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to put millions of americans back to work and he dared the republicans to oppose. every proposal i've laid out tonight is the current that's been supported by democrats and republicans in the face every proposal i've laid out tonight will be paid for and every proposal is designed to meet the urgent needs of our people and our computers the president's speech couldn't come any sooner because a year of spending cuts brought to us by the republican party in many cases through hostage taking scenarios are killing our economy and now is the time to ditch austerity and go after actual job creation and to fight for it president obama gets it and so does the united nations this week the u.n. issued a new report pleading with europe japan of the united states to ditch the austerity agendas warning that continuing down the road of spending cuts will push the global economy to the brink of disaster instead of doing that the united nations urged
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governments to adopt policies that increase workers' wages as in put your money in the pockets of people who will spend it and get the economy working again as the report read given the lack of growth in employment and wages in europe japan and the united states their policies should aim at continued stimulation of their economies instead of trying to regain the confidence of the financial markets by prematurely cutting government spending. translate that into normal english stop trying to please the banks ters start trying to help the workers but the un saw is what's going on in europe near the end of last year the united kingdom passed an austerity plan complete with massive spending cuts and government worker layoffs what happened when he got sucked out of working people's pockets their economy hit the wall during a mere two tenths of a percent two tenths of a percent over the last three quarters of a year practically no growth whatsoever not to mention the social unrest and
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rioting it came with the government layoffs and the cuts to social programs it's been a blaze for a week was greece also passed muster any plan with deep spending cuts and public worker layoffs and they're no closer to being out of the woods yet now not only are they still on the verge of defaulting on their debts they also have a shrinking economy to deal with their g.d.p. contracted by a whopping seven point three percent was. never in the history of the world has a nation cut its way to prosperity especially during a recession and the lessons aren't just overseas they're right here in the united states too but the center for american progress has pointed out individual states have reacted differently to the recession with twenty four states choosing to cut spending and twenty five states choosing to increase spending and guess what happened pretty straightforward it's actually quite amazing as the states that cut
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spending saw their economies shrink on average by nearly three percent they also saw on average a one percent point increase in the unemployment rate so in twenty four mostly republican states spending cuts lead to higher unemployment and lower economic upward. on the other hand states that increased spending grew their economies and lowered unemployment an average states that increased spending so i half point increase in economic growth and it's intense of a percent drop in their unemployment rate as in more jobs are created in the mostly democratic states and their economies perform better but none of this mattered to republicans in congress who demanded deep spending cuts and even held our economy hostage until they get right with a watered in the debt limit deal us more a devil of a deal is chock full of the very same austerity measures that the u.n. today warned us about and what happened after congress passed the debt limit deal
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the market went into a tailspin the credit got downgraded and our economic outlook turned sour which is exactly what the republicans wanted speaker of the house john boehner bragged that he got ninety eight percent of what he wanted in the deal thanks a lot right it's simple austerity measures are poison pills for an economy that's in a crisis and massive massive tax cuts for rich people so-called job creators they don't help you it's photo economics republicans are pushing it not only help the big corporate donors get more and more money but also to put the economy in the tank so the president obama looks bad just in time for the two thousand and twelve elections and the american people aren't buying it anymore take a look at what this constituent paul ryans had to say at a town hall event earlier this week. chris paul ryan doesn't represent the success of the first district he represents hedge fund managers and lobbyists it's right here the people because it's. is the only thing that creates jobs not rich people
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not cuts but yet you people killed the money in your pocket screeching right no and that's probably what destroyed st paul writes why did. i think president obama listen to that guy tonight speech was the first step toward rebuilding his presidency and rebuilding this economy but he has to keep up the fight and he has to keep hitting republicans like eric cantor over the head again and again and again going to forget of course until they did their agenda to crash the economy and they have no choice but to jump on board and help fix the economy to hell with the republican billionaire corporate donors it's time to give this economy back to working people and for the first time in a while i'm confident president obama knows what's at stake and i think he's finally ready to be a transformative president franklin roosevelt and not a one term president like jimmy carter. as the big picture for tonight for more information the study stories we covered is that our web sites are tom hartman dot com free speech dot org and archie dot com also check out our two you two channels
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welcome to be a loner so we'll get the real had lines with none of the mersey we're coming live out of washington d.c. i'm lauren lyster in for alona today we are coming up on ten years since the attacks of nine eleven as a nation still spending billions of dollars and lives on a war on terror started in response to those attacks and with government still spying on citizens through provisions of the patriot act and with many questions about the attack still unresolved how far has the u.s. come one decade later we'll try to get some answers then we'll talk about the
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economy as we get ready to hear a speech from president obama tonight on his jobs plan but first what is the mainstream media miss. right last night media caught it there is the g.o.p. debate of possible g.o.p. presidential contenders if you did not there has been plenty of recapping today but what we want you to pay attention to is this very jarring moment take a look. your state has executed two hundred thirty four just row inmates more than any other governor in modern times have you. ok did you catch that that was applause rick perry texas governor getting a loud applause from the crowd for executing more people on death row than any other governor in modern time ok that aside let's hear what rick perry
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had to say for himself. with the idea that any one of those might have innocent. never struggled with that old the state of texas has a. very sought for a very clear. process in place you will face the old to move justice in the state of texas and that is you will be executed what do you make you. can miss that more applause but back to rick perry no he loses no sleep over possibly killing innocent death row inmates now in response to all of this but mainstream media did take some time out to talk about this moment and talk about perry's record on the death penalty even raising some concerns about it. rick perry gets a big applause last night at the republican debate refusing to apologize for his stance on the death penalty cameron todd willingham execution still haunts rick
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perry rick perry was asked of doubt if he'd ever lost sleep that night for any of the executions that he ordered to go. here's our question though why does it take a big moment a national t.v. with a possible presidential candidate to gring attention to rick perry's record on the death penalty or the issue of wrongful convictions and capital punishment at all we've brought up troy davis for example here on this show just yesterday where has the mainstream media been for him yesterday a date was set for his execution going to be later this month that's after a u.s. supreme court decision cleared the way if you don't know who's davis well he's a high profile death row inmate who claims he's innocent of killing a savannah police officer now there is no physical evidence linking davis to the crime and seven out of the ten witnesses in his trial later recanted or changed
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their testimonies and those are just a few reasons he's become a focal point for anti death penalty activists as well as critics of the u.s. criminal justice system around the world and in fact it's not just davis who is an issue here when it comes to wrongful convictions since one thousand nine hundred eighty nine there have been two hundred seventy three exonerations of wrongfully convicted prisoners through d.n.a. evidence seven eighteen of them did time on death row seventeen were going to be killed by the state that's according to the innocence project and that makes a clear case for caring about this issue that extends far beyond rick perry's governorship and far beyond the borders of texas now for perry's part the two thousand. for execution of cameron todd willingham who you see right there has raised questions about whether perry did in fact allow an innocent man to be executed willingham was
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executed for an arson that many fire experts believe he did not commit perry denied a stay of execution for this man they start new scientific analysis that there was no evidence of arson at his house so there is a clear case for that that's fairy for the mainstream media's part we applaud them a little no pun intended for finally devoting some headlines to perry's death row record after the spectacle of the g.o.p. debate last night but that it took a sensational moment for them to devote any attention to an issue they have been missing while other innocent lives are possibly being lost that is what the mainstream media missed. all right we're coming up here on the ten year anniversary of nine eleven and
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though we know about osama bin laden's death and wars that have cost the country one point two trillion dollars at least that's according to the national priorities project there is still a lot we don't know questions remain about just what u.s. intelligence agencies knew before the attacks how the attacks could have been prevented and whether the al qaeda militants who flew planes into the world trade center had the support of states believed to be u.s. allies saudi arabia remains a big question mark now some possible reasons for these unanswered questions well for one reports the majority of the nine eleven commission's investigative records remain sealed in the national archives this is even though the commission had told the archives to make most of this material public back in two thousand and nine and just to remind you the nine eleven commission issued their. report back in two thousand and four so what are some of those records that the public still has not allowed to see the reportedly a thirty page summary of
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a two thousand and four interview with president bush and vice president dick cheney the only time the two were formally question about the events surrounding the nine eleven attacks also a vast amount of information on al qaeda and u.s. intelligence efforts though for the attacks and those years before now this the nine eleven commission report records that we have been seeing in addition to it there are twenty eight pages which were redacted from the congressional joint inquiry into nine eleven that was finished back in two thousand and two now those pages have never been declassified here to talk about why all of this is and maybe to help us figure some of nine eleven as mysteries of our next guests they've combed through the thousands of official documents that have recently been made available not to mention done countless interviews in the years since nine eleven trite this book joining me from our new york studio is anthony summers and robin swan they wrote this book you see here the eleventh day the full story of nine
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eleven and osama bin laden i want to thank you guys both so much for being with me now one of the big takeaways from the adaptation of your book that i read was your evidence of saudi arabia's possible connection to nine eleven and the hijackers of course to remind people fifteen of the hijackers were from saudi arabia and of course saudi arabia being an ally of the united states so what do you see as saudi arabia's connection to nine eleven. i think it's complicated could your conclusion. is true fold in the use leading up to the. saudi arabia and that means really the royal family the government of saudi arabia which are the same thing we're concerned that some of the. would turn his guns effectively on the regime would work towards an overthrow of the rogue regime in saudi arabia and to that end what we would call if we were studying not so
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sardines but say organized crime than last year they paid protection money millions of dollars in money that came direct from the saudi official purpose were paid by princes whom we've named in the book to understand that bin laden to make sure that they weren't attacked in saudi arabia the second interesting level is the level of which there's evidence and we've just developed more of this but the two official investigations found the vestiges of hard evidence that the saudis in california. produced a sort of support network for the first future nine eleven hijackers the first of the terrorists to land in the united states twenty months before the operation was carried up just in the last few days i've been able to to develop information that
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there was a similar support network in west florida so are you saying essentially that according to all of the sources in documents that you called this saudi arabia was a state sponsor of the nine eleven hijackers. and i'm not saying exactly that not to say that the entire regime was behind. nine eleven i'm saying that elements of the saudi regime were probably behind and. now i notice one thing any kind of you just touched upon it it's not exactly clear what the role was. but there are a number of conflicting reports among the sources that you interviewed so do you feel you have decisive evidence that saudi arabia some elements played a role or do you feel like there is still a gray area. we think there is a bit of a gray area because there are sort of two different things that could have happened
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something of the evidence suggest a support network for the terrorists and a very negative way saudi officials themselves came out after nine eleven and talked about the fact that american intelligence was at fault for not listening to their saudi counterparts who they claimed had very good ties into al qaida and were in fact surveilling some of the terrorists and had warned the u.s. government oh is that the sum of their presence now which way does this cut. the saudis surveilling the nine eleven hijackers was an intelligence operation gone wrong or as the more negative information portrays it was there this element of support and money being funneled to the hijackers it is still a gray area what we need is to see those twenty eight pages you talked about of the joint inquiries report released. they were not released under president bush
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president obama has told members of the nine eleven commission nine eleven families that they would release the pages that still has not happened it's time to put that to the document be released in full there is there's nothing there's nothing to hide there's no reason not to release it the saudi government itself claims that they're happy for it to be released so then why do you think it hasn't because in your excerpt i read you have evidence from sources saying that george bush really said because it would affect the u.s. as a relationship with saudi arabia because it would also protect possibly u.s. agencies that might look bad but under obama who you mentioned has said in the past that he will make this information public why do you think it hasn't been. and we didn't say it officially he said it true the widow of when the grief some of those nights i'm sure to the inauguration and i believe. one of the most and said look there's the twenty eight pages of this report senator graham former senator graham
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co-chair of the committee wants them released couldn't you show your way to getting them released and he said world yes i think i would but i think that was possibly. a chance remark that he he wished he hadn't made that he wished it back but bottom line is oil oh it was the bottom line under president bush and it's the bottom line now under the present administration i have to say that but we can only speculate because there's so much secrecy surrounding this whole got it that the american administrations have appeared to put the importance of the oil relationship with saudi arabia above the interests of the truth of the american public knowing the truth so do you believe that you have added and that if this report was released it would change the relationship between the u.s.
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and saudi arabia and does exactly you're talking about access to oil. oh no we haven't seen what's in those pages so we can't answer that question ok what about as far as what else came out of your reporting that is either gray in the nine eleven commission's reports or believed to be in those redacted pages of the congressional inquiry aside from state sponsors of terror what else really stuck out to you. well there's one intriguing story that you may have seen referenced in today's new york times which is the story of the u.s. defense of its own air space on the morning of nine eleven which is told very vividly in the audiotapes from the n.s.a. and from the nor our and in the transcripts of those in the in the files of the nine eleven commission what we've been able to do which no one else has been able to do is piece together the story of this shoot down authorization. that on that
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morning at one point when many planes were appeared to be and perhaps hijacked. it became necessary for a decision to be made as to whether or not there would be authorization given to shoot down a civilian airliner now this is and susan that should only be made by the president or by the secretary of defense or by the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff on the morning of nine eleven the very best evidence now shows and we've documented very carefully in our book that that decision was in fact made by the vice president who was not in that chain of command and passed along and cost on to people under beneath him outside the ordinary military chain of command very interesting information coming out that you're piecing together ten years later stands for much of the public we have been able to with with the document that haven't been released we certainly appreciate you coming on the show thanks so much everyone should read the book. thank you thank you. as the campsites
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ten years after the september eleventh attacks a look at how the u.s. reacted with anything changes to national security the editor in chief of reason t.v. and reason dot com will be here in just a moment. including. the difficult work to bring justice or. i have a right to know what my government. would you want to know why i pay taxes. i would characterize obama as a charismatic version of american exceptionalism. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so for lack of sleep you think you understand it and then you've lived something else you hear or see some other part of it and realize that everything is ok if you don't i'm sorry welcome to the big picture
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says. let's not forget that we had an apartheid regime right here. i think iraq is eatable and funny well. whenever the government says there are people safe get ready because you give them their freedom. for food for
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five. welcome back well if you've been to minnesota maybe you know that it's home to one of the largest malls in the u.s. the mall of america and with a mall that spans two miles filled with stores you can imagine that there malls that carry how to be able to handle and protect a large number of people thanks to t.l.c. we got a chance to see just how this group operates in their reality series all cops in all of america to the average shopper move america's two minds read to the.
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secret training facility in home to its elite security force. to this root structure protecting the largest mall in the near impossible to reject or anyone here we're told. as you can see there's a group of mall cop there known as ram is a node joke they train as if they're part of a small army and that is thanks in large part to the head of mall security who is incidentally a former israeli defense forces sergeant now throughout the series you can see how this group of law enforcement takes a very serious approach to counterterrorism. cultures their behavior and there was just to skew hundreds of troops it's interesting looking for any would maybe heart suit here soon. this group's i.d.f. style training may show but doesn't go too far in their counterterrorism efforts the center for investigative reporting at n.p.r.
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released a new report on wednesday showing how rahm security practices do in fact violate civil rights the report shows how mall of america's security team goes after individuals who are taking pictures or even just appear nervous when being approached by cox in the c.i.r. n.p.r. report one hundred twenty five incidents were recorded and when you look at the statistics only thirty four percent of the individuals questioned were white sixty five percent shows ran interrogated blacks or individuals of middle eastern descent what's even more surprising is that almost half just forty nine percent of those who were interrogated had their information forwarded to other law enforcement agencies now some of those other agencies include the minnesota police but some of these individuals had their profiles sent to customs enforcement the joint terrorism task force and the f b i and we should know that in a majority of those interrogations between ram and
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a questionable individual any photos that the individual had taken were confiscated and in some cases people were subjected to put a deportation hearings based on their interaction at the mall of america so let's connect the dots here almost two thirds of those people who were deemed suspicious were not white and approximately half of those were subsequently reported to major intelligence groups like isis or terrorism task forces or the f.b.i. . does this sound like a case of profiling to anyone should people really have to worry about going to a local mall placed on some sort of suspicious persons list with the f.b.i. when they leave or face possible deportation and for what taking photos of them all of america especially when the u.s. is in a recession whether you think it's extreme or not it may go to show that in our post nine eleven society when it comes to surveillance and security these days maybe anything goes. and.

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