yes with a peace plan to try and solve the syria standoff for the e.u. however sanctions are still the solution but as daniel bushell explains this slow introduction could backfire. william hague britain's foreign secretary says horrific scenes of brutality have forced this oil burner on syria but bizarrely sanctions won't start for over a month. but they will kick in all even europeans or all firms complete their supply contracts which. and oil fields developed by e.u. energy giants like french to toll on being touched from magnetic point of view because that sanctions would start. to go on with reduction of oil as a result the e.u. may end up subsidizing the regime they oppose the oil industry can use sixty day payment which means the e.u. could still be funding into next year if a list of crimes the horrific critics asked why the e.u. is putting profit above syrian lives. diplomats warn sanctions won't even hit the

mark they hurt ordinary people not the leadership they claim to target and most importantly europe's oil companies have to be on the shoulders of the syrian people while their companies out of protective the e.u. is also hurting itself in kicks but damascus will simply shifts a ploy to the competition if you look at syria. already the chinese authorities have said that they would by any count e.u. officials hope new stocks of the black gold from libya would take up the slack but they may be disappointed will not start being productive until maybe at the end of next year and if they were an embargo on syrian oil today of course they would be short. with the wall riggins colonel gadhafi taking much longer than the west expected you. because you know one supply before

a secured another the new push through for all to see in brussels. and we've been hearing tonight how history shows that often even the harshest sanctions fail to put regimes but that is nearly always the people who suffer the most in any case what happened whatever happens the sanctions are clearly. instrument that does not discriminate between the regime and the people and what may end up happening is that the people who probably are going to pay a price and the regime especially if we take a look at what happened in iraq or what happened with cuba. experiment is a very good example of this where some of the harshest sanctions are imposed on any country in history were imposed on iraq and despite that. did not succeed in bringing the regime down. the public which was

hurt severely as a result of the sanctions so this is. i think is going to raise a lot of questions especially some of them political some of the comic and some of course are more. tens of thousands of angry italians hit the streets nationwide on tuesday to protest the harsh new austerity package being debated in rome and number of violent scuffles between demonstrators and police are reported underlining the social tension as italy wrestles with its massive no italian will escape having to pay more sales tax is being raised but the government has bowed to some pressure by reviving the plan to impose higher taxes on the rich as one of europe's biggest economies its troubles threaten to destabilize the eurozone and spur you financial crisis meantime all this as across the. efforts to further rescue greece took a hit after athens admitted it won't be able to meet its deficit reduction deadline for the german economic analyst michael rossi believes it's very deadlines and cuts

that would be. doing. not only win win situation also means always cuts that means they cut the income of the poorer but the social welfare will be cut down and what you see here is the politicians promising many many things and this is the problem what we really heard from people in brazil also feel the pressure of the. big cannot fulfill their promises not paper they're written on what at the end of the day they will see that. not. make the situation even worse that means at the end of the day the whole experiment of the euro will go down with the insolvency of germany. well things a little better across spain with protesters flooding the capital after its parliament pressure and voted to amend the constitution to limit national debt the

senate voting about on wednesday but unions rights groups to fight it said the decimate the welfare system and the most vulnerable and if that is really political reports the country's predicament is leading some to take matters into their own. this was the last time i got him and had guests over at her house just a day after our team to visit she along with her fourteen year old son was evicted from the subsidized flat she called home for five years. i was fifteen days late with a payment i paid five hundred twenty four year zero and they still want to me even though i paid everything and it was months ago since then marie carmen has spent most of her time fighting to keep her apartment calm and collected with the pressure of losing a roof over her head caused mary carmen to suffer a heart attack but. these apartments should be distributed in such a way that people can afford to pay for them while they buy a lot of times they can't and i'm going to fight to make this type of housing more

affordable in. many carmen's case is not unique in spain the country's in employment rate of over twenty percent means needy people are simply unable to make their next mortgage payments in the past two years more than three hundred thousand people have been evicted from their homes as a result of spain's financial crisis this is where members of the fifteen m. movement come in. according to the international human rights convention every person has a right to decent housing. is inevitable they have to make sure people are not going to go homeless because you just can't kick them out on the street. they're going to say she is known as the indignados or. these staged protests by homes of those who are victims hoping to prevent court police and the police from entering sometimes they succeeded like with this woman who kept your house because fifteen m. interfered with process. security these are subsidized people who are in tough

situations financially and then also i cannot understand how they can evict people who cannot afford to buy their own homes. so far fifteen m. have managed to stop fifty victims of past crimes. unfortunately for my crime and in return they were powerless against every victim is the cement job and the people gathered here believe they are fighting social justice but some wonder whether the efforts of this group of people are enough to solve the problems within the spanish system itself in madrid. righty. one of the main purposes of choose days debt debated with trade was to send a message to markets that the government's serious about tackling its runaway finances but writer a journalist. believes it's those very markets that are responsible for spain's current predicament the markets are not rational and they are driven usually by fear sometimes by greed and they just think they feel that the spain could be like

greece or like ireland or like portugal because the fertile country within the euro so so they tend to lump together countries that are very different but they resemble each other because they are part of that periphery and i think that that's the real recently sets a psychological perception and then again it's true that the growth in spain economy growth is not very good so that in the long will be a problem for there but we don't have a debt problem now but we may have it in the future that is true. you watching our team from moscow a few minutes from now the fast fading friendship of turkey elections with israel six to a new low party here that could impact on palestinians hopes of getting u.n. recognition. that libyan rebels are detaining oil engineers and cooks from former soviet countries suspected he was being program daphne snipers to russians were later released along with the ukrainian couple after they managed to contact the

russian embassy but more than a dozen ukrainians are still being held tonight artie's were financial as in tripoli. well as far as we know thirty two people including two owners of the russian passport and also better russian and ukrainian citizens apparently working for the russian libyan all company here in tripoli engineers and kooks men and women have been arrested here in tripoli shortly after the rebels took the libyan capital and have been put into one of the rebels' training center here in the capital after they've been accused of been snipers of khadafi we have been able to speak to the detainees and they deny all allegations because of additional for some reason the thing that slavic people are snipers we have nothing to do with that we came here to earn money peacefully. these people say that they've been provided with food and water but some of them have been severely beaten and tortured by the rebels the russian embassy has actually managed to release two owners of the

russian passports and ukrainian couple but around twenty other ukrainians us to been held by the rebels here in tripoli the scope of the ukrainian embassy refused to take them they said they don't have running water they said that they don't have proper accommodation. they would be better to stink of syria see. what the latest what we are hearing from bani walid southeast of the capital tripoli where the fighting over it off is lost and main stronghold has been continuing in the last few days is that the rabble forces have reportedly reached a deal with the conductor's loyalists on the ground and to the city without fighting this information is yet to be confirmed but if the research deal if the research an agreement between the rebel forces and gadhafi forces belinelli that actually would mean a breakthrough and we also receiving reports that scores of the libyan army's vehicles have reportedly crossed the frontier border into niger and many believe

that gadhafi himself could also be in monday and could also have fled the country we are receiving these reports just hours after khadafi information to bring in has claimed that the embattled colonel is in the country and has no plans to leave it and it's time soon. you're a correspondent there. the man who headed up america's moves in iraq and afghanistan is now top dog at the cia general david petraeus spent thirty seven years as a soldier but is now at the pentagon after president obama's national security reshuffle his predecessor the impasse is now defense secretary to discuss this bring into the conversation how to go and she's assistant professor at new york's university gallatin school thanks for being with us it's appreciated now general petraeus was of course known for leading the country into iraq and afghanistan two very unpopular campaigns one of his new appointment tell us about the thinking of

the american decision makers right now that. yes well you say that the campaigns were very unpopular but petraeus got away with being a very popular general and i think that obama's appointment. as head of the cia reflects the sentiment that is a hero according to most of the american public so you think it's a good thing that he's been put in charge is a good movie oh no i don't but i think that it reflects obama's strategy. many people have been calling the war in afghanistan a counterinsurgency war and over the last year there's been a lot of evidence that at this strategy has been shifting from counterinsurgency a population centric ground war to a kill and capture strategy and so it makes sense to put the man who headed the counterinsurgency effort now into the head of the kill capture effort i don't think

that's a good idea but it does reflect the change in the obama administration's tactics and a very public emphasis on that change how do i want to what is going to bring to the party i mean to say i was very widely criticized for in secret prisons and drone attacks that claimed the lives of thousands of civilians do you think things are going to change with a new man of the hill no i certainly don't i think that. has in many ways been working with the defense department and leon panetta as the cia has amped up its drone war and i think we'll see more of that to come under later ship at the cia on the other hand many actual intelligence officers who have come out to many of whom left including michael show our who was in charge of the intelligence effort to get bin ladin after nine eleven have criticized these drone wars and the covert operations that seem to be really happening.

in two thousand and eleven in particular what exactly i mean you know following all of what you say the general portrays courtship of the u.s. should not have bothered its counterinsurgency policy that's of course costing taxpayers millions of dollars this is a time of the world's face an economic hardship particular america you say has been pride is a hero till now but how does that going to go down with the public. well what i think one of the selling points if the eye is roll is that kill capture missions do not involve large scale land trips it's not a large scale ground war anymore and afghanistan instead it's these stealthy drones that are supposedly very precise in killing insurgents and top al qaeda operatives but the problem is that in the process a lot of innocent civilians are dying and. polls come out in pakistan showing

quite negative perception of these drone wars in the u.s. . perhaps this will not be a hero but right now i think many americans are happy to hear that perhaps as soldiers you were soldiers will be involved in these quite devastating conflicts i was talking. to retired u.s. air force lieutenant colonel. she said when i asked one of the u.s. public wake of this point of the cia she said they probably don't really care because too many things to worry about is a fair assessment i think that is a fair assessment i think. devastating economy dominates the headlines that wars are increasingly invisible to the american public and i think that that's a big problem i just want to quickly ask you before we run out of time you know these documents being discovered almost daily in libya showing the cia's involvement of alleged illegal rendition of suspects to think this will maintain

the wall of silence we've heard so far or do you think he'll bring us more of the real. i think that petraeus will try to continue to try to give us a sense that we're getting more transparency in the cia we. sort of similar tactics says he led counterinsurgency in iraq and afghanistan a sort of mood of openness but in fact. when you actually ask petraeus hard questions he does not give very transparent answers so again i think it will be a combination. of performance of transparency but in fact i think it will be more of the same the cia has never been a transparent organization and it never will be one or a really good of a program to learn how to go an assistant professor at new york university's gallatin school thank you thank you for having me. the council of europe's legal committee is closer to the swiss claims that fourteen european countries allegedly allowed the cia to operate secret prisons on their soil the report by. dick marty

says that u.s. actions in those detention centers violated basic human rights and torture was widely used chief human rights commission is already poland lithuania and romania to come clean about their roles and told r.t. that countries need to decide if intelligence ties are more important than human rights there is an enormous pressure from washington to keep all this secret in fact instructions from from cia with the support of the way tell us not to give any facts on this so therefore it's not easy to investigate but i think some of the european governments who have been involved they have to decide whether they sink the corporation between the security agencies are more important than to. look into human rights violations and break the ice for you know impunity. israel and turkey former friendly relations or withering fast turkey suspending all trade military

and defense ties of the probably just as threatening more sanctions against israel and a visit to go as a result really expelled israeli diplomats over the refusal to apologize for killing nine eight activists in last year's gaza flotilla raid artie's mideast correspondent paula slee is following the latest for you would tell of you. the turkish prime minister other one has announced that he could be slapping more sanctions on television this follows the release last week of a united nations report into what happened on board the. now that was a turkish missile that took part in the first the tiller attempt to break the israeli siege on gaza some one and a half years ago and often israeli soldiers stormed the ship some nine turkish citizens were killed israel has repeatedly refused to apologize for the deaths and in response and korea has expelled the israeli ambassador it has downgraded diplomatic relations between both countries to the level of second secretary and it's also frozen all military cooperation the turkish prime minister used the word

savagely when he referred to the israeli behavior he also accused israel of behaving like a spoilt boy in the region and he said that the turks would challenge israeli bullying in the mediterranean by increasing the naval presence there the turkish government has also rejected another finding of a un palmer report which said that the israeli blockade on gaza was not illegal with the turkish government saying that it would now lobby that with the international criminal court in the hague we've heard from the turkish foreign minister who held a press briefing with the top official now bill shaath in which he said that the turks had a campaign underway to help the palestinians be successful in they've come september the twentieth for a palestinian state now this is no surprise because for several months turkey has indicated that it is supporting the palestinians it is also indicated that it is embarking on a diplomatic campaign to help them in their struggle the official response from the

israeli defense minister ministry is that turkey has a lot to lose but most people here really are questioning what israel is going to do because this is a crucial time when israel needs all the friends it can have particularly ahead of this u.n. bed which of course israel is against you need to remember. that turkey was israel's closest ally in the region and relationships between israel and turkey are at the lowest they've been in more than twenty years and certainly seen the same between tel aviv and cairo where relations between israel and egypt are also now at an all time low. morning for us there i'll be back with a recap of the top stories here on r.t. in about ten minutes time twixt now and then more insight into what's happening in libya with a meeting middle east analyst in artie's latest interview. i'm

joined by rosemary hollis the professor of middle east policy studies at city university in london rosemary thanks for speaking to r.t. so how well has the international community handled the libyan crisis will you make a distinction between the nato members some of whom are extremely proud of what's been achieved so far in libya and the broader international community who are adjusting to developments in libya and deciding to be on the side of the future though not every government around the world has yet recognized and accepted the national transitional council as the government so did they do the right thing to begin with i think the u.n.

responded to an emergency the arab league made a plea for some sort of intervention to save the citizens of benghazi from massacre . but only over the last several months have we all realized the extent to which britain and france in particular nato in general basically entered the war determined that the anti gadhafi side when there seems to be an assumption that the new government of libya will be automatically pro west and the old contracts will. just be renewed but is that really going to be the case do you think i'm not so sure that. the new libyan government will be pro-west there are three or four signals so far that they're very firmly nationalist for example they said they're not extraditing any libyan including abdel baset or mcgahee who was convicted of the lockerbie bombing and the americans wanted. he's now close to death and living

in tripoli and the national transitional council says that's where he stays the other signals are that they're talking about yes it would be nice to have u.n. help preparing for elections but no we don't want international observers there drawing a line where they think it should be drawn between what's their business and what international help is useful for this is a good thing to think i think it's essential for the survival of the next new libyan government that they be seem to be more libyan than a tool of the west how much potential is there for this to turn into another iraq is it on the right course now of course it's a cliche to say it but you know the comparisons can only be taken so far with iraq libya is a very different place and some calculations had to do with the fact that it seemed simpler to intervene in libya it was a small population spread out mostly along the coast with long exposed

roads in between the main towns and cities that presented targets that nato aerial intervention looked capable of exploiting to good effect on the ground . how to say. what we hear about. various people from the m i six type sector but certainly special forces s.a.'s and so on operating on the ground. this is very much. a kind of proxy war which must be extremely exciting and exhilarating at some level to be involved in so it's more likely it seems to me that in that sense the appetite for further interventions will exist as opposed to this is the template for. the triumph of humanitarianism over. warfare what about the national

transitional council they've promised that within eighteen months they'll have a new constitution and elections is that possible well the lesson from. the other revolutions in the region and egypt is that there's good reasons to delay elections if you think you can organize sensible heroine and different contrast with the painting political parties if you have more time so it rather depends where people are going to vote as they did in iraq in the initial elections on name recognition or on sectarian loyalty as in this case possibly in libya on tribal loyalties all rural urban divide. name recognition rather than choosing between different party platforms but an inclusive assembly to devise and choose and approve

a constitution may not be such a bad thing western leaders have stressed to the rebels the need to avoid revenge attacks and the need for tolerance yet they've also said that nato airstrikes will continue for as long as gadhafi is a threat. messages well i know from my experience of. conversations with arabs in different parts of the arab world over many years that they never take the statements of the west at face value they always assume that and and they positively expect. standards so on this particular occasion it suits the rebels as well as sin nato powers to fudge the truth about who's on the side of right and who's doing all the killing and what the consequences are. thank you.

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