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it's. past the hour time now to talk to you and i mean you stories of this hour russia's laying into the e.u. for taking a unilateral approach against syrian foreign minister lavrov says that he used plans for a new oil in bahia will destroy any part like approach to solving the arab countries crisis. we're bringing you live pictures from tel aviv with hundreds of thousands of israelis a gallery for what's thought to be the biggest ever anti-government rally now these are the pictures there from the city of the latest in a summer of protests against the high cost of living and a ray of economic problems. and gas pressures up in ukraine with another winter of
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discontent moving up to here failed to successfully negotiate with russia over its previously agreed fuel bill. to bring it up to date for the moment i'll be back with another summer in fifteen minutes from now in the meantime a special report on how the u.s. antiwar movement to the nine hundred sixty s. altered the course of the country's history. oh two or vietnam you know when you meant a black soldier you know he had a gap you had a special handshake you believe and you got to the point where you could even chill what part of the country he was from because everybody had their distinctive the gap or handshake people definitely could tell the people within your company because everybody knew everybody had to do what they needed to do you know the problem oh my god i'm glad to see him i don't i don't know we're going to spec back . this. week you know we got to come. by.
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the strap is ready to swear that first test that high and i go down this way like a sony i was going to do you know like a great come down you know around right. there you go. back and i can recall how especially bass was big a big big big big big thing going to jail for the power would it have said this is really what we think we believe that they were going to jail for toward just the thought. long and jail because it just agi them and won't be able to was pretty much just like jails in america playing them said black there was a lot of bouncing in this prison a lot of stuff the only people who were angry he was pretty dire situation. of being mates got together and we decided that we were going to escape from this place. what happened was is that the result of this alone being. the date and
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we're not of the. cost of. it if they break down the jail and he was just made a lot of people get killed. and sometimes so. i was going to survive the man would ask how did you come to the decision and what he said. you know when you and your back that you can't move for day in and day out you have a lot of time and think. and i think about what you did you know that you. think that you're going to move people that you young. people. i mean there's always an. image you can get. i think that you see them on. your clothes what i saw what was going on in the states due to ryan down the streets. and we're in the same
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county uniform and i got to remember. they go oh when we were here people that we're going to the same camp you guys were in the same robin agreement of arms around me here and you're breaking up on. black people and dogs are running to where cakes are on the street. in the summer of one thousand nine hundred eighty eight army and national guard troops were sent into american cities as thousands of black people rioted following the assassination of martin luther king. that spring troops were used against and from war demonstrators at the pentagon. then in august soldiers at fort hood were told they would be sent to chicago where antiwar
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demonstrations are planned for the democratic party's national convention. we just come back from fighting the vietnamese now they want us to fight the americans. the night before the troops and supposed to leave there was a meeting of black g.i.'s they gathered up in a parking lot in the first armored division section and they were out there all night in a parking lot talking you know an area like a rap session or rally why they were opposed to going to chicago we're making it clear that it was a general south thing going to go on and how can i go and commit genocide on my people shoot my people and one hundred black g.s. at the straight feel brothers came up and really start a corner no need about you know discrimination and unfair treatment and that getting a rake in needed and about what was happening with the war as the meeting stretched into the night fort hood's commanding general showed up to talk to the g.i.'s and say i'm just a two star general let me go and talk to my boss and i have an answer for you in
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the morning so you know we just relax you know which sleep i was cracking said that he cracked me and said here. you know you know what they have going oh in pieces all around it's me and you know where you could obtain m p's are you know they came at us would i get. it right you would have been. and in the area renowned he opened his formation and crew for him peace come in and grip a brother and take him back in the back and beat the shit i. hear screaming in the back rooms. and they were court martialed brought up on various court martial charges but it scared the hell out of military then they went to around and went through the roster of all the units who are supposed to go and took off today considered to be quote subversive so
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a number of people myself included would not send. one of the most infamous and the nine hundred sixty cargo police brutally attacked demonstrators in front of the democratic convention although the army and senate contingent of right control troops to chicago from fort hood they kept them on the street. was no longer certain which side the g.i. . the military had a problem on and it was about to go from bad to worse. we were in. the practice line i believe it was a long line of a sudden we see this commotion kind of started to being in the line and then start come up towards us and we could see people like one guy would turn to the guy behind them and they had to be this excited conversation and that i would turn to the guy behind him and finally big guy in front of me got the news and he turns around and he says to me they're killing women and children in vietnam i said who
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is killing women and children to be a con he said no we are. march sixteenth one nine hundred sixty eight the soldiers of charlie company eleventh brigade america the vision and to the village of me life twenty four hours later over five hundred villagers men women and children lay dead brutally and wantonly murdered in cold blood around the world to me live massacre would become the touchstone fact of the vietnam war. for over a year the american military covered up the me like massacre claiming only enemy soldiers were killed and when the truth was finally brought to light by journalists the highest ranking officer blamed and prosecuted was william calley a lieutenant. in a cramped detroit hotel a new organization vietnam veterans against the war held an unprecedented
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investigation that exposed a much deeper truth i think that when it's over investigation was to try to point out it wasn't really in defense of cali but it was going after the notion that the policies of the u.s. military created things like me lie ok but it was a policy it was both a written and an unwritten policy and the truth has to be told you can't walk away from the truth you can't lie and put up a smokescreen and say oh this is a the words they used back then an isolated instance of average behavior you were just coming home saying i'm against the war you're saying this is what we did this is how we did it this was a crime this was wrong help people to really cross the bridge and to see us in a way that i think the anti-war movement had not seen g.i.'s before america went through. went through a choke ok because they didn't want to believe that these things occurred in the name of the american people supposedly is supporting freedom and liberation and
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democracy throughout the world and the resister of the slaughter is turtle and ayn slaughter so i think the question was why they go after cali were cali was doing precisely what we were all told to do and we were in vietnam essentially ok which is children law and sorted out later. inclined recently i had a friend who was it was in a vice with norman group and one time he asked me would i like to accompany you into a village and i was milieu with see how they act so i went with them and. they didn't find any enemy but they found a woman with bandages so she was questioned. about she was questioned by six so i mean from the way the big questions are within she had bandages. they shot her she was in about twenty times that she was questioned. and of course. this guy came over who was you knowing him he was a former major he was in the service for twenty years nic you got hungry again and came back over working with usa id aid international development and.
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he went over there and rip her clothes off and i've been. cut from a bridge on all the way up well just about up to her breast in order organ doubt completely out of a cavity and threw him out and then he stopped and not over and commenced to peel every bit it's going off her body and left her there as a sign for something or other and i went and listened to three days of testimony and i absolutely came away from an emotionally drained and floored by i never grasped even up to that point how powerful was the genocidal plans and strategy of the us towards the vietnamese people on every level . you know whether was agent orange and the dow chemical and we can figure it in napalm because the napalm wasn't sticking to the the me scheme and us. but that was
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you know all of this just added to the overwhelming sense of the criminality. this was armed forces day and in many cities across the country there were the usual parades displays and bands with the recent surge of protest over the war in indochina cast a shadow over today's activities this was even some military bases where the presence of anti-war demonstrators led to the cancellation of planned observances four thousand g.i.'s marched the first year but also the base and they told people limits and they told people that if you want to get arrested. or putting up plywood coverings on their windows because the cops told it was going to turn into a riot but then people decided to change it far far as is because you know we thought making fun of your enemy was. the second year nine hundred seventy one.
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three four. where every conceivable room to keep our army that no remains in vietnam is in a state approaching collapse with individual units avoiding or having refused combat murdering their officers and noncommissioned officers. and dispirited were not be amused. by the pentagon's own figures during the ten years of the vietnam war five hundred thousand soldiers to serve. in the face of the term and the president eighteen war movement and the military here. collapse the
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nixon administration announced the policy of vietnamization and effort to shift the burden of combat to the south vietnamese army while american chad spun part of north vietnam from the sky. nixon promised that american ground troops would no longer be involved in offensive compound. this is richard boyle firebase haste to climb everest from the cambodian border sitting in a bunker not a dozen trucks the first captures a lot of people kind of wondering if anybody back in the world knows you were out here you know like. two batteries or a tourist was to be in on groceries with nobody we don't even exist. we just need. troops we're not supposed to be in combat that's why the american army could night that they were there you know that far as america was before this i got the word american troops on the border. do you think the officer actually i'd say you don't
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think right now or you all like to go back on the north vietnamese were had they had two regiments to crack regiments stoli surrounding the fire base points nothing . less is we start going out there will be sitting ducks you know the best thing for you to think he's. going to try to hire a hired man in the water they just send us out the captain crowed in order to six men to go out on a night ambush what is basically a suicide mission and he sent six guys out against two regiments and they said we're going to do it we're going to go and the only option it was was to get word out of the outside world and they wrote a petition at the reading we are under siege and for base case we are faced daily with the decision of whether to take a court martial law courts dissipate not fancy brought in the event of mass prosecution. very unit our only hope would be.
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excellent order that company pulled out they sent in another company they heard about the refusal of alpha company the other company also refuse to fight and after that no company knows what effect if i could. do more problems to winding down the vietnam war than just holding the enemy at bay and moving south vietnamese troops into the line one unforeseen problem is trying to keep up the morale of g.i.'s who know they're going on the cops soon enough it has produced flagrant insubordination shooting of officers by their own men and a deadly actress called fragging and the dual purpose in my mind was he did to get me or intimidate in myself and all others in authority in the company in the time sergeant gene tenley is saying that some of his own men tried to maim
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or kill him but it's not an isolated incident since then one officer has been killed another wounded at this base and there have been dozens of similar incidents all across south vietnam because the fragmentation grenade is often the weapon used the violent attacks on authority have come to be known as fragging and many g.i.'s talk openly about fragging and the military countermeasures of say more than one big group meeting where. actually all they talk about is frag and as we call pigs. i picture talking about your senior enlisted men in your officers that's correct that's what most common terms. mean forced to rely almost solely on the air war by nine hundred seventy two the united states launched an unprecedented barrage on vietnam dropping more tonnage of farms on the tiny country that were used by all sides during world war two and with the assault coming mainly from america. sailors
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and airmen became the center of the g.i. movement on the u.s.s. coral sea twelve hundred signed a petition demanding the ship stay home and san diego california home of the carriers constellation and kitty hawk to spawn a movement led by a group of navy officers and enlisted men who truly believe what would stop that war was when the soldiers start fighting it still an active officer as were all these other guys and sailors and enlisted people as we sat around and brainstormed about what kind of a nonviolent action can we take that can actually touch sailors. around and restart the aircraft the biggest ship in san diego harbor it's the most aggressive our. it's hard for people to realize this but that ship is not a naval ship it's really hard airpower and we used to attack as it so it's
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a weapon of a boeing weapon aggression. the original concept cain well let's do something where we allow the people on board that ship to go to cast a ballot as to whether or not they think they should go back to be if not let's just hear their voice and then he said now this election should be held every shopping center in san diego county and every safeway store ought to have a little polling booth outside and we have to see how many ballots we can collect and we're going to point toward a day. they all make a case on a day when they all want a living. heck i was a carrier qualified aviator and i gave me a lot of credibility with people earned or not or and even though i hadn't been in combat. people would give you a certain amount. creedence of course because i knew all of that out military
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function. name yes and. no not if i got him to take. care. right round the question is why do you people that look so weird like they're. just look normal everybody else . there was this inside out we would call it where we would where we were collecting more and more of the sailors to get them involved to give them a fork and if they want to end the war nation. there was nobody from the captain of that ship to the mayor of the cities or did not hold a press conference about this project everybody was contacting us senators or
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commenting on it you know even if the city folks took for that ship to stay we're still going to blow things just because it's never the ship says well i know there's a lot of people on the ship who don't want to go over the military is full of malcontents because it listen. well to nine that the g.i. movement even existed the house internal security committee of the united states congress held a series of hearings in one thousand nine hundred ninety one that produced thousands of pages of testimony illustrating how broadly and deeply that movement had spread that same year the f.c.a. show tour days despite being banned from military bases worldwide. the show
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performed to japan okinawa and the philippines for over sixty thousand soldiers and every stop she took the stage with we can no longer remain silent about trustees and injustice being perpetrated by the united states military and peoples of other nations and all the petty harassment the servicemen and women i made to endure day after day we demand all this policy against her because there are a. lot of the many against her not just anti war g.i. because they do not agree with us with the. media and close rove all your ground troops in cia vietnam as well as in korea open i want to pan the philippines israel cambodia thailand germany england panama. i mean it seems unthinkable now that we could have done this and that you could
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have a hall full of guys. with their fists in the air sung happy . that we had come to acknowledge their reality. are you. and refuse to kid. you said no man will lose you and only. what he's hiding folders to be. i used to love to watch the faces of a child when she sang that it was like this shell attention would drop away and you would see the youth and the innocence and the vulnerability underneath and so to. stand strong close. what.
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is true. this is for. this newspaper the one nine hundred seventy one just five years after how it leave you and talk the talk and flomax of protest thousands of vietnam veterans against the war converged on washington d.c. and threw their medals onto the capitol steps. and if i am to take the stand. you know it's kind of a unique opportunity it's very it's very rare i think in anybody's life that you have an opportunity to really think that you are changing history that you're a part of history at first you couldn't voyageurs protest in a war. or minds we had a thousand years in nineteen so they thought they did know how to react to that because they thought here were a bunch of them they got out of there and are probably all just talking i'm only
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a martyr i will learn. so much joe just spent in day after day after day you know just people talking about you know what it's all about and how we're going to deal with the stuff and how we really get moved forward change the world better and we want to do for one change the world we're pretty sure this sucks you know we're pretty sure those deserve to be here and so that didn't leave much room but to change the world you know people so we keep going i'm going to cannot keep going back to vietnam because i tell you what the other side does they're always going back and they have to go back the hocks you know the patriarchs they have to go back because and they have to revise the going back because they can't allow us to know what the what the back there really was continue to think about this shit man. again they are. bad. guy extremely. schick. this government pushed me into this she
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asked. what's the what's the pride in saying you're a veteran if you're what you're a veteran something. i can't. seem to go to a veteran of the massacre it someplace or another you know. no one you know crime. and so don't talk about killing. those amazing i mean it is many many g.i.'s who were actually in vietnam actually there. and then spoke out against it and demonstrated pictures and pictures. in. their theory. that if there had been a hundred i would have been. there were thousands there's just.
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incredible. brave people. to. thank. for your. life. but no. way that you would. be like. that.
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