wearing a star of david says identify with the people of israel doesn't ever say he's done a fine with that government of israel though is basically what you're saying is he's for a senseless slaughter of innocents and therefore he should be president enough to know what's going on there is not the message that's making very clear the united states does not give aid to these really society at all the u.s. gives three billion dollars every year to to the israeli government but the money comes in the form of vouchers by which the israeli government can only buy in their work and made weapons so let's be very blunt about this is a subsidy to the u.s. arms industry that's what this money is for so when an obama or painting or any other u.s. politician are talking about and sustaining the friendship with israel and the longstanding alliance between the u.s. and israel what they're actually saying the u.s. will continue to subsidize the arms industry and make sure that the middle east will continue to be very volatile very violent so that is a little continued guy weapon so that the neighbors of israel will continue to buy

more weapon and that will create huge profits for the u.s. arms manufacturers so that make the live the life of israeli citizens any better certainly not but it does make the life of israeli prime minister netanyahu back because he knows that the one weapon he still has by which he can plan it or at least he's hoping to sign a protest with is war if there's going to be another war in the middle east if there's going to be violent clash with the palestinians or with him in lebanon then it always iran then in the name of a state of emergency beacon recruits and the young people and i'm no longer be in the streets in the. plaza demonstrating that instead it will be uniform and fighting a war and that will be the end of the protests i asked my twitter a cat last ties or that sweater to ask is a class and a lot of questions refer to war and i get that a second but before i did. allow me to continue on these protests here saying that

the needs of the warfare state in israel is primarily a warfare state cannot go along paris with the welfare state so the protesters are they how are they going to square that circle is there any way to transform the israeli economy which is currently now almost entirely contingent upon the war how are they going to transform the israeli economy what can i do to make israel something less of a pariah and more of a functioning economy that's interested in the betterment of itself and those around him and he's an economist not really contingents or mainly on war a. military part of the economy is both twelve percent that's a lot that's more than any other country in the world probably but it's leaves eighty eight percent which is not military related and these eighty percent or more most of the people that's where people where you find it doctors and teachers and

social workers people who are who are barely making and. without addressing the deep roots of injustice in the israeli palestinian society in the fact that there are millions of dollars they were a few g.'s who have every right to return but they're not allowed to do it without addressing the issue of and the fact that israel did close it defiance of the jewish state so that palestinians cannot be equal citizens in israel without these issues and of course the occupation of the west bank in the gaza strip where about a third of the population are not citizens subject without any rights that are addressing iverson b.'s three issues there is not going to be a real change in the way that these are issues that it works but we were talking before about the violence and should the demonstrators use violence i would say very clearly divided. the protesters should not turn violent they don't need to to

change israeli society the need to do exactly the opposite they need to refuse to take up arms and any israeli youngest lady who refuses to become a soldier for yet another imperialist war in the middle east yet another kind of distraction by the israeli government to distract from the social issues they're going to bring the real change they're going to allow the most important issues to come to the fore issues of justice well said selby i do believe the tipping point of a nasa louvin toward refusing to serve in the israeli defense national is upon us for the first time there is a clear understanding of most of the protests there is that it's likely that the government is going to try to use war to silence the demonstrations and that the security and excuse is really not nothing more than an excuse and that's that's something very that is never been the case before pride my style what role has the

increase in food prices played in regard to the recent mass protests n.h.s. that it could lead to more food related riots the food prices were the trigger for the right the first thing that protestors organized the first kind of protest was overcrowded she's right and they did this by use of facebook and twitter and they organized it math a consumer boycott within israel and they were excited by the success of this campaign and i think that was one of the reasons that they felt more confident to move into other issues because cottage cheese is important but it's not the most important thing the things that people and need much much more acutely in the cheese but yeah good prices in israel actually very expensive more expensive than they are in countries where the income per capita is double and the reason for that of course is the massive burden of security costs of the army because of the condition all right second class incomes are random u.k. human onto. asks what is the probability of israel attacking or blowing up iran's

this is the big the big question they are this is a very big question and i'm not a prophet i wouldn't be able to answer this but there is a there is a real risk and unfortunately their world community is not doing enough to try to prevent this kind of war which could be catastrophic iran is doing at the moment nothing to provoke israeli attack by germany for example actually sending israeli air it is wrote the marine that could be used to launch such an attack and i think one of the beacons of hope at least for me is that a worsening relations between israel and turkey mean that it's much more difficult for israel to seventy planes over to bomb iran without cooperation with turkey and so maybe there is also sort of a line through to that story ok share everything so much for being on the kaiser report thank you max and that's going to do if it is this not a cause report with me max kaiser and stacey however our thank my guests here have

or if you want to send me an e-mail please do so at kaiser report of our p.t.v. dot ru until i sign the backscatter saying. the little girl. the term became synonymous with pure evil. the slaughter of almost three thousand people stunned the world. and it all seemed like a nightmare. then years on. r.g.p. remembers the attacks and insults from. a look back at nine eleven on our key. is. if it's going to. be.

i am. welcome to be a loner so we'll get the real headlines with none of the mersey we're coming live out of washington d.c. i'm going lister in for a loan today we are coming up on ten years since the attacks of nine eleven as a nation still spending billions of dollars and lives on a war on terror started in response to those attacks and with government still spying on citizens through provisions of the patriot act and with many questions about the attack still unresolved how far has the u.s. come one decade later will try to get some answers then we'll talk about the

economy as we get ready to hear a speech from president obama tonight on his jobs plan but first what are the mainstream media missed. right last night maybe it caught it there was the g.o.p. debate of possible g.o.p. presidential contenders if you did not there has been plenty of recapping today but what we want you to pay attention to is this very jarring moment take a look. at your state is executed two hundred thirty sword that's rolling made more than any other governor in modern times as you. ok did you catch that that was applause rick perry texas governor getting a loud applause from the crowd for executing more people on death row than any other governor in modern time ok that aside let's hear what rick perry

had to say for himself. with the idea that any one of those might have been innocent no sir i've never struggled with it at all it's the state of texas is a. very soft for a very clear. process in place you will face the ultimate justice in the state of texas and that is you will be executed before you make you feel. khamis that more applause but back to rick perry no he loses no sleep over possibly killing innocent death row inmates now in response to all of this and mainstream media did take some time out to talk about this moment and talk about perry's record on the death penalty even raising some concerns about it. rick perry gets a big applause last night at the republican debate refusing to apologize for his stance on the death penalty cameron todd willingham execution still haunts rick

perry rick perry was asked about if he'd ever lost sleep at night for any of the executions that he ordered to go forward. here's our question though why does it take a big moment on national t.v. with a possible presidential candidate to bring attention to rick perry's record on the death penalty or the issue of wrongful convictions and capital punishment at all we've brought up troy davis for example here on this show just yesterday where has the mainstream media been for him yesterday a date was set for his execution it's going to be later this month that's after a u.s. supreme court decision cleared the way if you don't know who's davis well he's a high profile death row inmate who claims he is innocent of killing a savannah police officer now there is no physical evidence linking davis to the crime and seven out of the ten witnesses in his trial later recanted or changed

their testimonies and those are just a few reasons he's become a focal point for anti death penalty activists as well as critics of the u.s. criminal justice system around the world and in fact it's not just davis who has an issue here when it comes to wrongful convictions since one thousand nine hundred eighty nine there have been two hundred seventy three exonerations of wrongfully convicted prisoners through d.n.a. evidence seven eighteen of them did time on death row seventeen were going to be killed by the state that's according to the innocence project and that makes a clear case for caring about this issue that extends far beyond rick perry's governorship and far beyond the borders of texas now for perry's part the two thousand and four execution of cameron todd willingham who you see right there has raised questions about whether perry did in fact allow an innocent man to be executed willingham was

executed for an arson that many fire experts believe he did not commit perry denied a stay of execution for this man based on new scientific and. alice says that there was no evidence of arson at his house so there is a clear case for that that's perry for the mainstream media's part we applaud them a little no kind intended for finally devoting some headlines to perry's death row record after the spectacle of the g.o.p. debate last night but that it took a sensational moment for them to devote any attention to an issue they have been missing while other innocent lives are possibly being lost that is what the mainstream media missed. all right we're coming up here on the ten year anniversary of nine eleven and

though we know about osama bin laden's death and wars that have cost the country one point two trillion dollars at least that's according to the national priorities project there is still a lot we don't know questions remain about just what u.s. intelligence agencies knew before the attacks how the attacks could have been prevented and whether the al qaeda militants who flew planes into the world trade center had the support of states believed to be u.s. allies saudi arabia remains a big question mark some possible reasons for these unanswered questions well for one reports the majority of the nine eleven commission's investigative records remain sealed in the national archives this is even though the commission had told the archives to make most of this material public back in two thousand and nine and just to remind you the nine eleven commission issued their report back in two thousand and four so what are some of those records that the public still has not allowed to see the reportedly a thirty page summary of

a two thousand and four interview with president bush and vice president dick cheney the only time the two were formally a question about the events surrounding the nine eleven attacks also a vast. of information on al qaeda and u.s. intelligence efforts before the attacks and those years before now this the nine eleven commission report records that we haven't seen in addition to it there are twenty eight pages which were redacted from the congressional joint inquiry into nine eleven that was finished back in two thousand and two now those pages have never been declassified here to talk about why all of this is and maybe to help us figure some of nine eleven mysteries up our next guests they've combed through the thousands of official documents that have recently been made available not to mention thank countless interviews in the years since nine eleven write this book joining me from our new york studio is anthony summers and robin lawn they wrote this book you see here the eleventh day the full story of nine eleven and osama bin

laden i want to thank you guys both so much for being with me now one of the big takeaways from the adaptation of your book that i read was your evidence of saudi arabia's possible connection to nine eleven and the hijackers of course to remind people fifteen of the hijackers were from saudi arabia and of course saudi arabia being an ally of the united states so what do you see as saudi arabia's connection to nine eleven. i think it's complicated. it's true fold in the use leading up to. saudi arabia and that means really the royal family the government of saudi arabia which are the same thing we're concerned the son of bin laden would turn his guns effectively on the regime would work towards an overthrow of the rogue regime in saudi arabia and to that end what we would call if we were starting not the

saudis but say organized crime than last year they paid protection money millions of dollars in money that came direct from the saudi official purpose were paid by princes whom we've named in the book to al qaeda and osama bin laden to make sure that they weren't attacked in saudi arabia the second interesting level is the level of which that ins and we trust develop more of this but the two official investigations found the vestiges of evidence that the saudis in california. produced a sort of support network for the first future nine eleven hijackers the first of the terrorists to land in the united states twenty months before the operation was carried up and just in the last few days i've been able to to develop information

that there was a similar support network in west florida so are you saying essentially that according to all of the sources and documents that you called this saudi arabia with a state sponsor of the nine eleven hijackers. and i'm not saying exactly that not to say that the entire regime was behind. nine eleven i'm saying that elements of the saudi regime were probably beyond that. now i noticed one thing any kind of you just touched upon it it's not exactly clear what the role was. but there are a number of conflicting reports among the sources that you interviewed so do you feel you have just cited evidence that saudi arabia some elements played a role or do you feel like there is still a gray area. we think there is a bit of a gray area because there are sort of two different things that could have happened

some of the evidence suggest a support network for the terrorists and a very negative way saudi officials themselves came out after nine eleven and talked about the fact that the american intelligence was at fault for not listening to their saudi counterparts who they claimed had very good ties into al qaida and were in fact surveilling some of the terrorists and had warned the u.s. government oh is that the sum of their presence now which way does this cut. the saudis surveilling the nine eleven hijackers was it an intelligence operation gone wrong or is the more negative information portrays it was there this element of support and money being funneled to the hijackers it is still a gray area what we need is to see those twenty eight pages you talked about of the joint inquiries report released. they were not released under president bush

president obama has told members of the nine eleven commission nine eleven families that they would release the pages that still has not happened it's time to put that to the document be released in full there if there's nothing there's nothing to hide then there's no reason not to release it the saudi government sells claims that they're happy for it to be released so then why do you think it hasn't because in your excerpt i read you have evidence from sources saying that george bush didn't really said because it would affect the u.s. as a relationship with saudi arabia because it would also protect possibly u.s. agencies that might look bad but under obama who you mentioned has said in the past if you will make this information public why do you think it hasn't been. and we didn't say it officially he said it through the window of when the breach families met in short york at the inauguration and i believe. one of them asked him said look there's the twenty eight pages of this report senator graham former senator

graham who co-chair of the committee wants them released could you share your way to getting them released and he said well yes i think i would put i think that was possibly. a chance remark that he wishes he had made could he wish it back but bottom line is oil oh it was the bottom line under president bush and it's the bottom line now under the present administration i have to say that although we can only speculate because there's so much secrecy surrounding this whole about it that the american administrations have appeared to put the importance of the oil relationship with saudi arabia above the interests of the truth of the american public knowing the truth so do you believe that you have added and that if this report was released it would change the relationship between the u.s.

and saudi arabia and does exactly you're talking about access to oil. oh no we haven't seen much in those pages so we can't answer that question ok what about as far as what else came out of your reporting that is either gray in the nine eleven commission's reports or believed to be and those were doctored pages of the congressional inquiry aside from state sponsors of terror what else really stuck out to you. well there's one intriguing story that you may have seen referenced in today's new york times which is the story of the u.s. defense of its own air space on the morning of nine eleven which is told very vividly in the audiotapes from the n.s.a. and from that nor out and in the transcripts of those in the in the files been on eleven commission what we've been able to do which no one else has been able to do is piece together the story of the shootdown authorization on that on that morning

at one point when many planes were appeared to be parents and perhaps hard to our. it became necessary for a decision to be made as to whether or not there would be authorization given to shoot down a civilian airliner now this is a solution that should only be made by the president or by the secretary of defense or by the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff on the morning of nine eleven the very best evidence now shows and we documented very carefully in our book that that decision was in fact made by the vice president was not in that chain of command and passed along and cost along to people under beneath him outside the ordinary military chain of command very interesting information coming out of your piecing together ten years later sense for much of the public we have been able to with with the documents it having been released we certainly appreciate you coming on the show thanks so much everyone should read the book. thank you thank you. and

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ft. welcome back well if you've been to minnesota maybe you know that it's home to one of the largest malls in the u.s. the mall of america and with a mall that spans two miles filled with stores you can imagine that there are malls that curity how the gable to handle and protect a large number of people thanks to t.l.c. we got a chance to see just how this group operates and their reality series while cops and all of america to the average shopper move america is tomorrow's read to what i

was doing during the. super training facility the home to its elite security force. to this room it's church protecting the largest mall in the near impossible to reject or anyone here. as you can see there's a group of mall cops they're known as ram is a node joke they train as if they're part of a small army and that is thanks in large part to the head of mall security who is incidentally a former israeli defense forces sergeant now throughout the series you can see how this group of law enforcement takes a very serious approach to counterterrorism. cultures that if you're in there is just the skewed hundreds of truth seekers looking for any would maybe are terrorists. this group's idea of style training may show but doesn't go too far in their counterterrorism efforts the center for investigative reporting

at n.p.r. released a new report on wednesday showing how rand security practices do in fact violate civil rights the report shows how mall of america's security team goes after individuals who are taking pictures or even just appear nervous when being approached by cops in the c.i.r. n.p.r. report one hundred twenty five incidents were recorded and when you look at the statistics only thirty four percent of the individuals questioned were white sixty five percent shows interrogated blacks or individuals of middle eastern descent what's even more surprising is that almost half just forty nine percent of those who were interrogated had their information forwarded to other law enforcement agencies now some of those other agencies include the minnesota police but some of these individuals had their profiles sent to customs enforcement the joint terrorism task force and the f b i and we should know that in a majority of those interrogations between ram and

a questionable individual any photos that the individual had taken were confiscated and in some cases people were subjected to deport deportation hearings based on their interaction at the mall of america so let's connect the dots here almost two thirds of those people who were deemed suspicious were not white and approximately half of those were subsequently reported to major intelligence groups like isis or terrorism task forces or the f.b.i. . does this sound like a case of profiling to anyone should people really have to worry about going to a local mall placed on some sort of suspicious persons list with the f.b.i. when they leave or face possible deportation and for what taking photos of them all of america especially when the u.s. is in a recession whether you think it's extreme or not it may go to show that in our post nine eleven society when it comes to surveillance and security these days maybe anything goes.