you are joined by rosemary hall is the professor of middle east policy studies at city university in london rosemary thanks for speaking to r.t. so how well has the international community handled the libyan crisis will you make a distinction between the nato members some of whom are extremely proud of what's been achieved so far in libya and the broader international community who are adjusting to developments in libya and deciding to be on the side of the future though not every government around the world has yet recognized and accepted the national transitional council as the government so did they do the right thing to begin with i think the u.n. responded to an emergency the arab league made a plea for some sort of intervention to save the citizens of benghazi from massacre . but only over the last several months have we all realized the extent to

which britain and france in particular nato in general basically entered the war determined to get off the side when there seems to be an assumption that the new government of libya will be automatically pro-west and the old contracts will just be renewed but is that really going to be the case do you think i'm not so sure that. if the new libyan government will be pro-west there are three or four signals so far that they're very firmly nationalist for example they said they're not extraditing any libyan including abdel baset a man of god he who was convicted of the lockerbie bombing and the americans wanted . he's now close to death and living in tripoli and the national transitional council says that's where he stays the other signals are that they're talking about yes it would be nice to have u.n.

help preparing for elections but no we don't want international observers there drawing the line where they think it should be drawn between what's their business and what international help is useful for this is a good thing to thing i think it's essential for the survival of the next new libyan government that they be seem to be more libyan than a tool of the west to the west realize that you think it how dangerous is this kind of scramble for influence it's a good question do western players realize that they are a kind of liability i think only with difficulty do they realize this they assume they've got the best interests of not only themselves but libyans to heart and can be an amicable mutually beneficial understanding reached but yeah they talk about democracy in a way that suggests they can only see the western version the british government certainly has been very keen to stress that this will not be another iraq and that

they've learned those lessons but do you think that's really the case have they really learned those lessons it seems that every political generation every generation of politicians thinks that they can achieve things that the previous one didn't until they try. they won't say any different so cameraman tacos he took a massive gamble that they could pull something off in libya that would. contrast with the disaster that was the intervention in iraq and you know how of president sarkozy talking as though this is a template for future interventions. maybe but the cost in resources in manpower in struggle that is to come i mean there will have to be massive support in humanitarian terms in the near term there will be more fighting it is taking casualties and there's a lot of rebuilding to do and reconciliation between the factions and

therefore it's not over and done with in terms of commitment of western manpower time energy and resources how much potential is there for this to turn into another iraq is that on the right course now of course it's a cliche to say it but you know the comparisons can only be taken so far with iraq libya is a very different place and some calculations had to do with the fact that it seemed simpler to intervene in libya it was a small population spread out mostly along the coast with long exposed roads in between the main towns and cities that presented targets that nato aerial intervention looked capable of exploiting to good effect on the ground . how to say. what we hear about. various people from the m i six type sector but certainly special forces s.a.'s and so on

operating on the ground. this is very much. a kind of proxy war which must be extremely exciting and exhilarating at some level to be involved in so it's more likely it seems to me that in that sense the appetite for further interventions will exist as opposed to this is the template for. the triumph of humanitarianism over. warfare what about the national transitional council they've promised that within eighteen months they'll have a new constitution and elections is that possible well the lesson for all. the other revolutions in the region and egypt is that there is good reasons to delay elections if you think you can organize a sensible coherent and different contrast with competing political parties if you

have more time so it rather depends were the people are going to vote as they did in iraq in the initial elections on name recognition or on sectarian loyalties in this case possibly in libya on tribal loyalties all rural urban divide. name recognition rather than choosing between different party platforms but an inclusive assembly to devise and choose and approve a constitution may not be such a bad thing the u.k. government is already sending at is that they've frozen but is that a little bit naive given what happened in iraq with a lot of money going missing i think it's essential if you've invested in the national transitional council you certainly have to hand over the money to them you can't then say but we don't trust you to spend it correctly because then you are

verging on doing what the americans did in iraq which you're saying we could do we can organize iraq better than the iraqis do you trust them to make a point of doing it i think there's going to be. retribution i think there's going to be continued conflict in neighborhoods in. out lying regions of the country i think it's going to take a long time for the libyans to find their way to a completely different path. gadhafi invented was a very peculiar system it was supposed to be democracy for the masses with grassroots assemblies making the decisions it was nothing of the kind it was a dictatorship and those around the kernel operated out of fear as much as greed trying to suck up to him lots of people were implicated where do you draw the line who was too bad to be forgiven who needs prosecuting and will it be victor's justice or will it be the kind of

magnanimous justice that is about inclusiveness and building together now the libyans need to work all of that out in the meantime they've got to pay salaries to get the basic tasks of life including policing and the court system operating if during that period they are challenge to sign contracts with international companies and have to make decisions which end up reinforcing the role of the state in the commercial sector in the economy and include inducements from those companies to secure the contracts against the competition then we're back into the danger zone that this will not be a wholly transparent and one corrupt regime. the jury's out western leaders have stressed to the rebels the need to avoid revenge attacks and

the need for tolerance yet they've also said that nato airstrikes will continue for as long as gadhafi is a threat mixed messages well i know from my experience of. conversations with arabs in different parts of the arab world over many years that they never take the statements of the west at face value they always assume there's a hidden agenda and they positively expect. double standards so on this particular occasion it suits the rebels as well as the nato powers to fudge the truth about who's on the side of right and who's doing all the killing and what the consequences are but will this lead to revenge attacks already within the rebels rounding up sub-saharan black africans accusing them of being mercenaries that is appalling and there will be questions for the future of the economy how much i tender and labor do they need even the egyptians who were

working for the libyans before the revolution have had rough treatment and have gone home painted us people from east asia who've been in the same bind and you're seeing a version of racism and prejudice coming out against anybody who's black on suspicion that gadhafi recruited mercenaries from sub-saharan africa but. the truth is i'm mixture of things yes some mercenaries how witting how understanding they were of what they got involved in one doesn't know but that a lot of innocents are getting caught up in this absolutely but that is the nature of war and so despite what sarkozy and cameron and anybody else may wish to do to dress this up as a glorious rescue of the ordinary people against a vicious dictator in fact it's war and bad things happen in war

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a few chances to score the nickel after the break but it stays nailed meanwhile a victory for the home side would go a long way to ensuring russia qualify for their third straight european championships. in group b. slovakia could move the top of the table if they've been injured in a minute themselves haven't given up on the fruit while missing. and. now tennis where this year's u.s. open will set russians qualifying in the quarterfinals said lot of who's in seoul unfortunately not one of them after being knocked out by world number one current business let's keep. because it's over head looked to be in control midway through the match and leading for one in the second it was not the world's best for nothing the dane back to back opening round defeats in toronto and cincinnati right before the event stormed back in the second to take it seventy five and then left her

opponent no chance playing the decider six one and the match. the win was pretty strong out there today it came from. one side. yeah from one. of the ball going and from the other side you had to watch and. yeah. good luck there. yeah we've had a few of those before. here two years. mr was on the simple trick of his side one should conference just because people are in the last sixteen the russian losing to the italian veteran in their previous three grand slam meetings but the twenty year old putting on a five seven six three six for school i'm certain that over and over now this russian ladies with a chance to take the title at flushing meadows. for the next hurdle serena williams is looking in top form an advantage unable to stay in the game against

a huge global favorite losing six three six for the twenty nine year old. in three sets in their one previous career meeting. no djokovic. which have made grand slam history by seeing by setting up a clash with each other it's the first time in the open era that will face off in the quarterfinals of a major tournament joke which briefly caught off guard in the opening set of the last sixteen in county against alexander paul of the world number one in the group and nine ish to recover seven six six four six two ended up with a twenty four year old holding two zero lead over upcoming opponent. which had had it. but a federal will be sleeping this morning after his match with hand only started at midnights new york times that express dominated the argentine six one six two six love. needed. a long time and.

it was morning usual i mean it's not eight you know that can happen too but it's true it is extremely late other sports started it in the morning golf maybe rate. it is quite crazy how our. schedules change all the time with tennis players and makes sure it's really difficult to be on your game every single day. joel for a time going while halted surging local favorite modification an epic five sets at a twenty six year old seizing the initiative by saving three break points in the opener but fish took the next two sets before the frenchman sealed the decider six two. now the cliff diving season has ended with the red ball world series grand finale in ukraine russia. repping up his campaign in style as he claimed his soul staged picture of the year with the highest score ever in the sport's history he's

robert harding. see this was fillings that's why the sport's most prestigious competition the red world series keeps traveling all across the planet to discover new locations the hose they're taking events for the final stage of the season thirteen high flyers made their way to the swallows nest castle one of ukraine's main places of interest on the crimean shore of the black sea. there englishman. who entered the event as the newly crowned champion for stage wins in seeing the briton retain his world two weeks ago. and the men. in the world standings russia still. are doing sujan looking to claim their first event when it was

such an elite after the first three rounds of the competition. execution putting the burnished ahead a punt and then to the finals the top six now left to do battle in the shadow of the castle in retirement once again he's facing the back the so-called triple quad although. it was still the show at sunday's event demonstrating one of the hardest dives the sport has ever seen. with blind entry the russian entering the water with his head held high the outcome before the judges at even showed their scores at first till placed podium finish of the season but twenty seven year old and course of his career high over it turned out to be more than just a win claiming the highest total score the competition has ever seen. his

face. i know it's my first win but it's definitely the most precious one for me i'm second in the overall standings but here i've proved to be the package it's a very happy moment for me while i was. preparing for my dives it was kind of strange knowing that the pressure of the series was our everyone else is fighting for a place there isn't and i was just taken as an individual competition after winning the first two stages this year nine time world champion early on didn't get was forced to leave the conclusion due to injury but he's now recovered nearly twenty twelve season is gearing up to be one of the news really in the record. the workweek dubbing series twenty eleven have just come to know and with all the best efforts of the sport having taken their owners but the point is that each of those

who take part in this this will rise in competition can be safely called an outstanding sportsman. r.t. ukraine. and finally whatever goes up must come down and these guys make a living out of it the russian pressure must as recently dominated the european freefall style and ikarus to lending championships and. looks at the trials and tribulations faced by those high flying and fast landing competitors. ascending to cruising altitude of one thousand meters is followed by a swift freefall back down with virtually no margin of error the competitors are expected to land on a dime with a dead center sweet spot only two centimeters in diameter and while such consistent precision landings may seem far fetched to the uninitiated they're considered to be the fundamentals of the sport. of one who is every athlete must always learn the basics of their sport before going any further calculating

a jump is the most fundamental aspect of parachute sports and safety that's why i believe all youngsters should start with the classic parachuting discipline we've got kids coming in at sixteen years old some of who go on to become junior well champions by twenty. the individual acrobatics program meanwhile requires one to twist and turn in the air at an alarming rate and simply executing flashing chris movements is not enough either. the judges getting the opposite of bird's eye view for this event to see if participants can keep a straight of the trajectories possible while they perform the flips and like in every sport be a successful high flying daredevil requires a specific skill set and personality but if things. besides being brave i believe anyone participating in this will must be physically developed and have coordination fully wolf it will definitely help for insurance while playing billiards will help one make more precise landing calculations russian women

proving to be the bravest in serbia taking the overall honors and dominating fashion the czechs showed just a little bit more savvy than the russians in the men's event goal to win gold frenchwoman deborah planned for zero meanwhile said the world record for her lending persuasion six consecutive landings just one centimeter off putting her exactly where she wanted to be every time a total of seventeen countries taking to the skies but row. his main parachuting man hopes for more local support in getting high through the choice that humans have always had dreams of reaching for the skies and flying we created planes and rockets in the sport that we have today is another manifestation of that desire to fly hopefully our government will notice and help our efforts allowing us to raise our level of performance. and while the more grounded sport seem to get more exposure these daredevils are hoping this competition continues to take off in russia and worldwide event sikorsky r.t.

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