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what's happening in libya or interview coming up. i'm joined by rosemary hall is the professor of middle east policy studies at city university in london rosemary thanks for speaking to r.t. so how well has the international community handled the libyan crisis will you make a distinction between the nato members some of whom are extremely proud of what's been achieved so far in libya and the broader international community who are adjusting to developments in libya and deciding to be on the side of the future though not every government around the world has yet recognized and accepted the national transitional council as the government so did they do the right thing to begin with i think the u.n. responded to an emergency the arab league made a plea for some sort of intervention to save the citizens of benghazi from massacre
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. but only over the last several months have we all realized the extent to which britain and france in particular nato in general basically entered the war determined to get off the side when there seems to be an assumption that the new government of libya will be automatically pro western the old contracts will just be renewed but is that really going to be the case do you think i'm not so sure that. if the new libyan government will be pro-west there are three or four signals so far that they're very firmly nationalist for example they said they're not extraditing any libyan including abdel baset arm of god he who was convicted of the lockerbie bombing and the americans wanted. he's now close to death and living in tripoli and the national transitional council says that's where he stays the other signals are that they're talking about yes it would be nice to have u.n.
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help preparing for elections but no we don't want international observers there drawing the line where they think it should be drawn between what's their business and what international help is useful for this is a good thing to think i think it's essential for the survival of the next new libyan government that they be seem to be more libyan than a tool of the west to the west realize that you think it how dangerous is this kind of scramble for influence it's a good question how do western players realize that they are a kind of liability i think only with difficulty they realize this they assume that they've got the best interests of not only themselves but libyans to heart and can be an amicable mutually beneficial understanding reached what yeah they talk about democracy in a way that suggests they can only see the western version the british government
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certainly has been very keen to stress that this will not be another iraq and that they've learned those lessons but do you think that's really the case have they really learned those lessons it seems that every political generation every generation of politicians thinks that they can achieve things that the previous one didn't until they try. they won't say any different so cameron and tacos he took a massive gamble that they could pull something off in libya that would. contrast with the disaster that was the intervention in iraq and you know how of president sarkozy talking as though this is a template for future interventions. may be but the cost in resources in manpower in struggle that is to come i mean there will have to be massive support in humanitarian terms in the near term there will be more fighting it is taking casualties and there's
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a lot of rebuilding to do and reconciliation between the factions and therefore it's not over and done with in terms of commitment of western manpower time energy and resources how much potential is there for this to turn into another iraq is it on the right course now of course it's a cliche to say it but you know the comparisons can only be taken so far with iraq libya is a very different place and some calculations had to do with the fact that it seemed simpler to intervene in libya it was a smaller population spread out mostly along the coast with long exposed roads in between the main towns and cities that presented targets that nato aerial intervention looked capable of exploiting to good effect on the ground . how to say. what we hear about. various people
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from the m i six type sector but certainly special forces s.a.'s and so on operating on the ground. this is very much. a kind of proxy war which must be extremely exciting and exhilarating at some level to be involved in so it's more likely it seems to me that in that sense the appetite for further interventions will exist as opposed to this is the template for. the triumph of humanitarianism over. warfare what about the national transitional council they've promised that within eighteen months they'll have a new constitution and elections is that possible well the lesson for all. the other revolutions in the region and egypt is that there's good reasons to delay elections if you think you can organize
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a sensible coherent and different contrast with competing political parties if you have more time so it rather depends were the people are going to vote as they did in iraq in the initial elections on name recognition or on sectarian loyalties in this case possibly in libya on tribal loyalties all rural urban divide. name recognition rather than choosing between different party platforms but an inclusive assembly to devise and choose and approve a constitution may not be such a bad thing the u.k. government is already sending at is that they've done for a reason but is that a little bit naive given what happened in iraq with a lot of money going missing i think it's essential if you've invested in the national transitional council you certainly have to hand over the money to them you can't then say but we don't trust you to spend it correctly because then you are
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verging on doing what the americans did in iraq which you're saying we could do we can organize iraq better than the iraqis do you trust them to think do you make a fool of doing it i think there's going to be. retribution i think there's going to be continued conflict in neighborhoods in. out lying regions of the country i think it's going to take a long time for the libyans to find their way to a completely different path you know what gadhafi invented was a very peculiar system it was supposed to be democracy for the masses with grassroots assemblies making the decisions it was nothing of the kind it was a dictatorship and those around the colonel operated out of fear as much as green trying to suck up to him lots of people were implicated where do you draw the line who was too bad to be forgiven who needs
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prosecuting and will it be victor's justice or will it be the kind of magnanimous justice that is about inclusiveness and building together now the libyans need to work all of that out in the meantime they've got to pay salaries to get the basic tasks of life including policing and the court system operating if during that period they are challenge to sign contracts with international companies and have to make decisions which end up reinforcing the role of the state in the commercial sector in the economy and include inducements from those companies to secure the contracts against the competition then we're back into the danger zone that this will not be a wholly transparent and one corrupt regime. the jury's out
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western leaders have stressed to the rebels the need to avoid revenge attacks and the need for tolerance yet they've also said that nato airstrikes will continue for as long as gadhafi is a threat messages well i know from my experience of. conversations with arabs in different parts of the arab world over many years that they never take the statements of the west at face value they always assume there's a hidden agenda and they positively expect. double standards so on this particular occasion it suits the rebels as well as the nato powers to fudge the truth about who's on the side of right and who's doing all the killing and what the consequences are but will this lead to revenge attacks already within the rebels rounding up sub-saharan black africans accusing them of being mercenaries that is appalling and there will be questions for the future of the
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economy how much i tender and labor do they need even the egyptians who were working for the libyans before the revolution have had rough treatment and have gone home painted us people from east asia who've been in the same bind and you're seeing a version of racism and prejudice coming out against anybody who's black on suspicion that gadhafi recruited mercenaries from sub-saharan africa but. the truth is i'm mixture of things yes some mercenaries how witting how understanding they were of what they got involved in one doesn't know but that a lot of innocents are getting caught up in this absolutely but that is the nature of war and so despite what sarkozy and cameron and anybody else may wish to do to dress this up as a glorious rescue of the ordinary people against a vicious dictator in fact it's war and bad things happen in war
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thank you.
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the worldwide manhunt for him lasted for fifteen year. one million new mobile or it wasn't promised for his camp. political miss murphy or the west. for man as a. general of the serbian army. modish . hard. on archie.
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in the czech republic he's available in the hutto and some of the central hotel provisions most of those stories i used to him a taste in bosnia and herzegovina available in. the children of each. of you know who to put you know. to make hotels you're good enough. to look times. in serbia he's available in the hyatt regency. leader of the arab league heads to syria to demand an end to the government's violent crackdown on protesters there this follows the e.u. announcing new sanctions against the regime but critics say the ban on oil imports
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is serving the interests of european companies rather than those of the syrian people. spain prepares for a fresh wave of protests ahead of a crucial senate vote on capping the budget deficit a move many fear will lead to social cuts meanwhile the european central bank calls for greater financial integration within the euro zone is the only way to solve the crisis. and the pioneers of rallies against social injustice in israel forty years ago joining the recent protests on the same issue members of the black panther movement say they're frustrated that the problems in the country have only gotten worse. sports up next with you know nail there you are unions huge and so we've got this great video coming up of these guys climbing way way up high on the cliffs and then jumping off and making it look pretty good but it's not something that i would do they're making up pretty easy on a red bull world series and i tell you what it's come to an end it's been all over the world it finished in ukraine and those won by
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a russian so an eastern european flavor much more on that plus the rest of the sport right now absolutely. thanks for joining us this is for today we've got plenty ahead a busy day including. irish test russia i do win which would all but ensure. charges on automatic qualifying spots next year's european football championships. court dates on the sea of public makes it into only her second ever ground quarter final meeting with rena williams awaits usual. causing a splash russian are chiming. the highest score in competition history on the way to winning the final world series cliff diving event this. crazy pictures all
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together but let's start with football where a crowd of seventy thought set to watch russia in the republic of ireland go for broke in moscow tonight a victory for the home side would go a large way to ensuring russia qualify for their third straight european championships a few notable absentees from take out the squad though first choice goalkeeper c.s.k. moscow's iraq and fear of misses the clash after picking up an entry in a recent club game the side central midfield rocky. through suspension but a plethora of big names are importing to bring former chelsea mongering sure call on arsenal's. russia currently set two points ahead of slovakia it doesn't matter who's playing for ireland even when they bring to under twenty one thousand. one hundred percent always difficult to play against but we have to think and i was so fun trying to do what we did there as well. and the hopefully we can do you
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know game as well meanwhile the irish are coming off a nolo draw against slovakia at the weekend visitors and to speeding a tough old in contra the luzhniki stadium where the feet should bring their qualifying over to the end marlins with a fully fit squad to choose from all those sports. mcgeady is still struggling with and i go injury. elsewhere in group b. is the fact you could move to join the top of the table when they host armenia and they armenians themselves though haven't given up on the play offs roots. pointless . now r.t. also caught up with. the who were speaking about a moment ago we asked the way or if he was looking forward to having international cup in russia on the pitch where the former celtic monarch plies his trade of course especially there was no here's where one can say so i gave above are even a force. of course would be good. to get through. because russia was
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a very very good team if you know international spalls and you know everyone seemed . to talk with weapons off the park so. we have a. course in what for. all right let's talk tennis where the quarterfinals of this year's u.s. open will feature a pair of russians kuznetsova not one of them though after being ousted by world number one car line was an iraqi honest to see a public chunk of i mean while will face serina williams test in the quarters the all of this well they weren't in the russian's favor going into her last sixteen clash with justin skeet ulrich over the last sued the italian in their previous three meetings twenty year old it also losing the opening set seven five before rallying back with a pull on five seven six three six for the final score so. public and now the sole russian ladies with a chance to take the title of flushing meadows. which include his next hurdle
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serina williams is looking in top form may evolve it should be able to stay in the game against a huge overall favorite losing six three six four twenty nine year old beasts public in their only career using the. novak djokovic tip sort of a child made grand slam history by setting up a clash with one another it's the first time in the open era the two serbs will face off in the quarterfinals of a major djokovic he was briefly caught off guard in the opening sets off his last sixteen and punter against the on orthodox style of alexander will pull off world number one recruit tell are for a smooth sailing from the second set on in seven six six four six. how it ended up that twenty four year old holds a two zero lead over upcoming folk to start of h. and head to head meeting this. duel for the song meanwhile halted searching local mardy fish in an epic five setter their twenty six year old season
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being the shirley owned by saving three great points in the opener but they stick to the set before a frantic rally by the frenchman cd i come running at i to itself six four six seven priest. six four six two. russia finished top of their group of the european basketball championships in the few any of the two thousand and seven winners making it five from five in the preliminary stage this except one point win over previously. on monday evening to a black man stopping their sixty five sixty four victory courtesy of a surrogate in. the bulls are no are through to the second stage. brings us the golfer webb simpson completed on the mazing rally to take the second event of the p.g.a. fed ex cup playoffs they don't ship by championships the american securing his second win on the p.g.a. tour by revie in a two hole play off a windy day at t.p.c. boston but that didn't stop him from enjoying some smooth sailing and run for this
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birdie on the eighteenth firing up the twenty six year old repeat a bogey resulting in the extra hole with us both birdie the it again that meant the move back to the seventeenth to reveal misfired on a birdie putt alone since in the close the tournament since in pocketing some one point four million dollars she also becomes number one in the fed ex cup standings giving him a clear shot at its ten million dollars bond. to atlantics where the russian national team of arrived back home from their most successful world championships ever those same competitors though are already looking forward to the future with the continent to the twenty thirteen world finals which will take place in moscow on the way the russian awfully to have plenty of added luggage coming back from asia having claimed nine gold for silver and six bronze medals the whole good enough to wear in second place behind the united states who finished with a dozen. finally the cliff diving season has ended with the red bull world
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series graham finale in ukraine. wrapping up his campaign in style notching up his so victory of the year with the highest. who are ever in the sports history. of this world fillings that's why the sport's most prestigious competition the red blue world series keeps traveling all across the planet to discover new locations to host their breathtaking events but the final stage of the season thirteen high flyers made their way to the swallows nest castle one of ukraine's main places of interest on the premium shore of the black sea. there englishman. who entered the event as a new. four stage when seeing the briton retain his world title two
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weeks ago. and the men. in the world standings russia still beat or don't see who was looking to claim their first event when harry hahn is and. he really shines with the more typical dives. you have somebody like our tim or you know how beautiful diver it was suited to the lead up to the first three rounds of the can petition. execution putting the burnished native ahead of puns and then to defiance the top six now left to do battle in the shadow of the castle and retirement once again on wishing he's ace in the back the so-called triple quad although. it was still the show at sunday's event demonstrating one of the hardest dives the sport has ever seen.
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with blank entry the russian entering the water with his head held high the outcome before the judges had even chilled. there are scores at first took place podium finish of the season but twenty seven year old and fourth career i ever it turned out to be more than just a win suit claiming the high still didn't score the competition has ever seen. mostly it's not my first win but it's definitely the most precious one for me i'm second in the overall standings but here i'm not it wouldn't have proved to be the backstage it's a very happy moon for me if i've been here before you all to is an incredible place this time i had my family a lot of my friends and my trainers came over to support me so i was a little nervous at first but up there on the platform which i left it's all because i use when i'm just concentrating on my diary was while i was. preparing
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for my dives it was kind of strange knowing that the pressure of the series was off everyone else is fighting for places and i was just taken as an individual competition autumn just perfectly today he's got tense entre at his side that's as good as it gets is scored the highest score ever gary has never scored so not even his big dives and he's diving good so often didn't win big time and it didn't matter if gary was diving good or not out of time or when after winning the first two stages this year nine time world champion or longer did get was forced to leave the conclusion due to injury but he's now recovered meaning the twenty twelve season is gearing out to be one of the most thrilling on record. the world clique delving series twenty eleven have just come to announce with all the best efforts of the sport having taken their owners but the point is that each of those who take
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part in this miss the rising competition can be safely called an outstanding sportsman. r.t. ukraine. really does get more amusing each time i watch the a lot as all the sports try whether it's next. hungry for the full story we've got it first hand the biggest issues get a human voice face to face with the news makers.
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all. he. says. if it's crimes the horrific critics also one of the e.u. is putting profits above syria lloyds the e.u. under fire as it emerges its latest sanctions against the syrian regime won't come
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into force for another two months. spain getting ready for a fresh wave of protests as senate meets to discuss capping the budget deficit ahead of wednesday's crucial vote in a move many fear will lead to huge social cuts. path of discontent pioneers of israel's rallies against social injustice forty years ago during recent protests on the same theme say the problems have only gotten worse. also as ukraine attempts to renegotiate gas prices with moscow russia is about to start filling the north stream on the same pipeline to bypass eventually transit countries and deliver gas directly to european consumers more on that in twenty minutes. one pm in moscow i match reza good to have you with us here on our t. .

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