what's happening police here have cordoned off the street which we have everything people coming to lay flowers here a tremendous tragedy for the city but you're a slob of one of the best teams the best russian i buy stock in teams almost completely wiped out in this accident the city is just devastated here there's been a huge turnout tonight of hockey firearms and maybe not just people coming out to grieve for their. fellow citizens of jaroslav parish tonight. that's right hundreds if not thousands of people have gathered in the center of your small ball with candles and with that the team scarf look inwards if you're just crying and screaming out their slogans slogans which they would a sense of the scream at matches of course many matches canceled as the k h l opens its season. in it one in light i should say of this this tragedy occurring the

emotions out here on the streets of your style of very intense is going to take some time for people to get over with an investigation well underway it's not quite clear exactly what happened we've been hearing from a lot of different witnesses let's take a moment to listen to some of the versions of what people saw from the ground what happened when things went terribly wrong on that yacc forty two. operative if anyone in the hospital one of the after the plane took off i heard a noise like to come. several seconds later we had another bang then the plane started leaning to the right after we heard the second bang the plane suddenly dived and hit the ground i didn't see it hit the ground but we saw that it's tell you. the plane broke into to newark and we heard the plane takeoff so we told our granddaughter look there's going to be an airplane then i heard a bang and my daughter told me mom it's falling down to the side then came to for.

in the smoke and we wanted to run away but we didn't know where to run then we went to the river and saw the plane. come under us law is my home team who supported him to move off this team who was shocked when we found out who went to all of the games knew all of them by name and it's very difficult when you're. forty three people confirmed dead in this tragedy two survivors to be in hospital now one of them a crew member of the other hockey hero i think it's fair to say a member of the russian national team alexander. earlier there were reports that he didn't quite make it the latest we're hearing from his doctors that ninety percent of his body is covered in burns his respiratory system along with very severely damage he's undergone several surgeries and still it's not clear if he's going to make it of course praying tonight that at least these two people make it out of this terrible accident very much with the family friends and loved ones of the

people who've perished and of course thinking of the people who have to investigate what went on as this rescue operation to is into a recovery operation i guess over the next twenty four hours and so details are still sketchy but what is being said about the possible causes of the crash. well it has to be said that the russian minister of transport house just arrived at the crash site that has been confirmed the investigation like i say just at its very beginning stages you heard from those witnesses very different ideas and visuals of what they thought happened i want to just take you through the two main themes of what could have gone wrong but we've been hearing throughout the past couple of hours human error of course is always a possibility so that's obviously being looked into the second is a possibility that was some kind of technical failure that the pilot had trouble gaining. gaining altitude on the flight and from some of the whip. this is we heard

that it actually ended up crashing into an antenna another version is coming from the air traffic controllers parent lee for what they saw in terms of what they could actually see not here was that the pilot was very late in his actual hold up off the runway we know the plane crashed just some five hundred meters from the runway so still very early stages but those are just some of the versions that we're hearing of what could have gone wrong you know we're hearing as well the reports coming through tonight suggesting now that the whole got forty two fleet in russia has been grounded is that a major problem for the russian air industry and the robot one hundred or so of these planes in service how much of a dent will cause to russian air traffic over the coming days. i think it's fair to say a big dent i mean a lot of old soviet planes are flying if you speak to experts a lot of them say if they're well kept it's fine to fly them they can fly for decades it's not clear if that was the have the exact problem yes the entire fleet has so far been grounded although it has to be said it's not clear whether that is

until the investigation is closed and they figure out what actually went wrong or if in general they've just decided that the plane is too old to fly it's too early into the investigation to say but for now at least until they figure out what happened today forty choose will not be flying you know those two to talk about for the coming days let's focus now all the dead and this is made to russian ice ok and indeed. these teams be more around the world tonight as well because of the plenty of international players in the one that. there was indeed first of all it was considered one of russia's best i can i say hockey team so this is the pride and joy of that you're second of all there were other foreign nationals on that plane it's confirmed that head coach canadian fifty three year old brad mccrimmon was killed also it was confirmed earlier that it czech a very famous hockey player was killed in the flight and embassies from sweden slovakia as as well. the czech republic also reports that perhaps from ukraine and

bellow roots also nationals on that plane so this is very far from just a russian tragedy first of all any sports fans are going to feel this blow and really the world is watching as your assault will deals with the shock and begins to to you know take steps to kind of accept what happened and work through what exactly went wrong but for now it's hard to put into words the emotions that you see here and that you feel here in yourself and of course it was an event in the way and yet it was level just as this plane crash happened with. this also included changing the plans of president medvedev i gather he's going to be visiting as well . because indeed of course we were here because the global policy forum is taking place and i knew of all of you where world leaders next person discussed the main problem is that the world basically just ripped by this news today. it's already been confirmed that president medvedev will be coming to the science himself tomorrow to lay flowers and that most of his sessions at the global policy forum

have been cancelled so this is clearly become the main focus of the president as this becomes really a time of national mourning and this and i thank you very much for bring you so today so so much. sports correspondent told us that today's catastrophe is not the first such tragedy destroyed russian sport. well for. being regarded and talked about now is russia's worst sporting disaster absolutely i mean with the loss of pretty effectively a whole team completely gone in it is indeed a tragedy but it does also bring to mind a similar disaster we were looking through and also some of my colleagues reminded me of this of the pack tech or disaster which was also that was a midair crash that hundred nine hundred seventy nine in. which is in the ukraine and what happened is the practice or team had been promoted they were also going off to play did i mean to get

a football match and they collided with another plane mid-air nine hundred seventy nine august seventeen players plus officials gone completely and of course talking about looking back at the archives that the great britain as well but it was absolutely you do events looking through i mean we found at least eleven different crashes i mean the main one that definitely i can think of mainly in england is is militaristic in my scene one thousand nine hundred fifty eight. and also even as late as one thousand nine hundred ninety three the zambian national football team as well in a plane crash. into national hockey stars approach to the disaster this is the shock of this tragedy is being felt not only very greatly here in russia but also of course around the world and absolutely so many of the hockey teams now in particular in the k.h. are not only attract russian players they attract players from all around the world also the n.h.l. who also sent their condolences we were looking eight to nine different nationalities some of the stars kind of our young america the czech republic have all the nature of slovakia all these international players the repercussions here are not just russian they global we were also been talking about how how the teams

carry on and how how the city can carry on having lost we can see the pictures there of the families how devastated they can be in this particular instance back to court and all the other teams within the top flight a voluntary player went to play for them and this is something that might as has been suggested by commentators like alexander because mark and another famous sports commentators across russia and now we can hear from the president alexander . a plane carrying the locomotive team krrish to right after they take off from europe according to the latest information only one plane has survived our teams don't think we can continue their marriage after such news thank you for your understanding and supporting this decision now let's commemorate the players who have passed away with a minute of silence. the president of the kontinental hockey league and of course comment as well coming through tonight as well for the president of the ice hockey federation of russia. we offer our condolences to the

families and the club i must see it is a huge loss for russian ice hockey because there were a lot of good players in your islam so we will do everything to find out the causes of the tragedy to support the families and help the sport live on in your islam to honor those who died in the disaster. well as it was very much as that is left to jack says there this is all about rebuilding the communities rebuilding a hockey community and there's been there have been suggestions because it is the it's the effectively the end of the team we there is a famous commentator xander because mike you suggested that perhaps other teams maybe donate players and help to help in the rebuilding of the city and also the saying ok well kate thanks for giving us the sporting side on this terrible event and i thank you. partridge with me earlier on that's what the radiation expert mark weiss he's a former american airlines pilot he told me he thinks the crash investigation will take time but its results should help prevent future tragedy. well the first thing

they're going to start with you're going to get investigators and. typically speaking you bring investigators who have expertise in all the various systems and aircraft components and engines. air worthiness. you bring them all together and you start with the records of the aircraft the maintenance records of the aircraft the history of the aircraft the history of the crew the weather at the time any problems that were encountered by aircraft taking off before them it's a long tedious process but these people who do this job and here we have the national transportation safety board who oftentimes are called in world wide as experts in forensics of accidents. they're very well trained and they're very detailed and nothing really goes overlooked they will find every bit and piece to put this

together because remember the end result of the investigation is not just. you know to give closure to everybody but to prevent something like this from happening again season part of the vice talk a little bit earlier romel of course keep you updated as well the latest developments in the u.s. we get just ten days mother news now that today showing. a top coat in berlin is thrown out a series of lawsuits which said germany's bankrolling of bailouts to ailing european economies relief but judges ruled out giving chancellor merkel a blank check saying any future aid was now be pre-approved by parliament and that could hamper germany's ability to react swiftly to any new crisis but it also sets a precedent for other nations to touch as well opposition parties welcome the ruling but said muckler made the crisis worse because of delays a lack of vision for the national budget patrick thinks he believes there is little

to celebrate just yet. ultimately this is actually i think what we would call a pyrrhic victory it's an empty victory for mrs merkel yes the be allowed can go ahead but like all good court judgments read the small print and what has happened today is that in fact the german court has come out with an announcement of the german parliament and most importantly of all the german budget committee has a grid deal more say on what goes on in the whole issue on the larger basis what we're looking at today is the fact that yes below it's can go ahead but at the same time it's still a very very quietly picture of the euro we know that the german people are deeply unhappy about what's going on and they don't see there being any benefit in suddenly giving a credit card another bottle of vodka to a drying drunken man in a department store and that's what we've got here it's going to still be a terrible result once the market as a bit of a relief rally which is going on as we speak what's happening is greece's essential

is being sold. to end slavery by the way that the euro debt mechanism is working for far stronger east it's a farce for the greece people and it's a total complete and utter disaster for the euro greece should be allowed to go free and it must make its own decisions its own sovereign decisions that of greece doesn't leave the cancer is spreading and as we know it reached italy last month it's already were rooting around the place in spain and. so far does the disease google for it finally kills the patient i think the question is it's not a question of how much work is there to get angry side of the euro i actually i much chances are that the euro is going to survive with greece still in it and the answer is really numb well further sophia tally incentive system prove the last few hours the latest fifty four billion euro austerity package ending leaks of political. protests you bet your tax hikes and. women

now go find the provolone house. and also just on the saving in spain the senate there also voted to add a constitutional amendment to limit the nation's rampant debt unions and rights groups say the debt cut will decimate the welfare system and hurt the most vulnerable. libyan rebels say they've tracked colonel gadhafi and they're ready to take him dead or alive the former leader was tracked down after loyalist convoys left for the neighboring country of nazeer the rebels are believed to have located gadhafi with high tech equipment and intelligence they now control most of the country all for a helping hand from western baghdad that's in stark contrast to merica and britain operated in libya to nixon years before the antique adelphi campaign the cia and m i six were allegedly sending terrorist suspects to libya for interrogation and even torture according to some documents now that have been on earth in libya and they sparked outrage what is that is daniel bushell reports the signs suggest the violence isn't over yet and the real chaos may be yet to come. mohamed his

song is one of africa's most experienced diplomats just broke from the libyan capital he says nato has turned it into a ghost town that is no police there is no administration there is no there is no schools law and order has been replaced by a crew of rebels some fear that the various groups who've emerged for to meet each other weapon stores have been raided every man stamped with kalashnikovs if the tripes fight for their independence to come true will answer and never ends in civil war with brutal urban guerilla war. lists argue that even rebel leaders don't know where their choices of from. rebel hands mahmud joel was a launch to find islamist sleeper cells had joined his tripoli insensitive vast parallel structure of competence has appeared we have no idea who is in charge of them. hopes of

a reward will reply. for more of my gadhafi appeared to be fading libya's rebels remain deeply divided while the chaos from nato bombing appears to be spreading beyond the country's borders in the turmoil there are fears that religious extremists could be using libya as a base to further their aims in north africa if i'm to new zealand or a good while of a delusion women got abortion rights twenty years before women in belgium under the last three jeem divorced women good benefits revive arab religious movements are trying to reverse that. before the war leaders from barack obama to nicolas sarkozy and silvio berlusconi shook and even kissed good. rebels got rid carpet treatment in paris but the west will also change tack warning experts if libya doesn't go for them as planned according to this man who's just returned from war torn tripoli the message from some locals there is that the conflict may have created

a frankenstein's monster for europe they warned us that we don't know what we are creating in libya it will be a free haven of extremist groups which are just on the southern border of europe poirot's from failed somalia made their coast a no go frighteningly some diplomats now think libya is heading in the same direction but what they will do sure that it is mediterranean will not be a safe sea there will be a part of us and there will be all bloat to control the mediterranean to make it safe i don't think french economy can support that western intervention in libya has brought large numbers of new forces to the fore experts fear the west itself may come to regret their emergence. bushell see brussels still focusing on the region's troubles the situation in syria was discussed in moscow to be to between the russian and french foreign ministers but sergei lavrov and his counterpart stressed the need for dialogue between the syrian government and opposition but the

meeting also outlined a few differences. approach to france is seeking tough sanctions on the syrian government while russia wants a much more peaceful solution but both sides say they look forward to discussing possible measures at the u.n. general assembly later this month russia's foreign minister stressed that syria must not be a repeat of the libyan scenario. used we're convinced that it's vital today to start all sorts of skill and this is actually what the syrian leadership calls for it's extremely dangerous to prompt certain forces in syria to boycott of those talks and neither russia nor france wants to see that happen it will soon every party in syria should stop using violence to me and we proposed a resolution to this effect was to move we encourage the government to carry out the reforms it has launched you and the opposition should not use provocations and reject invitations into dialogue that still has been hearing how syria will only be able to settle its issues after key western states stop trying to impose their imperial ambitions on it with sanctions. sanctions always hurt people i mean it's

amazing that these old colonial powers have now learned that it only ends up hurting the people not the regime itself it actually solidifies the power because it's the best best buy for it is to butt out i mean that's what the u.s. needs to do that's what the brits need to do france the world is filled with dictators with tyrants it always has been this is a matter of the syrian people to decide how far do they want to go to oust this dictatorship if they want to go to revolution which is a very costly enterprise a lot of people lose their lives this is a choice that people of that country need to make but you know these these are they all come on your powers you know britain and britain france i mean they're they're living in the old days of having their empires back where they're controlling the middle east and controlling the events in the middle east and installing their little puppet regimes extracting oil from these countries is going to go to

something significantly worse they're going to keep playing this game with the sanctions yesod regime is not going to budge it's you know no regime is going to budge to it with respect to sanctions and you're just going to see a tightening and tell ultimately yes you may see a libya type situation. and if you just joined display you know today the main news of arteta i the tragic plane crash in the russian city of a little earlier that has taken the lives of nearly all of the city's ok today as we get more details throughout the night we'll keep you posted on our next news update just under ten minutes from now between now and then we focus on europe the economic and political tangle it is currently finding itself in. the.

professor snyder thank you very much for joining us we're going to be talking about the e.u. but what a mess it all seems to be in what's happened to it and your peers will endure the e.u. has become a bureaucratic system that we call a super national confederation of states but from the legal point of view it has this tendency to turn into a federal state and one of its sensual problems is not just an alliance of states anymore but a federation without legitimate basis it has no nation new european nation but nations political relations within the union it less democratic all the time in this situation we're losing what we call illegal state which is of the highest priority the euro to seem to be in big trouble what's going to happen to it. the

euro will inevitably fail it was always clear that the euro project would not succeed already in one thousand nine hundred three. lawsuit that was mostly against the introduction of the money through a union without the consent of the nations comprising the e.u. and this euro is being used as a political lever to make the e.u. a super state for example against russia in at the same time series as a counterbalance against china the usa and other economic giants but this lever was always economically doomed to feel that. the eurozone is comprised of very different here or genius economies begin hardly be an optimal space for a common currency a combination of entering markets with common currency it requires member states to do revaluation in devaluation of their currencies taking into account different levers of productivity and efficiency of their economy we can member states are not competitive in bailouts cannot help here as we see now

a common currency. it can be introduced only when the member states economies are convergent and have similar levels of productivity and there is now the case is a long way before we can possibly reach it the worst thing here is that a common currency is counterproductive that it hinders the aims of economic development we still hold on to the euro because we want to make a superstate out of the e.u. so it's the subject of bailouts is also causing a lot of controversy particular here in germany because they end up having to foot most of the bills what's going to happen there. in the b. or d. we have never witnessed a situation when the law is not respected as we see now in the rescue time or they simply say that there is no other alternative but to sometimes neglect in provisions of the treaties in their constitution otherwise the euro would crash the euro is really a new the earlier it is only an instrument and nothing more nobody needs this e.u.

which became a bureaucratic dictatorship we should have an association of european states and nations we should be capable of admitting the russian federation and a highly important european state but it is at this moment in today's form absolutely impossible. the e.u. was born in the terms of cold war it was meant to be against the soviet union the e.u. wants to be a super state politically but it will feel economically what caused this current financial crisis in the year. over the euro has contributed but also they did collection policy which has other causes but the debt existed long before from the terms of the reunification with germany for the south european countries that are in trouble now where those that could boost their loan debt because it's too favorable in subsidized interest rates to live beyond their means just think about it since the introduction of the euro the salaries of corks in state officials rose in greece at seventy six percent in germany at the same time zero point nine percent in wages in germany rose at five point eight percent in greece. at forty

two this is all from credit the easing of the credit terms the holding of the interest rate is a fall senator itself is a mean reason for the debt of multiculturalism has failed european leaders say but what are the actual consequences of that failure as a way multiculturalism even if people from southern europe germany northern you are hungry poland russia or european nations living together we know it has not failed there is no problem at all the problem is with the muslims it's not people who constitute the problem but is less than it comes with muslim people with big build active groups to promote islam and educate the establishment of sheria law and sharia law particularly is criminal section is absolutely impossible for european relationships we have in religious pluralism europe in the singular religion is done and it is lamb is the religion that elevates another religion as long as it has no power to secure loos ation was the biggest political event for europe it meant that state and church were divided in no one is entitled to impose its

religion and determined against any tolerance of sharia law but it has nothing to do with tolerating muslim people. professor thank you very much. chad.

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