prices are laws but refusing to make any concessions maintains the cargo and complies with international requirements called the revised they're not sure they. could daffy to surrender to libya's interim government the national transitional council is now widely recognized as the country's legitimate power next to british m.p. barry you voted against western intervention gives his insight into the. today i'm talking to barry gardener who's a labor member of parliament and one of the very few m.p.'s to a very serious against the intervention in libya mr gardiner thanks for talking to r.t. today now we see that the rebels if we can still call them that have practically taken tripoli and that gaddafi looks like he's lost the fight have you changed your mind about the libyan intervention the point is the legitimacy of it and that's

what i created in the beginning and i think most people would agree that it was right to intervene on humanitarian grounds to save the people of benghazi that was never the su the issue was all whether nato should then become involved as effectively the strikeforce for the rebel corps and that's what it's been and that of course was in my view way beyond the brief that the united nations had given and it was wrong it was not the should have been about regime change a civil war in libya is something for them it's not something for the rest of the world to intervene how do you wish it could have been different then what would you have done if you'd been in charge i think what we should have seen is we should have seen an intervention by the forces that went in to stop that attack on benghazi to neutralize gadhafi and to make sure that he did not conduct any aggressive sorties as he had previously been doing but not that they should then

become the air on the straight forward for the rebels david cameron said a few days ago that nato would lend support in libya for as long as civilians need protecting what was your reaction to that is that open ended commitment as it sounds. it was very clear in the original un resolution it was very clear when our prime minister spoke in parliament here that there would be no. occupation force that would be totally wrong one of the things that troubled me all was this ambivalence as to whether there should be troops on the ground and of course that wasn't expressly prohibited by the resolution but but it was something that i think all of us were very concerned about. what we saw as the rebels were going into tripoli the other day certainly on the radio programs that were broadcast in the u.k.

we would go left go left go left these instructions being yelled out by what were obviously british soldiers british personnel who were leading that advance group now that i think is where we've overstepped the line there's also now talk of pursing peacekeeping forces on the ground in libya i see that something you oppose but you know decimated country with no structures for maintaining order now is that not the only way i don't believe it is i don't believe it's right that we should be staying there. to establish the new regime that's that's not what this was originally about it was about humanitarian protection now let me be clear i am very pleased to see the back of gadhafi who is a very evil dictator the sooner he is in front of the international criminal court the better. and i'm very glad that his days are now at an end i wish

for the new regime well but i think it's important that they establish their regime they prove to the international community that they have the capacity not to tear themselves into different factions and to libya as a strong and unified government but that's their responsibility you supported the invasion of iraq back in two thousand and. three why is this so different it's very different. the invasion of iraq was because. saddam hussein had refused to reveal as he was obliged to under the chapter seven of the united nations resolution whether or not he had got rid of all of the nuclear chemical and. biological weapons that we knew he had previously about he refused to do that even as late as february hans blix was saying we do not know whether he still

has these he listed a whole load of v.x. nerve gas mustard gas different agents chemical agents so we didn't know and he was not willing to allow. other countries to come to interview the scientists to see the audit trails to know whether he got rid of them or not in that situation it would have been ludicrous to have had a million strong army that was on the doorstep of iraq simply go away when the resolution fourteen forty one had given iran given him a final opportunity to comply with his obligations how the world done that then what would have happened if he would have simply rebuilt those programs with impunity knowing that he was absolutely untouchable and the world would not do anything against him we would have then been precipitated into a far more major conflict into the in the middle east between iran and iraq with devastating consequences destruction of the world's oil supplies it was

a terrible situation and it was right that we took the action that we did not the fact that the united nations didn't sanction it in terms of a second resolution does not change the fact that fourteen forty one said it was the final opportunity for him to comply now i'm a parent i have children i know that if i tell my children please come and do the washing up and they don't do it and i say look i've told. once already please come up if you have twelve years of that which is what we had with saddam hussein and you then come to the point where you say this is your final chance and he still does not comply then it's important that you take the ultimate sanction after that what about what happened afterwards there in both iraq and afghanistan the real violence began after the dictatorships were toppled do you see that happening in libya i think there is a danger of this and what you saw was certainly in iraq was

a complete failure of the occupying powers then to stabilize the situation and they let the the iraqi army keep their weapons but they disbanded the army and they said you must go back to your villages but you can keep your weapons this was insanity absolutely insanity and we must not be in a position of what we've done is created greater instability in libya that is absolutely clear. but nonetheless we equally must avoid is becoming an occupation force i think afghanistan is a very good example russia has a very bitter experience of afghanistan as does britain of being an occupying power and you start off being a friend of someone and you end up being hated by everyone an occupying force is a very dangerous place to be and you should get out as quickly as you can what's the middle way that some would argue that nato stepping in has made this situation

worse is it not their nature his responsibility to stay and clear up the matter you pose the question that really is how do you get to where you want to to be and of course the answer is well i wouldn't have started from here but you're right we're now in this situation and therefore what we have to do is to ensure that we provide support for stability without our cells being that stabilizing. military force it must not be that the new government relies on the military of britain and nato in order to maintain power they must be able to do that on their own we can give advice we can give help to help them stabilize the situation but we must not assume responsibility ourselves governments insists that lessons were learned from what happened in iraq given the way that this conflict been conducted do you believe that it's always a danger for every government in my view and every army to be

fighting the last war. what you do is you learn lessons from one conflict which you then take on to the next but usually what you forget is that the context of the situation is different the next time and therefore the lessons that you've learned from the previous experience may not be appropriate in the conflict that you are now fighting you mentioned the factions inside the national transitional council we now know that some of those factions are religious groups who hope to establish an islamic state in libya what will the attitude to that be do you think. nato and from the libyans themselves will they get a voice in this new democracy it's not for nato or nobody else to allow it it's for the people of libya to decide what they want to do it's for them to decide their own future. in this country and. all

across the world people have had to learn to live. with the fact that we have different religious views different ethical views nonetheless we have to live together we have to spine some means of sharing a society sharing the country and making it work for all of us i believe the people of libya are no less capable of doing that than the people of them. the people of the united kingdom do you think that ultimately nato is intervention will cause more trouble in the middle east a region that after already deeply unstable no i think the most serious i think it will if it if nato stays there as an occupation force but i don't think that is going to happen i think the really troubling conflicts in the middle east at the moment are within syria i think if you look at bahrain and the way in which saudi arabia went into bahrain to prop up the oligarchy there against the wishes of the

people these are the flashpoints in the middle east that still have not and that is going to happen. once people have scented revolution once they have seen that freedom and a better life is possible i don't think they will go back under the yoke of the talker see barry god and thank you very much. ninety sixty six because it's the same you say other things i was doing in this reason we were given for doing it was a personal protest. during the vietnam war and the antiwar movement emerged that altered the course of history this movement didn't take place on college campuses but in their ships penetrated elite military colleges like west point and it spread

throughout the battlefields of vietnam. today few people know about the g.i. move against the war in vietnam. ask the army we always said free the army or fun travel and adventure but it really meant.

raster is rallying u.n. security council members for them on the end of the violence in syria and prevent the uprising descending into the libyan sonali these investigations remain behind the bloodshed and how much time. in the weeds all the top stories may be and levels

of poised to cross the last all kinds of resistance from colonel gadhafi supporters with time running out the noise to lay down all the bottles thousands of pfizer's and broken it seems likely concerns grow that libya is turning into a troll neighborhood. israelis to stage their biggest ever government produce. when living standards maybe three hundred thousand nationwide to get the government to spend more on social programs instead of settlements under the tree. ukraine's to. previously agreed price is all cause for refusing to make any concession to the current contract compliance with international climate. stay with us on the way next with a. thank

you ellis welcome to. the headlines this hour. to make a victory in the. final event championships. in the u.s. open to. the fourth round. and . the rugby world cup all the time. fly to new zealand. and let's begin with. russia claimed two goals on the closing day of the world championships in south korea in the surprising the odds by beating champion caster semenya in the women's eight hundred meters the russian clock one

minute fifty five point eighty seven seconds semana had to settle for a second behind and janet to get school khania to braun's. the women's hamel throwing off the mocking seventy seven. centimeters edging closer straddles. germany more than a meets a chinese very soon zhang completed the podium with seventy five point zero three metres. and you make a claim to file building the championships in style setting the only world record over to them and in the women's pool by one hundred meters relay you seen baltar leading the cool tents to a thirty seven point zero four second victory finishing way ahead of second place bronze and st kitts and nevis who came and said. now the russian rugby team fly to new zealand late on sunday had of their first ever world cup match a clash against the united states all the fifteenth of september which is all powerful

god with the school ahead of his biggest a moment to date. the wait is almost over for thirty players who are flying to new zealand who have spent the last three months training intensively and gaining vital much experience however of a senior team if the place is club rugby in england he's delighted for russia can finally start to do better talking on the rugby pitch it's been hanging over us the you know if the idea of the world cup that's just coming close by a day last month or so it's a really was it is just a bit of a relief when it's finally come however before they leave they spoke to the media about their hopes and expectations ahead of what will be the greatest moment so far in baseball watching careers russia one of the tournaments minnows but of an all times and he just glad to have made it couldn't even dream of it when i was younger yeah planes are russia and even play for us at the world cup stage so now here are

the last three years it has been a dream and i have travelled literally have a day where that's the way to get that russia still have a long way to go until they can even think of being able to compete on a level playing field with the likes of new zealand and australia however the president of a russian rugby union has before and his country finally made it to be finals will help boost the profile of the sport here suit his first time ever we want to fight for the rugby world cup it is a great achievement for us in the team for russian right here because never before we think it's such an opportunity to play with their world's most famous and strongest teams of course occur going to tease you toward play with them or force them to maybe in some of these teams but any case for the players for developing professional rugby it's a great experience russia play their first match of the tournament on september

fifteenth against the united states of america. given they are in a group of italy. strayer and oil and it's game would be americans russian coaching staff would be targeting it's b. look to become the first day beaton's to ever win a match and be a first we can't mean long form legend fitzpatrick is delighted to see russia have made it to world com and he says the whole of new zealand is buzzing ahead of the tournament which keeps song from crying even one percent to. ninety seven the last time we had it there and i know what's changed to new zealand something. as a nation. as four million people talk about a stadium of four million people and looking forward to welcoming the rugby world despite a disappointing tour of united kingdom recently where the russians lost games against english club sides the morale of the russian can be spying and even if they lose a few games in new zealand the most important thing is that they become the first

players to represent their country the biggest sporting event in the world which frankly you don't see school. on to the this open tennis now where for russians i made it through to the last sixteen in the women's singles twenty year old and as the sample which is one of them off to eliminating former world best in the young age simply unable to adjust to the russians aggressive style of play going down sake school or sixth just as you want to match the public chunk of rugby talent to see the channel she burst in advancing to the stage you get when it's in is the only russian left in the men's draw meanwhile often he fell victim to no big joke which is a joke of showing just why he is the bookies favorite at flushing meadows the marching into round four six three six four six two when alexander to build up all of our next for the search for a third grand slam title of the season is the first first first i think this tournament and it was it was expected i was aware of his qualities you know. he's

a great player you know he's been around for many years you know. you know as a rangers. he went out there and played his game very aggressive so i think i was to start and that's why i was missing a lot of balls or inside but but you know when i needed to adjust i think you know crucial breaks. and roger federer is rolling along as well although it's proving a bit harder the swiss making before stage after winning in four cents against modern challenge six three four six six four six two while monaco is next both on monday. and finally the most high profile professional athletes usually have a skillful agent to thank for their exposure and big money deals the ice hockey agent association vice president. has been shedding some light on his profession it was a gorski reports. huge contracts global brand indorsements and thousands of screaming

fans the ice hockey all stars of the world really do have it all but despite being phenomenally talented individuals they would have a hard time making such an impact on the biggest stage without someone pulling the strings behind the scenes do not use shock or never expected to become a sports agent but now you've become one of russia's trailblazers in the business he met just such mega stars as you have getting moloch in sergei going char so there's also jamie i became an agent by accident i lost my job in one thousand nine hundred ninety and was struggling to make ends meet a friend of mine called me one day and said he called word from the new york rangers that's a sports agency is pursuing me i didn't jump the gun and let those guys pursue my service he's eventually the company's representatives met with me and i took up the job. shut off is well aware of the trials and tribulations it's crimes i mean self that a twenty three year playing career in called spartak moscow after that. so i've got

some colleagues who never played and they think a hockey background is not necessary to do their job i tend to disagree as one must be able to evaluate and i feel this current level of performance and his potential that's what ultimately determines a player's price and while managing malkin gone charge and other big names would be the top and shut off resumes no agent would want to miss a transcendent up and coming talent little blossom was hard to push and i was present there's a stark i would say i represent between forty to fifty players in total including those born in one thousand nine hundred four and one thousand nine hundred five i tried to keep in touch with all my clients and go to their matches if possible obviously there's a conflict of interest frequently because i can't tell you all my players games i'm just saying that's how you have. the competitive big money business can bring out the worst in so me. so i'm going to spies to steal the diamond in the rough that

others. shuck off says he experienced those she'd do is first hand believes a lack of sporting knowledge is driving his colleagues to under and to fish yes against. one agent a place employee told me he would take spears from me once his current crop of stars retired this practice is widespread in russia while the united states for instance has a code of conduct which limits such as if an athlete is already read assented by one inch and no other agents can recruit him with it however it was shock of claims he knows a few american agents who find ways to cheat players out of their hard earned money so i made the case here so this is just the workers which i've never heard of unions taking money from players in russia but it's happened in the states i know the two hundred kostitsyn was a victim of such a scam and they also tried to trick alexander ovechkin and alexander. since parents are the ones who often choose their child's ages for the future that is if you should make inquiries about it every age and. the players themselves go are much

tighter need to help each other out when the ball gets tough molecule among those benefiting from the smooth n.h.l. transition by teaming up with corn shock posing a lot of approaches malkin has an easier time adjusting because going charm was already on the team max talbot's and sidney crosby were also our clients playing in pittsburgh at the time and now he moved into sergei's high use and stayed there for three and a half years so gone char was like a big brother to you gave me for a while he paid the bills helped him set up a bank account among other things result with the senior favorite athlete on the list of the richest people in their school or the cover of a new magazine or endorsing a product is the result of a good agency work but those men like also clearly have the ability to become greeted by zus to their clients while allowing the players to blossom in their respective. bonds gorski r.t. . most course coming up until our next stop.

great. soldier. russia is rallying u.n. security council members to an end to the syria it's to prevent the five month descending into an instant. the libyan rebels are poised to

crush the kids if there's no good japanese support says time are running out for the loyalists and may down all. but as thousands of trouble with the clear agenda braved the streets of tripoli concerned that it's going to be turning into a tried time bomb mold from the libyan capital tripoli. and then we are told stories israelis organized the country's biggest. rally demanding more money spent on living standards settlements on minute trade. and ukraine. with russia threatening court action against moscow apply says the kremlin's defending the previously at least try.