because you don't want to make decisions that are new to this because they have a towel down that makes them seem a little bit more you know. yeah arrestable but i do think that one of the funnier to read because it is to tell you. i think one of the funniest reactions was from the actual nudists who said that they were so insulted by wieners law because this is already new this code like how dare he and you know it that we don't already do this well i don't know i barely was also promised i'm going to restaurants like i'm just sitting there naked in order i'm sorry that's too much that's just too much now it's a whole other issue for another day because we've got to move on because we all know that one of us i think about dating someone is making those nervous phone calls which this i haven't heard from you and i mean how stupid is it that counts not tweet for gas company right. rolly right where women are accepted into law school now the men. all right so with how

much labor it takes to figure out the right thing to say one dutch woman didn't have any trouble she's a forty two year old and she called her ex sixty five thousand times a year which if you want to know the math we did it for you that's one hundred seventy eight times a day one call every eight minutes. is that a little extravagant. actually you know she claims that they were in actuality dating that he was not her x. but i would like to point out that even if you are dating calling your significant other every eight minutes is not in any way shape or form except. that you can be dating for too long if you're calling your significant other every eight minutes i mean this is a serious commitment to stalking if there's like an olympics for stalking i think this woman is a front runner oh my god she got you programmed world record. setting knows we should let her know she didn't actually her and she's probably going to need the money because i was thinking about the phone bill must be astronomical finally

locking up and it's these days i don't know how the soccer print thing if he was compulsively texting it might have been a little bit pricier yeah i don't know i mean i've known people who have excessively called and texted axes and i was embarrassed for them and it was nothing at this level this should make every crazy girl feel much better. but everyone i've ever been mad at your neighbor you're going to love our next story because one connecticut man took out his anger and a very creative and bench man. the connecticut managed church with post you know feet craigslist ad inviting strangers to participate in an orgy of bored soccer mom he had showed a crop photo of a topless woman and gave an address saying i'm looking for group sex and i want to please as many as i can before i go to work. ok the problem is that people actually showed up and the guy that ran this ad got probation and two hundred hours of

community service as a punishment for his offense of playing a prank on his neighbor what do you guys think about punishment i think this is something that's like seems kind of clever and funny at first and so you like think it all the way through and like oh my god creepy guys are going to start showing up at this woman house and some guy actually the wrong house and molested a teenage girl so i think he deserves to be you know given a little bit of caution here that's not a little punishment so probation this is his record two hundred hours and got to pay for the security system for this neighbor's house i think the security system is a little ridiculous but at the same time you can't say that you know he can't be held accountable because he didn't force these people to do what they were doing which i know has been said that you know it's not fair if you're going to go and do something that then leads to other things happening because you were reckless then you need to be held accountable for your recklessness you know actions have consequences but the consequence of his action was not having that neighbor need to have a security system to keep people from writing is why would you be on

a life that i know that you said that you support me and i just have to make my point there i mean i agree but you know earlier there were discussions that he shouldn't be responsible at all because he's not accountable for what other people do and i don't think that's fair because if you go and leave someone in the woods as a prank and i ha ha find your way home and they get mugged by a bear you would definitely be charged with some type of negligence what do you think you know i am going to quiet over there have you have you done before i you know i kind of wish i had come up with the idea of it but never actually gone through that i have to say it's a little bit and i'm curious what you think cause and effect like what was the consequence that led him to do this is this portion in some way was this relevant to whatever they apparently are having some kind of feud but we don't know what they were we don't know what they're thinking about but why did he go oh i know the way to get back at her is to make it seem like she wants have an orgy on craigslist seems like there's a deeper backs. here that we don't know but you know i don't really care about the backstory but i just think that this is such an extravagant punishment for what this person actually did i mean he wasn't the person showing up for the group sex

or groping the teenage girl and asking anybody you know i didn't write that when you get one you have to admit that he had every intention of weirdos you don't post something on craigslist saying you want to have an orgy without the intention of odd strange people showing up at that house it was that person's responsibility then to answer the door or not answer the door or deal with whoever was on their doorstep i mean he was not sure he was your actual motion for getting somebody else in his house but he wasn't charged with a full like you know facilitation of molestation he was not charged that he was charged with you know posting something and i do think of you he pled to something greater than what his actual crime was but i don't think he should go if scot free all right well the moral the story be careful what you post in craigslist or else you're going to be out cleaning up trash for community service and with that that's it for tonight show thanks for tuning in make sure to come back tomorrow as well kristin will be on the show to discuss the nine eleven ten years out from a military standpoint and in the meantime don't forget to become a fan of the alona show on facebook to follow us on twitter if you missed any of

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job market in washington d.c. and here's what's coming up tonight on the big picture about an hour ago president obama wrapped up his jobs speech detailed plan of his american jobs act he claims to give millions of americans back to work so will it work and what can we learn from the noise coming out of the republican debate less and ten years after nine eleven has emerged which. took a look at whether or not all a nation made the right choices in the decade after the attacks.

you need to know this republicans had their chance last night and president obama had his chance tonight unfortunately republicans squandered their chance to do our jobs during the debate instead focused on more massive tax breaks for billionaires on social security a ponzi scheme lasting mitt romney successful health care program in massachusetts denying global warming and bragging about how many people rick perry had executed in texas so tonight it was up to the adult in the room president obama his jobs and jobs plan to congress and the americans job the american jobs act comes complete with tax cuts for employers who hire new workers raise the salaries of their current workers tax cuts for companies who hire military veterans tax cuts for companies who hire people who've been unemployed for more than six months it invests in repairing and modernizing over thirty five thousand schools that

rehabilitates communities hardest hit by foreclosure it just starts transportation infrastructure projects all around the nation it puts thousands of teachers back to work. and on an individual basis it extends the payroll tax cut plan also extends unemployment benefits for the year president claims the american jobs act will create jobs for construction workers teachers and give a long term unemployed a shot at collecting a paycheck to president promised this bill will be paid for completely by asking the super committee gang of twelve to find additional savings on top of the want to have trillion already. also pleasure to introduce his own deficit reduction plan in two weeks any thought republicans it's time to put politics aside these are all our policies that both parties have supported in the past at this bill must be passed now so will they pass it will work joining me now for a wrap up of president obama's jobs speech as well as all the shenanigans in last

night's republican debate is eric burns former president media matters for america co-founder of bullfight strategies to back thank you to our good having thank you for joining us and it's great to have you with us first of all i'm i'm curious your take on last night's debate as it were accident as if you're saying as a texan i was horrified when they cracked you know for all the executions in texas you know that we have more executions in the state of texas i think than any other state in the country or all the other states the country combined we're going to learn more in the last yeah i mean it's just that was a little disturbing you know as far as kind of the whole story so i felt like romney really had gotten the story that he was the only guy in the room that actually had a chance of really taking on obama seriously which actually surprised me rick perry did his thing which was a lot of swagger kind of his yosemite sam actors are right to call it he was strong in the first half the bait but really started to lose steam because there's really

lack of substance there and he's going to i think we saw that with george w. bush you know michele bachmann i thought really faded into the background last night i think we're going to see her campaign begin to fade. one surprise was jon huntsman really simple actually really seemed like the smartest guy in the room the question is can he do anything without the problem i thought it was that jon huntsman was playing nice and yes and there was a time who would be a democrat know it well not only that you know eisenhower came along after world war two and and the korean war was running in fifty two and he ran his campaign slogan was vote for eisenhower vote for peace and he was the peace candidate and what americans wanted i mean they were war weary they were depression weary they were what they wanted was quiet they wanted nice calm quiet and so he was the perfect guy for the time where there's been a republican or democrat here that's not americans not right no it's not and so if huntsman tries to play as an hour which he's trying to do it sure well and i so you know he's so deep down in the polls i don't know that there's enough oxygen for him

to even make a play it's a really come back of what i think is instructive which is really to your point is that here we have a very different republican party now the swagger of rick perry just kind of the cocky texas americans that we saw from him which i'm very used to seeing in texas politics this is the new republican party unapologetically get up and call social security a ponzi scheme and it's about it's a real force for leadership whether it's right or wrong are driving the america off a cliff that's what in this kind of a.d.d. media environment unfortunately folks care to respond to and clearly the republican base response to but it just shows you how far to the right the republicans have really gone let's talk about the president's speech that there were there were there was one particular moment in the speech that i thought. actually two that i thought really captured the whole thing the first was in the very beginning when he talked about how there are all these americans who are concerned that they they can't put their kids through college or through school that they may be on the edge

of losing their jobs and he talked he actually used the word contact which interestingly i've used a couple of times recently in my daily take up to using the law on the air i haven't heard anybody else. is it that in the forty's fifty's sixty's seventy's and early eighty's the compact between government and the people was the government would define the rules of business in such a way that if you had a even a high school diploma you could raise a family and there was there could be a middle class and that compact has been changed you know the square deal has become the raw deal again with reaganomics and he just caught that out he basically said you know we need to go back to that he did and i thought it was one of the best parts of the speech as well in another part of the speech you know he really talks about the american people are really going to small businesses are going to drive this recovery but we need to do our part in washington i think what we're saying i hope is the beginning of an articulation of a campaign to explain to the american people why we actually need

a government of the people by the people of this government is a reflection of who we are if the democrats hit make their argument about why government is relevant especially in the era of the great recession which was a horse a result of a lack of government involvement in the markets that i think we're in trouble and so i was really really pleased to see the president do that and i think he really put the republicans in a difficult spot because he gave them a lot of what they wanted which of course a lot of democrats are going very upset about for a long time but he spoke to the american people and he really is giving this congress no excuse not to pass this bill there's targeted infrastructure spending which of course we know was the absolute best way to promote economic growth is you noted putting teachers back in the schools and there's some great wall in term and short term things are good it seems like one side or the other one of the one of the other is going to happen one saw either the president or the republicans are going to play a game of heads i win tails you lose and the way it plays for the president is he gets this thing passed and the economy picks up somewhat it looks like he's doing

things and it helps him politically massively on the other hand. if the report and on the other hand if the public. and say no he can he can he can play harry truman and run against the republicans but he's going to do that right yeah and that's a question of whether he's going to do that i guess on the third hand the third third option is he gets this pastor republican say ok fine go along with this we'll give you everything you want and it doesn't pick up the economy as much as it could or should things take time to do and then they he can't run against congress anymore he can't play harry truman he got what he wanted unemployment still you know seven a half percent whatever it is you know and and and they say you know we tried which way do you how do you think it's going to play how do you think the republicans are going to play well you know i hope for the good of the country and that they're going to play they recognize that in some point the american people really just

want to see things happen in washington that are going to benefit the working families at home and really really get this economy going we don't have a war the opposition and the republicans in front of us we have a very disciplined opposition and they are heavily invested politically as i've as we've talked about before and seeing this economy crash on the rocks and saying this president crashed on the rocks and so you know the real question is can eric cantor mitch mcconnell and these characters that we have that are really throwing every wrench in the works that they possibly can overcome their partisan desire to control the white house to actually do something to help save this economy well and get it better and i think apropos of that the question is. let's just play this clip from the speeches from very very short. passes jobs bill and we can put people to work rebuilding america everyone here knows we have badly decaying roads and bridges all over the country the highways are clogged with traffic our skies are the most congested in the world it's an outrage. building

a world class transportation system is part of what made us a economic superpower and now we're going to sit back and watch china build newer airports and faster around roads at a time when millions of unemployed construction workers could build them right here in america. here's what i think the question is will enough american people say yeah that's my speech that's my guy that's my or that's my policy that the republicans take it seriously or for that matter the democrats which are clearly the kind of flaky democrats in the senate take it seriously but i think we one of the answer tonight essentially if this speech ends tonight this message and tonight then that's you know it's not going to be successful if this is something the president continues to beat on and we heard drumbeat from the white house we stop the circular firing squad among progressives and liberals which is just not helpful that i think we've got a shot and you know it's interesting interesting point last night in the republican

debate which i think speaks to this directly you know we had a whole bunch of republicans namely rick perry out there saying hey government start a solution government can't do anything government can't create jobs get every one of those governors up there was bragging about the jobs they created while they were others in their state i know this is a cognitive dissonance and so i think that i think that they can be a force to the table but it's going to take a unified full frontal assault he has it's all part part of his speech was he said i'm going to go across the country with this mess and i hope he doesn't are going to have your answer and he's got to be tough absolutely thank you thanks a lot rob right there it was a lot more of the president's job speech and it's really take. coming up it's been almost a decade since the tragic terror attacks on new york's twin towers the pentagon here in d.c. so what's changed since then and she would be happy with this new post nine eleven era.

this week it will be a time for reflection for the united states over the ten year anniversary of nine eleven and chance for all of us to look back at the last decade and ask the question we handled things the right way there's no question this nation is fundamentally different today than it was ten years ago is now unprecedented fear and mistrust of muslims for example gripping the nation causing many of us to forget exactly what religious freedom in america means there are two costly wars still raging the middle east is asterisk offshoots of our military response to what nineteen terrorist hijackers did on the supreme. and there's the new security state apparatus an unbelievably costly and intrusive machine complete with michael chertoff ex report on scanners in airports what was wiretaps of e-mail snoopers in our homes and a covert military wing of secret prisons and drone strikes all around the world all of which illustrates just how much our nation's definition of privacy and in

particular warfare has drastically changed since nine eleven and it's on this topic in particular i'd like to hear my next guests to take down a priest as a journalist impartial security reporter of the washington post he's also the co-author of the new book top secret america the rise of the new american security state joins me now to welcome thank you you have the book ideas and it's beautiful it's brilliant what is what is jay suck let's just get right to this just a sock is the joint special operations command it's a group of highly effective but very secretive special operations troops from all the military services their main mission after nine eleven has been manhunt theme has been to capture or more recently to mostly kill the suspected terrorists that are on their hit list and their supporters around the world not only in places like afghanistan and iraq where we have declared wars but in places like yemen and

pakistan to some degree where we have where we don't have declared war as you wrote about essentially began with jimmy carter in the arena hostage crisis it began with an effort to rescue the hostages from the reigning students who held them in the u.s. embassy in one thousand nine hundred in one thousand nine hundred eighty nine and that and fortunately ended in disaster not only were they not rescued but the eight members of that team were killed and they decided at that time that they needed a better system to organize this a joint group it would be partly maybe partly. army partly air force and they set up a. j. socks shortly after that but it really wasn't used much it wasn't used much in till after nine eleven before that some hosty rescues but not not anything like what happened beginning after nine eleven when and when we when the united states the

president particularly wanted to fight a secret war around the world that we would know much about so putting this thing together didn't require any special authorization it was just a reorganization within the military that's right it would put but khalid is the president of the united states. at any point in time that you know now president bush. how does he order the murder of another person including u.s. citizens who have been the targets of juries how does the president order order the murder of another person without a judicial process. well because you're going to us first of all the been lawyers have debated this inside the white house and continue to debate it outside the white house but the legal view from inside is that it's not murder it's self defense we were attacked on nine eleven and we have every right straight back at those you know it is supposed to be at terrorists that people will stop murder it's war right but it but it is you know it is they call it targeted killings there are

people who call it assassination because you were targeting individuals in the the the literal notion of assassination is usually someone with a political leaders is ok to political organization you know up does this amount to assassination that's up for debate it does it's not a rogue operation no by these troops they get their direction from the president president bush gave it to them and president obama has used them even more than president bush with these was was the authorization because i mean you know when jimmy carter first did this it wasn't go kill these people were rescued so when george bush started doing the go kill these people is that the jay bybee memo was. no trying to lay it on the cia the cia actually has a similar force they're called paramilitary force because they're not military people now the interesting thing is that cia because of its past abuses congress

has said if you're going to use the cia to do covert things you have to tell us and the president has to sign something special well because these are military troops even though they're doing things very similar they don't have to tell congress and president bush didn't inform congress what they were doing president obama said even though i don't have to i'm going to now inform a select member select members of congress the defense committee the intelligence committee goes to the defense committee. and so be it so as to reassure as you have been. and there's a lot of concern about notification if we you know after the wedding party incident you wrote about the everybody heard about you know it was thinking of killing of us in any people by any civilians yes by one of these trees are groups. has jay sachs going to net positive or a net negative for america between the the the waterboarding party killings the you

know i would agree with torture or everything else and they've been all they were involved in abu ghraib or there were instances of abuse of prisoners and supposedly those people were picked prosecuted discipline you know it depends on your definition because they've been affected killing force that's what they do in the process they have killed civilians accidentally they would say but they will continue to do those because civilians are mixed in with people that are terrorists so what does that create in you know even the leader of j.c. general mcchrystal at one point he told me in an interview for the book that often their actions were counterproductive because if they killed innocent people if they bombed the wrong house and the the rate of success was only fifty percent because intelligence is so hard to be accurate with you would create hostilities on the

ground that the conventional army ill equipped to deal with that kind of blowback would have to handle and they weren't good at handling that we have just a minute left to see i was forbidden from domestic operations that's changed recently is we're going to see jay soccer operating in the united states you know water and no i don't think they will be operating in the united states what they are doing now through a new task force they have in washington d.c. is to help others the mystic civilian agencies target they're the the people. they're interested in arresting so for instance ice the immigration service they stock is using its targeting methodology in other words gathering information figuring out where this prisoner to be sharing technology and then helping them find the person they're looking for the last question just in of a few seconds to paraphrase jesus you know if you gain the world and lose your soul what was it worth it if we are successful militarily if we win the these battles by

killing these people were we have lost the war by eliminating so much i think that's always a balance that people are aware of and and when you choose the tool that you're going to use to fight a war it's not that it's not just that tool that matters it is what it is it's the ripple effect. thanks so much for dropping by your brilliant book big the ocean as i said this sunday's tenth anniversary of nine eleven will be a day of reflection and i fear that many of us will look back at that ross a decade of war fear and intrusion a lot of thoughtful infor introspection. hoping that there has been a rise in the american security state there been three outcomes of nine eleven but i just want to respond here a little bit the first is the rise of the american security state we've seen the national security letters for example the f.b.i. is so.