hello again you're watching our t.v. here's a recap of the main stories we're covering for you today backing on sanctions that you use all of them are the ones syria could back far as energy firms cash in on talking for another two months fueling the regime it's going to. southern europe braces for a sturdy anger as italy and spain try to push through more savage cuts while the arduous efforts to see greece appear to be tackling. also turkey suspends all trade and military ties with israel as relations sinks to a new low because he's route wrong to apologize for killing nine outs of his in

last year's gaza flotilla rate. and by the near future throws the switch on a new undersea gas pipelines in europe curbing ukraine start as as an irreplaceable middleman to which it's used to go shoot discounts for its own suppliers. and next spotlight looks at whether russian universities have the dough how to work among the world's elites learning attack academies that's next. hello again i want him to spotlight the interview show on r.t. i'll bring all of in today my guest in the studio is alan goodman russia is trying hard to modernize its education system and bring it out to international standards

but some experts believe this will be how the traditions of russian higher education they advocate russia go in its own way so what about an outsider's view of where an average russian student stands against foreign counterparts here is the present tense c.e.o. of the institute of international education alan good. even though russian specialists are valued around the world the russian higher education isn't popular with foreign students only three percent of students who go to study abroad choose a russian university this has become a serious concern for russian educators they want a bigger share in the international educational programs. vs is already getting this students in accordance with the european higher education accords he strives to standardize the quality of education throughout europe but for some russians that's not enough debate is underway on the future of higher education within the

country. oh mr goodnow working to show thank you very much for being with us thank you well first of all i wanted to ask you to comment on what president obama said recently that the us president he said that that education and innovation will be the currency of the twenty first century and therefore i quote we will expand exchange programs and increase. scholarships like the one that brought my father to america and plants and that's what about and said could you explain this please well you know i understand that is far the better but what does it mean saying that the currency of entry first century it's how all of our societies fuel you know variation it's how we better educate our people much are we preparing them for not only global citizenship but work in a global marketplace education today can do all of that for all of our people say

you are sure that that really means it when he says now that this probably will be well today there's nothing more important for america than the dollar but he says tomorrow it will be education is that true well the way sometimes you get dollars or rubles as to get better educated and the more education you have the more chances you are to prepare to earn more for your family and more for your country so i think president obama really means what he's what he's saying and he really believes in exchanges he is one of the few american presidents that studied abroad well you said that the more the more educated you are the more money may grow not always and you know and you know this is true but you want to say together with obama that in the twenty first century this will be a real exception young with an educated person will be able to make big bucks in that true world this century is one we're we're all living in

a knowledge economy we're all living in a global marketplace and we're working today to create the jobs of the future and we're preparing students to have the jobs of the future and the only way to do that is through education and the more you have the better. state clinton wants graduates to become and i quote this special envoy is part of your ideas as a citizen a master's using your personal and prefer. national lives to forge global partnerships do you believe that really students change may do war for and the standing between people of different countries different nations and any other the privacy of their traditional official policy i do i do and i think you need both the will and the way secretary clinton was talking about the world it becomes the representatives of your society representatives of your ideas and exchanges the way in which we share that with other people but also learn from them so i think you have to have young

people ready and willing to study abroad ready and willing to have better experience around and you have to have exchanges increasing so they can do that well let's listen to the young people who decided that education abroad was essential to their future life and career start right even a dimmy of the reports from moscow state university. is aspiring to become a prune in the i.p.o.'s from russia and to a market economy twenty years ago initial public offerings are stupid why do anything to improve he's on this thing you know andrea went to new york to google some largest stock exchange i was able to communicate with. professionals this helped me in terror and violence my knowledge and i get the idea of oh my goodness i'm dreaming is one of the thousand students who take advantage of the

moscow state university exchange programs and hear some of them will eventually be rewarded with a very special kind of diploma a double one. double diploma means you started in two universities in two different countries and you're a dictation is acknowledged in both these countries it means more opportunities for those who receive it when you're still from park again a university staff believe a mood in the google ised world makes going abroad for education on the troops. perience that point of view shared by sponsor a u.s. student who was doing a degree in russian studies and came to my school to some on the ground experience obviously for the study around the world i think it was a lot more effective for somebody because you can be advocated of a culture not really actually be educated if you can understand somebody else's point of view and going abroad and studying in different countries very different universities really gives you that opportunity spence's friend who agree with you

with ceasar grew up in the who was saying can you really boast of a global educational experience and is a go to compare systems in various parts of the planet you know the same system educational system is very individual you pick your courses you pick your classes as far as your money goes i think as more traditional i enjoy russian system or because this war miller to me i'm close to my heart while studying in moscow grigori learnt of the school in the ration project and is now considering taking part something he would never have been able to do it didn't have a travel is part of his education. he said recently in one of the interviews pursuing an education in a foreign country allows a young person to develop the skills necessary to become an effective and

productive global citizen and where. does that mean the studying abroad makes a person more competitive in the labor market than a person at the educational here locally as in his own country it makes a person more competitive but also more compassionate and more confident. we're going abroad you learn a lot about self-reliance you learn about your ability to adapt to a new environment and you learn to work with people from. any different walks of life and cultures and that's what the global marketplace is a very labor force as are multicultural or multinational you can only learn that in the classroom you have to get out of the classroom and go to another culture and work and study in that environment as well. traditionally people don't people like myself who got good educational run i'm a trained journalist they they they started a career and that was their trade for the rest of their lives and i guess this was

pretty much the same for everybody. my generations and generations and my father and grandfather and someone today it is changing and people people are telling me there's no way that he will or will not be able to survive this way that we'll to be successful you should undergo training every additional training every other couple five years six years and change change your trade change your profession find something else in order to be successful is it true and is it true that in the twenty first century people have to spend more money more time and training. there's no rule that education starts when you're twenty one or twenty two when you get your first degree or second degree so we really believe education is a lifelong process your field is journalism you have had to learn many different media you had to learn about many different revolutions had to learn about many

different places even if you focused only on russia because russia is affected by things all over the world so you can still practise the same profession but you have to educate yourself in it every day what we mean my generation we did learn a lot but we learnt a lot while working well we started journalism as junior guy somewhere in a paper radio station and then we learned from our colleagues will learn from. but we never thought ok i'll quit for here and i'll go to china to learn something new and then i'll come back and get a better job is this the way people should do it today yes i think it is a new paradigm it's a new school of thought there's nothing wrong with the old school of thought of continuing to get degrees and continue to be educated but however you do it i think you need to have the international part of it whether you're a journalist or an engineer or a doctor i don't know how traditionally you are you so this is it make you happy or

does it make you sad that people people are not becoming super professionals in what they do but rather always look around maybe there's something better something some someplace where i can earn more some people are becoming super professionals but they're getting a global perspective and i think that's ok other people yes you're right they'll change their job their career their direction many times during the course of their life and one of the good things about the education systems your country and my country has is it can be there for them. well it's more fun of course changing your way of life will every once in awhile but but that i think that doesn't really move progress. forward because in order in order to find something new to to to develop something you should you should stay and do what you're doing

for years and years and years before you start being a locomotive any run trade is that true but you can't really today because super professional the super expert if you're confined to only one country and only one discipline knowledge it's multi-disciplinary now the best professionals the best experts the next people that will win nobel prizes probably are multidisciplinary probably have lived in were conservative contrarian's. are adjusting to the global economy and that's what really being a super professionals all about oh you're the c.e.o. of the institute of international education tell me do you think new technologies can allow people to get international education be educated in foreign universities without leaving their hell i mean can i see technology replaced actually going to lectures seminars mixing with kids and living in canberra and so on no i think you

have to have that initial experience you know you have to know how you react to different food different people a different place and and then you can use ip and distance learning to continue the relationship to widen your relationship but what if you personally don't know how you're going to react in another situation you can't learn that just on camera says our government president and c.e.o. are these that you are international education spotlight will be back shortly after we take a break so stay with us we'll continue and let's belin. the worldwide manhunt for him lasted for fifteen years. now one million year old war was promised first count. political mass murder for the west. the

national hero the managing. general of the serbian army. the mahdi. are coming. on our chief. would be soon which right if you remove the son from feinstein the question. starts on t.v. dot com. welcome back to spotlight time elder nerve and today our guest is al goodman who is the

c.e.o. institute of international education. can you tell us which countries today are the most popular destinations for forest national scholars well we think of you are really the big crowd of the united states the united kingdom france germany and for the first country you can take a pic now it could be australia could be a candidate could be china but those country instead i mentioned the g five the g eight account for about eighty percent eighty percent of all move or you know move that's right. all of the countries outside the western world for china which is pretty exotic back. that is part of that that's our competitive well education you bet and in a sense every country is competitive because it's the experience of being in another place that can make you

a different profession but there are about two thousand americans here in russia or about two thousand americans studying in egypt those are considered high risk a surely there's some higher education those are exotic destinations they're just as meaningful as going to. something like china because what you're doing is understanding a great nation an old civilization and how you relate to that well europe has already introduced a standard of education called the below and your system russians are talking a lot about introducing it here in this country and we've already made steps well not everybody likes the many people disagree but still we are moving in the direction do you think they should be a global standard of education should be standardized i think the transfer of credits in the movement of students and scholars across borders ought to be liberalized standardize something that institutions and governments commit to

sharing. we in america poorly understand of the longer process we poorly understand the nature of the degrees and it begins with the fact that your high schools are longer than our high schools so it will take some time for us to be comfortable with the degree from europe but the fact that you're trying to standardize you're trying to make mobility easier you're trying to encourage people from knowing going to different countries and i think that's something that should be a global standard. recent reports by the institute everywhere nationally you can present here found that there were notable increases in the number of u.s. students game. to study in a less traditional this nation is what you were talking about there fifteen of the top twenty five destinations were outside western europe and nineteen countries were english is not

a primary language so what makes these countries the tractor for remember america's progress but americans these should be i mean american kids they should be pretty realistic they you may be thinking of. going around i mean. it is introducing yourself to foreign cultures but kids think about how to act to find a good job how to make money so why are they going abroad maybe the chinese example will work with something else or your first question was about the global economy and the knowledge economy that's taking place outside of great britain taking place outside of france that he is in years trying it is egypt and so americans are very conscious of winning to understand those places so i think that's why they're going in on more and more to nontraditional destinations and they ought to because that's where the global economic action is. in the most prestigious university

rankings that we see and that there we can take a look at the russian education looks quite merry ocker and it's very sad for the russians because we we are used to especially the people that were raised in the soviet union as myself we're used to and knowing that the russian education system is one of the best in the world what's happening is there's something wrong with the rankings is there something wrong with the standards we're talking about or is this something something really wrong with the russian system since you here in russia maybe maybe you can tell us i'd say just wait a minute they really are waiting for twenty years and it's not. having any better interest well i was just with here you're a minister for education and so on. he and all the right players are not well clearing the rector of moscow state mentioned the fact that government is investing now heavily in education that's the beginning. and that hasn't been the case here

it isn't the case in many countries that's why they're not on the list but i think in five years russia will be on all what's called the league tables people will see that the twenty nine designated research universities are making major contributions to the world especially in science and that's what's going to put us on the range put our schools on the rankings and your schools in the rankings so so you think it's undue funding because of the perestroika and russian economy now that it's just the lack of money in there in the universities and this is the reason for the drawbacks of the money isn't everything but if you ask an american university leader what are the three most important ingredients that usually money money and money think dollars dollars cents and he said maybe somebody chinese you are. and you know your own sister the great universities are built on huge and dominance fun research like fun cutting edge teaching in the production of

knowledge other countries are catching up with. your government's investment is going to make a very good start of this this is a very educated culture and a very smart students we send our kids here to have math in moscow because you're going to mostly because your university teaching of math and superior to ours and many thing you name least a couple of russian universities which you think should be should be among the ranks among the best in the world i mean they deserve to be i think you'll see moscow state and saying here's some beauty and before too long the twenty nine universities designated for research. the government is investing in excellence i mean this new program here start and i think that's clearly that's going to change the you mentioned what are the areas which would you recommend for international students to come to russia where we have. good or maybe even better than others

russia is famous for physics for nanoparticles research for optics in addition to the fact that you've got a rich culture that's given the world. dostoyevsky tolstoy the place of turkey or so there are so many things here that people from other cultures interested in knowledge can learn but i think the real growth is going to be in the science and tech in math area and what are the russians mainly go to to study in the us what they mainly what what science is a russian of weakness. i get impression that most of the people going to america want to study business business administration is it true or maybe something else probably half are doing the sciences and half are doing business in your graduate students in physics are becoming our graduate students in physics. there's

a tremendous flow in the math field between the two countries so i think you'll see that continue but business is very important subject now it attracts students to america we go abroad to study of and i think you'll see that growth continue. do you have a remedy against brain drain. it's called is there in his brain that's called globalization and it's globalization which is what causes great trade no it isn't actually what solves the problem because now you can be educated in the foreign country and then you look for a job and you realize that job is waiting for you back home because you have the advanced skills and it can be used in our economy so instead of brain drain we are seeing brain game in many of the places like india and china were a decade before it was only a flow one way so globalization is producing jobs it's also producing

a way to attract people back to their home countries you said you met the russian reactors of the universities the ministry of higher education well they should have told you a lot about about this new innovation project well what do you think this is this skolkovo educational center special place designed for for education and for. getting skidd that link together people from students from all over the world can solve the problem a great brain drain that russia russia is facing today i think the total set of activities that you're a minister is undertaking a new draft law on higher education the openness of your records so all of that's required special centers special programs and the laws all that is going to help with brain circulation you also have a rich yes of russian intellectuals and professors in america and europe and you're

attracting them back as well you're attracting their students back to russia that's also going to create a flow back here but at the meal real model we need to look at is not is not just a one way flow but a continuous circulation just like we talked earlier of continuous education and how do you do that i mean this can conclude that you keep your borders open you encourage your students to study abroad you encourage them to come home you encourage them to go out again because knowledge is also global that's what we're learning from the internet and and so the sites where it's produced exist all over the world and what we should be doing is keeping our doors our minds and our borders open thank you thank you very much for being with us and just a reminder that my guest today on the show was alan that he's the president and c.e.o. of this new chief international education and that's it for now from all of us here

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