he spoke a lot about the briefs in society as snake income winds and how that can lead to problems in society and about how russia needs to take a steady growth choice modernization another theme that has come up very much so happens today forms of course the situation in the mideast and north africa especially concerning libya and syria and in fact joining me now to speak more about that and who better to know about the situation there is the presidential envoy to africa michelle mahrer gayla thank you very much for joining us what about theme that we hear often from the president even russia in general especially over the past couple of years that you can't sue the other countries how do you know that you have the idea that the president made a few days of about it before seizing reference to people that just because someone doesn't do something that we think it should be done if we it's warm and course he was referring to libya how do you in your work nato pound teaching countries perhaps among cities they will consider either by you know for me personally it's

not difficult to defend that he says because there's only one bad thing about democracy cannot impose it's really difficult imposing democracy it should groups within the society and very often these societies and the parts of the world which we're talking call to have to some shall modernize themselves from medieval ages style structure and medieval age just style mentality so i think that it's really very difficult just to bring blueprints from any western or eastern capital to this part of the world and say hey this is the way you have to do it. just finally i want to talk about syria if you think that it will turn into another libya i hope not i hope not that's why russia is working hard in order to build bridges between the government and the opposition of the ninth of september will be receiving again . the interrogation of the syrian opposition we shall be receiving the

representatives of the syrian government from you the twelfth of september we'll be working with you know for you to help syrians to create the kind of docking mechanism between two camps which are free to each other and despite it does not serve the national interests of syria thank you very much transparent franchi comber deal of the presidential envoy to africa and of course over the two day forum pretty much the main theme when it comes to security what's happening there but back to beat of course will continue but a lot of good times here at the global policy forum in your state and thanks for the ok is going to be here in about twenty minutes time with more news tonight on the can which if you will the ice hockey team so tragically almost wiped out in yesterday's plane crash here in russia she's news about how they're going to try to try to rebuild the club a job ahead that's ahead them tonight let's catch up on the business from moscow

next. hello and welcome to business here on our new pipelines are sprouting across russia on the other side of the country from north now the rusco a gas pipeline provides a new artery to markets in asia and business arts is that generally cover travel there for us. this land is surrounded by some of the most and there are jews hungry nations in the world consumption in places such as south korea or china is growing rapidly offering great opportunities for gas pumps to cash in especially now as it has loads of gas close to the region and rated to be exported this new gas pipeline which was very polluted is opening rounds from fact probably into large of us thought he was able to supply third to dealing few big meters of gas annually bazza the russian seed is the round here need just a tiny part of that and that's why gas pump is desperate to find buyers for its

extra gas and isn't talks with several contras but it's not all so easy at the moment stocks with china are dragging over prize and possible supplies to south korea are complicated by risk in transit through north korea but to their reason not a project so made use of the far eastern gas it is an alan g. plant and lots of us talk gazprom is considering building the plants with japan's a total corporation and if it's on stream in five years as planned the gas from here may be shipped to the world's biggest alan g. consumers south korea and japan. plus take a look at the markets now or oil prices are down after posting significant growth in the previous session and that's as weather conditions in the mexican gulf are still far from home with more tropical storms coming to present to the auction. in

the u.s. markets are now makes their board showed first time applicants for jobless benefits climbed last week pushed over this is lower of bots some investors are still optimistic the head of ben bernanke the speech on the u.s. economic outlook. in europe has clawed its way back into positive territory that's the squad the european central bank is cutting its forecast for economic growth in the. yourself p.c.b. also signaled it was no longer considered for the rate hikes. and here russia markets and the trading session on the positive notes the r.t.s. game point two percent although my son still up point six percent let's take a look at some individual share moves on the guy sucks sperm bank put up over its nuclear science after a while the eastern european arm of spank your cynical game does well after reports russo is why the early signs talks to sell its stake in the company and among those on the trends was well the company could face a several billion mobile phone line as the federal assets were not fully service

thinks it's overvalued fuel prices in the end of last year. but on thursday u.s. president barack obama is supposed to new stimulus package the republicans are pushing for cuts to the budget along the three hundred billion dollars plan however from citi group believes both measures are necessary it's just a question of timing. if the announcement from fiscal stimulus would be matched by a commitment to request that the this commission negotiating the spending cuts a bit you know november this commission look at additional in the future to make up for the fiscal listening to that if this kind of thing of the fish goes. from in the future. it would be

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videos for your media projects a free media john to our teeth on tom. without international i'm kevin owen and these are our top stories tonight well as i saw he community is united in grief after russia's locomotive team rooms entirely in a plane crash in the city of. you're looking at a live event here a commemoration ceremony is being held right now in the place where the team was supposed to have played and sportsman and fans all in tears as you can see these pictures coming through from the stadium. out of the headlines the u.k.

government faces a legal action as doctors demand a new inquiry into the shady death of an arms inspector who was the manager of ill britain knew iraq had no weapons of mass destruction and head of the invasion. a middle east build up palestinian start a peaceful campaign for statehood ahead of the u.n. vote while in israel tensions grow as police clashed with protesters calling for a better government. focusing in though on libya for the next few minutes more insight on what's happening there our latest interview coming up next for you. today we're joined by mr thomas hunter burke european commissioner for human rights talking to us from a star's poor thanks very much mr however for joining us now let's get right to where well we know that there were cia prisons in europe and people were tortured and then now you're pushing for the truth of what more should be known but there is a lot more to know because we haven't had the full own for what really

happened and who took the decisions and on what grounds these black sites were established on europeans or of the things that we still have to know what do you think is most important i think we have to learn from history and unfortunately during this period of ten years there are serious human rights violations for committed and we have an atmosphere impunity when it comes to these violations of human rights i think the truth has to come out on board really happened who took the decisions who allowed the establishment of these secret places of detention and thereby allowing torture to take place now this is the story came to light i mean there have been some governments ordering investigations or they found very little so far do you think it's possible that they're deliberately trying to play down and if so is there any proof of that healing so well there is an enormous pressure from washington to keep all this secret in fact instructions from from syria with the

support of the way to those not to give any facts on this so therefore it's not easy to investigate but i think that some of the european governments have been involved they have to decide whether they think that the cooperation between the security agencies are more important than to attack to look into human rights violations and break the country or impunity ok well we're talking here about european officials authorizing these rendition sites but what about those who. actually masterminded and those who were directly involved do you think say officials will ever be held accountable for their actions unfortunately it's not likely but if the european governments could take this step to really put out everything they know and publish that it may start a process in united states where the accountability also there is established but why is it not likely you say this is not likely because this is there is an

atmosphere of security confidentiality around this. notion that when it comes to the activities of a security agency the truce or not be told to the public and i think that is a real problem because here we have had corporation between the united states security agency and european agencies under which human rights violations were seriously seriously violated and it is very important that we know when we know that violations were made that we establish that there should be film critic control of the security agencies activities well there are claims that the u.s. and the u.k. prisoners to be tortured in libya to the gadhafi regime does not seem likely to you yes it's very likely and it fits a pattern and also they are now documents being discovered in tripoli which show

that this specially did happen ok and you've seen a proof of such things happening yourself no not myself but i have been reports lastly from human rights watch showing that there was such activities and typically it is not made. for comment from the cia in washington because they have the policy of never making any public comments on such regulations as the commander of the rebel forces that's. simply he demanded an apology from western powers over who . is a legislation two thousand and four that i love to be he was arrested in bangkok and had to get off the forces for torture now how do you think they're going to explain their alleged murky deals with the coffee to the locals because now they're essentially on the same side i think the question has to be given to to washington . is an explanation given there but he was obviously one of those who were picked up during this so-called war on terror he was in guantanamo that's shown and he

was obviously one of those who were badly treated and i think he and others this is an apology some of them who were brought there to gontran a more or to the secret place and so detention or two. countries of the united states in this where there were torture they were not probably not innocent but still even people who are on good ground suspected they have the right to certain protection when it comes to human rights including not to be tortured now the rebels are now in control and foreigners are reportedly in danger especially black africans because i well there have been accusations of them being about these mercenaries how do you think this will affect the building of a democratic society in libya you know i'm not an expert on the my focus is on europe but obviously there is a problem there and human rights organizations have already reported about problems

when it comes to whole rebels have dealt with africans who have been accused of being mercenaries for if we could just do best in order to ensure that those people are well treated some of them of course may well be genuine refugees from other parts of africa who were trying to reach europe past why libya and what stuck there and i think it's very important that also european governments deal with refugees from libya coming from other parts of africa in line with international standards when it comes to its side. refugee policies oh a looking at the united states now in libya that has been reported what do you think is the area that needs the most attention at the moment and how are they going to going to go about solving these humanitarian problems i mean this is very general can we break them down there first of all it is important to establish security in the country so that the normal life could start again secondly to build democracy because there was no democracy which is very difficult challenge and i

hope that there could be a generous approach from from europe to share the experiences we have when it comes to the steps to be taken in order to build institutions democratic ones and to allow for. genuine willow people to be channeled into the political decision making ok well going back to what you're an expert on those sites what do you think is the next step now that the story house come out into the public in poland they have already started through the prosecutor and investigation and i think it's very important that his work is protected and that there is no it time to slow down his work across the sensitive when relationship with the united states in in rumania there were passengers started there was one investigation by a political group from the senate but the prosecutor has not started an investigation and i really hope that office will now take the initiative and start

analyzing the situation and come up with a report they are saying it's important that the investigation is not blocking earlier you were expressing your concerns that there could be directives from higher up to to not give enough information how do you go about going about that hurdle the way you're dealing with governments here is very difficult because of this notion that activities by the security agencies and their cooperation between themselves should be kept secret at all cost i think that is really the notion that . we have now to start discussing because so many human rights violations have been committed under that notion and the time has come to establish a democratic control of the security agencies they should not be allowed to take action which violate basic human rights yes should not be but do you think that just let's just look at concrete actions we're talking about what is right what is law from your point of view what concrete options are just wondering really legally

speaking will it be possible to get all of the truth out i think it will be very difficult unfortunately but i hope the discussion that may come now will encourage some other politicians to take greater steps and a better position when it comes to this because it is not acceptable that we have states within the states who are run on undemocratic basis and violating human rights the security agencies must be put under democratic control and they are not for the moment in my opinion well you said you are using the tenth anniversary of nine eleven to raise the issue of cia black sites why is that because. you know. i think the first priority of course is to pay respect to the victims of the attack on the united states ten years ago but then we also have at the same time to look at how did the us government and european governments respond to this attack

and unfortunately i think there is a lot of lessons to be learned from how this war on terror so-called war on terror was conducted which allowed for very serious human rights violations which unfortunately also had the effect that terrorism has spread the militant groups have increased. the number of people killed and many of them innocent do in those ten years they also deserve some respect in this situation and therefore i think it's absolutely important that. the way we handled this gruesome attack will be an honest discussion so that we don't repeat this in the future and speaking of the militant groups you just released a report based on your visit to russia's north caucasus which is of course a region are marked by sporadic violence by terrorists how do you assess the struggle against the terrorists over there the struggle is still going on there

have been some positive initiatives taken a lot of money as in put on budgets in order to improve the standard of living in the area. to focus more on the social dimension of this the roots for terrorism which i think is very possible but unfortunately there is still also a problem of impunity that the crimes which have been committed including by law enforcement forces have not been searched satisfactorily addressed and people guilty responsible have not been brought to justice so there is still a need to do more when it comes to that aspect all right well thank you very much for your time mr thomas howard berg human rights commissioner council of europe thank you. thank you.

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headlines tonight the world's ice hockey community is united in grief after the russians locomotive team are almost entirely wiped out their plane crashed in the city of garros love a commemoration ceremony is now being held in the place where the team the supposed to play a sportsman and it's all in tears. and. other top stories tonight the u.k. government faces legal action as doctors demand a new inquiry into the shady death of an arms inspector he was the man who revealed britain knew iraq had no weapons of mass destruction ahead of the invasion. a middle east build a palestinian start a peaceful campaign for statehood ahead of the u.n. vote while in israel tensions grow as police crush with protesters calling for

a better government. you're watching r.t. . thank you for joining me for the latest sports news and the top stories. after tragedy luckily we are subtle name the new coach tributes flow into the thirty seven players trained up died in one space plane crash. while back in action top tennis stars resumed their matches at the u.s. open today rain delay. alex thomas in victory as the world gets set to kick off the all black caps and surely that's the trick says most new zealand to the great chance look the trophy the first time in twenty four years. has been taken towards rebuilding a lot of ice hockey club after wednesday's plane crash kills thirty seven players

and coaching staff for what russian championship winning manager that's what a bureau of retakes the rains are at the sides playing and just outside yaroslavl shortly after takeoff as a team were all reached by their first match of the season another minsk forty three of the forty five people on board giant leaving russia forward alexander gallimore and a flight engineer in a critical condition in a moscow hospital i saw the chiefs said they do all they could to help rebuild the side of those alexander medvedev says he's been inundated with offers from players and coaches volunteering to work with decimated clarke believes a team can be formed in time to take part in the new season those that don't include of russia player rounds of czech stars years of russian sharks they are not like cattle off the american swedish goalkeeper stuff and leave slack is paddled in nature the start of the new season has now been postponed until september the twelfth what wednesday's game between last season's champions sol about your lie of runners up after once was abandoned when the news came through fans and players

alike would clearly stunned by what has happened i saw the stars from the k h l and america's n.h.l. i've been reading the tributes. no history of me but it's all country and one of my friends going to the play and then he goes to play to be a couple years ago or because i'm going just just want to give my condolences to the families in the street stuff for everybody but actually offer them inserted in a very difficult summer. for hard times and how he wanted to soften washington down . you know why these guys. would play against reno you play with them in a certain point. in a fact everybody so your big family everyone knows each other and know someone. you know in this league or the sport worldwide i mean whether they're hockey players or

not that's a huge tragedy and it's awful that she's now. it's you. know it's gone townspeople muschamp. i mean while the russian football union says all this weekend's notches will start with a minute's silence in memory of those who died now another football news spots at moscow have hit back at what they call an outrageously unfair decision to how they strike a valid six game ban but brazil was given the punishment after this tackle on test i think that is why i can face such a crucial in the ligament damage move for six months means i can faithfulness the rest of the domestic season as well as russia's new about twenty twelve qualifying campaign ballots and says the tackle was not malicious and believes he's been mostly treated by the r.f.u. two years ago that a student was involved in a similar clash with on the making by putting a double of who suffered a broken nose. and it's down to the u.s. open tennis where play has finally regime to the rain

a thought to grandson top players getting back into action often voicing their distrust with the organizers who made them play despite writing conditions in new york the backlog was popping up at flushing meadows all out of the two rain hit day . these bus defending champion rafael nadal is back at it again the spaniard is up against luxembourg who would not interfere with round four seed only murray is also an option as well as local faithful is no however on the right mix match against abby farah has once again been delayed due to more water coming from beneath the course likely the sun shining in new york now that's the bad memories remain. with them for the perfect players with nothing but that for the tournament you know. see this is when a lot of money. we are part of the show and they're just working for the not for us they know that still waving come they got us on court so that's that's gonna be possible based on the fans but you know. the hell. in this part of the

show we don't feel protected. now the world championships in what we're going to last long is underway in the russian capital where the athletes competing for the last remaining places next year's london olympics the sport is back in moscow after the city has to take the stiffest kremlin cup just three months ago the world championships were originally set to be held in egypt will move on the revolution in the arab nation earlier this year i thought of the first will be recorded in moscow with laser pistols making their debut at the top tier events but it's also the first world championship to stay for the drawn sports complex in the stadium turned out at the second of molokai is also the only hazard to be international on union has no doubts it will succeed. i'm sure that this will be here and incredible event. and i really want to thank our russian friends for. organ.