i'm joined by rosemary hall is the professor of middle east policy studies at city university in london rosemary thanks for speaking to r.t. so how well has the international community handled the libyan crisis will you make a distinction between the nato members some of whom are extremely proud of what's been achieved so far in libya and the broader international community who are adjusting to developments in libya and deciding to be on the side of the future though not every government around the world has yet recognized and accepted the national transitional council as the government so did they do the right thing to begin with i think the u.n. responded to an emergency the arab league made a plea for some sort of intervention to save the citizens of benghazi from massacre . but only over the last several months have we all realized the extent to which britain and france in particular nato in general basically entered the war

determined that the anti gadhafi side when there seems to be an assumption that the new government of libya will be automatically pro west and the old all contracts will just be renewed but is that really going to be the case do you think i'm not so sure that. it the new libyan government will be pro-west there are three or four signals so far that they're very firmly nationalist for example they said they're not extraditing any libyan including abdel baset are men of god he who was convicted of the lockerbie bombing and the americans wanted. he's now close to death and living in tripoli and the national transitional council says that's where he stays the other signals are that they're talking about yes it would be nice to have u.n. help preparing for elections but no we don't want international observers there drawing the line where they think it should be drawn between what's their business

and what international help is useful for this is a good thing to thing i think it's essential for the survival of the next new libyan government that they be seem to be more libyan than a tool of the west to the west realize that you think it how dangerous is this kind of scramble for influence it's a good question do western players realize that they are a kind of liability i think only with difficulty they realize this they assume that they've got the best interests of not only themselves but libyans to heart and it can be an amicable mutually beneficial understanding reached but yeah they talk about democracy in a way that suggests they can only see the western version the british government certainly has been very keen to stress that this will not be another iraq and that they've learned those lessons but do you think that's really the case have they really learned those lessons it seems that every political generation every

generation of politicians thinks that they can achieve things that the previous one didn't until they try. they won't say any different so cameron and tacos he took on a massive gamble that they could pull something off in libya that would. contrast with the disaster that was the intervention in iraq and you know have president sarkozy talking as though this is a template for future interventions. may be but the cost in resources in manpower in struggle that is to come i mean there will have to be massive support in humanitarian terms in the near term there will be more fighting it is taking casualties and there's a lot of rebuilding to do and reconciliation between the factions and therefore it's not over and done with in terms of commitment of western

manpower time energy and resources how much potential is there for this to turn into another iraq is that on the right course now of course it's a cliche to say it but you know the comparisons can only be taken so far with iraq libya is a very different place and some calculations had to do with the fact that it seemed simpler to intervene in libya it was a smaller population spread out mostly along the coast with long exposed roads in between the main towns and cities that presented targets that nato aerial intervention looked capable of exploiting to good effect on the ground. how to say. what we hear about. various people from the m i six type sector but certainly special forces s.a.'s and so on operating on the

ground. this is very much. a kind of proxy war which must be extremely exciting and exhilarating at some level to be involved in so it's more likely it seems to me that in that sense the appetite for further interventions will exist as opposed to this is the template for. the triumph of humanitarianism over. warfare what about the national transitional council they've promised that within eighteen months they'll have a new constitution and elections is that possible well the lesson from. the other revolutions in the region and egypt is that there's good reasons to delay elections if you think you can organize a sensible coherent and different contrast with competing political parties if you have more time so it rather depends were the people are going to vote as they did

in iraq in the initial elections on name recognition or on sectarian loyalty it's in this case possibly in libya on tribal loyalties all rural urban divide. name recognition rather than choosing between different party platforms but an inclusive assembly to devise and choose and approve a constitution may not be such a bad thing the u.k. government is already sending at is that they've done for a reason but is that a little bit naive given what happened in iraq with a lot of money going missing i think it's essential if you've invested in the national transitional council you certainly have to hand over the money to them you can't then say but we don't trust you to spend it correctly because then you are verging on doing what the americans did in iraq which is saying we can do we can organize iraq better than the iraqis do you trust them to make

a point of doing it i think there's going to be. retribution i think there's going to be continued conflict in neighborhoods in. out lying regions of the country i think it's going to take a long time for the libyans to find their way to a completely different path look at duffy invented was a very peculiar system it was supposed to be democracy for the masses with grassroots assemblies making the decisions it was nothing of the kind it was a dictatorship and those around the colonel operated out of fear as much as green trying to suck up to him lots of people were implicated where do you draw the line who was too bad to be forgiven who needs prosecuting and will it be victor's justice or will it be the kind of magnanimous justice that is about inclusiveness and building together now the

libyans need to work all of that out in the meantime they've got to pay salaries to get the basic tasks of life including policing and the court system operating if during that period they are challenge to sign contracts with international companies and have to make decisions which end up reinforcing the role of the state in the commercial sector in the economy and include inducements from those companies to secure the contracts against the competition then we're back into the danger zone that this will not be a wholly transparent and one corrupt regime. the jury's out western leaders have stressed to the rebels the need to avoid revenge attacks and the need for tolerance yet they've also said that nato airstrikes will continue for as long as gadhafi is

a threat mixed messages well i know from my experience of. conversations with arabs in different parts of the arab world over many years that they never take the statements of the west at face value they always assume there's a hidden agenda and they positively expect. double standards so on this particular occasion it suits the rebels as well as the nato powers to fudge the truth about who's on the side of right and who's doing all the killing and what the consequences are but will this lead to revenge attacks already within the rebels rounding up sub-saharan black africans accusing them of being mercenaries that is appalling and there will be questions for the future of the economy how much i tender and labor do they need even the egyptians who were working for the libyans before the revolution have had rough treatment and have

gone home painted us people from east asia who've been in the same bind and you're seeing a version of racism and prejudice coming out against anybody who's black on suspicions that gadhafi recruited mercenaries from sub-saharan africa but. the truth is i'm a mixture of things yes some mercenaries how witting how understanding they were of what they got involved in one doesn't know but that a lot of innocents are getting caught up in this absolutely but that is the nature of war and so despite what sarkozy and cameron and anybody else may wish to do to dress this up as a glorious rescue of the ordinary people against a vicious dictator in fact it's war and bad things happen in war thank you.

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europe braces for a sturdy agger as italy and spain try to push through more savage cuts while the arduous sufferance to save greece appear to be on tangling. also turkey suspends all trade and military ties with the zero as relations sing to a new low because israel won't apologize for killing nine activists in last year's gaza flotilla raid. one of those stories in about fifteen minutes but first all the latest in sports the dimitri. will there will be sports a bit and the truth thanks for joining us for so first let's take a quick look at all still rules. i was just russia on as a victory in what could be a huge step told me. qualification sport at next year's european football championships. called date under stress simple change of advances into

a second grand slam quarter finals are in the williams is up next for the russian. and causing a splash rush. claims the highest score in competition history on the way to winning the final world seriously diving event of the season. now let's start with football where a crowd of seventy thousand fans are set to watch russia and the republic of ireland go for broke in moscow tonight a victory for the home side would go a long way to ensuring russia qualify for their third straight european championships a few notable absentees from dick advocaat scored first choice goalkeeper. in fave misses the clash after picking up an injury in a recent club game this side's central midfield denisov is also through suspension but a number of big names are on board including former chelsea and you richard and asked on that field under a sharp remember russia countless sit to points ahead of ireland and slovakia. it

doesn't matter whose glue for ireland even when they are under twenty one team degreed was always more than hundred percent always difficult to play against but again we have to. do what we did there as well. and the hope. meanwhile the irish are coming off a goal is draw against slovakia at the weekend the visitors anticipating a tough and counter delusionary stadium where defeat could bring their qualifying hopes to an end with a full if it squad to choose from all those spots not moscow in margate it is still struggling with an ankle injury. so in group three slovak could move to joint top of the table when the hosts mean it in a minute themselves haven't given up on the brute while still near rock bottom and door. not tennis where this year's used to open will see a pair of russians playing in the quarterfinals unfortunately not one of them after

being knocked out by world number one curling was not ski couldn't look to be controlled midway through the match that set up leading four one in the second but there's not spirit isn't the world's best for nothing dane who had suffered back to back opening round defeats in toronto and cincinnati right before the event stormed back in the second set to take a turn five and then lead to no chance to decide a six one and the match. history was on ice on a simple chunk of a side when she took on francesca schiavone in the last sixteen of the russian losing to the italian veteran for a grand slam meetings but the twenty year old putting that right on a five seven six three six four scoreline so it's been over a chunk of another so russian ladies with a chance to take at flushing meadows. who drink it is next hurdle serena williams is looking in top form an advantage unable to stay in the game against

acute roll favorites losing six three six for the twenty nine year old software the change in fritz sets in their one previous career meet. nor djokovic and younger to have made grand slam history by setting up a clash with each other it's the. first time in the open air. will face off in the quarterfinals of a major tournament joke of each briefly caught off guard in the opening set of his last sixteen encounter against alexander dug up all of. the world number one regrouped and managed to recover seven six six four six two how to ended up the twenty four year old hold it two zero lead of the upcoming opponent in head to head me to. the federal will be sleeping this morning after his marriage with one monarch only started at midnight a york time that express dominates the argentine six one six two and six love. joel fritz and garmin while halted surging local favorite modification in an epic

five set of the twenty six season the initiative alone by seven three breakpoints in the open a fish took the next two sets before the frenchman three of the decider six two. now that cliff diving season has ended with the red bull world series grand finale in ukraine russia's correcting his campaign in style as he claimed his sole stage which of the year with a high score in sports history is robert. ever see this was billings that's why the sport's most prestigious competition the red world series keeps traveling across the planet discovering new locations to host their breathtaking events for the final stage of the season thirteen high flyers made their way to the swallows nest castle one of ukraine's main places of interest

on the crimean shore of the black sea. there englishman. who entered the event as the newly crowned. for stage wins in seeing the briton retain his world title two weeks ago. and the men. in the world standings russia still. are doing sujan looking to claim their first event when it was suited to the lead up to the first three rounds of the can petition. execution putting the burnished native ahead of puns and then to defiance the top six now left to do battle in the shadow of the castle and retirement once again he's facing the back the so-called triple quad although. it was still the show at sunday's event demonstrating one of the hardest dives the sport has ever seen. with blank

entry the russian entering the water with his head held high the outcome before the judges had even showed their scores at first placed podium finish of the season but twenty seven year old and fourth career high over it turned out to be more than just a win claiming the highest total score the competition has ever seen. his face. it's not my first win but it's definitely the most precious one for me i'm second in the overall standings but here i have proved to be the backstage it's a very happy moment for me while i was. preparing for my dives it was kind of strange knowing that the pressure of the series was our everyone else is fighting for a place. and i was just taking it as an end of a vigil competition after winning the first two stages this year nine time world

champion oriented kid was forced to leave the conclusion due to injury but he's now recovered living with twenty twelve season is gearing up to be one of the really on the record. the world cleat diving series twenty eleven have just come to know and with all the best efforts of the sport having taken their owners but the point is that each of those who take part in this miss no rising competition can be safely called an outstanding sportsman. r.t. ukraine. and finally whatever goes up must come down and these guys make a living out of it their russian parachute masters recently dominated at the european freefall style and accuracy landing championships and events are gorski looks at the trials and tribulations faced by those high flying and fast landing competitors.

ascending to cruising altitude of one thousand meters is followed by a swift freefall back down with virtually no margin of error the competitor is expected to land on a dime with a dead center sweet spot only two centimeters in diameter and while such consistent precision landings may seem far fetched to the uninitiated they're considered to be the fundamentals of the sport. one who has every athlete must always learn the basics of their school before going any further calculating a jump is the most fundamental aspect of parachute sports and safety that's why i believe all youngsters should start with the classic parachuting discipline we've got kids coming in at sixteen years old some of who go on to become junior well champions by twenty. the individual acrobatics program meanwhile requires one to twist and turn in the air at an alarming rate and simply executing flashing chris movements is not enough either. the judges getting the opposite of bird's eye view

for this event to see if participants can keep a straight of a trajectories possible while they perform the flips and like in every sport be a successful high flying daredevil requires a specific skill set and personality but if he's nish the besides being brave i believe anyone participating in this will must be physically developed and have coordination fully wolf it will definitely help for insurance while playing billiards will help one make more precise landing calculations russian women proving to be the bravest in serbia take in the overall honors and dominating fashion the czech showed just a little bit more savvy than the russians in the men's event goal to win gold frenchwoman deborah planned for zero meanwhile said the world record for her lending persuasion six consecutive landings just one centimeter off putting her exactly where she wanted to be every time a total of seventeen countries taking to the skies but her. russia's main

parachuting man hopes for more local support in getting high through choice the humans have always had dreams of reaching for the skies and flying we created planes and rockets in the sport that we have today is another manifestation of that desire to fly safely our government will notice and help our efforts allowing us to raise our level of performance. and while the more grounded sports seem to get more exposure these daredevils are hoping this competition continues to take off in russia and worldwide even sikorsky r.t. . i can soften the phenomenon toss time here and not take with us next. hungry for the full story we've got it first on the biggest issues get a human voice face to face with the news makers on the.

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southern europe braces for a sturdy agger as italy and spain try to push through more savage cuts all the arduous suffer as to save greece appear to be on tangling. also turkey suspends all trade and military ties with israel as relations to a new low because israel won't apologize for killing nine activists in the last two years gaza flotilla raid and. the loss in business a lot of their boots and puts the finishing touches on the north rim pipeline to start pumping gas to europe i'll have more on that in business in twenty minutes. it's five pm here in the russian capital you're watching our t.v. now to our top story the syrian regime is accused of having more blood on its hands .