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you know no political office absolutely no good will we have an organized initiative on this statement ok well i'm going to come back on our show here to announce that now. you know i'm sorry with you no longer than i think you see but at least we can force you to talk about the elk that was going to help terri. reese witherspoon's exercise routine what's she doing i'm curious i could use that but maybe i don't have that old lady that had her good lord well at least we got to talk about some somewhat more important issues i really do appreciate you for joining us and make sure to come back here when you are launching whatever it is that you maybe ranching was jank we go right to the host of the young turks trial we heard from james about his predictions for the president's speech now let's hear from the president himself let's take that speech life i think the american people to know the american jobs act will not answer the deficit it will be paid for and here's how. the agreement we passed in july will cut government
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spending a trillion dollars over the next ten years and also charges this congress to come up with an additional one point five trillion in savings by christmas tonight i'm asking you to increase that amount so that it covers the full cost the american jobs act and a week from monday i'll be releasing a more ambitious deficit point plan that will not only cover the cost of this jobs bill but stabilize our debt in the long run. well you heard the president himself we've been waiting for this speech now i guess we have to wait for another one or at least another plan whether or not there will be any action on it is a whole different question and that is one that our guests will try to answer live here at eight pm but for now i want to move on to a different story a story about injustice in the judicial system really twenty years ago after he first entered the death row troy davis is now set to be executed by the state of
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georgia and the african-american was convicted of killing a white officer a police officer back in one thousand eighty nine but since his original trial seven seven of the nine witnesses actually recanted their testimony mind you no physical evidence ever linked him to that murder so will an innocent man be executed next week and what does that tell us about the state of our justice system let's one of the questions i posed to filmmaker and human rights activist jen marlo here's her take. well i think one of the reasons troy davis is case has gotten the attention that it has is because in many ways his case is emblematic of all that is problematic with the us penalty system much of what you just said in your introduction the fact the fact that the state can be. scheduling in preparing to put a man to death for whom the case against him has entirely unraveled cory's case i think highlights so much of what is flawed in our justice system especially when there are claims of innocence that there really is not an adequate way for those
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claims to be heard and that a case like juries can go through the court system appeal after appeal court after court and what's reviewed as opposed courts are not able to focus on the larger issues of innocence or whether this conviction was reliable and instead they're focused on on the procedural issues or the technicalities and so. so someone like troy davis can march steadily towards death row and towards an execution even though there is no solid case against him and he has a very strong innocence claim this is of course one man but as you've mentioned it is sort of emblematic of bigger issues in our justice system but we're also not really seeing this covered in the mainstream press or really addressed not that many of our politicians at least why do you think that is why is this the capital punishment issue not something that we seem to really get into it in terms of a national debate on primetime you know main main discussion what i think and i
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hope that that is slowly beginning to change and you know for folks who are watching the. republican candidate debate last night i can say that there is segments of our country that have great support for capital punishment when it was announced how many people rick perry had actually it in texas there was you know cheers i want to i want to play that sound bite for for you i think we have a clip there. governor perry a question about texas your state has executed two hundred thirty four death row inmates more than any other governor in modern times have you. struggled to sleep at night. with the idea that any one of those might have been innocent no sir i never struggled with that at all if you come into our state and you kill one of our children you kill a police officer you're involved with another crime and you kill one of our citizens. you will face the ultimate justice in the state of texas and that is
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you will be executed what do you make you. were cheering about that but i think you know much as we're hearing those cheers there is a very strong and growing stronger movement of people who are working against the death penalty and her working to abolish it and in fact there's been a lot of really amazing successes there are now sixteen states in the u.s. that have abolished the death penalty the most recent was in illinois and they abolished that penalty just a few months ago in march and that came out of long hard organizing and work of different people activists people building coalitions and those activists include people who have been wrongly convicted and works on aerated from death row they include people who have family members on death row they include family members of murder victims who are calling out and saying you know this is not the kind of justice we are looking for and that we still have i mean we're the only western
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nation that has not abolished the death penalty and we see in some states i know on this show we've done a lot of segments about this where they're using execution drugs. drugs for animals and humans right well yeah and there's so there's still hold of work to be done and it's absolutely true that in the global community the u.s. is becoming more and more isolated by the fact that you know. two thirds of the world has abolished the death penalty the us is absolutely progressively isolated in in the policy to still execute prisoners and what you were saying and troy's case actually was very much got caught up in in this it was in the state of georgia . that sodium pentothal which was one of the three good for a cocktail that had been used in most lethal injections in the country georgia stock of sodium thiopental actually got confiscated by the federal government when it was discovered that they had acquired it illegally from a shady fly by british pharmaceutical company that operated out of the back of
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a london driving school and then other states. were also asked to be given up in that same state scrambling for a replacement and what they chose was pentobarbital which as you just stated is once used to execute euthanize animals and now execute humans it seems embarrassing is it in one word is there still hope for troy davis is still hope actually and that hope is is pretty significant because yes the state of georgia has announced an execution date is planned but the state of georgia does not have to execute troy davis and it should not execute troy and there is a body that the georgia board of pardons and parole and they can do the right thing and that was human rights activist jen marlowe well the president is still speaking but we will see you right back here in about a half an hour but have some live analysis on live reaction to obama's jobs push of course the big question on everyone's mind will it be enough to save his job now as
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always you can get more info on anything you've seen here on our website and follow me on twitter you can get more info there as well i will see you right back thanks for watching. the term used to tak that became synonymous with pure evil. the senseless slaughter of almost three thousand people all stunned the world. and it all seemed like a nightmare. john years on. r.g.p. remembers the attacks and suffer from. a look back at nine eleven. download the official antti how to change the phone the i pod touch from the i.q. chops to. lunch all sheesh life on the go.
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video on demand cheese money gold coast's an r.s.s. feeds now in the palm of your. question on the call to come get us sometimes you see a story and it seems so for life you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else and you hear see some other part of it and realize that everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm tom harpur welcome to the big picture. more news today violence is once again flared up the film these are the images the world seeing from the streets of canada. giant corporations are today.
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the world has changed dimensions. more has changed both in a practical and in
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a motivational sense. than anything else the impulses for more change rather more is one of the most difficult concepts to find in a more than ever but they are still classified as using time period such as from one hundred fifteen to maintain eighteen and some mention forty to one hundred forty five. days there's a good and people have ignored it when it started but what is most worrying is not the fact that it's uncertain when it will die and i think the real problem is that it is not even known if it is going to come to an. absolute future wars will be won with those soldiers and the troops will still exist but it will be an invisible. illo. thanks.
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the war has evolved substantially in time and small terms where centuries and millennia the war has been by dimensional it is being fought on the mainland and in the sea the more spackle of them are the first gap in the war evolution can be compared to a few. in evolution when man assumed the upright position. the upright position in the evolution is the vertical position of the conflict when the airplane became a weapon it starts to become possible to materially turn the whole battle dynamic upside down back in the day the people had to leave home to go to war because it was like a football match in a stadium. nowadays the people play football in the streets war is widespread. we don't need to wait for sarajevo and for someone to get close to a car to start opening fire. we just need someone clicking with the mouse able to give the first of the impulses to make it again as if it was a line of dominoes. pieces fall one over the other until the end of the whole chain
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if you know. we just have to think it might be energy supply finance communications and the transport system that appears in a while it will be possible to apply it to the whole planet. nation. let's think for a while back to nine eleven it was a terrorist attack we can all agree on this the let me call it the terrorist attack we were fair to the purpose of the motivation but if you look at deeply into it's an act of war highly asymmetrical because no one weapons have been used to play colon toasters because we're so familiar with the airliner and to see them and to
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catch them to us they're like a household appliance the same as a toaster. these household appliances toasters been used to become weapons. to. thousand eight hundred casualties at present i think that there are around seventy thousand workers on the health floor its rate is affected by cancer just in the municipality of flora manhattan told goodish additionally you have over one hundred fifty thousand citizens affected by different illnesses such as a never ending car for cancer leukemia lymphoma and all of the sicknesses clinics. to be kept i hope that the person that's calls that spirit will realize the all to common piece actions. the collapse of two skyscrapers in the
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clouds stakes splosion of to enter planes over the case of the mainly composed of how the metal and the dust here generated from these explosions. deprives the facts of the original explosion. they generated a pollutant and new york citizens are still suffering the book because of that cover. when the first airplane hit the first twin tower i was in a military environment and a high command place out of the constitution. as a matter of fact there's first attack immediately followed by the second one was being seen as the beginning of world war three. i'm not talking about irrational thoughts it was the instinctive response of yes it was something like a revenge of fear an emerging fear that founded in the form of
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a stereotype world war three. if it ever happens the world war three will probably not be a clash between two armies either so the class of two taken. ologies. perhaps world war three has already begun and we didn't even notice it because it's not a traditional war on the battleground. of the phenomena will let's start by saying that by my reckoning this is the fourth war not the third like we already had a third conflict and we call it the cold war. in my opinion the fourth world war is already in frog rests but it isn't fought with the aid of weapons it is a mistake to fight using weapons if you always loose all the participants loose. yeah especially now we have such powerful weapons that could be dragged into a foolish war with hundreds of thousands of casualties this is the main risk we are
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playing we are assuming enormous risks and we aren't even aware of it is a big challenge because if you go. bad. that is you clear weapons have surely marked a strong revolution in both military and security affairs. he said before their creation there had always been a shortage of firepower in relation to the wishes of strategists while the nuclear weapons provided fire par greater than any political purpose rationally prosecutable. therefore nuclear weapons specially during the cold war would be known war weapons. but what is happening now adays is the normality there is no order a great change with a continuous redefinition of the international order it can lead to unexpected results yet a redefinition of new roles and
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a change where we ignore what is useful what is useless and what is harmful to new subjects are emerging almost every day and it is unknown if these subjects will be good or evil. because of life you just have to think about the international finance and so yesterday we thought that that would have been the universal solution to all the problems we are your as now it has become one of the enemies to fight against. thank you. thank. what has changed in the war concept is not just its definition or its idea the war changed in the way it is fought and in its motivations. more than anything else what has changed is the
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impulses for the war. since the peace of westphalia the war had finally become an affair between sovereign states now a days it is not a war or a confrontation between sovereign states anymore going to visit confrontation between wills between different interests. not just between organizations but also between organization. look at. what has modified the concept of war from the old one to the current one is the fall of the agreements established during the westphalia treaty. the treaty implied the wars are an affair between states when a country was defeated on the battlefield except in the political defeat and turned into an ally of the winner. nowadays the war is not an affair between states anymore because it became more expensive and the prophets have reduced the.
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present it depends on the relative productiveness of the different economies in other terms on the competitiveness of the different countries taken a system. in an era where the states lose power we see on the other hand the growth of the corporations it is easy to think about the american corporations because they are the most powerful ones but we could also talk about the swiss ones that are under the spotlight as much as the americans. but they still exist they are strong and can determine the future of the whole world and why because they have more parle full means than the state's. corporations are economic. aren't subject to
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a government anymore back in the day some governments had their own corporations today it's not like that anymore today the corporations own the states they have states but pay their commands. there are no rules of connection between the economic and the political power or the economic power or at least the people that lead it. to the states as an institution. nowadays the state is a mere agents that provide services who is intended to be the user of the services . a part of them are for the citizens most of them are intended for the people that assume economic power which nowadays in this particular historical context economic power is the only real power taking. the dimension of the war is symbolic. as we said that it's
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a clash between different wills in order to pursue interests. who manages the interests manages the war. the subject that manages the interests is not the state any more. that hugo chavez in venezuela believes that a statesman is the one that manages the state. and if that is true he is the last one left. in the rest of the world we see that strong economic interests develop connections with the state organization we aren't talking about the whole concept of multinational companies. care of a multinational company with a corporation made of people from different states here we are talking about corporation of influence several states that have states at their disposal.
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to go out every saturday since and we have to think that in italy we just experienced a case that can be key to understanding what a corporation is and what a state is if it is true but the head of the italian military secret service is the phones under the control of the taliban corp and while i'm not going to mention the name of this corporation but it is easy to figure out how i spend this is symbolic of the loss of the importance of the state. status of the state has changed since it lost almost all its profit of soldiers hit the void is always filled by something that is why the corporations are progressively taking the place of the state. in american comic books and movies the theme of a world led by the corporations is nothing new it would if that was because the state is going to withdraw even in that which concerns military and intelligence affairs the corporations will be progressively more capable of producing events
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which events that can result in a war after all and the last wars fought in the middle east the importance of troops that back in the day would have been called mercenaries and a presenter called contractors is evident sort of the day before your job where nowadays the war really has an asymmetrical dimension but what i mean is that war is not a clash between two different armies. it is more a clash between two different will it's not fair to a certain idea or to deny something from the whole an assertion and deny. are nowadays the inputs for the war. perhaps they may experience some interruptions where we add to a large extent they carry on being the same wars. we have for free so nowadays there are three different approaches to war three different types of war
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which firstly there is the classic war with an open frontal clash between two armies and so on. secondly there is the stabilisation in destabilization war between countries with one of the a cold attempting to stabilize a country or an area and the other one to doing the opposite of destabilizing. the third is the concept of war against terrorism a concept introduced in the last few years by the us government and then brought a classic war scenario such as the iraq invasion which is the proof of the intimate connections between these three different types of war. in the fight against terrorism the relation between the attacker and the defender is neither equal nor cimatron. it is unclear who is attacking and who is defending all the boundaries ethical spatial temporal and technological have vanished. nowadays
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an opponent using archaic tools like the taliban in afghanistan can seriously harm super advanced forces and this is really happening now to us british and even italian troops in that scenario. as well. our weakness in the fight against terrorism consists of the fact that the terrorists specially the suicide bombers are ready to die while we aren't great to change due to this fact we already started in a losing position. the second half will never so. let's take a person that is not afraid of dying on another one that maybe is part of a voluntary military service because he needs a better wage the person that they went back home surrounded by comforts and
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another one that isn't scared of dying because he doesn't have anything to lose again a person with a strong ideology and another one considering the battle as an ordinary joe if you eat out well in the physical clash begins one of them will surely experience more troubles he will need to let people. know. not only different motivations different technologies different tools but also a different idea of what the war is to make this phenomenon of the war phenomena to be highly on balanced and balanced not in favor of the stronger side but in favor of who has less to loops me. please let me keep.
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does not need to exist as we are using these terms in a negative way reinforcing the al qaeda ideology. it gives us this products of death called under the al qaeda brand because it works exactly like a supermarket and. agency or any other economic entity that wants to be recognized under that particular brand. that you know what causes the real damage is not the terrorism itself the real damage comes from us from our fear of terrorism. if you look into the terrorist attacks that we experienced this may sound incredible but the number of casualties that appeared so great to us is still well below the casualties caused by car accidents during a normal weekend for example but nevertheless the real strong impact comes from
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people's reactions to terrorism the economic damage the obstacles to our a possibility of freely traveling and so on. everything that affects our daily life is damage that we create ourselves and it doesn't come from terrorism. we've got that we are more afraid of the things we are told rather than of the real happenings weaver aggressively find out that the most important war is the one made for the media. and they say this here now a days it's not information warfare are limited exclusively to some professionals movie about how this information warfare is fought by everyone.

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