syria a country seemingly on the brink of revolution but in a country where foreign correspondents are few and far between is there some manipulation coming from the mainstream media we'll hear from our reporter inside the country. he and i really. like being gay
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mean i do believe that people have the right to whatever they want even the right to watch porn in a public library as are questions drawing up a passionate debate will take you to the big apple we're debbie does the library legally. good afternoon it's friday september second four pm here in washington d.c. i'm lauren lyster and you're watching our to new jobs numbers came out today for august maybe you heard there showing for the first time since one thousand nine hundred forty five the u.s. has created no new jobs zero the unemployment rate remains unchanged then it nine point one percent and guess what folks as obama gets ready to roll out a jobs plan next week brace for what the president predicts average unemployment will be for the next year for two thousand and twelve. nine percent you heard me
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right the same number that unemployment has been hovering around for about the last two years to figure out why this may be let's look at how some of the administration's plans for job creation have worked out for one obama has placed a big emphasis on clean energy to put the u.s. in the running with green energy competitors around the world from china to germany our competitors are waging is storage effort to lead in developing new energy technologies there factories like this being built in china factories like this being built in germany nobody is playing for second place these countries recognize that the nation that leads the clean energy economy is likely to lead the global economy and if we fail to recognize that same imperative we respond when behind so for one loans were given through the stimulus obama stimulus the solar
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companies a lender i got when they got a half a billion dollars to make solar panels they also bought a visit from president obama to show what that effort with doing business we can see positive impacts right here it's a little less than a year ago we were standing on what was an empty one but through the recovery act this company received a loan to expand its operations this new factory is the result of those loans. and fifteen months later where is the lender well that's filing for bankruptcy laying off eleven hundred workers and why well it can't compete with lower cost chinese rivals and apollos to other u.s. solar manufacturers evergreen solar spectra are out ever going solar is one and the instructor why is another they have both filed for bankruptcy in recent weeks to why because of increased competition from chinese rivals so why can't the us
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compete well stephen dunning he is former program director of knowledge management at the world bank is here to help us understand that he's also author of this book you see here the leaders guide to radical management reinventing the workplace for the twenty first century and we're so happy to have you thanks for being here thank you so just taking a look at that example of these solar plants and even obama back in two thousand and ten he pointed out fifteen years ago the u.s. moves manufacturing forty percent of the world's solar panels and fast forward to two thousand it was five per cent why can't the us get this manufacturing back and compete with china and see to get it back and hold sectors of the economy has grown from some of the expertise that isn't here anymore so when. i was on the road to build it up because i had no choice but to go to asia it was a little expertise in this country to make it happen some of the pieces come from
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trying and from taiwan print korea simply isn't possible so you have a whole sectors which have gone you have sex there's a richer but risk and a few sectors which are still here so that picture is one of the reasons why i think we're not looking at just the cyclical from the middle but a phase transition well and this is something that you have written about and you wrote it in a very popular forbes article that's gotten more than two hundred fifty thousand page views so it obviously really resonated with people why do you think it resonated so much with people. and you saw it was true. from their own experience i mean they don't really get something that nobody is really talking about from that perspective and they also saw that i understood why it was happening that the example that i gave to help. which. was making computers one of their suppliers came to them and said look we're making this little circuit board we're doing pretty well why don't we take over the motherboard because that's
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got your core expertise and if you handed over to us then you'd be able to let go all those people and we'll make it your make a lot more money and some of it's better off of that and they made more money and their profits went up and then the company came back and said well why don't we do that with the whole computer why don't we do that with assembling the computer why don't we do that with the supply chain in successive steps the old profits were going up and up but the final time it came back it was not reported to the top a great start look at the other retailers and say look we have a computer which is better than dogs and twenty percent cheaper being go one company is gone and when whole rays of company do the same thing you have whole industries basically disappearing and so it sounds like you're saying in these solar companies that's just part of a much larger trend that speaks to where manufacturing has gone over the last decade but what do you really attribute that to as far as the reasons why it all
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started to go overseas the underlying forces that these companies are in pursuing short term profits they've been seeing that is the goal of the company to make money for their shareholders and when you happens the goal it makes sense to destroy the company you start doing things that don't make sense for long term so there's a whole movement underway to marry into organizations differently and to focus not only money for the shareholders but on the lighting customers through continuous innovation. when you adopt that goal it doesn't make sense to ship you know expertise overseas because you're going to need that impudent like my customers that are people pretty much tart that that is the business model in business for and that is the model of business that is then instituted and believed in every level of firm policy to corporations to management consultants to c.e.o.'s not now. but only if you read the business books turn to business school classes
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listen to pretty much every c.e.o. when you pass carefully what they're saying the bottom line is making profits for the shareholders for most firms and so this is regard to roger martin wonderful article the age of customer capitalism that we are in fact passing from. where organizations focus on making money to shareholders to a new way where they focus totally. colliding with postum or so or organizations like apple like amazon like sales force do that and you find when you do that you actually make normally and if you're focused on making money you have a come on we just saw a report that came out that c.e.o.'s and twenty of the twenty five of the biggest u.s. companies the c.e.o.'s need a lot more than a company paying corporate tax it doesn't really seem like we're seeing a huge shift from this paradigm of businesses where profits are the bottom line
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c.e.o.'s are paid lavishly and it doesn't matter at what cost that comes but you're not looking at instances the longer term trends if you look at a. wonderful study the shift index by a lawyer looks at the rate of return on assets for firms of the last four years they have declined by seventy five percent the the life expectancy of a firm in the fortune five hundred used to be seventy five years it's no less than fifteen years and heading faster wards five is this what we see. the outsourcing of jobs and the loss of competitiveness there is reflected in the new statistics about what it considers the problem so they are making profits like dell dell was making tons of money but then suddenly realize there was nothing left and that's what's happening in the organization so some of the famous organizations the star wars like wal-mart and don't like to look at the share price of the last ten years basically are static or it's gotten significantly that the stock market has
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realized there's a huge difference between companies that can innovate continuously like amazon like apple like sells for certain companies that are basically just treading water and continuing with trying to make money for a show that was so this the whole revolution the way organizations are managed to cope would say that large numbers of the fortune five hundred would be at grass this put the terms of there and if you look carefully at the implications of it it's inexorable but if you look really carefully you're citing a few companies but more big picture is this something that is really at all representative of corporations in the united states go it so you look at twenty thousand u.s. firms over forty years who would fully comprehensive every sector trend is widespread. a few companies a slight few sectors a slightly better if you were slightly worse but the overall picture is is. it's
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pervasive it's probative that people are starting to manage the longer term and not are short term profits with big companies being managed in the way that they are are dying faster than ever so you're saying that a company either has to adopt what you're talking about or else they're going to go out of business because they're not going to be able to compete because they're just going to be competing with these other countries they can do it better equipment that's it's the light or die and let's see if you're able to innovate and keep innovating and. i think your customers you're going to go out of business so how does a company do that in the united states when as you've pointed out the manufacturing has gone overseas and so so has all of the competency behind that the r. and d. the ability to even produce both apple and amazon and shown that it is possible most of the amazons and apple's. manufacturers are in asia but it's a very precarious position they are in fact thinking steps to bring the boost up
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their expertise in this country and i think as manufacturing. changes around the world i mean even the manufacturer of apple's products foxconn is talking about. introducing a million robots with him three years they now have a million employees so if i was one of those million employees would people confident about how long my job was going to be in for it's gone so the whole picture of manufacturing is changing and performs to survive and thrive we really need to be thinking what are the advantages of having things close so that you can in fact interact with the people the firms that are making them speaking of manufacturing and where it's going something that we were talking about in our editorial meeting with everything made in china from you know probably the shirt that i'm wearing to the death that i'm sitting at you know is why aren't chinese cars in the united states or in europe. cars are
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not a big part of the picture here but. do you know why or why they haven't why that hasn't been heavily imported to the u.s. or to europe really won't. have a foothold in the market so we're going. manufacturing things that whether it's been stopped from whether it's. so. called market or market is a very competitive one so they start from scratch and it would be rather difficult so we are doing things for which they are competitive. in the united states is trying to compete at things which it's bailing to thank you for giving us your insight into how the business model you believe it's changing we'll see how those change shape up long term thanks so much that was stephen dunning author and former program director of knowledge management at the world bank. and still ahead right here on r t the gruesome images we have all been seeing from syria anti-government
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protesters gunfire excessive violence we'll have the reality. because with those pictures can we really trust the mainstream media for the truth a lot of them unconfirmed or is there coverage of syria being seriously censored. plus to a place where censorship is not bound by law even if some want to be tied up we're talking about pornography in public libraries and something new york are too quiet about it. when i was like no years old on the job with truth. i was. pretty. it was kind of
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a good yesterday. i'm very proud of the agency it's complete. welcome back ok let's go to syria now where the government is accused of yet more vicious and deadly assaults on its cities but with most foreign correspondents there remaining under tight control it's hard to get balanced reports and objective commentary artie's arena glu show is one of the few who is reporting from the troubled country and she sets the record straight watch this. mass murder and terror in catastrophe a country on the brink of a revolution this is what you see every time syria pops up in the headlines but what is really happening in a country where hardly any foreign journalists are present there's even the
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implication that some of the images we're being shown have been digitally manipulate manipulated and there have been reports about that on on the available online that you can watch of the footage that was taken in bahrain and said to be taken in and it's showing the same footage and different stations with different backgrounds to be brought in so there are some very strange things that are going on right now an example of such manipulation is the case of palestinian refugees in the coastal city of latakia the stadium i'm not talking about in the center of the controversy when according to various reports anywhere from several hundred to several thousand people were gathered here most of those people were palestinian refugees who came from the palestinian refugee camp in the sunni quarter of latakia now according to the opposition forces and to some of the palestinians when they got to the stadium their i.d.'s were taken away their cell phones were also taken away and they really prepared for the worst because you have to realize that herding large numbers of people into stadiums carries them with other very macabre
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macabre association especially in this particular region so the ankle sprain has sort of a practice of hurting people in the stadiums and then and then committing mass executions we went to the part of the city which supposedly came under fire from planes and maybe ships and spoke to the refugees to find out what happened. some people walking around the neighborhood yelling there will be shelling from sea soon and everyone has to get out i didn't go anywhere just stayed in my house i can see the bay from my window and there was nothing in their side from the usual patrol. still gunfire did break out between the army and unknown gunmen so some five thousand palestinians left their homes hearing for their lives. we wanted to leave so that our kids wouldn't hear the gunshots we hid in our house and when there was a break in the fighting we went to the stadium we stayed there for three days then came back to london so did two thousand refugees only to realise there was no air
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and navy attacks taking place on the streets. like we were lined to the heart of the. syrian authorities have long been insisting armed groups are behind the interest in syria and it's them who starts shooting first instruction from time bloodshed those statements are all but ignored by the media there are more of syria is fighting a media war and it's news and. the syrian government might have realized its mistake of banishing foreign journalist from the country media law has returned but there is no guarantee it will go a long way towards achieving serious image as portrayed on major networks in those courts in the area. and joining us from our new york studio to talk about the media portrayal and what the mainstream media stands to gain from a one sided version of things is the maker and blogger at newsday sector dot org
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who dissects all of this for his job danny schechter thanks for being here danny so first of all do you do you yes or no do you think that the mainstream media has been too one sided its coverage of syria. well you know like in many other conflicts the coverage tends to reflect the often the political outlook of the countries you know for whom you know the t.v. networks work i mean the countries in the gulf area some of them have very good relations with syria so the coverage hasn't been as sharp as it has let's say in other countries and the the question of armed groups is not you know definite on one side or the other there are have been some armed groups there there are reports of headquarters of the bass party being burned down and the like so you know that gives credence to certain syrian claims but in the absence of having journalists there from around the world to investigate all of this to look into it the
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assumption is that the syrian government is lying which it may well be but what does a station let's say like a network like c.n.n. stand to gain when it has a reporter file a story from say lebannon reporting on the is alleged atrocities committed by bashar al assad happening in syria. why i don't think this is i don't think it necessarily have anything directly to gain but you know the coverage of these conflicts has been so poor in many many countries you know that you know you have to kind of not rely on just t.v. images you have to also look at social media you have to read press accounts and in some cases press reports differ from country to country about the very same incident so the israeli press in some cases has been better at covering some of this than some of the arab press you wouldn't think so but apparently it is according to an arab media watch group and other people who are analyzing all of
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this so i think you just have to be suspicious and not jump to conclusions because a lot of what you're watching is really in the process of happening we don't really have a lot of perspective and context on it yet do you think yes or no the u.s. mainstream media has done to conclusions with area well i mean i think it's jumped to conclusions everywhere whether it has with syria or not it's hard to hard to assess because a lot of reporters are not in there you know so they're relaying secondhand reports rumors tips you know and then they revise it accordingly so many died no it was only so many so you know a lot of the first reports have to be really question what i'll just there at what al-jazeera in the case of libya for example do you think that channel has been to one side supporting the revelations that analysts have alleged that. well a lot of people feel that way in part because you know at the very beginning of the
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conflict then al jazeera cameraman who is from cover from qatar was shot and killed by libyan forces and this had a big reaction emotionally in doha the capital of jakarta a big funeral for him he was very well known and so the cutter government had joined the nato forces whether that was you know the reason and not remains to be seen but they seem to have a closer relationship or has had in the past with us you know with the sheer in in syria so they don't seem to have been as critical on the other hand the syrians have not let your correspondents in so their own media policy may be working against them but do you think then that libya i write scares me that al jazeera its coverage of libya is influenced by qatar support the rebels. well you know they would deny it you know a lot of people think it may be you know i don't watch it
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a nice to know but there's definitely been a show we see a bias in support of the rebels there without the kind of critical reporting that we've seen in other countries there's also criticism of you know of al-jazeera coverage of bahrain in part because the of the year of qatar is you know and the gulf states are very nervous about what's happening there will soon be happening in their own countries so yes everybody has interests to defend and protect and sometimes the spillover so the way media covers an event or doesn't cover it and i just want to bring in just to kind of give an example one instance one reports ok in that congressman dennis who is then it was titled secret files u.s. officials say to gadhafi and to cite a little bit about report if we can bring it up it was citing you know is that it appears well to is a former bush official was not the only prominent american giving help to get coffee as nato and the rebel army were locked in battle with his regime on the
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floor of the intelligence chief office lay on the it dressing gadhafi son saif al islam inside i found what appears to be a summary of a conversation between u.s. congressman dennis kucinich who publicly opposed u.s. policy on libya and an intermediary for the libyan leader's son and that report goes on but the allegation is that congress think the senate was helping qaddafi with this in your piece. well i think a copy of a report of because since his views on the conflict which were very critical of president obama for going in without congressional support into libya for acting in ways that were perceived as unconstitutional not just by the senate but by. republicans as well that doesn't constitute correct support for khadafy it can be spun that way i don't know that would exactly what happened but i haven't heard the signatures comments on it yet either so i would be very careful to jump to
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conclusions based on some document which was not really a it was about this in it's not by consent i want to keep this going for just one minute because then it's very his part he said that we have questions about the legitimacy of the war and the obvious this and what and what nato was doing were also you know very well known inconsistent with his official duty than any implication that he was doing anything other than trying to bring an end to an authorized war is fiction do you think that al-jazeera that angle on that deal it did in my this is opposition to the war well this was a report by a reporter who found this information the report of it that i saw which wasn't the actual report was that they were kind of still looking into it i mean it didn't seem as if they had a definitive view on it i don't think they were blaming dennett's because sin it but going to somebody finds a document you know and it's puzzled by it or is attempting to link it to something else that may or may not exist there were many people who try to advice get tough
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including the south africans you know to negotiate not to take the hard line that he took there were many people who felt he was being counterproductive and i was actually encouraging this conflict through to get even worse so there were people who might have talked to him now with the goal of supporting him but with the goal of trying to bring this war to a close. it would do you think though that with al-jazeera the owners being the american power of cutter and that that then to framing the story of course then it's that way i don't you know the reason i don't is say you know i've been to qatar again to doha. headquarters i've spoken to people there about that i mean maybe they were telling me a story but they say no they have it it's oriel autonomy and their whole credibility rests on it their critics would say however they're being manipulated by the government with it they are not you know you would expect some journalists
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here to make that claim a few did resign over the whole coverage of bahrain but not about libya to my knowledge so i would tend to trust the al-jazeera correspondents who in my opinion are ethical and hard working journalists but the question of whether the government uses influence is the same question raised about every you know country does russia tell russia today what to say does murdoch tell fox news what the saying i mean you know obviously owners to influence coverage that's clear but to the influence this particular story we don't know ok and do you think that what you're saying though does play out a role more broadly and the network's coverage of the arab spring in general you mentioned bahrain do you think in a situation of egypt for example. well you know the saudis for example in the goals and carter and the u.a.e.
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have all attempts to downplay what's happening in bahrain i think there are legitimate fears that something similar could happen their own country they're not democratic countries they're run by royal families the they're often repressive the freedom of speech is not you know fully exist in those countries you know but it's a balancing act i think and i think before you you know assume that because the country doesn't want change therefore it's manipulating the media i think you have to prove that i don't think you can just assert it when do you think that there is anywhere to get objective information on any of the events we've seen unfold in the arab here i can't you know entries you know i think that you have to understand that the information the real information is often in blogs it's often in social media it's often in local media and local as opposed to international media you know in other words if you really are following the story
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closely you have to read a number of different media accounts and add to that come to some conclusion about what the facts really are i don't think you can rely on any one media outlet yeah i think that's kind of a good let method and we thank you for dates that being the news for us danny that if you will maker and blogger news says that there dot org any sector it's nice to see you and. possibly manipulating revolutions to lawyers and activists pushing porn we'll have more on that it five you are not going to want to miss that story but that does occur now from all the stories we cover our team dot com slash usa check out our youtube page it's youtube dot com slash r t america you can follow me on twitter at lauren lester and i will see you back here for more news and more info on library player and at five. i don't.
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