well more insight into what's happening in libya with a leading middle east analyst in artie's interview that's up next. i'm joined by rosemary hollis the professor of middle east policy studies at city university in london rosemary thanks for speaking to r.t. so how well has the international community handled the libyan crisis will you make a distinction between the nato members some of whom are extremely proud of what's been achieved so far in libya and the broader international community who are adjusting to developments in libya and deciding to be on the side of the future though not every government around the world has yet recognized and accepted the national transitional council as the government so did they do the right thing to begin with i think the u.n. responded to an emergency the arab league made a plea for some sort of intervention to save the citizens of benghazi from massacre

. but only over the last several months have we all realized the extent to which britain and france in particular nato in general basically entered the war determined that the anti gadhafi side when there seems to be an assumption that the new government of libya will be automatically pro west and the old contracts will just be renewed but is that really going to be the case do you think i'm not so sure that. the new libyan government will be pro-west there are three or four signals so far that they're very firmly nationalist for example they said they're not extraditing any libyan including abdel baset i'm a guy he who was convicted of the lockerbie bombing and the americans wanted. he's now close to death and living in tripoli and the national transitional council says that's where he stays the other signals are that they're talking

about yes it would be nice to have u.n. help. caring for elections but no we don't want international observers there drawing the line where they think it should be drawn between what's their business and what international help is useful for is a good thing to thing i think it's essential for the survival of the next new libyan government that they be seem to be more libyan than a tool of the west to the west reliance that you think it how dangerous is this kind of scramble for influence it's a good question how do western players realize that they are a kind of liability i think only with difficulty do they realize this they assume they've got the best interests of not only themselves but libyans to heart and can be an amicable mutually beneficial understanding reached but yeah they talk about democracy in a way that suggests they can only see the western version the british government

certainly has been very keen to stress that this will not be another iraq and that they've learned those lessons but do you think that's really the case have they really learned those lessons it seems that every political generation every generation of politicians thinks that they can achieve things that the previous one didn't until they try. they won't say any different so cameron and tacos he took a massive gamble that they could pull something off in libya that would contrast with the disaster that was the intervention in iraq and you know have president sarkozy talking as though this is a template for future interventions. maybe but the cost in resources in manpower in struggle that is to come i mean there will have to be massive support in humanitarian terms in the near term there will be more fighting

it is taking casualties and there's a lot of rebuilding to do and reconciliation between the. factions and therefore it's not over and done with in terms of commitment of western manpower time energy and resources how much potential is there for this to turn into another iraq is it on the right course now of course it's a cliche to say it but you know the comparisons can only be taken so far with iraq libya is a very different place and some calculations had to do with the fact that it seemed simpler to intervene in libya it was a smaller population spread out mostly along the coast with long exposed roads in between the main towns and cities that presented targets that nato aerial intervention looked capable of exploiting to good effect on the ground . how to say. what we hear about. various people

from the m i six type sector but certainly special forces s.a.'s and so on operating on the ground. this is very much. a kind of proxy war which must be extremely exciting and exhilarating at some level to be involved in so it's more likely it seems to me that in that sense the appetite for further interventions will exist as opposed to this is the template for. the triumph of humanitarianism over. warfare what about the national transitional council they've promised that within eighteen months they'll have a new constitution and elections is that possible well the lesson from. the other revolutions in the region and in egypt is that there is good reasons to

delay elections if you think you can organize sensible heroin and different contra. competing political parties if you have more time so it rather depends where people are going to vote as they did in iraq in the initial elections on name recognition or on sectarian loyalties in this case possibly in libya on tribal loyalties or rural urban divide. name recognition rather than choosing between different party platforms but an inclusive assembly to devise and choose and approve a constitution may not be such a bad thing the u.k. government's already sending ass's that they've run frozen but is that a little bit naive given what happened in iraq with a lot of money going missing i think it's essential if you've invested in the national transitional council you certainly have to hand over the money to them you

can't then say but we don't trust you to spend it correctly because then you are verging on doing what the americans did in iraq which you're saying we could do we can organize iraq better than the iraqis do you trust them to make a point of doing it i think there's going to be retribution i think there's going to be continued conflict in neighborhoods in. out lying regions of the country i think it's going to take a long time for the libyans to find their way to a completely different path look at duffy invented was a very peculiar system it was supposed to be democracy for the masses with grassroots assemblies making the decisions it was nothing of the kind it was a dictatorship and those around the colonel operated out of fear as much as green trying to suck up to him lots of people were implicated where do you draw the line who was too bad to be forgiven who needs

prosecuting and will it be. is justice or will it be the kind of magnanimous justice that is about inclusiveness and building together now the libyans need to work all of that out in the meantime they've got to pay salaries to get the basic tasks of life including policing and the court system operating if during that period they are challenge just sign contracts with international companies and have to make decisions which end up reinforcing the role of the state in the commercial sector in the economy and include inducements from those companies to secure the contracts against the competition then we're back into the danger zone that this will not be a wholly transparent and one corrupt regime. the jury's out

western leaders have stressed to the rebels the need to avoid revenge attacks and the need for tolerance yet they've also said that nato airstrikes will continue for as long as gadhafi is a threat messages well i know from my experience of. conversations with arabs in different parts of the arab world over many years that they never take the statements of the west at face value they always assume there's a hidden agenda and they positively expect. double standards so on this particular occasion it suits the rebels as well as the nato powers to fudge the truth about who's on the side of right and who's doing all the killing and what the consequences are but will this lead to revenge attacks already within the rebels rounding up sub-saharan black africans accusing them of being mercenaries that is appalling and there will be questions for the future of the

economy how much i turn around labor do they need. even the egyptians who were working for the libyans before the revolution have had rough treatment and have gone home painted us people from east asia who've been in the same bind and you're seeing a version of racism and prejudice coming out against anybody who's black on suspicions that gadhafi recruited mercenaries from sub-saharan africa but. the truth is a mixture of things yes some mercenaries how witting how understanding they were of what they got involved in one doesn't know but that a lot of innocents are getting caught up in this absolutely but that is the nature of war and so despite what sarkozy and cameron and anybody else may wish to do to dress this up as a glorious rescue of the ordinary people against

a vicious dictator in fact it's war and bad things happen in war thank you. the worldwide manhunt for him lasted for fifteen years. and one million euro lord wasn't promised for a scam church. political miss murphy of the west. for many years a. general in the serbian army. much . larger than the. monarchy.

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a stir italy and spain try to push through more savage cuts all the arduous efforts to save greece appear to be. also turkey suspends all trade and military ties with a solution since to a new low because i won't apologize for killing. the last year's gaza flotilla great. britain throws a switch from the new undersea gas pipeline to europe curbing ukraine staios as an irreplaceable middleman which it seems to negotiate discounts for its own supplies . more of those stories of fifteen minutes but first all the latest sports. hello there welcome to the sports update it is good for your company again in this

whole. test russia victory in what a huge step towards an automatic qualification support at next year's european football championships. and the simple chance of advances into our last second grand slam quarter final cyrano williams is up next for the question in new york. and causing us splash rushers. claims the high school in competition history on the way to winning the final while seriously taking advantage of the city's. now let's start with football where a crowd of seventy thousand fans are set to watch russia and the republic of ireland go for broke in moscow tonight victory for the side would go a long way to ensuring russia qualify for their third straight european championships a few notable absentees from dick advocaat squad first choice goalkeeper. faith misses the clash after picked up an injury and their recent club game this side

central midfielders denise it's all sought for suspension but a number of big names are on board including former chelsea player is your cough and the midfielder. remember russia countless sit points had a fall and and. it doesn't matter who's kloof while and even when they are under twenty one team to commit was always more than hundred percent always difficult to play against but again we have to also tried to do what we did there as well and the world sure hope we can do to no game as well. meanwhile the irish are coming off a goalless draw against slovakia at the weekend the visitors anticipating a tough encounter at the luzhniki stadium where defeat could bring the qualifying helps to an end all and with a full if it's got to choose from all the spots out moscow player in market is still struggling with an ankle injury or. group could move to joint top of the

table when the host. of them instead of celts hadn't given up player fruit wild mosquito net post and or. now tennis where this year's u.s. open will see a pair of russians playing in the quarter finals with long presence over unfortunately not one of them after being knocked out by world number one colin was not ski and solver not to be in control midway through the match setup and leading for one in the second but was not isn't the world's best for nothing day suffered back to back opening round defeat in toronto and since a nazi right before the event stormed back in the second to take it seven five and then left three prong and no chance to decide the six one and the match. is three wasn't on the simple chant of a side one shoot to confront just because you've won it in the last sixteen russian losing to the telling veteran in the previous three grand slam meetings but state

twenty year old putting that right on a five seven six three six four school why isn't there over and over now this russian ladies with a chance to take the title at flushing meadows. next hurdle serena williams is looking in top form and yvonne of each unable to stay in the game against the future will play the losing six three six four to twenty nine year old softball trying to respect one previous career. and young good tips are a bitch have made grand slam history by setting up a clash with each other it's the first time in the. open era that will face off in quarter finals of a major tournament joke which briefly caught offguard in the opening set of his last sixteen encounter against alexandre dug up all of the world number one recruit and managed to recover the seven six six four six to the twenty four year old holds a two zero lead coming opponent tips ready to. go to

federal will be sleeping in this morning for this match which are not only started at midnight time but explain dominating tyrant six one six two six love. to will fritz and garmin while the fate of the local favorite modification and that pick five sets a twenty six year old seizing the initiative by saving three great points in the opener fifty max two sets before the frenchman three of the decider sixty. now the cliff diving season has ended with the red bull world series drawn phenolic in ukraine russia. wrapping up his companion style claim to sell staged picture of the year with a high score in the sport's history his rabbits not enough. diverse seek to do this week's billings that's why the sports moves brits do just good

position the red bull world series keeps dribbling all because the planet discovering new creations get hosed they're taking events for the bonus stage of the season thirteen by players made their way to the swells near castle one of the ukraine's main places of interest in the brilliant sure of the black sea. and of pulling their englishman during then through the band as the new champion for stage wins in a row seeing the briton retain his world two weeks ago. and the man who sits second in the world standings russia still be done over there don't see who was looking to claim that first event when it was suited to the lead up to the first three rounds of the can petition. execution putting the burnished native ahead of punt. and then to the finals the top six now left to do battle in the shadow of the castle

brilliant retirement once again and wishing he's facing the back the so-called triple what although to assume he's still the show at sunday's event demonstrating one of the hardest dives the sport has ever seen it become stand with blank and treat the russian entering the water with his head held high the outcome clear before the judge just had to give a show there are scores at first took place to podium finish of the season but twenty seven year old and fourth of his career however it turned out to be more than just a win suit claiming the highest total score the competition has ever seen. mostly it's not my first win but it is definitely the most precious one for me i'm second in the overall standings but here i'm not it wouldn't have proved to be the best it's a very happy moon for me while i was. preparing for my dives it was

kind of strange knowing that the pressure of the series was off everyone else is fighting for places and i was just taken as an individual competition after winning the first two stages this year nine time world champion or longer going to get was forced to leave the completion due to injury but he's now recovered meaning the twenty twelve season is gearing out to be one of the most thrilling and record. the workweek dubbing series twenty. eleven have just come to know and with all the best efforts of the sport have been taking their owners but the point is that each of those who take part in this miss will rise in competition can be safely called an outstanding sportsman. on r t ukraine. finally what a that goes up must come down and these guys make

a living out of it the russian passion last has recently dominated at the your pain freefall style and carousel ending championships and so it was like our skin looks at the trials and tribulations faced by those high flying and fast landing competitors. ascending to cruising altitude of one thousand meters is followed by a swift freefall back down with virtually no margin of error the competitors are expected to land on a dime with a dead center sweet spot only two centimeters in diameter and while such consistent precision landings may seem far fetched to the uninitiated they are considered to be the fundamentals of the sport. when you have every athlete must always learn the basics of their sport before going any further calculating a jump is the most fundamental aspect of parachute sports and safety that's why i believe all youngsters should start with the classic parachuting discipline we've got kids coming in at sixteen years old some of who go on to become junior world champions by twenty. the individual acrobatics program meanwhile requires one to

twist and turn in the air at an alarming rate and simply executing flashing chris movements is not enough either. the judges getting the opposite of bird's eye view for this event to see if participants can keep a straight of the trajectories possible while they perform the flips and like in every sport be a successful high flying daredevil requires a specific skill set and personality but if you wish but besides being brave i believe anyone participating in the sport must be physically developed and have coordination wolf it will definitely help for insurance while playing billiards will help one make more precise landing calculations russian women proving to be the bravest in serbia taking the overall honors and dominating fashion the czech showed just a little bit more so. even the russians in the men's event goal to win gold frenchwoman deborah plat for zero meanwhile set the world record for her lending

persuasion six consecutive landings just one centimeter off putting her exactly where she wanted to be every time a total of seventeen countries taking to the skies but russia's main parachuting man hopes for more local support in getting high prove. humans have always had dreams of reaching for the skies and flying we created planes and rockets and the support that we have today is another manifestation of that desire to fly safely our government will notice and help our efforts allowing us to raise our level of performance. and while the more grounded sports seem to get more exposure these daredevils are hoping this competition continues to take off in russia and worldwide event sikorsky r.t. . ok that's all the sport for the moment and tossed on him not. hungry for the full story we've got it for. the biggest issues get

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