hope here in your slow that there will in fact continue to be two survivors there both make it out of this like you said a lot of people saw this crash happen from here on the ground a lot of different accounts of how it all happened let's listen to some of the people we spoke to about what they saw when things went very wrong on that yacht forty two. operative name on the possible someone at the after the plane took off i heard a noise like two comes colliding several seconds later we had another bang then the plane started leaning to the right after we heard the second bang the plane suddenly dived and hit the ground i didn't see it hit the ground but we saw that it's tell you. the plane broke into to newark. we heard of plane takeoff so we told our granddaughter look there's going to be an airplane then i heard a bang and my daughter told me mom oh it's falling down to the side then came the flames and the smoke and we wanted to run away but we didn't know where to run then we went to the river and saw the plane which was. come on you know look i'm

a chief is my home team who supported in the middle of this team who were shocked when we found out who went to all of the games knew all of them by name three i'm sorry difficultly. now emergency crews working well into the night here to try to recover any remaining bodies so far thirty five of them have been found in the first couple of hours after the accident in fact very quickly a lot of those vice were found it has to be said though within the last two hours or so that number hasn't gone up which of course is a scary thing we talked to investigators they hope that by dawn they'll be able to find the rest of those bodies it's dark it's cold most of that plane is in the water so this is a very tough situation for the men out here trying to find the rest of those bodies we know that specialists are coming in from moscow with lights and other equipment to try to help the situation but it's going to be a long night searching for the rest of the. bonnie's here in your islam people were

taking pictures very all early on of the same we saw the one you choose. we saw the plane basically in flames in a couple of pieces in the volga river they can just paint a picture for us what happened the various stories coming through we have no i wouldn't so we don't send the plane broke into we're hearing other official reports on the plane broke in three two of those parts of the fusion was ended up in the river what more do we know about what actually happened physically there and how close is the river to that airport. the airport is about a kilometer from where i'm standing in the crash site just behind me here so very close to the river it's a big river like i said most of the plane in that river and that's what the search effort is it's about the water it's about getting down under there and trying to find these bodies very different stories about how that happened you heard from those witnesses there the most common one that we're hearing now that the most repeated is that there was some kind of difficulty gaining altitude and that the

plane crashed into some kind of antenna and then fell into the river we're hearing very different stories about whether it was tilting on its right on its left and the latest version that we're hearing report that i've heard is that the. air traffic controllers who were on the ground it's reported are saying that from what they saw it looks like the pilot could have actually begun his takeoff too late so overrun the runway in the sense on takeoff so that's another thing and again investigators are looking very much into this we can confirm though that the for the fleet of the forty two has been grounded by its very vague we don't know for how long or if that is just until the investigation is completed and figure out what exactly went wrong if there's going to be a big debate on whether or not these old soviet planes soon be flying with this tragedy happening but we do know we can confirm that. forty two is will not be flying it till investigators find out what exactly happened. there are nearly

a hundred still in service who do we know about the forty two fleet it depends who you talk to spoke one part of the earlier on saying these planes they're pretty robust ok they are an old model by having been built for a while but if the service ok they're pretty near enough airworthy that's what you'll get any service from and talk to you know in the army or the navy they'll say the equipment live got of its service probably. is good is better than maybe some some new stuff when we know about the yet forty two machine. well that's what i've heard if you speak to any experts will say is is any plane can really run for three decades if it's kept up well but i think what investors are going to be looking into is first of all they're investigating the airline that was in charge of this flight first of all for any checks that might have been missed but in general like i said there's a big debate on whether or not these old planes should be flying. and this is just going to continue with this latest tragedy we know that it's

a very safe plane the experts we've spoken to say that if it's kept up well it can certainly still be flying and it might not very well be the actual plane that was the cause of the accident human factor is always something that is looked into when these accidents occur because almost much more importantly to know the human side of this the the human toll of it all foods with the family the friends of those poor souls of the parish and there's been a huge turnout it's not and. it's quite a sight hundreds if not thousands of people out on the streets of the center of the city in their jaroslav will look for more to scarves. and. carrying candles flowers screaming we love you will miss you and this is just an awful tragedy and you can feel that on the streets of yours level to see people going to try to make our way into the center within the next couple of hours and see what's happening but from what we're seeing in the pictures that we've been filming there just hundreds if not thousands of people to. steroid here in your

assault by this tragedy which by the way is certainly not just a russian tragedy we know several embassies have confirmed including the swedish slovakian as well as the czech republic and that their nationals were on that flight the head coach a canadian brad mccrimmon on that plane fifty two he is confirmed to have died as well and of course such a double blow in such a tragedy these old young men do. you know who are it's an awful it's an awful thing memorials and tributes been pouring in it is just can you outline for people maybe just tuning in to us who don't quite get why how important it is here in russia how important it was a team like this first of all to his home city jaros but also you know to ice hockey fans across russia or how important is ice hockey in the country. but i psyche as far as i understand it from the people i've been speaking to was huge in

soviet times and the soviet teams were excellent and it kind of got lost in the ninety's during all that turbulence and just recently it's become really big again so it's really a piece of national pride and the people we've been speaking to said i have to admit i'm not a big follower of russian ice hockey but the people we've spoken to the fans were really proud of this team they were apparently a very good team and the fact that the entire team almost was wiped out in this one tragedy is just such a harsh blow to your is liable and to sport it is like you said sports writer of russian sports history greatest tragedy and this is what i think it looks like this is going to go down in history for just being just an awful hit to the country's sport and to his people and it's now i think you bring your so the up to date with what you know at the scene there let's talk now to a sports correspondent i think initially what he said at the you know russia is this is no already being regarded as russia's worst sporting tragedy is being very deeply felt. cross the country isn't it. because the sheer number of people the

sheer generation the squad is completely gone with the exception of alexander critically ill. it's not the first so it is a surprise that it's not also it has we would do some research on this and several colleagues pointed this out to me as well about that back to court practical disaster which happened in one nine hundred seventy nine but the court was what is now and respected which is part of the soviet union and was promoted to the top flight in august one thousand seventy nine and then ironically in much the same way i was flying again to two minutes to play dinallo minsk the football the elements this time around in a top flight match at this particular point of the plane didn't go down it had a mid-air collision seventeen players and officials died one hundred fifty people overall in both flights died a terrible tragedy and from that the we also been talking about how how the teams carry on how how the city can carry on having lost we can see the pictures there of the families how devastated they can be in this particular instance practical all

the other teams within the top flight a voluntary player went to play for them and this is something that might as it's been suggested by commentators like alexander because mark and another famous sports commentators across russia that perhaps some of the other i spoke to really not so sure that would be welcome to be so many international hockey stars approaching their lives with this one disaster in the shock of these tragedies not just being felt here in russia because you mentioned the coach a canadian you know a lot of international players there too absolutely looking across on the roster is so sad to read you have we have checked stars carol you know young manic travels and we have slovakia you want it is an international tragedy the k h l russia's hockey league in much the same way that the n.h.l. does in america attracts players from all the way around the world we have at least eight or nine nationalities international playing playing countries within this one team which is truly an international disaster thank you. well look we've got to

comment we're going to bring some comment from alexander medvedev but let's let's bring in an alexander medvedev shall we he had some comment to say earlier on just after this happened he is the president of kontinental hockey league this is. a plane carrying the locomotive team to right after they take off from your islam will according to the latest information only one player has survived our teams don't think they can continue their marriage after such news thank you for your understanding and supporting this decision now let's commemorate the players who have passed away with a minute of silence. to. tread yak is the president of the ice hockey federation of russia this is what he had. we offer our condolences to the families and the club i must see it is a huge loss for russian ice hockey because there were

a lot of good players in jaroslav so we will do everything to find out the causes of the tragedy to support the families and help the sport live on in various levels to honor those who died in the disaster. also to aviation expert mark weiss he's a former american airlines pilot he told me he thinks the crash investigation will take some time but its results should help hopefully prevent future tragedy. well the first thing they're going to start with you going to get investigators and. typically speaking you'll bring investigators who have expertise in all the various systems and aircraft components and engines. air worthiness. you bring them all together and you start with the records of the aircraft the maintenance records of the aircraft the history of the aircraft the history of the crew the weather at the time any problems that were encountered by aircraft taking off before them. it's a long tedious process but these people who do this job and here we have the

national transportation safety board who oftentimes are called in world wide as experts in forensics of accidents. they're very well trained and they're very detailed and nothing really goes overlooked they will find every bit and piece to put this together because remember the end result of the investigation is not just . to give closure to everybody but to prevent something like this from happening again. vice their season next pilots being displayed earlier on but of course keep you updated with the latest developments and you as we get throughout the night now let's turn to some other news short. the top court of berlin has thrown out a series of lawsuits which said the germany's bankrolling of bailouts to ailing european economies were illegal but judges ruled out giving chancellor merkel a blank check saying any future aid must now be pre-approved by parliament that

could of course hamper germany's ability to react swiftly to any new crisis but if there's also the president for other nations to tighten their belts to opposition parties welcome the ruling but said merkel had made the crisis worse through delays and lack of vision we spoke to financial advisor patrick young who believes that there are celebrate just yet. ultimately this is actually i think what we would call a pyrrhic victory it's an empty victory for mrs merkel yes the b. allies can go ahead but like all good court judgments read the small print and what has happened today is that in fact the german court has come i with an announcement that the german parliament and most importantly of all the german budget committee has a grid deal more say on what goes on in the whole issue on the larger basis what we're looking at today is that yes below it can go ahead but at the same time it's still a very very closely picture of the euro we know that the german people are deeply

unhappy about what's going on and they don't see there being any benefit in suddenly giving a credit card another bottle of vodka to a drying drunken man in a department store and that's what we've got here it's going to still be a terrible result once the market is a bit of a relief rally which is going on as we speak what's happening is should greasers essentially being saul hide behind in slavery by the way that the euro debt mechanism is working it's a far stronger east it's a farce for the greece people and it's a total complete and utter disaster for the euro greece should be allowed to go free and it must. make its own decisions it's also more of the solutions to be greased also believe but cancer is spreading and as we know we reached italy last month it's already we rooting around the place since it hit portugal it so far does the disease google for it finally kills the patient i think the question is it's not a question of how much work is there to get in greece i did the euro actually i much chances are that the euro is going to survive with greece still in it and the

answer is really numb. further south the senate has just approved the latest fifty four billion euro austerity package there and the weeks of political bickering accompanied by strikes and protests the new measures include tax hikes and increasing the retirement age for women and no go fine with the lower house of parliament are in the past few minutes in spain the senate there is also voted to add a constitutional amendment to limit the nation's rampant debt unions and rights groups say the debt cut will decimate their welfare system and hurt the most vulnerable. folks in the libya there rebels say they're trapped colonel gadhafi and they're ready to take him dead or alive the former leader was tracked down after loyalist convoys left for the neighboring country of new jack the rebels are believed to have located gadhafi with high tech equipment and intelligence they now control most of the country after a helping hand from western nations that's in stark contrast to how america and

britain operated in libya in recent years before it because before they get african pain right now the cia and m i six were allegedly sending terror suspects to libya for interrogation and even torture according to documents that have recently been on earth in libya they've of course but that range was artie's than a bushel reports next the signs suggest the violence isn't over yet and that the real chaos they still get me to come. home with her song is one of africa's most experienced diplomats just broke from the libyan capital he says mates who has turned it into a ghost town that is no police. there is no administration there is no there is no it's called law and order has been replaced by a more crew of rebels some fear that the various groups who've emerged might soon stop fighting each other what's your weapon stores have been raided every man's armed with kalashnikovs if the tribes fight for their independence the country will

enter and never ends in civil war with brutal urban guerrilla warfare analysts argue that even rebel leaders don't know where their fighters of from. rebel heads mom with joel was a launch to find islamist sleeper cells had joined his tripoli offensive the vast parallel structure of competence has appeared we have no idea who is in charge of them. hopes of a reliable replacement for more of my gadhafi appeared to be fading libya's rebels remain deeply divided while the chaos from nato is bombing appears to be spreading beyond the country's borders in the turmoil there are fears that religious extremists could be using libya as a base to further their aims in north africa if i'm to new zealand or a good while of a delusion women got abortion rights twenty years before women in belgium under the last regime divorced women good benefits revived arab sunni just movements are trying to reverse that. before the war leaders from barack obama to nicolas sarkozy

and silvio berlusconi a shook and even kissed good f.e.c. rebels got red carpet treatment in paris but the west little so changed tack warning experts if libya doesn't go for them as planned according to this man who's just returned from war torn tripoli the message from some locals there is that the conflict may have created a frankenstein's monster for europe they warned us that we don't know what we are creating a libya it will be a free haven of extremist groups which are just on the southern border of europe poirot's from failed somalia made their coast a no go. frighteningly some diplomats no think libya is heading in the same direction but what they will do sure that it is mediterranean will not be a safe seat there will be parted and there will be all bloat to control the mediterranean to make it safe i don't think french economy can support that western

intervention in libya has brought large numbers of new forces to the flaw experts fear the west itself may come to regret their emergence daniel bushell brussels will stay with the region's troubles the situation in syria was discussed in moscow at a meeting between the russian and french foreign ministers both sergey lavrov and his counterpart stressed the need for dialogue between the syrian government and opposition but the meeting also outlined a few differences in approach as well france is seeking tough sanctions on the syrian government where the other hand russia wants a more peaceful solution but both look forward they say they are discussing possible measures and un general assembly later this month russia's foreign minister stressed syria must not be a repeat of the libya scenario. we're convinced that it's vital today to start talks and this is actually what the syrian leadership calls for it's extremely dangerous to prompt certain forces in syria to boycott those talks and neither russia nor france wants to see that happen every party in syria should stop

using violence and we've proposed a resolution to this a fact we encourage the government to carry out the reforms it has launched and the opposition should not use provocations and reject invitations into dialogue. has been hearing of syria will be able to settle its issues that are key western states stop trying to impose their imperial ambitions are on it with sanctions. sanctions always hurt people i mean it's amazing that these old colonial powers have now learned met it only ends up hurting the people not the regime itself it actually solidifies the power of the rich the best best way forward is to butt out i mean that's what the u.s. needs to do that's what the brits need to do france the world is filled with dictators with tyrants it always has been this is a matter for the syrian people to decide how far do they want to go to oust this dictatorship they want to go to revolution which is a very costly enterprise

a lot of people lose their lives this is a choice that people of that country need to make but you know these these are they all come on you know hours you know britain and britain france i mean they're they're living in the old days of having their empires back where they're controlling the middle east and controlling the events in the middle east and installing their little puppet regimes extracting oil from these countries is going to go to something significantly worse they're going to keep playing this game with the sanctions yesod regime is not going to budge it's you know no regime is going to budge to it with respect to sanctions and you're just going to see a tightening and tell ultimately yes you may see a libya type situation national identity is a powerful emotion but when you've been a small part of a big country for the best part of millennium you can feel a little bit held back take whales for example the tiny british principality that now wants the same taste of freedom as its celtic cousins in scotland what is the

remedy reports next to why the people of the valleys get a bigger voice. welcome to wales part of the u.k. and a proud nation with its own language and customs and the latest voice to call for independence applied comrie which means the party of wales has always argued the country could be better off without the u.k. and it seems increasing numbers are starting to see their point of view our economy has been run from london with the interest and priorities of the south east of england to the fore an independent will be able to chart a different course based on our needs and priorities wales is a long way from declaring independence but it's no longer just a pipe dream people here voted overwhelmingly earlier this year in favor of handing the welsh assembly full law making powers that was considered a turning point in welsh nationhood and plights couldn't read the party of wales have undoubtedly taken heart from the surprise victory of the scottish national

party that victory in may gave the s.n.p. an outright majority in the scottish parliament which has many powers devolved from westminster the party's promise to hold a scotland wide referendum on whether to declare independence according to plied comrie that marks the turning of the tide for a unified u.k. people who i believe are beginning to to use the word independence in in a welsh context which state they they wouldn't have done in a few years and as that debate invalid sizing the people in where's it going to see that their time when scotland becomes independent the next logical step is for witness to become independent to of course separatism is nothing new to the british isles and the thousands of victims of the troubles in northern ireland are testament to how high feelings can run both in the present day and for centuries past while national sentiment may not be

a new phenomenon the reasons for it have changed over the years and in these. current turbulent economic times money talks scotland has gas but while wales was a proud coal producing nation its minds are now closed and it's got some of the highest unemployment levels in the u.k. because of that the older generation is reserved when it comes to independence but young people are filled with national fervor for them independence is less about money and more about nationhood and identity wales needs to be independent because it is a great country and we do we do in it like new joining because we really patriotic i think of more patriotic thing that we have a lot of people to say we shouldn't forget just seem to be better here at the moment that you can get free prescriptions. education seems to be a bit better played comrie says it's going to build on that support providing not

just emotional reasons why wales should be independent but concrete economic reasons too and it says wales does have resources particularly land and see for green energy if the scots vote for independence wales might not be far behind nor emmett's r.t. cardiff. is printed disquiet in israel where police have started dismantling the tent cities built by protesters during the past two months the council pollination y. demonstration of living costs and other social problems among israelis the move came first in the day after televisa ministration promised to protect the demonstrators and cooperate with them but wednesday's police action led to clashes between the comes inhabitants and officers as well as calls for television's mayor to resign meantime in the west bank jewish settlers vandalized the israeli defense force base damaging several vehicles that was a response to the i.d.f. earlier dismantling several illegal outposts jewish settlers the deli diam spoke to us he says the authorities will act as they would

a palestinian into the neither side will achieve anything. they called the bond the perpetrators to surrender the police also called the police to use the . capabilities they have in order to catch that perpetrate those of these act by the way or use exactly the same terminology when the violence perpetrated by israelis against the palestinian property we have to understand. we are all playing here in a game that leads us nowhere they're only game and diplomatic world including the united states including the united nations including the european community and including russia is the two state solution but that the state solution isn't visible just a little after twenty eight minutes past eleven o'clock here in moscow watching r.t. international with me kevin when we continue to bring you updates on what has turned

out to be russia's worst ever sporting tragedy earlier on this evening all except one member of the entire lokomotiv garrus level ice hockey team were killed this evening after their plane crashed on takeoff two hundred seventy kilometers northeast of moscow the surviving plane tonight is said to be gravely ill the main details coming up shortly. kumi.

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a jet carrying the country's triple champion ice. was crushed in the runway in their hometown which is two hundred seventy kilometers northeast of moscow there are only two survivors tonight among the forty five people who are board that jet at the time. the headlines germany's highest court rules. countries bailout billions for struggling nations are legal but it warns angela merkel she'll have to ask permission the next time she wants to run to the rescue. with colonel gadhafi surrounded by the rebels r.t. looks at how libya might become a breeding ground for extremists and. civil war. also eventful day for israel where police begin clear in tel aviv streets of the social protest stick one of the west bank jewish settlers vandalize a military base. i'm kevin thanks for being with us tonight r.t. will of course keep you updated on the jaroslav all playing tragedy in the coming hours as more details.