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good. we're going back to the future and what was once true in the eighty's sadly rings true today so as foreign competition shutters us production is it possible to ever hear the chinese made in china made in america once again. the images the world is seeing out of syria a country seemingly on the brink of revolution but in a country where foreign correspondents are few and far between is there some serious manipulation coming from the mainstream media will hear from our reporter
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inside the country. i'm not really sure. what being gay mean i do believe that people have the right to do whatever they want loon even the right to watch porn in a public library it's a hard questions during a passionate debate we'll take you to the big apple where debbie does the library legally. good evening it's friday september second eight pm in washington d.c. i'm lauren lyster and you're watching our t.v. well how little freddie and slip there are at the top of the show but you'll see why when i get to this story you see new jobs numbers came out today for august and it showed that for the first time since one thousand nine hundred forty five the u.s. has created zero jobs now the unemployment rate remains unchanged still nine
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point one percent and guess what as obama gets ready to roll out a new jobs plan next week i want you to brace for what the president predicts average unemployed. that will be next year in two thousand and twelve the prediction i'm going with nine percent you heard me right is same number that unemployment has been hovering around for about the last two years so to picture out why this may be why don't we look back at how some of the administration's plans for job creation have worked out for one obama placed a big emphasis on clean energy he said it was to put the u.s. in the running with green energy competitors here was the justification around the world from china to germany our competitors are waging a historic effort to lead in developing new energy technologies their factories like this being built in china batteries like this being built in germany nobody is playing for second place these countries recognize that the nation that leads the
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clean energy economy is likely to lead the global economy and if we fail to recognize that same imperative we risk polling behind so for one loans were given through the administration's stimulus program and the solar companies cylinder bought when they got a half a billion dollars to make solar panels they also got a visit from obama to show how this was working and we can see the positive impacts right here of slim less than a year ago we were standing on what was an empty lot but through the recovery act this company received a loan to expand its operations this new factory is the result of those nuns. and fifteen months later what is the result of those loans first cylindrica well the company is filing for bankruptcy it's laying off eleven hundred workers it's going
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bankrupt it can't compete like can't compete it says that there is too much pressure from lower cost chinese rivals and they're not alone this is not one off this follows two other u.s. solar manufacturers who have filed for bankruptcy in recent weeks two why did they say well part of it has to do with increased competition from chinese rivals so the u.s. obviously as having trouble competing what to do well to help me answer that earlier i spoke with labor journalist mike out and just start off i asked him about trade specifically ok maybe it's taboo maybe people aren't willing to talk about trade policy in changing after the u.s. has pushed for free trade all these years but the u.s. continues to lose manufacturing jobs continues to lose entire industries overseas to countries like china so would changing trade policy and in acting tariffs be a solution here's what he had to say. well it's not
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a question of tariffs tariffs is only one part of the equation china has a comprehensive industrial policy so we give a lot of subsidies to companies to start these new business just not one shot like you have a stimulus but a lot of subsidies and on top of that there's other issues on which is chinese currency manipulation in it and is china's unfair environmental practices so tariffs would help the u.s. has to do enough on its side to really promote industries well it's interesting because that's what some of the reason that these companies cited that they couldn't compete with china is because of the billions of dollars in cheap loans that they could get from state banks so what are you saying the united states should do to be more competitive we really have to prime the pump and that means putting a lot of money into these kind of companies and making sure for instance that we don't buy any products from overseas the government that is i mean every other government in the world is pretty strict about the fact that they don't buy products from outside the country but the u.s.
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we buy products made overseas all the time for instance our secretary of labor hilda solis is klar was not mean the united states secretary who so you have these types of things happening we have to have a very strict procurement policy you have to have a certain degree of tariffs and have a certain degree of incentives to really help these industries get off the ground so you would you would advocate for imposing terror but it's just not that rational everywhere we migrate and yet we didn't pass a climate change bill so we have no real incentives for companies to switch over to solar power or do these kind of things whereas in china they're moving at light speed they see the future all the companies they're switching over you know as opposed to here we're kind of moving at this breakneck speed and we're debating building a pipeline to bring in more oil from canada right so why do you think that this is not largest us by politicians or heard on the mainstream media more prevalently well part of it is a boring story it's the story that's been happening for thirty years which is that
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it's just jobs going to china. but on top of that i mean there's a lot of financial interest you know general electric when you have general electric as the chair of the president's jobs commission and general africa's close thirty two factories united states obama's taking office. the president is going to speak over these course to that you have president obama pushing a free trade treaty was south korea was an obama pushing free tree treaty with colombia despite the fact that if you want trade unions because of climate in russia you well and you have american consumers on board too i want to look back first though to to talk about that at a campaign back in eighty eight the early ninety's will take a look at that. never trust you with what you will not have. made a right one and what did you know i was going to cost of a job i'm going to cover it up next. year we have in america to make a program for everyone screw job security through the quantity of our products
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because you were referring to just to refresh really sure chip we're going to hurt our infrastructure it's hurting us why americans and americans were. so you mentioned this is an old story and you go back and you see in the eighty's there were these campaigns to tell that story but now fast forward and i feel like you have an american populace that is pretty used to and enjoy their cheap goods no matter what it is so how do you convince americans that that one hundred dollar patio furniture they got that was made in china they should really pay fifteen hundred dollars for it to have it made america but it's not necessarily always cheaper to have it overseas but there's a lot of situations where consumers clearly don't have a choice not a single cell phone in the united states of america so you can say oh well consumers want she's good but it's also that you know there's not that many choices listen i mean we have the least amount of americans employed manufacturing making
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forty one i mean it's pretty incredible we have now we're down during that are unemployed been working there and that says something about the health of our economy so that there's not a lot of choices and i think if people made more money if they had a good manufacturing jobs they'd be willing to do a bit more well enough an interesting catch twenty two so say that you know the price of goods does go up if more manufactured in america were labor costs are higher but then people can't afford them and this is an economy that's driven by consumer spending to the tune of like two thirds of the economy at a time when people already can't afford good anyway consumer confidence is that a two year low. i mean i mean it's better than the real irony is that. is more that america's job who oversees the force chopper because they can't afford it so to blame it on consumers is i don't know if there's some situations where they might be able to but that's not actually you know one percent of the problem so if you had to to say one thing would really fix that would be would it be an overhaul of
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of trade policy i think it's developing the type of industrial policy that every other country has in china has a very industrial you know very rigorous trade process they have tariffs francis tariff germany has chairs i mean look at germany like germany workers make thirty six dollars an hour when you bring income american auto workers make thirty six dollars an hour german auto workers make forty eight dollars an hour germany has a trade surplus right now with china because they have a smart industrial policy so if you had to give one reason why that hasn't happened in the us what that was the biggest roadblock is to that what would it be i think the biggest roadblock is sort of this fear that we have government getting involved in planning economy that you know this is communism this is all these other things so i think that's the biggest roadblock and also i think the big multinational corporations wall street everybody that's pumping us have broken our political system and i was labor journalist like that now earlier i spoke with stephen dunning about the same subject but he's coming from
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a slightly different perspective we spoke about were there corporations and there were all he is a former program director of knowledge management at the world bank he's also author of the leader's guide to radical management reinventing the workplace for the twenty first century he also wrote a very popular article in forbes on this subject of manufacturing going overseas so with him i took clean energy as the example because of those three solar plants we've seen go bankrupt and i asked why the u.s. can't get their manufacturing back and compete with china here's what he said. once it's gone it's hard to get it back and the whole sectors of the economy have just gone and so the expertise isn't here anymore so when amazon wanted to build a kindle they cannot i had no choice but to go to asia there was no expertise in this country to make it happen so the pieces come from china from taiwan and from korea simply isn't possible so you have the whole sectors which have gone you have
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sexes which are at risk and the few sectors which are still here so that picture is one of the reasons why i think we're not looking at just a cyclical phenomenon but a phase transition well and this is something that you have written about and you wrote it in a very popular forbes article that's gotten more than two hundred fifty thousand page views so it obviously really resonated with people why do you think it resonated so much i think. the sort was true. from their own experience i mean they really did something that nobody is really talking about from that perspective and they also saw that i understood why it was happening that the example that i gave a day out. which was making computers and one of their suppliers came to them and said look we're making this little circuit board with doing pretty well why don't we take over the motherboard because that's not your core expertise and if you handed over to us that you'd be able to let go of all
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those people and would make it you'll make a lot more money and so on it's better off and they did that and they normally and their profits went up and then the company came back and said well why don't we do that with the whole computer that we do that with assembling the computer why don't we do that with a supply chain in successive steps those profits were going up and up but the final time they came back it was not to talk today was to talk the press part to talk to the other retailers and say look we have a computer which is better than dell's and twenty percent cheaper there are bigger one companies can. hold rays of company do the same thing you have whole industries basically disappearing and so it sounds like you're saying these solar companies that's just part of a much larger trend that speaks to where manufacturing has gone over the last decade but do you really attribute that to as far as the reasons why it all started to get reversed the underlying forces that these companies have been pursuing short
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term profits they've been seeing that is the goal of the company to make money for their shareholders and when you have that as a goal it makes sense to destroy a company and you start doing things that don't make sense for the long term so there's a whole movement underway to that into organizations differently and the focus not on making money for the shareholders but on paralyzing customers true continuous innovation. when you would got that goal it doesn't make sense to ship expertise overseas because you're going to need that in future political customers but our people pretty much tot that is the business model in business school and that is the model of business that is then instituted and believed in at every level from policy to corporations to management consultants to c.e.o.'s. now i'm letting you know you read business books tend to business school classes and
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listen to pretty much every c.e.o. when you carefully what they say the bottom line is making profits for the shareholders for the most firms and so this is written about the rug from our wonderful article the age of customer capitalism that we are in fact passing from. where organizations focus on making money for shareholders to a new age where they focus totally. delighting the customer so organizations like apple like i was i will excel force do that and you find when you do that you actually make more money but if you're focused on making money. it will have to see if that trend continues and expands that was steven deming author and former program director of knowledge management at the world bank ok from corporations to the corporate media and their coverage of something different let's talk about war or not war but unrest we're going to go to syria so there the government is accused
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of more vicious and deadly assaults on its cities but the thing is most foreign correspondents there are either under take control or access has been limited so it's hard to get balanced reports and objective commentary so what is the reality well r.t. has a correspondent who's been in the country covering this for some time or she's one of the few reporting from the troubled country so she sets the record straight on some of those mainstream media reports we've been hearing. mass murder tearing catastrophe a country on the brink of a revolution this is what you see every time syria pops up in the headlines but what is really happening in a country where hardly any foreign journalists are present there's even been the implication that some of the images we're being shown have been digitally manipulated and there have been reports about available online that you can watch of the footage that was taken in bahrain and said to be taken you know and it's
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showing the same footage and different stations and different backgrounds the police driving so there are some very strange things that are going on right now an example of such manipulation is the case of palestinian refugees in the coastal city of latakia stadium in mottaki became the center of a controversy when according to various reports anywhere from several hundred to several thousand people were gathered here most of those people were palestinian refugees who came from the palestinian refugee camp in the sunni quarter of latakia now according to the opposition forces and to some of the palestinians got to the stadium their i.d.'s were taken away their cell phones were also taken away and they're really prepared for the worst because you have to realize that herding large numbers of people into stadiums carries them would over very macabre macabre association especially in this particular region saddam hussein has developed sort of a practice of hurting people and the syrians and i don't and meeting mass executions we went to the part of the city which supposedly came under fire and water planes
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and me you ships installed for the refugees to find out how. some people walking around the neighborhood yelling there will be shelling from sea soon and everyone has to get out i didn't go anywhere just stayed in my house i can see the bay from my window and there was nothing in their side from the usual patrol boats still gunfire did break out between the army and unknown gunmen so some five thousand palestinians left their homes hearing for their lives. we wanted to leave so that our kids wouldn't hear the gunshots we hid in our house and when there was a break in the fighting we went to the stadium we stayed there for three days then came back. and so did two thousand refugees only to realize there was no air and navy attack taking place on the streets. we felt like we were lying to the heart of the. syrian authorities have long been insisting ruled armed groups are behind the
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unrest in syria and it's them who starts shooting first street should it come to god showed those statements are all but ignored by the media about syria is functioning media war and its news in it were about the syrian government might have realized its mistake of banishing for injuring the country media law has returned but there is no guarantee it will go a long ways towards changing series image conspiratory a major networks in those fourteen years. so go compare that to what you've seen on the mainstream media but before you do listen to this earlier i spoke with a man who has some experience reading between the media alliance he is filmmaker and blogger and news director dot org danny schechter and in the course of our conversation i asked about media bias specifically with al-jazeera and their coverage of libya a recent report took aim at congressman dennis kucinich that they ran they titled
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it at least online secret files u.s. officials aided gadhafi and in a report al-jazeera alleges they could senate she's been a vocal critic of the u.s. intervention in libya well they allege that he was actively aiding gadhafi and his regime they cited a document that they found in a libyan officials office so my question to danny is was this a smear piece well here's what he said. i think a copy of a report of because synergise views on the conflict which were very critical of president obama for going in without congressional support into libya for acting in ways that were perceived as unconstitutional not just play because senate. republican says well that doesn't constitute direct support for khadafy it can be spun that way i don't know that would be what happened but i haven't heard. his
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comments on it yet either so i would be very careful to jump to conclusions based on some document which was not really it was about his signature not bikers image i want to keep this going for just one minute is that it spread apart he said that we had questions about the legitimacy of the war and the obvious this and why then what it was doing were also you know very well known and consistent with his official duty than any implication that he was doing anything other than trying to bring an end to an authorized the war if do you think that al-jazeera the angle on that deal it did in my there's an opposition to the war. this was a report by a reporter who found this information the report of it that i saw which wasn't the actual report was that they were kind of still looking into it i mean it didn't seem as if they had a definitive view on it i don't think they were blaming gannets because sin it but going to somebody finds a document you know and it's puzzled by it or is attempting to link it to something
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else that may or may not exist there were many people who try to advise clued in the south africans you know to negotiate not to take the hard line that he took there were many people who felt he was being counterproductive and now was actually encouraging this conflict to get even worse so there were people who might have talked to him now with the goal of supporting him but with the goal of trying to bring this war to a close. do you think though that with al-jazeera being the america tar of carter and that that event to framing the story of course then it's that way. i don't you know the reason i don't is you know i've been to qatar again to doha i've been to al-jazeera headquarters i've spoken to people there about that i mean maybe they were telling me a story but they say no they have editorial autonomy and their whole credibility rests on it their critics would say however they're being manipulated by the
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government or they are not you know you would expect some journalists there to make that claim a few did resign over the whole coverage of bahrain but not about libya to my knowledge so i came to trust the al-jazeera correspondents who in my opinion are ethical and hard working journalists but the question of whether the government uses influence is the same question raised about every country does russia tell russia today what to say does. fox news what to say i mean you know obviously owners to influence coverage that's clear but the influence this particular story we don't know ok and do you think that what you're saying though does play a role more broadly and the network's coverage of the arab spring in general you mentioned bahrain do you think anything situation in egypt for example. well you know the saudis for example in the gulf and carter and they you we have all
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attempted to downplay what's happening in bahrain i think there have legitimate fears that something similar could happen in their own country they're not democratic countries they are run by royal families the they're often repressive they have freedom of speech is not you know fully existed in those countries you know but it's a balancing act i think and i think before you you know assume that because the country doesn't want change therefore it's manipulating the media i think you have to prove that i don't think you can just asserted fair point made by filmmaker and law great news defector dot org. now from the media questioning revolutions to a lawyer is an activist pushing or an you heard me right and you'll never guess where. a library a place of serenity and peaceful contemplation but if only these walls could talk.
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must have been filling the silence rooms browsing porn online in public libraries is legal in the us. i'm not really sure what to think i mean i do believe that people have the right to do whatever they want but at the same time the library also has the right to do or not to do whatever they want to go by why not provide a little bit service they want. and some of these services are causing a public outcry look really across america internet policies of libraries lead to for one thing libraries do is put a ban on for reducing probably this is protected by the first amendment of the constitution only federally funded libraries must use filters to block adult content such as child porn or obscenity to protect children from seeing it apart from that anything else goes all adults who have library cards have the option to remove internet filters to view anything they want but if what they're seeing is
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disturbing to another library patron the library staff will ask them to remove it from the screen would you want something like. that if that's not the point who creations are plenty just in the big apple there are two hundred public libraries that would a push of the right button where the imagination of its patrons run wild and while for some the inconvenience is our technical library speeds are so slow if you are in the library computer like they have like the world so as collection i think it would take like an hour and a half to watch a five minute particle to others it's the public aspect that's bothersome they want users to take the phone home i don't watch porn. in the pool that's my policy but i think if you're going to allow this to happen then you go to the program sir. i don't want to walk by somebody's watching for. some
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city officials and concerned citizens want to peruse all brands it's close and filthy public places where there's kids and. people go through. the regular day to day activities just the right. the fact that a library is a public place is keeping some operate night not watching a lot of movies but horrified you can make sort of the same argument about aster vacation everyone does it but you don't necessarily want to watch other people doing it and when it comes to pornography that's generally sort of its purpose civil rights advocates attorneys and free thinkers see constitutional rights can't be touched if i'm in the library and i'm using a computer and the person next to me is reading a website that politically is the complete opposite of what i believe maybe i find that offensive let's ban everything. at a rally against library by default somehow quaters insists that pornography can have an educational purpose internet sites and website should not be banned from
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public libraries because they do hope and the understanding they buy out it's the human body optimist paul has for his opinion from personal experience i as an adult i have visited some of these sites and know they have no educational value we're all in the library is the center of education only educational websites should be permitted in an educational institution and especially with other types of institutions a bottomless pit considering all the shows we have around times square and other places in the city if you truly wanted to actually ask adult material. you have i reached a hundred of these different available shops in the city while the blushing kind may start staying away from libraries if the rules don't change one lovers can be
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put in the corner but no one can keep them out for now. r.t. you your. and tunings our team next week for a brand new line if you won't want to miss first nine eleven profiteering as we come up on a decade since the destruction of the twin towers survivors are becoming victims of the not so charitable intentions for nine eleven first responders not getting the medical attention they need to politicians playing dirty looks like there's plenty to gain for america's misery ten years later what have we learned and after that we have change you will have him on the show he will tell us about life after m s n b c after leaving the mainstream media behind and we not all we have more stories coming up of the people by the people for the people the people with money that is us congress just might be up for sale to the highest bidder well that interview with a man who's running a presidential campaign against the.

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