the government. we're focusing in though on libya for the next few minutes more insight on what's happening there our latest interview coming up next for you. well today we're joined by mr thomas hummer bird european commissioner for human rights talking to us from a star wars thanks very much mr however for joining us now let's get right to where well we know that there were cia prisons in europe and people were tortured and then now you're pushing for the truth what more should be know there is a lot more to know because we haven't had a full account for what really happened and who took the decisions and on what grounds when these black sites were established on european soil of the things that we still have to know what do you think is most important i think we have to learn from history and unfortunately during this period of ten years there are serious human rights violations for committed and we have an atmosphere

impunity when it comes to these violations of human rights i think the truce has to come out on board really happened who took the decisions who allowed the establishment of these secret places of detention and thereby allowing torture to take place now this is a story came to light i mean there have been some governments ordering investigations will they found very little so far do you think it's possible that they're deliberately trying to play it down and if so is there any proof of them doing so well there is an enormous pressure from washington to keep all this secret in fact instructions from from cia with the support of the way towse not to give any facts on this so therefore it's not easy to investigate but i think that some of the european governments have been involved they have to decide whether they think that the corporation between the security agencies are more important than

tech to look into human rights violations and break the laws for you know impunity ok well we're talking here about european officials authorizing these rendition sites but what about those who. actually masterminded and those who were directly involved do you think say officials will ever be held accountable for their actions unfortunately it's not likely but if the european governments involved could take this step to really put out everything they know and publish that it may start a process in united states where the accountability also there is established but why is it not likely you say this if it's not likely because this is there is an atmosphere of security confidentiality around this. notion that when it comes to the activities of a security agency the truth should not be told to the public and i think that this is a real problem because here we have had cooperation between the united states security agency and european agencies under which human rights violations were seriously

seriously violated and it is very important that we know when we know the violations were made that we establish that there should be democratic control of the security agencies activities well there are claims that the u.s. and the u.k. sent prisoners to be tortured in libya to the gadhafi regime does that seem likely to you yes it's very likely and it fits a pattern and also there are now documents being discovered in tripoli which show that this actually did happen ok and you've seen a proof of such things happening yourself no not myself but there have been reports last week from human rights watch showing that there was such a tape it is and typically this is not made subject for comment from the cia in washington because they have the policy of never make and the public comments on

such revelations of the commander of the rebel forces that's. really he demanded an apology from western powers over here. is a legend dish in two thousand and four and i legibly he was arrested in bangkok and headed to gadhafi forces for torture now how do you think they're going to explain their alleged a murky deals with gadhafi to the rebels because now they're essentially on the same side. i think that question has to be given to to washington there is an explanation to be given there but he was obviously one of those who were picked up during this so-called war on terror he was in guantanamo that's shown and he was obviously one of those badly treated and i think he and others. an apology some of them who were brought there to grant on a more or to the secret places of detention or to partner countries of the united states in this where they were tortured they were not probably not innocent

but still even people who are on good ground suspected they have the right to certain protection when it comes to human rights including not to be tortured now the rebels are now in control and foreigners are reportedly in danger especially black africans because while there have been accusations of them being that off these mercenaries how do you think this will affect the building of a democratic society in libya i'm not an expert on only my focus is on europe but obviously there is a problem there and human rights organizations have already reported about problems when it comes to how rebels have dealt with africans who have been accused to being most news for folks we could just do best in order to ensure that those people are well treated some of them of course may well be genuine refugees from other parts of africa who were trying to reach europe past via libya and got stuck there and i

think it's very important that also european governments deal with refugees from libya coming from other parts of africa in line with the international standards when it comes to its side. refugee policies well looking at the humanitarian crisis now in libya that has been reported what do you think is the area that needs the most attention at the moment and how are they going to going to go about solving these humanitarian problems i mean this is very general can we break them down here first of all it is important to establish security in the country so that the normal life could start again secondly to build democracy because there was no democracy there which is very difficult challenge and i hope that there could be a generous approach from from europe to share the experiences we have when it comes to the steps to be taken in order to build institutions democratic ones and to allow for. genuine willow people to be channeled into political decision making ok well going back to what you're an expert on those black sites what do you think

is the next step now that the story has come out into the public in poland they have already started through the prosecutor and investigation and i think it's very important that his work is protected and that there is no attempt to slow down his work because he's sensitive when nation states with the united states in in rumania their work hasn't really started there was one investigation by a political group from the senate but the prosecutor has not started an investigation and i really hope that the office will now take the initiative and start and are rushing the situation and come up with a report now you're saying it's important that the investigation is not block it earlier you were expressing your concerns that there could be directives from higher up to to not give enough information how do you go about going about that hurdle knowing you're dealing with governments here is very difficult because of

this notion that activities by the security agencies and their cooperation between themselves should be kept secret at all cost i think that is really the notion that we. we have now to start discussing because so many human rights violations have been committed under that notion and the time has come to establish a democratic control of the security agencies they should not be allowed to take action which violate basic human rights yes should not be but do you think that just let's just look at concrete actions we're talking about what is right what is wrong from your point of view but concrete actions i'm just wondering really legally speaking will it be possible to get all of the truth out i think it will be very difficult unfortunately but i hope that the discussion that may come now with encourage some of the politicians to take brave steps and a better position when it comes to this because it's not acceptable that we have states within the states who are run on undemocratic basis and violating human

rights the security agencies must be put under democratic control and they are not for the moment in my opinion well you said you're using the tenth anniversary of nine eleven to raise the issue of cia black sites so why is that because. you know. i think that the first priority of course is to pay respect to the victims of the attack on the united states ten years ago but then we also have a to same time to look at how did the u.s. government and european governments respond to this attack and unfortunately i think there is a lot of lessons to be learned from how this war on terror so-called war on terror was conducted which allowed for very serious human rights violations which unfortunately also had the effect that terrorism has spread the militant groups have increased. the number of people killed and many of them

innocent doing those ten years they also deserve some respect in this situation and therefore i think it's absolutely important that. the way we handled this gruesome attack will be under an honest discussion so that we don't repeat this in the future and speaking of the militant groups you just released a report based on your visit to russia's north caucuses which is of course a region that marred by sporadic violence by terrorists how do you assess the struggle against the terrorists over there the struggle is still going on there have been some positive initiatives taken a lot of money has been put on budgets in order to improve the standard of living in the area. there is a focus more on the social dimension of this the roots for terrorism which i think is very positive but unfortunately there is still also

a problem of impunity that the crimes which have been committed including by law enforcement forces have not been satisfactorily addressed and people guilty responsible have not been brought to justice so there is still a need to do more when it comes to that aspect right well thank you very much jeffrey your time mr thomas howard berg human rights commissioner of the council of europe thank you. thank you. your is when you look for nuclear winter against all odds. in human blondie's measured in barrels. when your brain is most.

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the headlines tonight says the world's ice hockey community is united in grief after russia's lokomotiv team are almost entirely wiped out and playing crash in

the city of. commemoration ceremony is now being held in the place where the team the supposed to play sports when in fact it's all in t. it's. our other top stories tonight the u.k. government faces legal action as doctors demand a new inquiry into the shady death of an arms inspector he was the man who revealed britain knew iraq had no weapons of mass destruction ahead of the invasion. a middle east build a palestinian start a peaceful campaign for statehood ahead of the u.n. vote while in israel tensions grow as police crush with protesters calling for a better government. you're watching r.t. . thank you for joining me for the latest sports news the top stories. after tragedy

luckily our sample name the new coach tributes flow into the thirty seven players trying to hide in one state's plane. while back in action top tennis stars resumed their matches at the u.s. open today rain delay. alan saunders well victory as the wall gets set to go for the all blacks captain choice that's patrick says host new zealand have a great chance to lift the trophy the first time in twenty four years. first step has been taken towards rebuilding a lot of ice hockey club after wednesday's plane crash kills thirty seven players and coaching staff for one russian championship winning manager of retakes the reigns after the sides plane came down just outside yaroslavl shortly after takeoff as the team were on route to play their first match of the season and another minsk forty three of the forty five people on board died leaving russia forward alexandra gallimore and a flight engineer in a critical condition in a moscow hospital i saw the chiefs said they do all they could to help rebuild the

side walk a child was alexander misled of says he's been inundated with offers from players and coaches volunteering to work at the decimated club and believes a team can be formed in time to take part in the new season those that donating food of russia around to the chang checks tells us if russia yana matic and kill off the american swedish goalkeeper and leave slack is pavel demitra the start of the new season has now been postponed until september the twelfth while wednesday's game between last season's champions sol about to lie of runners up at once was abandoned when the news came through fans and players alike were clearly stunned by what has happened ice hockey stars from the k h l and america's n.h.l. have been leading the tributes. history of not only it's a little country and a lot of my friends going to the play and then you go to play to get a couple of years ago and the causes are going just just want to give my

condolences to the families and i mean that it's tough time for everybody but actually awful for me and started on a very difficult summer. for hard times and how he wanted to somehow last down. you know all these guys. you played against you know you play with them in a certain point. in a fax everybody it's a big family everyone knows each other and know someone. you know in this league or in sport worldwide i shall be whether they're hockey players or not it's a huge tragedy and it's awful that she's shown. how it's going to lose people mashallah. i mean while the russian football union says all this weekend's matches will start with a minute's silence in memory of those who died now another football news spotlight mosco have hit back at what they call an outrageously unfair decision to have the

strike of ellis and a six game ban the brazilian was given the punishment after this tackle on test i think i can face such a crucial need ligament damage in the uk for six months it means i can five will miss the rest of the domestic season as well as russia's new about twenty twelve qualifying campaign fellas and says the tackle was not malicious and believes he's been harshly treated by the r.f.u. two years ago and was involved in a similar clash with ben and then making that bloody mess of who suffered a broken nose. alison's the u.s. open tennis where play has finally regime and the rain affected grand slam top players are getting back into action off the voicing their distress with the organizers who made them play despite ready conditions in new york the backlog was piling up at flushing meadows off to the to rain hit day. boss defending champion rafael nadal is back at it again the spaniard is up against luxembourg as you know that in the fourth round four seed on the murray is also an option as well as local

business however on the road it's a match against david farah has once again been delayed due to more water coming from beneath the court likely the sun shining in new york now but the bad memories remain. will feel protected enough for them but that for the you know. this is when a lot of money. we are part of this show and they're just working for the not for us they know that still waiting they call us on court so that's that's can not be possible based on the fans but you know. the players in this part of the show do and we don't feel protected. now the world championships in modern pentathlon is underway in the russian capital with the athletes competing for the last remaining places next year's london olympics the sport is back in moscow off to the city hosted the prestigious kremlin cup just three months ago the world championships were originally set still be held in egypt but removed the revolution

in the arab nation earlier this year a couple of first were recorded in moscow with laser pistols making their debut at the top tier event while it's also the first world championship to stage with a one sports complex in history stadium and albert the second of monaco who is also beyond we president of the international modern pentathlon union has no doubts it will succeed. i'm sure that this will be. an incredible event. and i really want to thank our russian friends for. organizing these were championships at such short notice but i'm sure that the present i mean off my no personally and his team will do their utmost to make these championships a thriving success. to golf now a young up and coming golf is could have a chance to perform on the european tour as the russia challenge cup comes to the moscow region next week this will be the seconds on the cup is being held but this

year the overall prize money has been increased to two hundred fifty thousand euros making it the third largest event of the tournament this competition is a stage of the european professional challenge to which is a tear to go off of and it allows the twenty top and those to qualify for the main european to the following if given new talents the chance to shine as a high level. it may play a crucial role for some young player to make the top trying to and that's what ever want is trying to make her not just make more money in prize money but to make the top twenty in the final writing which gives you an automatic card on the your pants or for the next year so that's pretty much what everyone will be fighting for for those coveted top trying to place it. now the rugby world cup finally gets underway on friday with new zealand taking on tanga the pressure is all the all blacks who haven't won the tournament since nine hundred eighty seven despite regularly being

ranked as the world's best site which of course he caught up with former new zealand camps in shaun fitzpatrick he says this slide is capable of winning the sport's biggest crown for the first time in twenty four years but we're very excited it has been three or four years since we've now and we have we won the rights to high so we'll cup and you don't count why it was not nearly seven the last time we had of the. chinese to new zealand something you know as a nation. of four million people talk about a stadium of four million people and looking forward to welcoming the rugby world and you think a possible capsulize about going to the world cups the world cup set up a target of things gratian. the nice things that have really taken on board what the rugby world cup has got behind it that. i love the rugby i'm sure the. drive is a bar part of just a little bit can offer as a national party has been twenty four years of hurt so far i've you know twenty

eight years i've heard about how i said probably every spoken couple of months early i think there is even one nailed on favorites to defeat to south africa last weekend straight to me slightly different is this speed of learning going on. but never thought obviously he said twenty four years since we last won the world cup there's a little monkey in the back we need to get rid of. the zealand as a team of done very well in the last three years preparing for this world cup but a force in the last couple of games we've had a bit of a blip but in doing that hopefully it's it's you know the plies by them realise that you know it's not going to be as easy as some people think and it's a bit of a reality check for us to those fans and media that you know will cups you know a very very difficult job and for new zealand they've got to play a very. i'm like it's like the world cup final t.v. this could be a blessing in disguise almost just to get expectations down a little because i mean in new zealand a few months ago i was on the ground you know i thought you know i think in terms

of the new zealand astrology with such ease at the start of a trial i should say maybe also a thought that's that will happen again and it's really kind of out and really what we've gone through to the all blacks you know just have haters of the bright demos and if you dominate the breakdown. more often than not the tame the dumb nice right down the one the guy and i showed that had a messianic game where three four weeks earlier mccord put on what. the bright going to spray show and this rubbish i tried the world. did against australia you know. that anything is possible if you reply well we can solve it if you're already using inside you know well you know i think obviously endurance and that's just with the times that injuries is a concern and we saw that with the withdrawing kind of kind of not plying adam thompson having applying not helping one hundred percent upset the balance of the time and that's why what combinations aside volatile this you know injuries is

a concern for graham henry care a great thing and just. as a problem but he backs so hyper about quarter final time and but in doing that because somebody has an option in that debate i took his option and read it well against a study last week so hopefully we've got to cover the. dress. and that's why this bill is in the state without the news on the ass of a plane crash and the commemoration that's not taking place in the the russian capital.

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commemoration ceremony is being held right now in the place where the team supposed to be playing with sportsmen. faces legal action is. it was the man who revealed britain's new iraq had no weapons of mass destruction ahead of the invasion. in the middle east build up. of the u.n. vote. crush with protesters calling for a. hello this is. the eighth of september.