for. into that only it would be mechanisms that do the work to bring justice or accountability. i have every right to know what my government would you want to know why i paid taxes. but i would characterize obama as a charismatic version of american exceptionalism. you

know sometimes you see a story and it seems so for sleep you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else and here's some other part of it to realize that everything is all. right guys it's time for show and tell on tonight's program last time we took a page from our interview with republican presidential candidate by mark he explained that he has kept his campaign contributions at one hundred dollars so that no special interests can or fear with his political message so should americans be limited in how much they can delineate the political campaigns is going to produce a picture even a century to find out what you have to say so when it comes to campaign financing well there's individual money public money political. party money hard money soft

money matching funds political action committees and t.v. advertising paid and promotions paid for by outside groups corporations and labor unions with their own agenda in fact in two thousand and eight president obama agrees and spends about seven hundred fifty million dollars and many analysts are convinced he will raise close to one billion dollars or twenty twelve this at a time when bill estate values are still down and unemployment remains stubbornly high it just looks a little odd in the economy that has been going down that political contributions while they keep going up and makes you wonder if politicians are only serving those that can afford it so do any of our viewers think we need to put limits on how much money americans can donate to elections germy said absolutely all the candidates should follow buddy grammars example and not accept donations greater than one hundred dollars bill had a good idea he said all contributions should go into a public pool and all lections should then be publicly financed kyl said how

they're no good nations we also received some input from miles in new zealand who wanted us to know that in his country the amount of there not people can donate to a political party or candidate and how much they spend is worth it all miles i may never have looked that way to you but in this country where you sat similar restrictions kind of makes you wonder with campaign finance laws decimated since citizens united ruling the office of president is starting to look more and more like the auction for the highest bidder maybe buddy roemer has the right idea after all. now as always we thank you for your responses and here's our next question for you just mentioned interview on the economic and political turmoil which has rocked the european union to its core we want to know your thoughts on these you do you think of the european european union as we know it will survive in the next couple of years you can respond to us on facebook twitter and you tube as you know is your response to just like me. now over the. next week we're going to be seeing

a lot of coverage leading up to the tenth anniversary of the nine eleven attacks and we'll mostly see and hear arguments that ten years on or say for sure we may be involved in a few costly wars overseas and sure our civil liberties may have been eroded but at the end of the day there hasn't been another major attack on our soil so thanks for all of it all tonight we're going to look at exactly the opposite argument we're going to ask it ten years later and even after the death of bin laden if we're still losing this so-called war on terrorism from our bloated military and intelligence budgets are exploding that's our motional reactions and over reactions and i guess one argues that perhaps the biggest mistake our country made in the wake of nine eleven was not knowing our enemy not understanding the strategy of al qaeda to morally and financially but he guessed right joining me from our studio in new york to discuss that is that the garden in ross author of bin laden's legacy why we're still losing the war on terror and if you want to thank you so much for joining us tonight and i guess for starters let's just start with the really simple

question as is part of the title on your book why are we still losing the war on terror. i think that we have to understand security is to see security as our capabilities to defend ourselves and our resilience in the face of an attack versus the enemy's capacity to attack us i think if we look at it that way and look at where the united states is ten years after the nine eleven attacks it's a significantly degraded country now obviously not all of that is due to the fight against terrorism you have a number of things that are unrelated that problem like the subprime mortgage crisis the explosion in health care costs as well as the research the era of resource scarcity they were entering into but despite that the costs that we've spent of our fight against terrorism have been enormous and in many ways it's exactly. the same place to us in harm's way with respect to al qaeda strategy by giving them a bloated system if they can attack. now the thing is about the strategy here if

you want to talk about like i mentioned bleeding the country dry wood it comes through nearly bankrupt. morally doing the same thing if you look at guantanamo bay and some of the remnants of what's happened in the war on terror of the last ten years it's not like that was a secret these are things that we heard bin laden say on on videotapes i just don't understand how is it that the government missed that. i think in many ways we got trapped by the term terrorism i mean i thought that our understanding of the enemy was rather poor coming into the writing of this book but i was actually surprised that in my view it was indeed much much worse than i expected looking through key documents the national military strategic plan for the war on terror the white house's national strategy for combating terrorism today at eleven commission report very basic analyses that one should do when confronted enemy and read because military resources simply weren't performed for al qaeda we differ had an ends ways and means assessment of this enemy that is what ends al qaeda pursuing and what are

the ways in which it ways and means by which they want to achieve those goals there was a focus on their goal of establishing a caliphate and their tactic of terrorism but there was this unresolved disconnect between that goal and their tactics if you look at bin laden's both biography and also his public statements it's very clear that he had the economy and made even before the nine eleven attacks i have to say that in terms of our overall strategic assessment i think that it that was an area where we've had a clear failure for the past decade now of course we have to remember that there was a financial crash and you mentioned the subprime mortgage crisis and we that wasn't because of al qaeda but this has contributed to our debt trillions of dollars in fact of spending now there are has been on our record because of these wars that we waged but you know i also wonder. you bring up the fight between a mohammed ali and george foreman in one nine hundred seventy four as

a way to look at the way that we've been fighting against al qaida or against terrorism globally we explain that a little bit more in the last. year the reason i go with this is because there's actually an academic article in the journal international security published just a few months before nine eleven it was called how the weak win wars and the analogy it used for how a small non-state actor. could defeat or undermine a power like the united states is precisely like that this was a fate in nine hundred seventy four when george foreman was the strongest most powerful boxer of his generation he was heavily favored gets muhammad ali and what ali ended up doing in that fate is cowardly against the ropes and sometimes he even whisper a horse tops towards george foreman saying george. george you disappoint me foreman did is unleashed a furious flurry of blows against muhammad ali and to the crowd that was watching and to form of himself it almost certainly seemed that foreman was winning the

fight because he punched in the punch knew punch what they didn't realize is that the elastic ropes were actually absorbing the majority of the blows and so foreman succeeded in tiring himself out of then in the eighth round muhammad ali and up to him out what this article in international security argues is that this is how the weak win wars that you turn the stronger opponents strength against it so that the harder it hits the more ramped up it becomes the more it's simply exhausted so in resources and while it is certainly hasn't fully replicated muhammad on the successful strategy it's actually a very good analogy for what has happened over the course of the past ten years which is one reason incidentally why i have such a problem with the current talk about al-qaeda being on the ropes because one could argue based on that analogy that they've actually been on the ropes for quite some time and they don't necessarily mind being there. well yeah that is something that we've heard actually repeated numerous times by countless officials including leon

panetta including general petraeus to they said that at one point there were only about one hundred al qaeda left and all of afghanistan now i think most recent statement coming from leon panetta is that there are maybe two dozen al qaeda members left tops that you think that there is part of you know there are other networks out there you can go to somalia look at as al qaeda in the arabian peninsula is all kind of more a mentality more of a you know a certain strategy rather than just counting how many figures there are but i think the group actually matters a great deal and part of that deals with kind of how this has been framed has been framed as a strategic challenge to the united states and if you're dealing with a number of individuals who have a radical idiology then that's a problem you have to deal with you still have to deal with that that threat of terrorism but overall i think it's the organization and the ability to have safe space where you can plan attacks we can communicate that really matters a agree with you know us of the nine eleven commission report which is that for carry out a catastrophic strike like the nine eleven attacks having

a seat haven like al qaeda had afghanistan prior to nine eleven is really quite critical though you mentioned somalia and you just looking at the world and the geography of where this militant group is ten years ago it had one seafood in afghanistan today they have a safe haven in southern somalia they have safe haven in parts of yemen parts of pakistan also in northern mali so to me when you look at just the basic facts of where the network is not necessarily just the central leadership which i do believe at least for the moment is in a degraded state but when you look at where the affiliates are and groups that are threatening states or pledge their allegiance to al qaeda they're in more places now than they were a decade ago which in part indicates that we can't be you so quick to declare that victory is just around the corner. now if we go back to this emotional aspect to you said that interviewing a lot of these documents you realize how utterly unprepared we were how there wasn't a strategy here but this is something that we've seen

a lot and i wonder if you think that it's something that's getting worse if we talk about as well as the conflict in libya that we got ourselves involved in where the president got involved in unilaterally there was no real end game there no strategy it was a humanitarian intervention now of course we know that it's very obvious that they wanted a market off the out but so is that little problem that still plagues us does this mean that we're going to lose the fight like george foreman did. i don't know if we'll lose and certainly i hope not i'm very invested in the united states i believe in the country and part of what i do professionally is trying to advance u.s. interests but. i agree about libya both that it was rather premature decision and also i have kind of a broader strategic problem with that intervention which is that it's it was in a part of the world to a neighborhood of the world if you will in which we had a lot of very strong strategic interests we have strong strategic interests in yemen in pakistan in afghanistan iraq somalia i mean these are there are difficult

and the cell these are difficult places to deal with libya was a place where the you were the u.s. had almost no strategic addressed at the time that it started bombing i agree actually with many of the advocates of the libya intervention that there are could have been a very real humanitarian crisis on our hands in libya but i also don't think it's the us israel or the roles of certain other countries either to solve every humanitarian crisis that could be out there indeed if you try to do so you end up expanding so many resources that you undermine your own ability to act in the future so i think that libya was an example of humanitarian intervention in which u.s. national interest didn't play the kind of role in a conversation that i would have liked obviously the story isn't fully told why hope for the best there if things end up going south of the t.n.c. and not being what a lot of people in the u.s. thought they would be if there's

a strong insurgency on the ground all of these could make this libya intervention which is very celebrated right now look much worse say six months a year or two years from now and let me again say i hope that's not the case but i do have concerns based on our past experience that we paid insufficient attention to the law of unintended consequence and smell are definitely not a lot of questions that need to be asked there to be i want to thank you so much for joining us tonight. my pleasure. i sort of come here on a visit in may to present a one state says the up the up parts but i'm one that mark will find segment that happy hour a judge orders a man the papers a life for lack of sex last ron paul is a dead president and a former vice president go after rick perry stick around for the epic campaign out of the. internet only at military mechanisms to do the work to bring justice and accountability. i have

every right to know what my government should do if you want to know why i paid taxes. well i would characterize obama as a charismatic version of american exceptionalism. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so poorly please if you understand it and then you glimpse something else here's some other part of it and realized everything you thought you knew you don't charge for the big picture. let's not forget that we had an apartheid regime right.

i think. either one well. we have the government says they're for keeping us safe get ready because you give them your freedom.

all right it's time for tonight's told time award that's not goes to arizona lawmakers now if you haven't heard arizona's try a new trick to raise the money for their state and how they can raise that cash well by going after people who visit prison inmates arizona is the first state in the country to charge people to visit inmates a fee twenty five dollars it's called have a background check see i own is now charging anybody who visits a prisoner out of the state fifteen run complex's a twenty five dollar background check be taken to the new york times the one time fee is believed to be the first of its kind of nation oh arizona a state of uniformly bad now as you can imagine this move people upset two lawsuits have been filed by prison advocacy groups after complaints from inmates families and critics of the speech say that it's going to have

a negative impact on the inmates. critics say it's a bad idea because it discourages people from visiting family members while they're locked up and having strong community ties is one of the best way to make sure people don't reoffend when they get out. so i don't know do you think arizona law makers actually put any real thought into this bill not only is there a twenty five dollars fee but the state is now charging a one percent deposits made to prisoners a spending account and times must be really hard and arizona lawmakers go after the spending accounts of prisoners now the new york times asked that you staffer the arizona senate wendy baldo about this we see said that the money really wasn't going for background checks instead it would be used for maintenance projects in prisons since the state of the budget for the corrections department so this fee is really a tax so is this true a hot topic in arizona they do have a pretty strong anti-tax movement there so are residents upset are they sympathetic to the inmates and their families well not really the state is doing what it means

to do to help with the cost be mad at the person who's sitting behind bars off the street and i want to read an e-mail that someone sent in glenda hargrove of prescott valley she says i do believe a prisoner should not have visitors but if they do allow the visitors then they should charge heavy fines the state has paid to have the person arrested in court fees and then the incarceration they are being punished do we forget that they gave up their rights when they committed the crime i'm tired of paying paying paying with no increase in social security and people losing their jobs and homes when is the free stuff going to stop. little harsh well here's some info for arizona residents the reason that your present system costs so much is the state currently requires all prisoners to serve at least eighty five percent of their sentences are not parole some of the forty thousand prisoners in your state senator let the nonviolent people out early i bet that that would favor state quite a bit of money but instead you're lawmakers would rather come up with taxes i mean

fees to charge people who are just visiting family members or friends that are in jail and lawmakers see this is an easy fix because this fee would target an unpopular group clearly but really it's an unconstitutional special tax on a certain group and that's why it's being challenged in court so we're taking advantage of their prison population and a cheap money making scheme or giving to arizona lawmakers who voted for this measure and i told him don't worry. ok time for happy hour and joining me tonight is our chief producer jenny churchill and out of the nani heard on the hill reporter for roll call thanks for joining me ladies. so it's i guess some people are saying that now that it's past labor day now that summer's over the real campaign season has begun what you could have fooled me because i've literally heard nothing else on t.v. lately except for campaign talk anyway now the real campaign season has begun let's

take a look at the latest ad coming from ron paul. the instant you shouldn't call him sixty three electable. it was the wrong man for the job it's well you're young turks in green ron paul was one of the congressmen to endorse ronald reagan's campaign for president america most recently trust no texas truly. is still with great. ron paul is really coming up with some epic ad lately and we played some other ones on this show but i mean i don't i kind of like that strategy right because the one thing that we always hear from every republican candidate is them harking back to ron paul as the godfather and get i mean it's going to get. my eyeballs but the thing is that paul was one of only four of congressmen to endorse ronald reagan when he first ran for a little brother in your face style right back in two thousand and seven right

didn't come didn't come out and say something about ronald reagan being a failure yet we've got this like poor paragraph document but the important thing here is there's the doing deals you know whatever but they're still going things here one is that ron paul is actually running for president he has a smear campaign which he didn't do last time and the other is people are actually taking him seriously perry came out with this. big long statement about ron paul came out against reagan and people are starting to take notice i think the more interesting thing is is what this is going to do to perry's campaign like what the allegations are going to do if anything i don't know what do you see i think that kind of you know that's been out there for a while i feel like you know a lot of people have tried to throw that at perry before for supporting al gore like even before he announced he was one of the talking points as to what might be a problem during his campaigning but isn't black and white and set to slow dramatic that he didn't have her at it by the way if you just close your eyes it's the most

spectacular thing it's like it's like a movie preview i'm sure that there are a lot of ron paul supporters but you know played before they quit that night when i did call him the one again it was in the context of a sudden says time so the one i love it right now it was story to just this one just cracks me up and apparently cracks up the rest of the relatives i've seen on so many of these sites a frenchman has been ordered to pay out about fourteen thousand dollars to his ex-wife who is divorcing him for a lack of sex over twenty one years of marriage now what happened here is that they have an article in france a civil code that states that marries cup married couples must agree to a shared communal life and so what the judge did is interpret that as saying that sex is part of that shared communal life because if you're married then you automatically you undoubtedly are having sex i feel like i've always heard the exact thing about marriage i don't know if you want to marry again but is that once you get married or once you get married you stop having any thoughts i think the twenty one years is the amusing part or to go to twenty one years which made me

think how come they didn't say anything about him did he cheat did they have that sort of does not mean that i you know he said ok if you're going to sue for your partner not having sex if you don't wait twenty one years discredits you a little bit also could she make him look and feel any worse. like i was leaving you oh and i'm suing you because. he was the break he blames it on health problems and tiredness and as i read what i hear is and they. had headaches i guess but the wife always the one that's responsible for the headaches that came up really i thought that's pretty hilarious i feel like only in france but i also feel like maybe she deserved to know the money to know nothing oh they know the money not only. that i think you've got to work that out on your own i'm not really sure of the for the courts to decide because i never did know how there you're now how much was it that she had to go elsewhere for sex and that was the cause either as

you can split open yourself me now you know easier i know you know you just scratching the surface every. story ok does an autism thing where really this is really affecting quite a few people that there are no more space shows right now befall twenty eleven season is the first time that there has been no t.v. show on any network featuring people on spaceships since it probably made one nine hundred eighty s. now there are a couple animated shows out there but no live action and this is a really huge deal and some people are saying that you know this is this is the end of nasa this means the end for space exploration but it's really because we're just obsessed with new crap like this. if you have strict rules of the six you see.

i just have to wonder you know for a while there there was just so much hope for humanity for the future of the space exploration who know it was a reaching the final here and now it's like forget it you know we're done and there's no hope for this race so now we just show the biggest degenerates that we have on t.v. fighting each other and trying to sort of crash things. back or you know we have you know the humanity. you know i mean i think i found a solution and this is a way to keep notes in business to get space shows back on television we have to do reality space and send all of those people just for the planet like people telling america they were going out now that's going commercial you know face travel i bet you could probably get a virgin tell ya like maybe spend it send a new reality star jersey shore season fourteen jersey shore on the way it was floating now after all we know.

they're going gravity zone for some reason that just kind of creeps me out a little bit. but i just really these days you have you like locked up you have all the c.s.i. eyes on the cop dramas you have things that are just complete fantasy all the vampire shows out there you know you have game of thrones you want to go back to these fantasy dark ages but i don't see how to be fair there are reality based shows like ancient alley ends which you know kind of looks at whether or not aliens came here in the past and that's what we think are gods anyway so she was a great great reviews and great gratings and actually one one night they even be closer to rehab i think i might actually check that one out are you guys. thanks for joining me tonight and that's a pretty night so thanks for joining animation we come back tomorrow on the past we've talked to people trying to make christianity hit her sexy some are going to talk to paul copland daughter of a know more christian nice guy he's part of a movement according to make over jesus and the ultimate macho man now in the meantime they're getting from the family

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