arms manufacturers that make the live the life of israeli citizen any better certainly not but it does make the life of israeli prime minister and yelping because you know that the one weapon bill has by which you can find the boat that it already hoping to protest with is war if they're going to be another war in the middle east if there's going to be violent clash with any of the or or with the. lebanon and then it all with iran then in the name of a state of emergency you can recruit and the young people and don't no longer be in the street in the. plaza demonstrating that it will be uniform and fighting a war and that will be the end of the protest i asked my twitter account last kaiser at twitter to ask you some questions and one of those questions referred to war and i get that a second but before i do continue on these protests so you're saying that the needs

of the warfare state in israel is primarily a warfare state cannot go along paris with the welfare state so the protesters are they how are they going to square that circle is there any way to transform the israeli economy which is currently now almost entirely contingent upon the war how are they going to transform the israeli economy what can they do to make israel something less of a pariah and more of a functioning economy that's interested in the betterment of itself and those around it and these many column is not really contingent or immediate on or. military part of the economy's growth twelve percent that's a lot that's more than any other country in the world probably but it's at least eighty eight percent which is not military related and these eighty percent or more most of the people that's where and people where you find the doctors the teachers . it is social workers people who are who are barely making ends meet without

addressing the deep roots of injustice in the israeli palestinian society in the fact that there are millions of others there were a few g.'s who have every right to return but they're not allowed to do it without addressing the issue and the fact that israel to close it defiance of the jewish state so that palestinians cannot be equal citizens in israel without these issues and of course the occupation of the west bank in the gaza strip where about a third of the population are not citizens their subjects without any rights that are addressing i'd written these three issues there is not going to be a real change in the way that these are society works but we were talking before about about violence and should the demonstrators use mine and i would say it's very clearly divided the protesters should not turn violent they don't need to anything to to change israeli society the need to do exactly the opposite they need

to refuse to take up arms and any israeli young israeli who refuses to become a soldier for yet another imperialist war in the middle east yet another kind of distraction by the israeli government to distract from from the social issues they're going to bring the real change they're going to allow the most important issues to come to the fore issues of justice well said salvia do you believe the tipping point of a nasa louvin toward refusing to serve an israeli defense. is upon us for the first time there is a clear understanding of most of the protests there is that it's likely that the government is going to try to use war to silence the demonstrations and that the security and excuse is really nothing nothing more than an excuse and that's that's something very that is never been the case before cried maestro what role was the increase in food prices played in regards to the recent. mass protests i said that

it could lead to more food related riots the food prices were the trigger for the right the first thing that protesters a organized the first kind of protest was overcrowded she writes and they did this by use of facebook and twitter and they organized method consumer boycott within israel and they were excited by the success of this campaign and i think that was one of the reasons that it felt more confident to move on to other issues because prodigies is important but it's not the most important thing the things that people and need much much more effectively in the cheese but yeah prices in israel actually very expensive more expensive than they are in countries where the income per capita is double and the reason for that of course is the massive burden of security the cost of the army the docking age all right second class and it comes from random u.k. humans on twitter what is the probability of israel attacking are blowing up iran's

list of the big the big question this is a very big question and i'm not a prophet i wouldn't be able to answer this but there is a there is a real risk and unfortunately the world community is not doing enough to try to prevent this kind of war which could be catastrophic iran is doing at the moment nothing to provoke israel into its asking and by germany for example actually telling israeli it israel that could be used to launch such an attack. i think one of the beacons of hope at least for me is that a worsening relations between israel and turkey mean that it's much more difficult for israel suspended over two to bomb iran without it called gratian with turkey so maybe there is also silver lining to do that. thanks so much of the qatari for it thank you max that's going to do it for this all because a reporter with me max kaiser and stacey herbert's our thank my guests here however you want to send me an e-mail police powers report of r t t v dot are you going to

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world's eyes talking communities invited in grief after russia's lokomotiv team was almost entirely wiped out in a plane crash in the city of. forty three people are confirmed dead while two survivors are in critical condition. the u.k. government faces a legal action as thought there's a rather new inquiry into the shady death of a weapons inspector he was the man who revealed britain a new iraq had no w m d's and head of the invasion. of the middle east to build up policy the sort of peaceful campaigning for statehood ahead of the view where the votes in israel tensions grow as police clashed with protesters calling for a better government. also twenty years in an american jail a russian

a pilot has taken a group western operation by the sentence for conspiring to smuggle drugs but moscow slams his arrest of addition as illegal. stuff for four pm here in the russian capital you're watching t.v. and we begin with what has been called eyes hawking's darkest day and the worst disaster affecting sport in russia's recent history forty three people are confirmed dead after a plane carrying one of the country's top teams the locomotive crashed in the city bearing its name the only two survivors are in a critical condition but want to being a team player the other eight crew member both are being taken to moscow for further treatment well aren't you sean thomas is near the crash site which. a somber day here in the city of jaroslav well as the community reels from the tragic

incident that happened on wednesday killing the entire locomotive team as they were on their way to their first incident this happened about four zero two on wednesday afternoon as their plane did not make lift off at the end of the runway burst into a ball of flames after clipping an antenna and killing all four but two on board there were forty three confirmed dead two didn't survive at this time one of them of course being alexander going off. played it for the hours level team as well as the national team he suffered burns over ninety percent of his body as well as has gone undergone multiple surgeries. including of his respiratory system another crew member of the plane that crashed. suffered a broken femur those two survivors are going to be transported to moscow so they can get the best medical care so that they can try and pull through this incredibly tragic incident now through the past night and that day this is the beginning of

a three day mourning period for the people of the yugoslav all. immediately vigil started happening as fans and family members came chanting team slogan so that they could be together in this moment of grief and have the night of the accident wednesday night and then all throughout thursday people gathered to have central churches in the so that they could be together and share in the brief as well we had the opportunity to speak to some of the people as to their recollections and memories of the people on this team and here is their grief in their words. we've been fans of christine's many years who family including a little child went to all the games but for instance irreparable it's like losing a family member. i knew one of the players he was my neighbor and he was

a great person he's got two little kids left how could this happen when we saw the news on t.v. i just burst into tears i still can't grasp how it could happen there used to be a team i know there isn't. work still to be heard so much when they were everything to us will remember them forever. they were life and a few anecdotes to share with you about this tragedy that aren't actually related to the incident at all but one of them one of the wife of the coaches was on her way back from vacation when she learned that her husband had was in this accident and was asked to come and identify the body at the morgue in that case on her way to the morgue she got into a minor car accident she is ok but also a mother of one of the players on upon learning the news we are told suffered a heart attack as well after hearing that her son was involved in this incident

another story that we're told is a flight attendant twenty nine years old on this flight was married just three months ago and had told her friends and family that she was planning to retire from this business so that she could raise a family and have children and of course the people here are going to be gathering up for the next few days sharing their stories sharing their community spirit so that they can begin the big healing process after such a national tragedy. a wednesday's plane crash happened on the first day of the new season of the continental hockey league and many of those who perished play for their countries and were real stars of the sport presenter kate parker joins me now in the studio from our cradle certainly hope this is a great tragedy for the ice hockey world what we actually have been hearing so far well as has been mentioned before they play is the place that this particular team . for around ten different nationalities around the world the hockey community in itself is very much a small community even though it's very much global reaction that we've heard is

coming from the n.h.l. over in america as well as the shell it is it's come from the great and the good it's come from the highest and lowest it's come from fans from everywhere this is really seen a coming together of everybody within the ice hockey community i mean particularly players they reacted to this very strongly as well their friends and colleagues and i think now we can hear from alexei yashin who used to play for locke and is now going to play for. well my friends going to the. club years ago because. just want to give my condolences to the. sweet stuff for which. i'm speechless. when we heard them from so he doesn't actually play for

a lot of senators so again the idea of the reaction coming from a global community or what about the future of the club this is an entire generation of one whole team garden what about the future is going to be rebuilt everything about that what we've been hearing from we've been hearing from the legends of the sport who've been saying they've taken very much on board the idea that the hockey must carry on and the idea that's come true before is commentators have to broach the idea of the tactical team that was a football team that was originally from the soviet union that was in a terrible irony also on a plane going to deploy it in a moment and they were involved in midair collision one hundred fifty people died seventeen members of the team itself and the team officials they died and what happened with the football league was that they all the league then each of the individual teams then volunteered a player to come through and to form a new team the idea that the team must carry on in the leagues carry on as it is going to on the twelfth of september and we can now hear how the greater good from

in the ice hockey world are making these suggestions and how we can go forward. i just question of secularism yes the ice hockey family mourns the loss of one of the best teams it was a multinational with a unique group of players and the international sports community sharing our grief it was an outstanding team and our priority will be to build and you lock motif. it's a huge tragedy for the. big international are different because not only great hardship but it's. the smallest good people. know this not only an argument with some of those support but you know the same sources for. the managers. there are people on this who support the team sometimes of. their professional or could say. that

no one came to me on my success or. thousands of calls was a picture of the. five calls that i was a player which i do the wall full of promise you it will be selected by your friend porch and there nobody out there was a decided by the sale of so also as a manager so on those of the clubs and even look at causes there it really good best players or the local were different or there's a history here for you know so i would hear what you'd say will not stop. on his or heading for mike on the measure that if he had as a k h l saying that people don't even need to be on speaking of volunteering to come through and and play and also to coach and manage the club so the idea that pretty much everybody is you could tell by the grace and good that we're all in shock but the idea that they all want to come together and go for the rebuilding is already happening yeah sensually all right thanks very much ok for the perspective from the sporting industry there thank you well let me see medvedev has visited

a clash right and lay flowers in tribute to the victims of the plane disaster in the us level. and at the site the russian president said the number of airlines must be reduced dramatically he also ordered the a transport ministry to pay special attention to pilot training and russian civil aviation sector same of those who are not up to the job must be sacked preventive added that the entire industry must undergo serious changes. while president medvedev altered his plans for the international policy for of any out of to visit the site of the crash but later arrived to address the global gathering our correspondent and he said now is there and she'll bring us some more of what's been said here shortly and also this hour. a decade since nine eleven we begin our special coverage of the adverse or commemorating the tragedy that shook the world that's coming up shortly. probably british government faces court action from a group of doctors over the death of weapons expert david kelly in two thousand and

three pushing for a new inquiry after the first reached a verdict of suicide kelley was be behind a report showing that britain knew there were no weapons of mass destruction in iraq before joining the invasion was already found out the evidence in the case isn't as clear as previously thought. more than eight years since the death of u.n. weapons inspector talked to david kelly and still no inquest following his own masking as the source of a report saying tony blair's government knew iraq had no weapons of mass destruction before person invaded the country kelly was found dead in woods near his home a verdict of suicide was recorded despite what many see as conflicting evidence no one's ever such questions under oath about kelly's death and all medical and scientific reports relating to it were secretly classified something which has never been legally explains but it hasn't gone away this week talk to david help in

is demanding that the question of holding an inquest be reopened he's challenging a decision by attorney general dominic grieve who ruled out holding a coroner's inquest in june citing what he called overwhelming evidence that the u.n. weapons inspector committed suicide but david how pen and a group of other doctors are distinctly underwhelmed by the evidence. cross. we've. become pain has popular support readers of the daily mail newspaper have to natal around fifty six thousand dollars in just a week to help finance the appeal how pain and his fellow campaigners hope this will lead to a full inquest into kelly's death many suspect foul play and the subsequent

government's coverup. reporting there the palestinians have started a campaign for statehood ahead of the september twentieth vote in the united nations they carried a letter to the local u.n. mission in ramallah saying their peaceful demonstrations will continue until palestine becomes a member state largest policy or has more other developments in the region paula hi there so what exactly are the palestinians calling for. well the palestinian authority officially launched its campaign for statehood today thursday and in a formal research to the u.n. secretary chief banky ruin it urged the international body to recognize palestinians just demands and what we understand is that the campaign will involve a series of events in the run up to the opening session of the un general assembly on september the plaintive it has been dubbed national campaign for palestine state one hundred and ninety four and to launch its one hundred palestinian high ranking

officials and activists gathered today thursday at u.n. headquarters in ramallah for a short syrian we now have both the israeli government as well as the obama administration is against the stipulation and the u.s. has into a formal request to the palestinian president mahmoud abbas asking him not to go ahead with it but a bus has rejected as we are hearing some rumblings behind the scenes that israelis and palestinians have been meeting informally and in secret to discuss the possibility of possibly because phoning this declaration that we have no confirmation of this however there's a lot of talk sort of leading up to the u.n. vote at these well as well as bracing itself for the vote is about. well it certainly is what we've witnessed here particularly in the last two months is a build up of anger and frustration just contained within the israeli public particularly leveled at the netanyahu government these have been the largest protests in this

country's history and just yesterday protesters. here in tel aviv with police a number of the race will hold people accused the police of treating them loosely and all of this was because the government has started removing teens from the streets of several cities despite the fact that earlier it's it would give protesters until the end of the month to clean up their act and to meet the government and see the ways and influence for discussions while they're going on the streets and what protesters are saying here is that they really cannot trust the government and there's also the concern that as the government turns its turns its attention to what is happening externally these of september the twentieth it will no longer even listen to the concerns being addressed here within the israeli society all right thanks very much for that report artes of policy your reporting there from a ton of. other tragic jet crash in got a softball has overshadowed a major political event taking place in the city and change plans including those of president medvedev speaking out the second and final day of the global policy

for he touched upon the major challenges russia is facing now is there for us at the moment hi there and so what exactly did the president have to say. almost certainly a lot of debate and discussion took place after a forum just by the tragedy nevertheless the president felt it was the right thing to do to begin his keynote speech with a moment of silence. but you gershwin you're also doing this work you and the citizens of seven other countries were race who killed in the crash and i asked to observe a moment of silence to their memory. the president went on to give his speech it focused on multiculturalism of course that's the theme of this year's forum here and he spoke about the ethnic divides in

russia and also about income divides and about how he thought that is very much one of the country needs to push on further with its i could no make diversity in order to help society grow in the country growth in its steady path towards modernization of course a very i think we could say main platform of president made he also spoke about the situation in north africa and in the mideast saying that countries shouldn't. push forward and try to teach other countries really in one board or another how to build a democracy it's something that has to come from within and of course he was talking about the situation in libya and syria and that's something that has really been a big topic at this issue before him again multiculturalism in its failure to really report from plenty of critics over the past couple of months that it's just not working in europe we've seen violence on the streets of western europe and so this is something that experts analysts leaders have been discussing at this today

for. michael thank you very much for that in the some reporting there from the global policy forum. now a russian a pilot who was convicted of drug smuggling earlier this year has been sentenced to twenty years in prison by a u.s. court also did he have a shared goal was arrested in liberia in two thousand and ten and transported to the u.s. but moscow says his arrest of rendition or illegal to see it sure cannot explains. this case builds a major precedent this is the first time when a russian citizen is sentenced to an american prison for an intent to participate in a crime in a case that was built by special agents posing as drug dealers arrested in a third country in this case liberia now you're a shuttle will be edge eligible for parole in as much as thirteen years we know that his defense team has thirty dale's days to file an appeal but u.s. officials frantic as much as two years to consider this appeal now the man has

repeatedly pled not guilty in this case hopeful until the last minute himself and his family his mother and wife who are here to support him broke out in tears in the courtroom today as the sentence was announced i mean. we have nothing to hope for believing and the judge would be reasonable. and he just sounded what do you think is cruel but a sentencing to twenty years behind bonds do you really think it is in this case it was a family man with no criminal background he has never stood trial anywhere in the world including russia and the united states moreover he has never even stepped foot on u.s. soil up until he was snatched up by u.s. special agents and idea realize year and brought here to stand trial now his family as well as russian officials were not informed as to his whereabouts affectively considering him missing russian officials cited a breach of diplomatic conduct a breach of international law because they did not know where this citizen was and

because the u.s. state department failed to do early and for him that. now in just a few days the united states will be marking its greatest tragedy of half a century the terrorist attacks on september eleventh two thousand and one followed was a decade of invasions torture scaffolds and untold abuses all of the name of justice and righteousness well as we begin our special coverage of the every verse three. takes a look at whether the past decade made. america a safer place. maybe one of the deadliest terrorist attacks in history i'm sure the in a decade of anti terror campaigns across the globe. but is america and the world now a safer place ten years on the most recent nine eleven commission report card gives aviation security in the u.s. the worst rate an f s for terrorists experts say the methods used to fight them

have spawned even more extremism torture and if which one if they were going to which were thank you if i thought occurred oh. and that significantly since back in the world and i try to be careful i'm following nine eleven america did not just go after the perpetrators it unleashed a campaign on a nation that had nothing to do with the attack hundreds of thousands of iraqi civilians have died since the u.s. invasion in two thousand and three america's decade long campaign on terror has created a new phenomena more without borders and as many say without rules torture rape and murder that took place at the u.s. run prison in abu ghraib iraq as well as other u.s. prisons overseas brought global condemnation but the key decision makers in the bush administration say what they did was in the best interest of their country and they would do the same again paper call it torture you think it should still be a tool.