and then an amendment can be passed if three quarters of the states ratify it after it comes out of a convention so you do what we did in wisconsin which is you take it to the people and take it to the streets of state by state and you flight and you can win on the state level where you don't even involve washington so we get rid of the problem in its entirety and we do it the old fashioned way by to the american people and it can be done it is possible and we will do it so just to have you straight you're not announcing any sort of a campaign for office chair or perhaps some sort of new initiative or just keep plowing away on the young turks doing what you've been doing right no no political office absolutely and will we have an organized initiative on this statement ok well i'm going to come back on our show here to announce that now. you know i'm sorry with you no longer than this i can see that at least we can force you to talk about the elk that was started out all trees there were talk about reese witherspoon's exercise routine was she doing i'm curious i could use a good morning tom but maybe i don't know man that old lady that had her good lord

well at least we got to talk about some somewhat more important issues i really do appreciate you for joining us and make sure to come back here when you are launching whatever it is that you may be launching that was jangling or write the host of the young turks. all right well terrorism as we've just discussed is ugly person slightly because it does not discriminate the fun of our field is one thing atrocious of course but the deliberate murder of innocent civilians shocks us all the war words come to mind looking human and just cruel but while most can rally around the idea of terrorists the bad guys what about when the killing is done by the state sanctioned by the judicial system that is supposed to protect the innocent now of course it is not an easy question to answer or even to talk about but it is exactly what came to my mind yesterday when i learned that anthony troy davis will die or slated to die that nearly twenty years after he first entered death row choi davis is said to be executed next wednesday by the state of georgia

the african-american who was convicted of killing a white police officer back in one thousand nine hundred nine and since the original trial seven of the nine witnesses have actually recanted their testimony not to mention the fact that no physical evidence ever linked him to the murder so will an innocent man be executed next week and if so what the heck the act alice but the state of our justice system let's get some analysis now from my next guest she is a filmmaker and a human rights activist john marlow and she is live with us here in our d.c. studios jen thank you so much for taking the time to join us now we've seen former president jimmy carter even the pope a lot of international attention to this case why has this case gotten so much attention worldwide well i think one of the reasons troy davis is case has got the attention that it has is because in in many ways his case is emblematic of all that is problematic with the u.s. . system much of what you just said in your introduction the fact backed that the

state can be. scheduling in preparing to put a man to death for whom the case against him has entirely unraveled troy's case i think highlights so much of what is flawed in our justice system especially when there are claims of and. sense that there really is not an adequate way for those claims to be heard and that a case like tori's can go through the court system appeal after appeal court after court and what's reviewed is up those courts are not able to focus on the larger issues of innocence or whether this conviction was reliable and instead they're focused on on the procedural issues or the technicalities and so. so someone like charlie davis can march steadily towards death row and towards an execution even though there is no solid case against him and he has a very strong emphasis claim this is of course one man but as you've mentioned it is sort of emblematic of bigger issues in our justice system but we're also not

really seeing this covered in the mainstream press or really addressed by not that many of our politicians at least why do you think that is why is this the capital punishment issue not something that we seem to really get into it in terms of a national debate on primetime you know main main discussion what i think and i hope that that is slowly beginning to change and you know for folks who are watching the. republican candidate debate last night i can say that there's segments of our country that have great support for capital punishment when it was announced how many people were periodontal actually against access there was you know cheers i want to i want to play that sound bite for for you i think we have a clip there. governor perry a question about texas your state has executed two hundred thirty four death row inmates more than any other governor in modern times have you. you struggled to sleep at night. with the idea that any one of those might have been innocent no

sir i've never struggled with that at all if you come into our state and you kill one of our children you kill a police officer you're involved with another crime and you kill one of our citizens. you will face the ultimate justice in the state of texas and that is you will be executed what do you make you. were cheering about that but i think you know much as we're hearing those cheers there is a very strong and growing stronger movement of people who are working against the death penalty and her working to abolish it and in fact there's been a lot of really amazing successes there are now sixteen states in the u.s. that have abolished death penalty the most recent was in illinois and they abolished that penalty just a few months ago in march and that came out of long hard organizing and work of you know different people activists people building coalitions and those activists

include people who have been wrongly convicted and were exonerated from death row they include people who have had family members on death row they include family members of murder victims who are calling out and saying you know this is not the kind of justice we are looking for and yet we still have i mean really only meant western nation that has not abolished the death penalty and we see in some states i know on this show we've done a lot of segments about this where they're using execution drugs euthanasia drugs for animals and humans right well yeah and there's so there's still a whole lot of work to be done and it's absolutely true that in the global community the u.s. is becoming more and more isolated by the fact that when you. two thirds of the world has a gaulish the death penalty the us is absolutely progressively isolated in in the policy to still execute prisoners and what you are saying and troy's case actually was very much got caught up in in this it was in the state of georgia that that

sodium pentothal which was one of the three good drug cocktail that had been used in most lethal injections in the country georgia stock of sodium thiopental actually got confiscated by the federal government when it was discovered that they had acquired it illegally from a shitty fly by british pharmaceutical company that operated out of the back of a london driving school and then other states supplies of thought. were also asked to be given up in that same state scrambling for a replacement and what they chose was until barbara tall which as you just stated is once used to execute euthanize animals and now execute humans well it seems embarrassing is it in one word is there still hope for trading of spirit is still hope actually and that hope is is pretty significant because yes the state of georgia has announced that an execution date is planned but the state of georgia does not have to execute troy davis and it should not execute troy and there is

a body as the georgia board of pardons and parole and they can do the right thing and they are actually going fortunately we're out of time but we will we will keep on this issue thank you so much for career to justice justice for troy or they can get lots more information and actions to take those human rights activists general are low and we will have more details on the story on our web site just go to our dot com and of course our you tube channel r.t. dot com slash for you to vote homes that are to america and as always if you want to get in touch with me weigh in on anything you saw this evening on the death penalty or the economy just follow me on twitter at lucy kaplan of we'll be right back. the term used to tak that became synonymous with pure evil. the senseless slaughter of almost three thousand people all stunned the world. and it all seemed like

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you where has changed i mentioned the war has changed both in a practical and in a motivational send. more than anything else the impulses for war have changed forever war is one of the most difficult concepts to define today more than ever

but there still classifies using time periods such as from one thousand fifteen thousand one hundred eighteen and some one hundred forty thousand one hundred forty five thank god days there's a war and people have ignored it when it started but what is most worrying is not the fact that it's uncertain when it will end but i was thinking the real problem is that it is not even known if it is going to come to an. absolute future war will be won with no soldier troops will still exist but it will be an invisible. illo. thanks to all the war has evolved substantially in time and still terms of where centuries and millennia the war has been by dimensional it is being fought on the mainland and in the sea. the first gap in the war evolution can be compared to

a few. in evolution that one man assumed the upright position of the upright position in the evolution is the vertical position of the conflict when the airplane became a weapon it starts to become possible to materially turn the whole battle dynamic upside down or to fight back in the day the people had to leave home to go to war to fight it was like a football match in a stadium. nowadays the people play football in the streets war is widespread. we don't need to wait for sarajevo and for someone to get close to a car to start opening fire here we just need someone clicking with the mouse able to give the first of the impulses and make it begin as if it was a line of dominoes fall so these don't look pieces fall one over the other until the end of the whole chain for you know. we just have to think about the energy supply finance communications and the transport system.

in a while it will be possible to apply it to the whole climate. issue. let's think for a while back to nine eleven it was a terrorist attack we can all agree on this. call of the terrorist attack we were fair to the purpose of the motivation but if you look at deeply into it i've got an act of war highly asymmetrical because no one weapons have been used to it that i call them toasters because we are so familiar with the airliners and to see them and to catch them to us they're like a household appliance the same as a toaster well these household appliances these toasters have been used to come weapons. over to. thousands eight hundred

casualties at present i think that there are around seventy thousand workers on the health of oratory is affected by cancer just in the municipality of flora manhattan whole goodish additionally they have over one hundred fifty thousand citizens affected by different illnesses such as a never ending call for the long cancer leukemia jamie of whom thoma us and the sicknesses create. a new p.f. i hope that the person that's cause that spirit will realize the all to common peace actions. the collapse of two skyscrapers flaws the explosion of airplanes over the case of the mainly composed of how the metal and the dust hit and generated from these explosions. to clive's the

facts of the original explosion. they generated a pollutant and new york citizens are still suffering the look comes a bit of a. fire. when the first airplane hit the first twin tower i was in a military environment in a high command place. as a matter of fact first the time immediately followed by the second one was being seen as the beginning of world war three. i'm not talking about rational thought it was the instinctive response yes it was something like a vent of fear an emerging fear that found its answer in the form of a stereotype of world war three. if it ever happens. world war three will probably not be a clash between two armies so the class of two techno. ologies. perhaps world war

three has already begun and we didn't even notice it because it's not a traditional war on the battleground. of the we'll let's start by saying that by my reckoning this is the fourth war not the third that we already had a third conflict in the cold of the cold war. in my opinion the fourth world war is already in progress but it isn't fought with the aid of weapons it is a mistake to fight using weapons if you always loose all the participants loose it's. ok i specially now we have such powerful weapons that could be dragged into a foolish war with hundreds of thousands of casualties this is the main risk we are playing we are assuming enormous risks and we aren't even aware of it does it have to be given to become. bad.

again that is nuclear weapons have surely marked a strong revolution in both military and security affairs in the middle east the for their creation there had always been a shortage of firepower in relation to the wishes of strategic. nuclear weapons provided firepower greater than any political purpose rationally prosecutable. there for nuclear weapons specially during the cold war being known war weapons. and what is happening now adays is the normality there is no order a great change with a continuous redefinition of the international order they can lead to unexpected results you have a redefinition of new roles and a change will weaken nor what is useful what is useless and what is harmful to new subjects are emerging almost every day and it is unknown if these subjects will be good or evil. you just have to think about the international finance and so

yesterday we thought that that would have been the universal solution to all the problems in your as now it has become one of the enemies to fight against. what has changed in the war concept is not just its definition or its idea the war changed in the way it is fault and in its motivations. more than anything else what has changed is the impulses for the war. since the peace of westphalia the war had finally become an affair between sovereign states the nowadays it is not a war a confrontation between sovereign states anymore going to visit confrontation

between wills between different interests. not just between organizations but also between organizations. going to take out what has modified the concept of war on the missional one to the current one is the fall of the agreements established during the westphalia treaty. the treaty implied the wars are an affair between states because when a country was defeated on the battlefield except in the political defeat and turned into an ally of the winner. nowadays the war is not an affair between states anymore because it became more expansive and the profits had reduced. the present it depends on the relative productiveness of the different economies in other terms on the competitiveness of the different countries taken a system. in

an era where the states least power we see on the other hand the growth of the corporations it is easy to think about the american corporations because they are the most powerful ones we could also talk about the swiss ones that aren't under the spotlight as much as the americans. but they still exist they are strong and can determine the future of the whole world and why because they have more. than the state's. corporations or economic but aren't subject to a government anymore back in the day some governments have their own corporations today it's not like that anymore today the corporations own the states they have states pay their commands. there are no rules of connection between the economic

and the political power of the economic power or at least the people the leader. of the state as an institution. nowadays the state is a mere agents that provide services who is intended to be the user of the services . a part of them are for the citizens most of them are intended for the people that assume economic power which nowadays in this particular historical context economic power is the only real power. the dimension of the war is symbolic as we said that it's a clash between different wills in order to pursue interests. as the interests manages the war. the subject that manages the interests is not the state anymore.

the hugo chavez in venezuela believes that a statesman is the one that manages the state. if that is truth he is the last one left. in the rest of the world we see that strong economic interests develop connections with the state organization we aren't talking about the whole concept of multinational company. the multinational company was a corporation made of people from different states here we are talking about corporations that can influence several states to have states at their disposal. to go ahead and set a symphony but we have to think that in italy we just experienced a case that can be key to understanding what a corporation is and what a state is that if it is true but the head of the italian military secret services

of the phones under the control of in the talon corporation that while i'm not going to mention the name of this corporation but it is easy to figure out i spend this is symbolic of the loss of the importance of the state. status of the state has changed since it lost almost all its purgatives it isn't the void is always filled by something that is why the corporations are progressively taking the place of the state. in american comic books and movies because the theme of a world led by the corporations is nothing new. as the state is going to withdraw even in that which concerns military and intelligence affairs surely the corporations will be progressively more capable of producing events which events that can result in a war after all and the last wars fought in the middle east the importance of troops that back in the day would have been called mercenaries presenter called

contractors is evident straight up sort of the day before your job where nowadays the war really has an asymmetrical dimension but what i mean is that war is not a clash between two different armies. is more a clash between two different wills to a certain idea or to deny something from the a hornet's assertion and deny. are nowadays the inputs for the war. perhaps they may experience some interruptions where to a large extent they carry on being the same wars. we have so nowadays there are three different approaches to war three different types of war which are firstly there is the classic war with an open frontal clash between two armies and so on. secondly there is the stabilization and destabilization war

between countries with one of the opponents attempting to stabilize a country or an area and the other one through in the opposite of the stabilizing factor. and the third is the concept of war against terrorism a concept introduced in the last few years by the us government and the broader classic your scenario such as the iraq invasion which is the proof of the intimate connections between these three different types of war backlash. in the fight against terrorism the relation between the attacker and the defender is neither equal nor symmetry. it is unclear who is attacking and who is defending all the boundaries ethical spatial temporal and technological have vanished. now adays an opponent using archaic tools like the taliban in afghanistan can seriously harm super advanced forces and this is really happening now to us british

and even italian troops in that scenario. as well. our weakness in the fight against terrorism consists of the fact that the terrorists specially the suicide bombers are ready to die while we aren't creating change due to this fact we already started in a losing position. the second half will never so. let's take a person that is not afraid of dying on another one that maybe is part of a voluntary military service because he needs a better wage the person that's how they went back home is surrounded by comforts another one that isn't scared of dying because he doesn't have anything to lose again a person with a strong ideology and another one considering the battle as an ordinary job in any

town well and the physical clash begins one of them will surely experience more troubles he will be political. not only different motivations different technologies different tools but also a different idea of what the war is to make this phenomenon of the wharf and all that to be highly on. and balance not in favor of the stronger side but in favor of who has less to loose me. and let me keep. the. qaeda there's not a need to exist we are using these terms and in negative way reinforcing the al qaeda ideology. it gives us this product this death products under the al qaeda

brand it works exactly like a supermarket and. agency or any other economic entity that wants to be recognized under that particular brand. that is what causes the real damage is not the terrorism itself the real damage comes from us from our fear of terrorism. if you look into the terrorist attacks that we experienced this may sound incredible but the number of casualties it appears so great to us is still well below the casualties caused by car accidents during the normal weekend for example. nevertheless the real strong impact comes from people's reaction to terrorism the economic damage the obstacles to our possibility of freely traveling and so on.