and that will create huge profits for the u.s. arms manufacturers that make the live the life of israeli citizen any better certainly not but it does make the lives of israeli prime minister netanyahu better because he knows that the one weapon in hand by which you can find the protests and already see hope in the side of the protests with is war if there's going to be another war in the middle east if there's going to be in violent fashion a mentor or with him in lebanon then or with iran then in the name of a state of emergency beacon recruits and the young people and don't no longer be in the street in the. plaza demonstrating that instead they will be in uniform and fighting a war and that would be the end of the protest i asked my twitter account last ties or at twitter to ask you some questions and one of those questions refer to war and i get that a second before i do continue on these protests so you're saying that the needs of

the warfare state of israel is primarily a warfare state cannot go along power pursue with the welfare state so the protesters are are they how are they going to square that circle is there any way to transform the israeli economy which is currently now almost entirely dependent upon the war how are they going to transform the israeli economy what can they do to make israel something less of a pariah and more of a functioning economy that's interested in the betterment of itself and those around it they join economy is not really contingent or they may be upon war the military part of the economy is both twelve percent that's a lot that's more than any other country in the world but it's the least eighty eight percent which is not military related and these eighty percent or more most of the people that's where and. people where you can find

a doctor said peters and the social workers people who are where barely making ends meet without addressing the deep roots of injustice in the israeli palestinian society in the fact that there are millions of his dear if you please who have every right to return out of time but they're not allowed to do it without addressing the issue of and the fact that israel to close it defines defy the jewish state so that palestinians cannot be equal citizens in israel without these issues and of course the occupation of the west bank into gaza strip where at about a third of the population are not citizens their subjects without any rights that are addressing addressing these three issues there is not going to be a real change in the way that these it works but we were talking before about about violence and should the demonstrators you design and i would think they would clearly divide the protesters should not turn violent they don't need guillotine to

to change israeli society the need to do exactly the opposite they need to refuse to take up arms and any israeli young israeli who refuses to become a soldier for yet another imperialist war in the middle east yet another kind of distraction by the israeli government to distract from from the social issues they're going to bring the real change they're going to allow that the most important issues to come to the fore the issues of justice well said saudi do you believe the tipping point of a mass movement toward refusing to serve an israeli defense and national is upon us for the first time there is a clear understanding of most of the protest there is that it's likely that the government is going to try to use war to silence the demonstrations and that the security excuse is really nothing nothing more than an excuse and that's that's something very that is never been the case before pride my style what role. the

increase in food prices played in regards to the recent mass protests and it says that it could lead to more food related riots their food. prices were the trigger for the right the first thing that protestors organized the first kind of protest was overcrowded she and they did this by use of facebook and twitter and they organized a massive consumer boycott within israel and they were excited by the success of this campaign and i think that was one of the reasons that it felt more confident to move into other issues because the cottage cheese is important but it's not the most important thing the things that people and need much much more excuse me in the cheese but yeah prices in israel actually very expensive more expensive than they are in countries where the income per capita is double and the reason for that of course is the massive burden of security the cost of the army because the docking station all right second question comes from random u.k. human on twitter out what is the probability of israel attacking are blowing up

iran's this is the big the big question this is a very big question and i'm not a prophet i wouldn't be able to answer this but there is a there is a real risk and unfortunately the world community is not doing enough to to try to prevent this kind of war which could be catastrophic iran is doing at the moment nothing to provoke israel into attacking but germany for example actually is sending israeli it israel that could be used to launch such an attack. i think one of the beacons of hope at least for me is that a worsening relations between israel and turkey mean that it's much more difficult for israel to send its planes over to bomb iran without cooperation with turkey so maybe there is also a silver lining to that that sort of day thanks so much for being on the kaiser report thank you max and that's going to do it but is this going to cause a report with me max geyser and stacy herbert our thank my guests here however you want to send me. please do so after

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on r t tonight the world's ice hockey realty united in grief after russia's locomotive team were almost entirely wiped out in a plane crash in the city of daraa slub forty three people are confirmed dead while two survivors are in a critical condition. your government faces legal action as doctors demand a new inquiry into the shady death of the weapons inspector he was the man who revealed britain's new iraq had no w m d's a head of the invasion. in the middle east build a palestinian start a peaceful campaign for statehood ahead of the un vote while in israel tensions grow with these clashes protesters calling for a better government. hello

this is r.t. it's now eight pm thursday the eighth of september here in moscow and i was cavanagh in and first and i would start with what's been called ice hockey is darkest day and the worst disaster affecting sport in russia's recent history forty three people are confirmed dead after a plane carrying one of the country's top teens locomotive jaroslava crashed in the city bearing its name the only two survivors are still in critical condition tonight one big team player the other a crew member both have retaken the moscow now for the treatment party sean thomas is near the crash site. christmas a somber day here in the city of jaroslaw well as the community reels from the tragic incident that happened on wednesday killing a locomotive team plane did not make liftoff at the end of the runway burst into

a ball of flames after clipping an antenna and killing all but two on board there were forty three confirmed dead two did survive at this time one of them of course being alexander go. played for the hours level team as well as the national team he suffered burns over ninety percent of his body as well as it has gone under gone multiple surgeries including of his respiratory system another crew member of the plane that crashed. suffered a broken femur those who are survivors have now been transported and have arrived in moscow so that they can get the best medical attention and care of a little to them so that they could possibly recover from this tragedy through the past night and that day this is the beginning of a three day mourning period for the people all the jaroslav all. immediately vigil started happening as they have friends and family members came chanting team slogan

so that they could be together in this moment of grief that happened the night of the accident wednesday night and then all throughout first day people gathered at central churches in the saddle so that they could be together and share in the grief as well we had the opportunity to speak to some of the people as to their recollections and memories of the people on this team and here is their grief in their words but in europe it is emotional if you didn't fancy christine for many years who family including a little child atlanta. but for us it's irreparable it's like losing a family member. was the rules of what this young fellow who was with you i knew one of the players he was my neighbor and. was a great person he's got two little kids left this happened when we saw the news on t.v. i just burst into tears i still can't grasp how it could happen there used to be. the reason those little bits hurt so much when they were

everything to us he will remember them forever. i wish they were alive one of the wife of the coaches was on her way back from vacation when she learned that her husband was in his accident and was asked to come and identify the body at the morgue in that case on her way to the morgue she got into a minor car accident she is ok but also the mother of one of the players on upon learning the news we are told suffered a heart attack as well after hearing the first sign that was involved in this incident another story that we're told is a flight attendant twenty nine years old on this flight was married just three months ago and had told her friends and family that she was planning to retire from this business so that she could raise a family and have children and of course the people here are going to be gathering up for the next few days sharing their stories sharing their community spirit so

that they can begin the healing process after such a national tragedy and more details are emerging about the last moments of the players on board that doomed plane. i love you these were the final words from one of the players who got to speak to his wife and baby son just minutes before the crash and among the dead the youngest player the table despite being both injured and disqualified and wanted nothing more than to be with his sporting brothers the decision of course in the end that cost him his life we got more human stories and the timeline of this tragic event on our web page r.t. dot com. wednesday's plane crash on the first day of the new season of the kontinental hockey league when you have those in parish played for their country some real stars of the sport are sports presenter kate partridge says rebuilding the team is one of the main priorities now. well we've had reaction as unsurprisingly globally we were listening to some of the earlier quotes there in

the sports bulletin and some of the players that were in the n.h.l. as well as the kaisha were describing ice hockey as a family so many of the the team members came from other countries we have ten different nationalities new jaroslav aside so the reaction is global it starts we hear from the fans and also from the highest in the lowest and the greats in the goods and we can also hear from players themselves alexei actually used to play for long and he's not going to play for scar and we can hear from him. history of not only hockey it's all country and all of my friends going to the play because a couple years ago or because someone just just want to give my condolences to the families and. stuff for everybody what struck me with this story we're going to be. i'm speechless. that. we're going to be here another loss of ever since that again show you place the

also a center says the idea that you get from the n.h.l. occasionally everybody coming together in shock and grief the example that's been used is the parts record example that we have which is a football example of a team that was a ridge it's you know snafus pakistan that was originally part of the soviet union and they were printed in one thousand sometimes a top flight and whilst on route they were on a plane collided midair and seventeen players and coaches were killed the series of crashes they had afterwards was that the league then sent to play out from every team to make up a new team and this is a suggestion that's been made by commentators the cross russia and also the greats in the goods are all in favor of boosting the same and we can hear from some of the legends of the sport they're also right jaroslava with this idea. of. the ice hockey family mourns the loss of one of the best teams it was a multinational deal with a unique group of players and the international sports community sharing our grief it was. now standing team and our priority will be to build and you locomotive.

dozens of calls actually. five calls for the players which are redo the walls but what would you give they will be silly if there. are a lot more of you over there was a decided where is the sale of so it also is a religious or those of the clubs if you will could cause us to do good best players for the work or would you feel it was a history of. if your goal was stopped. well as we had in one example meant that if there the head of the k h l nobody even needs to be told people are actually volunteering to come forward and help we building in the team and they have a say here already announced a new coach the former you think i think i'll be of his coming in to head up a new. part of your sports correspondent every time would bet it was visited the crash site and laid flowers in tribute to the victims of the plane disaster jaroslav on the site the russian president said the number of airlines must be reduced dramatically he also thought of the transport ministry to pay special

attention to the pilot training in russian civil aviation sector saying those not up to the job must be sacked but read about it the entire industry must undergo serious changes the russian president altered his plans for the international policy calling i was liable to visit the site of the crash but later did arrive to address the global gathering i correspond listen now it's there i will bring us more of what's been said a bit later in the program. the british government faces court action from a group of doctors over the death of weapons expert david kelly in two thousand and three they're pushing for a new inquiry after the first reached a verdict of suicide kelli was behind a report showing britain knew there were no weapons of mass destruction in iraq before joining the invasion and his answers were not found out the evidence in the case isn't as clear as previously thought. more than eight years since the death of u.n. weapons inspector talked to david kelly and still no inquest following his own

mosque as the source of a report saying tony blair's government knew iraq had no weapons of mass destruction before person invaded the country kelly was found dead in woods near his home a verdict of suicide was recorded despite what many see as conflicting evidence no one's ever since questions under oath about kelly's death and all medical and scientific reports relating to it were secretly classified something which has never been legally explained but it hasn't gone away this week talk to david how pain is demanding that the question of holding an inquest be reopened he's challenging a decision by attorney general john a green who ruled out holding a coroner's inquest in june citing what he calls overwhelming evidence that the u.n. weapons inspector committed suicide but david help him and a group of other top his are distinctly underwhelmed by the evidence. that

one group. crossed the aisle. on. the. league would. become pain has popular support readers of the daily mail newspaper have to natal around fifty six thousand dollars in just a week to help finance the appeal how pain and his campaign is hoping this will be to a full inquest into kelly's death many suspect foul play and the subsequent governments coverup. palestinians have started a campaign for statehood ahead of the september twentieth vote in the united nations they told a letter to the local u.n. mission in ramallah saying a peaceful demonstrations will continue until palestine becomes a member state and is artie's paulus lee reports the whole region is in a state of build up now to the vote. well the palestinian authority officially launched its campaign for statehood today thursday and in

a formal letter to the un secretary chief franky ruin it urged the international body to recognize tellus fenians in just a minute and what we understand is that the campaign will involve a series of events in the run up to the opening session of the un general assembly on september the twentieth it has been dubbed the national campaign for palestine state one hundred and ninety four and to launch it some one hundred palestinian high ranking officials and activists gathered today for his day at the un headquarters in ramallah for a short ceremony of both the israeli government as well as the obama administration is against the stipulation and the u.s. has sent a formal request to the palestinian president mahmoud abbas asking him not to go ahead with it but a bus has rejected because we are hearing some rumblings behind the scenes that israelis and palestinians have been eating informally and in secret to discuss the possibility of possibly postponing this declaration that we have no confirmation of

this what we've witnessed here particularly in the last few months is a build up of anger frustration and discontent within the israeli public particularly revelled in the government these have been the largest protests in this country's history and just yesterday the protesters clashed here in tel aviv with police a number of arrests were held people accused the police of treating them brutally and all of this was because the government has started removing tents from the streets of several cities despite the fact that earlier it's it would give protesters and till the end of the month to clean up their act and to meet with government in all ways and in boardrooms for discussions rather than on the streets so what protesters are saying here is that they really cannot trust the government and there's also the concern that as the government turns its attention to what is happening externally these of the september the twentieth it will no longer even listen to the concerns innards. here within israeli society. and somebodies correspondent paula slayer well there are forces in both israel and palestine and

would like violence to erupt in the build up to the un vote and these provocations must be avoided if peace is ever to be established so says dr ron pundak you chairman of the palestinian israeli peace and geo forum. now what is happening between us and a pretty syrians will be judged by whether there will be clashes along with the seam lines between the israeli forces and the palestinians and also between the palestinians and the settlements within a west bank but as much as i understand the interest of both sides is not to reach any. any culmination of faith fighting or as we have seen in the year two thousand when the two sides clash into a second violent intifada so i presume that both sides will try to contain and maintain their becoming situation because it wants neither side having to see this one should remember that on both sides they are provocative force and the strength

of the two governments will be to try and calm down the split occasions and not to . be carried away by the. which would try actually to heat the area because they don't want to see quiet as quiet is a message for the future of what they hope for the peace forces and these people don't want to see peace. a russian pilot who was convicted of drug smuggling earlier this year has been sentenced to twenty years in prison by a us court constantly to get a shank or was detained in liberia twenty ten and transported then to the u.s. the case itself said major president as it was the first time a russian citizens been sentenced to jail in the us for intent to commit a crime if the country you're referring to repeatedly pleaded not guilty in the case his defense now has thirty days to file an appeal although u.s. officials could take up to two years to consider it moscow says arrest and

rendition or illegal i will seek you. in just a few days the united states will be marking its greatest tragedy in half a century the terrorist attacks on september the eleventh two thousand and one what followed was a decade of invasions torture scandals and untold abuses on both sides well as we begin our special coverage of the anniversary here on r.t. you can takes a look at whether the past decades made america any safer. i mean one of the deadliest terrorist attacks in history that are shared in a decade of anti terror campaigns across the globe. but is a merry current and the world now a safer place ten years on the most recent nine eleven commission report card gives aviation security in the u.s. the worst rate and after as what terrorists experts say the methods used to fight

them have spawned even more extremism torture and if that which form just great we're going to look for thank you it's a high focal on a curtain call it is and that both significantly fairfax and the other trying to defeat terrorism america's that cave long campaign on terror has created a new phenomena more without borders and as many say without rules torture rape and murder that took place at the u.s. run prison in abu ghraib iraq as well as other u.s. prisons overseas brought global condemnation but key decision makers in the bush administration say what they did was in the best interest of their country and they would do the same again call it torture you think it should still be a tool yes rendition yes secret prisons yes wiretapping with colonel lawrence wilkerson was collin powell chief of staff when he was the secretary of state under george w. bush he says some of the bush administration members deserve to be put on trial and

he would be ready to testify george tenet told dick cheney what dick cheney wanted to hear oh yes it's working mr vice president we're getting great information and we're stopping terrorist attacks that is order book in pakistan u.s. drone strikes have killed thousands of civilians and made it only a handful of actual terrorists many of the victims' loved ones seek revenge by joining radical groups. others like this young man who lost both of his legs and three family members in a drone strike gether in protest asking when will the killing stop we have made much more than a cottage industry out of the what my former boss colin powell has called the terrorist industrial complex lots of people are making lots of money off of this so-called global war on terror our war on terror. begins with al qaeda.

but it does not in their listening to george bush's declaration of war on terror from ten years ago what is left wondering whether it was the beginning of a vicious circle where the revenge would take more innocent lives and would start a new wave of terror i'm going to take our reporting from martial arts and. look at the grief and the anger in the aftermath of nine eleven the invasion of afghanistan was an understandable decision says paul rogers he's professor of peace studies at the university of bradford in the united kingdom but a decade on he believes it's become obvious there was and still is a more effective solution pursuing through policing international legal means would not have had the effect that we've had with the war in the in the pulling of prosecutors in september nearly three thousand people died since then for every person who killed eight people two hundred twenty five thousand in the ruprecht minister and elsewhere and it looks like the united states may still have troops in

afghanistan in another twelve or fourteen years time we're into a kind of never ending war so while it was very difficult to consider any alternative at the time given the horror of the atrocity there's a curious thing here is an extraordinary thing is that the more troops have gone in over three years the more the violence has actually escalated it seems to be a counterproductive move as i say this may be understandable in the context of the appalling attacks ten years ago but the reality is it was not working out as expected. well tomorrow we're going to be assessing the effects of a post nine eleven world both on the us and on those in afghanistan where many still don't know the reason why they were invaded in the first place. afghans in this province think about nine eleven and its consequences. and never. know. if i just go and you wouldn't surprise everybody you know for six months and he's going to stone ages where we are. the tragic jet

crash in yugoslavia was overshadowed a major political event taking place in the city and it changed plans including those of president event of speaking of the second and final day of the global policy forum it touched upon the major challenges russia's facing right now i think correspondent and this is now is there. almost certainly a lot of debate and discussion took place out there today for him to spite the tragedy nevertheless the president felt it was the right thing to do to begin his keynote speech with the moment of silence but you could ask then you are citizens were killed in the crash as well as citizens of several other countries let's observe a lot of silence to honor their memory but you went. with the president went on to give his speech it focused on multiculturalism of course that's the theme of this year's forum here in jaroslav all.