at least policy studies at city university in london rosemary thanks for speaking to r.t. so how well has the international community handled the libyan crisis will you make a distinction between the nato members some of whom are extremely proud of what's been achieved so far in libya and the broader international community who are adjusting to developments in libya and deciding to be on the side of the future though not every government around the world has yet recognized and accepted the national transitional council as the government so did they do the right thing to begin with i think the u.n. responded to an emergency the arab league made a plea for some sort of intervention to save the citizens of benghazi from massacre . but only over the last several months have we all realized the extent to which britain and france in particular nato in general basically entered the war

determined that the anti gadhafi side when there seems to be an assumption that the new government of libya will be automatically pro west and the old all contracts will just be renewed but is that really going to be the case do you think i'm not so sure that. the new libyan government will be pro-west there are three or four signals so far that they're very firmly nationalist for example they said they're not extraditing any libyan including abdel baset i'm a guy he who was convicted of the lockerbie bombing and the americans wanted. he's now close to death and living in tripoli and the national transitional council says that's where he stays the other signals are that they're talking about yes it would be nice to have u.n. help preparing for elections but no we don't want international observers there drawing a line where they think it should be drawn between what's there been. what international

help is useful for this is a good thing to think i think it's essential for the survival of the next new libyan government that they be seem to be more libyan than a tool of the west to the west realize that you think it how dangerous is this kind of scramble for influence it's a good question do western players realize that they are a kind of liability i think only with difficulty do they realize this they assume they've got the best interests of not only themselves but libyans to at heart and can be an amicable mutually beneficial understanding reached but yeah they talk about democracy in a way that suggests they can only see the western version the british government certainly has been very keen to stress that this will not be another iraq and that they've learned those lessons but do you think that's really the case have they really learned those lessons it seems that every political generation every generation of politicians thinks that they can achieve things that the previous one

didn't until they try. they won't say any different so cameron and tacos he took a massive gamble that they could pull something off in libya that would contrast with the disaster that was the intervention in iraq and you know have president sarkozy talking as though this is a template for future interventions whoa maybe but the cost in resources in manpower in struggle that is to come i mean there will have to be massive support in humanitarian terms in the near term there will be more fighting it is taking casualties and there's a lot of rebuilding to do and reconciliation between the factions and therefore it's not over and done with in terms of commitment of western.

time energy and resources how much potential is there for this to turn into another iraq is it on the right course now of course it's a cliche to say it but you know the comparisons can only be taken so far with iraq libya is a very different place and some calculations had to do with the fact that it seemed simpler to intervene in libya it was a smaller population spread out mostly along the coast with long exposed roads in between the main towns and cities that presented targets that nato aerial intervention looked capable of exploiting to good effect on the ground . how to say. what we hear about. various people from the m i six type sector but certainly special forces s.a.'s and so on operating on the ground. this is very much. a

kind of proxy war which must be extremely exciting and exhilarating at some level to be involved in so it's more likely it seems to me that in that sense the appetite for further interventions will exist as opposed to this is the template for. the triumph of humanitarianism over. warfare what about the national transitional council they've promised that within eighteen months they'll have a new constitution and elections is that possible well the lesson from. the other revolutions in the region and in egypt is that there is good reasons to delay elections if you think you can organize sensible heroine and different contrast with competing political parties if you have more time so it rather depends where people are going to vote as they. did in iraq in the initial

elections on name recognition or on sectarian loyalties in this case possibly in libya on tribal loyalties or rural urban divide. name recognition rather than choosing between different party platforms but an inclusive assembly to devise and choose and approve a constitution may not be such a bad thing the u.k. government is already sending ass's that they've run frozen but is that a little bit naive given what happened in iraq with a lot of money going missing i think it's essential if you've invested in the national transitional council you certainly have to hand over the money to them you can't then say but we don't trust you to spend it correctly because then you are verging on doing what the americans did in iraq which you're saying we could do we can organize iraq better than the iraqis do you trust them to make a point of doing it i think there's going to be retribution i think there's going

to be continued conflict in neighborhoods in. out lying regions of the country i think it's going to take a long time for the libyans to find their way to a completely different path look at duffy invented was a very peculiar system it was supposed to be democracy for the masses with grassroots assemblies making the decisions it was nothing of the kind it was a dictatorship and those around the colonel operated out of fear as much as green trying to suck up to him lots of people were implicated where do you draw the line who was too bad to be forgiven who needs prosecuting and will it be victor's justice or will it be the kind of magnanimous justice is about inclusiveness and building together now the libyans need to work. all of that out in the meantime they've got to pay salaries to get

the basic tasks of life including policing and the court system operating if during that period they are challenge just signed contracts with international companies and have to make decisions which end up reinforcing the role of the state in the commercial sector in the economy and include inducements from those companies to secure the contracts against the competition then we're back into the danger zone that this will not be a wholly transparent and one corrupt regime. the jury's out western leaders have stressed to the rebels the need to avoid revenge attacks and the need for tolerance yet they've also said that nato airstrikes will continue for as long as gadhafi is a threat messages well i know from my experience of. conversations

with arabs in different parts of the arab world over many years that they never take the statements of the west at face value they always assume there's a hidden agenda and they positively expect. double standards so on this particular occasion it suits the rebels as well as the nato powers to fudge the truth about who's on the side of right and who's doing all the killing and what the consequences are but will this lead to revenge attacks already within the rebels rounding up sub-saharan black africans accusing them of being mercenaries that is appalling and there will be questions for the future of the economy how much i tender and labor do they need even the egyptians who were working for the libyans before the revolution have had rough treatment and have gone home painted us. people from east asia have been in the same bind and you're

seeing a version of racism and prejudice coming out against anybody who's black on suspicion that gadhafi recruited mercenaries from sub-saharan africa but. the truth is a mixture of things yes some mercenaries how witting how understanding they were of what they got involved in one doesn't know but that a lot of innocents are getting caught up in this absolutely but that is the nature of war and so despite what sarkozy and cameron and anybody else may wish to do to dress this up as a glorious rescue of the ordinary people against a vicious dictator in fact it's war and bad things happen in war thank you.

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despite the plane still chances. pull dates on this is a full tank of advances into only her second grandson called final serena williams is up next for the russian in new york. and causing a splash russia's claims the highest scoring competition in history on the way to winning the final world seriously diving event of the season. but let's start with football where russia have been taken island in the euro two thousand to twelve qualifying campaign here in the russian capital russia dominated both hearts bigger got close to breaking the deadlock in the twenty first minute but the shot was saved by irish shake given. and the same man denied another some soft strike forty three minutes into the game after pinpoint pass from zurich cough. also had a few chances to score although extenuate goal is the irishman found their rhythm after the break points in the final minutes because the house back and attacked the

mood of the pick of the actions around us head out with one minute to go to go once again keeping it safe for the face to make fulton goal followed its own vain million how to end it many with russia still top of group. and stay close behind. and stuff like that could win the joint top of the table if they beat him there and then is themselves having given up on the route. both those games are now in progress and it's still goalless. not tennis where this year's u.s. open will set russians playing in the quarter finals and so unfortunately not one of them off to being knocked out by world number one current. had to be in control mid-way through the match sets up and leading for one in the second but there's nothing that isn't world's best for nothing dana but back opening round defeats in

toronto and cincinnati right before the event stormed back in the second set to take it seven five and left so you have no chance claimed the decider six one and the match the win was pretty strong out there today it came from from the back just went to one side and yeah i mean from once i really had to get through the ball to get going and from the other side you had to watch out not to play too deep but yeah i mean it was it's a massive battle out there. yeah we've had a few of those before so out here two years ago. if there was an honest a simple change of a side one should too gone from just because you don't want to in the last sixteen the russian losing today telling veteran in their previous three grandslam meetings but the twenty year old putting that right on a five seven six three six four scoreline so the over and above a chunk of a now this russian ladies with a chance to take the title at flushing meadows. full tank of his next hurdle threw

in a williams is looking in top form and evanovich unable to stay in the game against the overall favorite losing six three six for the twenty nine year old sort of a change in their one previous career. no good and young could tip survey which have made grand slam history by setting up a clash with each other it's the first time in the open air that will face off in the quarterfinals of a major tournament joke which briefly caught off guard to the opening set of his last sixteen encounter against alexander the poor of the world number one and managed to recover seventy six six four six two how tended the twenty four year old holds a two zero lead. over upcoming opponent to which he had told me to. go to federal will be slippery in this morning after his match with one monarch only

started at midnight sneer of triumph at express dominated the argentine six one six two six love. to offer its own gunmen while halted surging local favorite modification in an epic five set a twenty six year old seizing the initiative by saving three great thanks for the. next two sets before the french went through with the decider six two. the cliff diving season has ended with the red ball world series grand finale in ukraine russia's repping up his companion style as he claimed his sole state victory over the year with the highest score in the sport's history is robert ford in a. seek out of this world's feelings that's why the sport's most prestigious competition the red blue world series keeps traveling all across the planet to discover new

locations to hose their breath taking events for the final stage of the season thirteen high flyers made their way to the swallows nest castle one of ukraine's main places of interest on the crimean sure of the black sea all eyes were on the following pair englishman gary hunt who entered the event as the newly crowned champion for stage wins in a row seeing the briton retain his world title two weeks ago in boston and the men who sit second in the overall standings russia still crave diver or don't see who is looking to claim their first event when it was put to the lead up to the first three rounds of the competition lola's execution putting the vernice native ahead of punt and then to the files the top six now left to do battle in the shadow of the castle brooklyn bridge ton to once again unleashing he's facing the pack the

so-called triple quad although to assume who stole the show at sunday's event demonstrating one of the hardest dives the sport has ever seen back on stand with blunt entry the russian entering the water with his head held high the outcome clear before the judges had even showed their scores at first till placed podium finish of the season with a twenty seven year old and fourth of his career however it turned out to be more than just a win claiming the highest total score the competition has ever seen. his play. it's not my first win but it's definitely the most precious one for me i'm second in the overall standings but here i've proved to be the best it's a very happy mood for me while i was. preparing for my dives it was kind of strange knowing that the pressure of the series was our everyone else is

fighting for places and i was just taken as an indoor vidual competition after winning the first two stages this year nine time world champion early under to get was forced to leave the competition due to injury but he's now recovered leading the twenty twelve season is gearing up to be one of the most thrilling on record. the world cleaved irving series twenty eleven have just come to know and with all the best efforts of the sport having taken their owners but the point is that each of those who take part in this miss no rising competition can be safely called an outstanding sportsman. r.t. ukraine. and finally whatever goes up must come down and these guys make a living out of it their russian passion masters recently dominated the european freefall style and to curacao lending championships in serbia it was

a gorski looks at the trials and tribulations taste by those high flying and fast landing competitors. ascending to cruising altitude of one thousand meters is followed by a swift freefall back down with virtually no margin of error the competitor is expected to land on a dime with a dead center sweet spot only two centimeters in diameter and while such consistent precision landings may seem far fetched to the uninitiated they are considered to be the fundamentals of the sport. every athlete must always learn the basics of their sport before going any further calculating a jump is the most fundamental aspect of parachute sports and safety that's why i believe all youngsters should start with the classic parachuting discipline we've got kids coming in at sixteen years old some of who go on to become junior well champions by twenty. the individual acrobatics program meanwhile requires one to twist and turn in the air at an alarming rate and simply executing flashing chris

movements is not enough either. the judges getting the opposite of bird's eye view for this event to see if participants can keep a straight of a trajectory is possible while they perform the flips and like in every sport be a successful high flying daredevil requires a specific skill set and personality but if you wish both for fun besides being brave i believe anyone participating in the sport must be physically developed and have coordination fully wolf it will definitely help for insurance while playing billiards will help one make more precise landing calculations. russian women proving to be the bravest in serbia taking the overall honors and dominating fashion the czech showed just a little bit more savvy than the russians in the men's event goal to win gold frenchwoman deborah planned for zero meanwhile set the world record for her lending persuasion six consecutive landings just one centimeter off putting her exactly

where she wanted to be every time a total of seventeen countries taking to the skies but russia's main pray shooting men hopes for more local support in getting high from choice that we humans have always had dreams of reaching for the skies and flying we created planes and rockets in the school that we have today is another manifestation of that desire to fly safely our government will notice and help our efforts allowing us to raise our level of performance. and while the more grounded sports seem to get more exposure these daredevils are hoping this competition continues to take off in russia and worldwide event sikorsky r.t. ok that's all from me on the spot for now miles thanks.

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hundreds of thousands marched across italy and spain in protest of painful new austerity measures intended to pull southern europe out of its economic spiral. plus any business plan amir peretz and puts the finishing touches on the north korean cry point to start pumping gas to europe i'll have more on that in business in twenty minutes. just joined us this is a it's now eleven pm choose the evening here in moscow with me kevin owen and the syrian regime is accused of having more blood on its hands with government troops allegedly firing at demonstrators in the besieged city of homs that's ahead of the arab league chief's visit to damascus with a peace plan to try and solve the syria standoff.