eight hundred sixty fourth birthday. the clock is ticking for. libya's interim government the national transitional council is now widely recognized as the country's legitimate power. berry who voted against western intervention gives his insight into the conflict. today i'm talking to barry gardener who's a labor member of parliament and one of the very few m.p.'s to a very to against the intervention in libya mr gardiner thanks for talking to r.t. today now we see that the rebels if we can still call them that have practically taken tripoli and that gaddafi looks like he's lost the fight have you changed your mind about the libyan intervention the point is the legitimacy of it and that's what i created in the beginning and i think most people would agree that it was

right to intervene on humanitarian grounds to save the people of benghazi that was never the issue the issue was all whether nato should then become involved as effectively the strikeforce for the rebel corps and that's what it's been and that of course was in my view way beyond the brief that the united nations had given and it was wrong it was not this should have been about regime change a civil war in libya is something for them it's not something for the rest of the world to intervene how do you wish it could have been different then what would you have done if you'd been in charge i think what we should have seen is we should have seen an intervention by the forces that went in to stop that attack on benghazi to neutralize gadhafi and to make sure that he then did not conduct any aggressive sorties as he had previously been doing but not that they should then become the air on the straight forward for the rebels david cameron said

a few days ago that nato would lend support in libya for as long as civilians need protecting what was your reaction to that is that open ended commitment as it sounds. it was very clear in the original un resolution it was very clear when our prime minister spoke in parliament here that there would be no. occupation force that would be totally wrong one of the things that troubled me all was this big balloons as to whether there should be troops on the ground and of course that wasn't expressly prohibited by the resolution but but it was something that i think all of us were very concerned about. what we saw as the rebels were going into tripoli the other day certainly on the radio programs that were broadcast in the u.k.

we would go left go left go left these instructions being yelled out by what were obviously british soldiers british personnel who were leading that advance group now that i think is where we've overstepped the line there's also now talk of putting peacekeeping forces on the ground in libya i seen that something you but you know decimated country with no structures for maintaining order now is that not the only way i don't believe it is i don't believe it's right that we should be staying there. to establish the new regime that's not what this was originally about it was about humanitarian protection let me be clear i'm very pleased to see the back of gadhafi who is a very evil dictator the sooner he is in front of the international criminal court the better. and i'm very glad that his days are now at an end i

wish the new regime well but i think it's important that they establish their regime they prove to the international community that they have the capacity not to tear themselves into different factions and to libya as a strong unified government but that's their responsibility you supported the invasion of iraq back in two thousand and. three why is this so different it's very different to the invasion of iraq was because. saddam hussein had refused to reveal as he was obliged to under the chapter seven of the united nations resolution whether or not he had got rid of all of the nuclear chemical and biological weapons that we knew he had previously. he refused to do that even as late as february hans blix was saying we do not know whether he still

has these he listed a whole load of v.x. nerve gas mustard gas different agents chemical agents so we didn't know and he was not willing to allow. other countries to come to interview the scientists to see the order trails to know whether he got rid of them or not in that situation it would have been ludicrous to have had a million strong army that was on the doorstep of iraq simply go away when the resolution fourteen forty one had given iran given him a final opportunity to comply with his obligations how the world done that then what would have happened if he would have simply rebuilt those programs with impunity knowing that he was absolutely untouchable and the world would not do anything against him we would have then been precipitated into a far more major conflict into the in the middle east between iran and iraq with devastating consequences destruction of the world's oil supplies it was

a terrible situation and it was right that we took the action that we did now and the fact that the united nations didn't sanction it in terms of a second resolution does not change the fact that fourteen forty one said it was the final opportunity for him to comply now i'm a parent i have children i know that if i tell my children please come and do the washing up and they don't do it and i say look i've told. once already please come up if you have twelve years of that which is what we had with saddam hussein and you then come to the point where you say this is your final chance and he still does not comply then it's important that you take the ultimate sanction after that what about what happened afterwards there in both iraq and afghanistan the real violence began after the dictatorships were toppled do you see that happening in libya i think there is a danger of this and what you saw certainly in iraq was

a complete failure of the occupying powers then to stabilize the situation and they let the the iraqi army keep their weapons but they disbanded the army and they said you must go back to your villages but you can keep your weapons this was insanity absolutely insanity and we must not be in a position where what we've done is created greater instability in libya that is absolutely clear. but nonetheless we equally must avoid is becoming an occupation force i think afghanistan is a very good example russia has very bitter experience of afghanistan as does britain of being an occupying power and you start off being a friend of someone and you end up being hated by everyone an occupying force is a very dangerous place to be and you should get out as quickly as you can what's the middle way that some would argue that nato stepping in has made this situation

worse is it not their nature his responsibility to stay and clear up the mess you pose the question that really is how do you get to where you want to to be and of course the answer is well i wouldn't have started from here but you're right we're now in this situation and therefore what we have to do is to ensure that we provide support for stability without our cells being that stabilizing. military force it must not be that the new government relies on the military of britain and nato in order to maintain power they must be able to do that on their own we can give advice we can give help to help them stabilize the situation but we must not assume responsibility ourselves governments insist that lessons were learned from what happened in iraq but given the way that this conflict been conducted do you believe that it's always a danger for every government in my view and every army to be

fighting the last war. what you do is you learn lessons from one conflict which you then take on to the next but usually what you forget is that the context of the situation is different the next time and therefore the lessons that you've learned from the previous experience may not be appropriate in the conflict that you are now fighting you mentioned the factions inside the national transitional council we now know that some of those factions are religious groups who hope to establish an islamic state in libya what will the attitude to that be do you think from nato and from the libyans themselves will they get a voice in this new democracy it's not for nato or for the else to allow but it's for the people of libya to decide what they want to do it's for them to decide their own future. in this country and.

all across the world people have had to learn to live. with the fact that we have different religious views different ethical views nonetheless we have to live together we have to spine some means of sharing a society sharing the country and making it work for all of us i believe the people of libya are no less capable of doing that than the people of them. the people of the united kingdom do you think that ultimately nato is intervention will cause more trouble in the middle east a region that is after all already deeply unstable so i think the most serious i think it will it if nato stays there as an occupation force but i don't think that is going to happen i think the really troubling conflicts in the middle east at the moment are within syria i think if you look at bahrain and the way in which saudi arabia went into bahrain to prop up the oligarchy there against the wishes of the people these are the flashpoints in the middle east that still have not versed

asunder that is going to happen. once people have scented revolution once they have seen that freedom and a better life is possible i don't think they will go back under the yoke of the tucker see barry god thank you very much. mission. critical free. free. free free. free. free. free care. for your media project free video dog r.t. dot com.

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video. feeds. from. the un security council to help the violence suppression of anti-government protests in syria. new round of sanctions targeting the oil exports.

in libya rebel. strongholds. meanwhile time runs out for the pro-government. with opposition leaders saying negotiations have. stories of the week hundreds of thousands of israelis take to the streets across the country demanding the government. living standards rather than spending money on settlements and of the military the protests have been the largest anti-government rallies in the history of the jewish state. is a blaze of color with fireworks and a record breaking the laser show as it lead russian capital celebrates its peak hundred sixty fourth birthday and the military has been taking over red square wrapping up a five day tattoo with the russian and german foreign forces marching together. now let's see who's lighting up the sports world next with natasha.

hello welcome to sport here in r.t.l. top stories first icing on the cake russia add two girls to their medal tally on the final day of the world athletics championships with wins in the hammer throwing and women's eight hundred meters. meanwhile you saying bald leads jamaica to a world record breaking victory in before by one hundred meters relieved finally by the jackal championships. and also russia to compete in the rugby world cup for the first ever time this year r.t. caught up with the school before they flew to new zealand. and that's begin with a flat tax where the world finals concluded on sunday with russia claiming two more girls on the closing day but he has been the most surprising the odds by beating a world champion caster semenya in the women's eight hundred meters the russian coffee one minute fifty five point eight seven seconds samantha had to settle for.

second behind and katie and janet says goodbye to bronze. i have an incredible feeling inside me i can't find any words to express them i'm not tired though my result was fantastic i have three more competitions this season but i won the most important one the world championships. and earn it that you can always stay on top the podium in the women's hamel throwing off the marking seven to seven metres and thirteen centimeters edging betsy hard love germany by more than meets a chinese event sushant completed the podium. and jamaica claimed the final gold of the championships in style so it's the only world record of the tournaments in the men's four one hundred meters relay your same ball in the cool sense of a thirty seven point zero four second victory finishing where head of second placed bronze and saying thanks and live in sleep. with regard

to. let's. go. back to the british. in football russia have to beat islands in the euro two thousand and twelve qualifying game to guarantee themselves the top spot in group b. dick advocaat schooled held an open training session on sunday two days before the all important match statistics are on russia's side. in the first meeting away from home the upcoming moscow clashes it must win game for the visitors as a defeat could deny their qualifying hopes the hosts are fully fit but midfielder. sidelined through suspension russia also plays slovakia and door on the seventh and eleventh oct respect. now russian rugby players are looking forward to their first

ever world cup match a clash against the united states on the fifteenth of september richard von poole flick caught up with the school before they headed to new zealand. the wait is almost over with thirty players who are flying to new zealand who have spent the last three months training intensively and gaining vital much experience however of a senior team if the place is club rugby in england he's delighted but russia can finally start to do better talking on the rugby pitch it's been hanging over us the you know if the idea of the world cup that's just coming close by a day last month or so. it's a really was it's just a bit of a relief when it's finally come however before they leave they spoke to the media about their hopes and expectations ahead of what will be the greatest moment so far in baseball in korea's russia one of the tournaments minnows but for the north times and he just glad to have made it couldn't even dream of it when i was younger

yeah playing the russian even playing for us at the world cup stage so now here are the last two years it has been a dream and i have travelled and literally have a headache for the l.a. to russia still have a long way to go until they can even think of being able to compete on a level playing field with the likes of new zealand and australia however the president of a russian rugby union has before his country finally made it to the finals will help boost the profile of the sport you see it is first time ever we want to fight for the rugby world cup it is a great achievement for us from the team for rushmore it was never before with just such an opportunity to play with the. most famous and strongest teams of political they're not easy to play with or for sure maybe in some of these teams my technique is for the players for developing call for national rugby to great

experience russia play their first match of the tournament on september fifteenth against the united states of america. given they are in a group of italy australia and the island it's the game would be american the russian coaching staff will be targeting as a look to become the first dead beaton's to ever win the mansion their first will. mean more formal black legend shaun fitzpatrick is delighted to see russia have made it to the world camp and he says the whole of new zealand is buzzing ahead of the tournament which kicks off from friday the ninth september. was not here the seven last time we had of their. science the new zealand sun sand as a nation. as four million people would talk about a stadium of four million people and looking forward to welcoming the rugby world despite a disappointing tour of united kingdom recently where the russians last four games against english clubs sides of the russian can behind and even if they lose all

four games in new zealand the most important thing is that they've become the first players to represent their country and the third biggest sporting event in the world which. moscow. moto g.p. now and jorge lorenzo has won the san marino grand prix to staying in tashan fall they say has title case is still in a however retains the overall a despite finishing third lower and so on his blue yamaha pass the pills it and seasonally down the first time and held on to win ahead of compact with danny could join the big stone and into third place you can result track so we want to finish for spain in the chilean spaniards were also winners in the rest of the countries on the day in the run so the stone is a constant thirteen point five races still to go in twenty eleven next stop is that fair of course. and finally the most high profile professional athletes usually have a skilful agent to thank for their exposure and big money deals the icehockey agent association vice president gore has been shedding some light on his profession if i

explain. huge contracts global brand indorsements and thousands of screaming fans the ice hockey all stars of the world really do have it all but despite being phenomenally talented individuals they would have a hard time making such an impact on the biggest stage without someone pulling the strings behind the scenes you know the ocean of course never expected to become a sports agent but now he's become one of russia's trailblazers in the business he manages such mega stars as you have gainey moloch in sergei gonchar are. jamie i became an agent by accident i lost my job in one thousand nine hundred nine and was struggling to make ends meet a friend of mine called me one day and said he got word from the new york rangers that a sports agency is pursuing me i didn't jump the gun and let those guys pursue my service he's eventually the company's representatives met with me and i took up the job. we shut off as well aware of the trials and tribulations his clients these

daily he himself had a twenty three year playing career in cold spartak moscow after that. i've got some colleagues who never played and they think a hockey background is not necessary to do their job i tend to disagree as one must be able to evaluate an athlete's current level of performance and his potential that's what ultimately determines a player's price and while managing moloch in gone char and other big names would be the top entries on resume no agent would want to miss a transcendent up and coming talent ready to blossom into a star bush and i was as it was that i would say i represent between forty to fifty players in total including those born in one thousand nine hundred four and one thousand nine hundred five i tried to keep in touch with all my clients and go to their matches if possible obviously there's a conflict of interest frequently because i can't attend all my players games at the same time. the competitive big money business can bring out the worst in some

agents. with some going as far as to steal the diamond in the rough that others have found we shut off says he experienced those shady dealings first hand and believes a lack of sporting knowledge is driving his colleagues through underhanded tactics . one agent blatantly told me he would take players from me once his current crop of stars retire this practice is widespread in russia while the united states for instance has a code of conduct which limits such action if an athlete is already represented by one inch and no other agent can recruit him. however it was shock of claims he knows a few american agents who find ways to cheat players out of their hard earned money and i mean if you see as this is i've never heard of agents taking money from players in russia but it's happened in the states before i knew that andre kostitsyn was a victim of such a scam and they also tried to trick i'll examine a bitch can and i'll examine their i do love since parents are the ones who often

choose their child's agents for the future he should make inquiries about it every agent of the players themselves though are much tighter knit group and help each other out when the going gets tough molecule along those benefiting from the smooth n.h.l. transition by teaming up with going char. malkin has an easier time adjusting because going charm was already on the team max talbot's and sidney crosby were also our clients playing in pittsburgh at the time marquis moved into sergei's how use and stayed there for three and a half years so gone char was like a big brother to you've been there for a while he paid the bills helped him set up a bank account among other things. seeing your favorite athlete on the list of the richest people in their sport the cover of a new magazine or endorsing a product is the result of a good agent's work but those men like coffee also clearly have the ability to become great advisors to their clients while allowing the players to blossom in

their respective leaves. yvonne's gorski r.t. that was the latest this fall stay with us for the main news at the top of the hour . commission free accreditation free transport charges free. range monceau free is free. to tide free. download free broadcast plug in video for your media projects and a freebie deodato r.t. dot com you.

russia urges the u.n. security council to help the violent suppression of anti-government protests in syria. in libya rebels that surround one of gadhafi last remaining strongholds east of tripoli with reports of one of the colonel's sons being killed in the area. and

other top stories this week hundreds of thousands of israelis take to the streets across the country demanding the government improve living standards rather than spending money on settlements and the military. moscow's a blaze of color with fireworks and record breaking laser show as the russian capital celebrates its eight hundred sixty fourth birthday. with today's top news stories and recapping the events that shaped our past week this is r t certainly glad to have you with us the u.n. most powerful body should demand an end to the violence in syria and move all parties into a dialogue that's russia's view by the foreign minister during a meeting with his brazilian counterpart on sunday.