you are joined by rosemary hall is the professor of middle east policy studies at city university in london rosemary thanks for speaking to r.t. so how well has the international community handled the libyan crisis will you make a distinction between the nato members some of whom are extremely proud of what's been achieved so far in libya and the broader international community who are adjusting to developments in libya and deciding to be on the side of the future though not every government around the world has yet recognized and accepted the national transitional council as the government so did they do the right thing to begin with i think the u.n. responded to an emergency the arab league made a plea for some sort of intervention to save the citizens of benghazi from massacre but only over the last several months have we all realized the extent to which

britain and france in particular nato in general basically entered the war determined that the anti gadhafi side when there seems to be an assumption that the new government of libya will be automatically pro western the old contracts will just be renewed but is that really going to be the case do you think i'm not so sure that. the new libyan government will be pro-west there are three or four signals so far that they're very firmly nationalist for example they said they're not extraditing any libyan including abdel baset i'm a guy he who was convicted of the lockerbie bombing and the americans wanted. he's now close to death and living in tripoli and the national transitional council says that's where he stays the other signals are that they're talking about yes it would be nice to have u.n.

help. caring for elections but no we don't want international observers there drawing the line where they think it should be drawn between what's their business and what international help is useful for it is a good thing to think i think it's essential for the survival of the next new libyan government that they be seem to be more libyan than a tool of the west to the west realize that you think it how dangerous is this kind of scramble for influence it's a good question how do western players realize that they are a kind of liability i think only with difficulty they realize this they assume that they've got the best interests of not only themselves but libyans to heart and can be an amicable mutually beneficial understanding reached but yeah they talk about democracy in a way that suggests they can only see the western version the british government certainly has been very keen to stress that this will not be another iraq and that

they've learned those lessons but do you think that's really the case have they really learned those lessons it seems that every political generation every generation of politicians thinks that they can achieve things that the previous one didn't until they try. they won't say any different so cameron and tacos he took a massive gamble that they could pull something off in libya that would contrast with the disaster that was the intervention in iraq and you know have president sarkozy talking as though this is a template for future interventions. maybe but the cost in resources in manpower in struggle that is to come i mean there will have to be massive support in humanitarian terms in the near term there will be more fighting it is taking casualties and there's a lot of rebuilding to do and reconciliation between the. factions and

therefore it's not over and done with in terms of commitment of western manpower time energy and resources how much potential is there for this to turn into another iraq is it on the right course now of course it's a cliche to say it but you know the comparisons can only be taken so far with iraq libya is a very different place and some calculations had to do with the fact that it seemed simpler to intervene in libya it was a smaller population spread out mostly along the coast with long exposed roads in between the main towns and cities that presented targets that nato aerial intervention looked capable of exploiting to good effect on the ground . how to say. what we hear about. various people from the m i six type sector but certainly special forces s.a.'s and so on

operating on the ground. this is very much. a kind of proxy war which must be extremely exciting and exhilarating at some level to be involved in so it's more likely it seems to me that in that sense the appetite for further interventions will exist as opposed to this is the template for. the triumph of humanitarianism over. warfare what about the national transitional council they've promised that within eighteen months they'll have a new constitution and elections is that possible well the lesson from. the other revolutions in the region and in egypt is that there is good reasons to delay elections if you think you can organize sensible heroin and different

contra. competing political parties if you have more time so it rather depends were the people are going to vote as they did in iraq in the initial elections on name recognition or on sectarian loyalties in this case possibly in libya on tribal loyalties or rural urban divide. name recognition rather than choosing between different party platforms but an inclusive assembly to devise and choose and approve a constitution may not be such a bad thing the u.k. government is already sending ass's that they've run frozen but is that a little bit naive given what happened in iraq with a lot of money going missing i think it's essential if you've invested in the national transitional council you certainly have to hand over the money to them you can't then say but we don't trust you to spend it correctly because then you are

verging on doing what the americans did in iraq which you're saying we could do we can organize iraq better than the iraqis do you trust them to think you make a fool of doing it i think there's going to be retribution i think there's going to be continued conflict in neighborhoods in. out lying regions of the country i think it's going to take a long time for the libyans to find their way to a completely different path look at duffy invented was a very peculiar system it was supposed to be democracy for the masses with grassroots assemblies making the decisions it was nothing of the kind it was a dictatorship and those around the colonel operated out of fear as much as green trying to suck up to him lots of people were implicated where do you draw the line who was too bad to be forgiven who needs prosecuting and will it be. is justice or will it be the kind of

magnanimous justice is about inclusiveness and building together now the libyans need to work all of that out in the meantime they've got to pay salaries to get the basic tasks of life including policing and the court system operating if during that period they are challenge just sign contracts with international companies and have to make decisions which end up reinforcing the role of the state in the commercial sector in the economy and include inducements from those companies to secure the contracts against the competition then we're back into the danger zone that this will not be a wholly transparent and un corrupt regime. the jury's out western leaders have stressed to the rebels the need to avoid revenge attacks and

the need for tolerance yet they've also said that nato airstrikes will continue for as long as gadhafi is a threat is this mixed messages but i know from my experience of. conversations with arabs in different parts of the arab world over many years that they never take the statements of the west at face value they always assume there's a hidden agenda and they positively expect. double standards so on this particular occasion it suits the rebels as well as the nato powers to fudge the truth about who's on the side of right and who's doing all the killing and what the consequences are but will this lead to revenge attacks already within the rebels rounding up sub-saharan black africans accusing them of being mercenaries that is appalling and there will be questions for the future of the economy how much i tender and labor do they need. even the egyptians who were

working for the libyans before the revolution have had rough treatment and have gone home painted us people from east asia who've been in the same bind and you're seeing a version of racism and prejudice coming out against anybody who's black on suspicion that gadhafi recruited mercenaries from sub-saharan africa but. the truth is i'm mixture of things yes some mercenaries how witting how understanding they were of what they got involved in one doesn't know but that a lot of innocents are getting caught up in this absolutely but that is the nature of war and so despite what sarkozy and cameron and anybody else may wish to do to dress this up as a glorious rescue of the ordinary people against a vicious dictator in fact it's war and bad things happen in war

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the head of the arab league going to syria to demand an end to the government's violent crackdown on protesters there this after the e.u. announces new sanctions against the regime but critics say the ban on oil imports

serves the interests of european companies instead of those of the syrian people. spain prepares for a fresh wave of protests ahead of a crucial senate vote on capping its budget deficit a move many fear will lead to social cuts meanwhile european central bank calls for greater financial integration within the eurozone as the only solution to the problem. and pioneers of rallies against social injustice in israel some forty years ago joining recent protests on the same topic members of the black panthers movement say they're frustrated the problems in israel have only gotten worse. you know neil joins us now with all the latest from the world of sports and i understand that we could yet have an all russian final at the u.s. open though the overwhelming favorite remains a familiar name on the tennis circuit absolutely right we've got a russian federation on a russian up and comer on both sides of the draw so yes they could meet in the decider but it's arena williams who is

a big big favorite in new york not we're going to have a look at how she got to the quarter final plus the rest of the sport right now. good to have your company this is sports today plenty ahead including. irish test russia either win which would all but ensure dekalb accounts charges an automatic qualifying spot at next year's european football championships. court dates unless the c.f. public makes it into her only second ever grand slam quarter final meeting with serena williams now awaits in new york. and causing a splash in our chance to clinch the highest scoring competition history on the way to winning the final world series cliff diving event of the season. let's start

with football where a crowd of seventy thousand fans are set to watch russia the republic of ireland go for broke in moscow tonight a victory for the home side would go a large way to ensuring russia qualify for their third straight european championships a few notable absentees from dick advocaat squad though first choice goalkeeper. and faith misses the clash after picking up an injury in a recent club game side central midfielder rock he's also i three suspension but a plethora of big names are on board including former chelsea minute call fun arsenal is on the radar shaaban russia currently set two points ahead of ardent slovakia it doesn't matter who's playing for ireland even when they bring to under twenty one thousand. one hundred percent always difficult to play against but we have to. try to do what we did there as well. and the word should

hopefully we can do you know game as well. meanwhile the irish are coming off a draw against slovakia at the weekend visitors anticipating a tough encounter at the luzhniki stadium where defeat could bring their qualifying hopes to an end speaking on monday captain robbie keane talked about the two sides meeting in dublin last year a three two win for the russians. do not see really well lately as the manager says destroy you know we have to concede too many goals so. we've learned lessons from the game against russia and you know in order to be taken then we entered into tomorrow's game so. i think move fully aware of the expected of what the russian is going to bring to the table elsewhere in the group b. slovakia could move to joint top of the table when they host armenia and chile know their minions themselves though having given up on the play off route. this year while macedonia host pointless. r t also caught up with arlene dangerman aiden

mcgeady we asked the winger if he was looking forward to adding an international cup and russia on the same pitch with a former celtic man no plies his trade with spartak moscow of course especially always make his where one can so i gave about why even before. of course with the group. the way that it took her we were. very very good team if you know international stalls and you know every once in a force game for staff to talk with weapons off the park so. we should have a. course in what foreplay. brings us to tennis where the quarter finals of this year's u.s. open will feature a perv russians. but not all of them though after being offset by world number one carline wozniacki alice to see a publishing meanwhile will face a string a williams test in the quarters the odds are not in the russian's favor going into her last match slash sixteen kloster francesca she is only the. last to be italian

in the treatise three meetings on the twenty year old also losing the opening set here seven five before rallying back with aplomb five seven six three six for the final score so. now the so russian ladies with a chance to take the title of russian madame's. publishing co was next hurdle to williams looking in top form on able to stay in the game against the huge overall favorites losing six three six for the twenty nine year old beats public in their career meeting. novak djokovic on yankel tip sort of a child made grand slam history by setting up a clash with one another it's the first time in the open air at the two serbs will face off in the quarterfinals of a major djokovic briefly caught off guard in the opening set of his last sixteen in country against the on orthodox style of alexander to pull off that were level one regrouped however. sealing from the second set on end seven six six four six games

to suit how it ended up the twenty four year old holds a two zero lead over upcoming film to sort of h. and head to head. joel for its own good meanwhile halted surging local fun favorite mardy fish for an epic five setter the twenty six season mannish the early on by saving the brick. but fish took the next two sets before a frantic rally by the frenchman come tsonga grinding it out to itself six four six seven three six six four six two win. russia finish top of their group of the european basketball championships in lithuania the two thousand and seven champion winning five from five in the preliminary stage the latest success while it was a one point win over previously on venus lavinia on monday david plotz men snatching the sixty five sixty four victory courtesy of a surrogate the a shot off the bows are both squalls who are through to the second groups. to

atlantic city go where the russian national team have arrived back home from their most successful ever world championships those same competitors are already looking forward to the future with the continent to the twenty thirteen world finals in moscow on the way. to a plenty of other luggage coming back from asia having played nine gold for silver six bronze medals the asshole good enough to earn second place behind the united states who finished with a dozen goals it's. finally the cliff diving season has ended with the red bull world series finale in ukraine riches are. wrapping up his campaign in style notching up his soul stage victory of the year with the highest total score ever in the sport's history.

seek out of this world's feelings that's why the sport's most prestigious competition the red blue world series keeps traveling all across the planet to discover new locations to hose their breath taking events for the final stage of the season thirteen high flyers made their way to the swallows nest castle one of ukraine's main places of interest on the crimean sure of the black sea. and the following pair englishman gary hunt who entered the event as the newly crowned champion for stage wins in a row seeing the briton retain his world title two weeks ago in boston and the men who sit second in the overall standings russia still prevail over or don't see who is looking to claim their first event when harry han chinese or is. he really shines with the more typical dives. oh yeah

you have somebody like our tim you know how beautiful diver it was put to the lead up to the first three rounds of the competition flawless execution putting the native ahead of front and then to the finals the top six now left to do battle in the shadow of the castle brewing brita hunt once again and wishing he's facing the pack the so-called triple quad although. who stole the show at sunday's event demonstrating one of the hardest dives the sport has ever seen. him stand with blunt entry the russian entering the water with his head held high the outcome clear before the judges had even showed their scores at first till. placed podium finish of the season but the twenty seven year old and fourth of his career however it turned out to be more than just

a win suit claiming the high still didn't score the competition has ever seen fit to achieve the most but it's not my first win but it's definitely the most precious one for me i'm second in the overall standings but here i've proved to be the best it's a very happy moment for me i've been here before you all to is an incredible place this time i had my family a lot of my friends and my trainers came over to support me so i was a little nervous at first but out there on the platform i left it all behind and just concentrated on my dives while i was. preparing for my dive so it was kind of strange knowing that the pressure of the series was not everyone else is fighting for places and i was just taken as an individual competition i'm just perfectly today he's got tens on throughout his dives that's as good as it gets is scored the highest score ever gary has never scored so not even his big

dives and he's diving good so often didn't win big time and it didn't matter if gary was diving good or not out of to win after winning the first two stages this year nine time world champion or longer did get was forced to leave the conclusion due to injury but he's now recovered meaning the twenty twelve season is gearing up to be one of the most thrilling on the record. the world cleat diving series twenty eleven i've just come to know and with all the best athletes of the sport having taken their owners but the point is that each of those who take part in this and this will rise in competition can be safely called an outstanding sportsman robert's mother known arty ukraine. they make it look easy don't they that's all the sport for this era weather is next and modest here with the news at the top of the hour.

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the mission. couldn't take three days for charges three arrangement three. three stooges freeze. three broken clothing videos for your media projects a free media. if the horrific critics also one of the puts in a bowl of cereal lloyd's. under fire as it emerges its latest round of sanctions against syria's regime won't come into force for another two months. spain gearing

up for a fresh wave of protests as it said it needs to discuss capping the budget deficit ahead of wednesday's crucial vote a move many fear will lead to huge social cuts. in the path of discontent pioneers of israel's rallies against social injustice forty years ago join the recent protests on the same topic but say the problems have only gotten worse. also as ukraine attempts to renegotiate gas prices with russia moscow stultz of building in d c stream pipeline which will eventually bypass transit countries more on that in twenty minutes time so. a lot of it i am in moscow good to have you with us here on our team our top story the head of the arab.