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state's to put on the kind of. actual shelter now for the second part of the iona shout stay with us for that. all right guys it's time for show and tell on tonight's program earlier this week alone to discuss the economic and political turmoil which is shaking up the european union but we wanted to know if you think the e.u. will be able to survive all this and stick around together for years to come let's go to producer patrice in a sense a to find out what you had to say. when it comes to the european union are going to make dependence and political independence have made for a tougher lation ship and a lot of people are wondering if we couldn't really go on with just the other day commission president joe say barroso said yes the e.u. will go on he guaranteed it but like any relationship words are cheap and usually comes down to money so while the european countries seem willing to rough it out
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and hold tight well they succeed or be forced to go their separate ways or will the relationship just have to morph into something different in order to survive well alexander said the best solution would be for the us like federalism but that would require referendums if it doesn't fly the e.u. will go back to its pretty euro for david writes from graver and living in the u.k. i really really really hope not chris said if we in the fall back into recession then the union would change drastically greasy said it would have to be kicked out i spin from sweden told us people dislike the they feel it is undemocratic and meddling in regional regulations all most of you who are sponsored were not big fans of the e.u. rather even went so far as to say it's the biggest gravy train in politics and the political system was essentially stealing from the people to fund these lavish lifestyles but when a relationship this complicated and messy hits the rocks no one can afford to live
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lavish lifestyles there's always someone who has the most to lose like germany and then there are those who take a lot like courtship. all ireland are greats but in the end it's probably better if everyone just gathers around the table and make some tough decisions that will keep everyone together. and as always thanks for your responses and here is our next question for you we just spoke with nicholas feel hurt em about the bipartisan support for the war on terror so we want to know what you think will we see an end to the war on terror in our lifetime or will we just see it's continual expansion you can respond to us on facebook or twitter and on you tube and who knows your response just might make it on the air. all right we shortly right you're about twenty five minutes of my calculation is correct we're going to see president obama give a speech to a joint session of congress to reportedly announce his jobs plan now this just just
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today we found out from the bureau of labor statistics more great news that last week oh yeah the jobless claims rose more than expected now so far the details of obama's plan to come out are they will call for three hundred to four hundred billion dollars of spending earth plan you could say this includes an extension of payroll tax cuts state and local aid and infrastructure program some other things too but those are examples also today in washington the joint special committee on deficit reduction held its first meeting to get to work on their job remember they came out of the debt ceiling deal they're supposed to cut one point five trillion dollars in government are supposed to find savings and government the budget now also today federal reserve chairman ben bernanke he gave a speech and the reaction on the financial blogosphere to paraphrase was no surprise is markets are still expecting more monetary easing so is any of this good news for the u.s. economy truly for the nine point one percent unemployment or the sluggish g.d.p. growth which is just one percent joining me as alex tab rock professor of economics
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at george mason university research director for the independent institute he also co-writes the blog marginal revolution and we're so grateful to have him here to answer these questions for us thanks for being here now i'm sure you've been reading what's been released about obama's expected jobs plan is there anything that makes you think that this will get that stubborn nine percent unemployment rate down. well i think the payroll tax cut is a good idea this is extending the cut and it looks like he's going to also increase it by allowing employers to get part of the cut and i think he's going to do it in a clever way he's going to say small businesses who hire they're going to get a payroll tax cut and he's got to do that because he's got to get republicans on board so of all the tax republicans have actually not wanted to cut the payroll tax but i think if he puts it on small businesses they're going to have to go along with that as well and that's a good idea my question though is with all of the gridlock we've seen in washington
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and again we hear bernanke you speak and urge fiscal policy makers to consider how fragile the economic recovery is when when they return to look at the government's finances and work on a sustainable trajectory. is this the right thing to do to have fiscal policy makers need to solve the economic problems when they've proven so far they really can't. well that's true and a lot of people have been saying the fed should do more. little but surprisingly last night in the debate most of the republicans said they wouldn't rehire of bernanke you that was the nicest thing they said about him they said they were in rehiring because he's done too much most economists think that he hasn't done enough and in fact he said today he's still got the notion and people have been saying well if you've got ammunition surely now's the time to fire. so then my question for you is that if the fed does more stimulus in september as the market
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seems to expect that it's going to do you think that would be a good or a bad thing. i think it would be a good thing you know people have worried about inflation but inflation is really low right now and we could actually use a little bit of inflation to kind of encourage people to spend a little bit more and to reduce their debt so i think the fed has got some room to maneuver and they ought to take that room so do you mean and quantitative easing is that what you're saying that's right yeah ok we three ok. but why what has q.e. two done because bernanke even says that small businesses can't get loans twenty six percent of people or so are still underwater on their mortgages. wall street's doing better but what is quantitative easing really done. well i think quantitative easing has made the situation a little bit better than it otherwise would have been. you know the real worry is if we start to have deflation if we have any deflation and people say oh prices are going to go down so i'm not going to spend today that would be an absolute disaster
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and we've hovered around that we're about two percent three percent inflation now and actually kicking inflation up a little bit wouldn't harm things and could help things as well what about the former st louis fed official who's saying that that we do risk an astonishing rise in inflation and you don't buy any sand. there's no evidence of that so far the bond market right now ten year bonds are running under two percent so there's absolutely no sign that people in the bond market are expecting a big increase in inflation you know when the government can borrow money at two percent for ten years that says that no one's expecting a lot of inflation but is the bond market right because some argue that it's a bubble and say that this is all been the reaction to all of the global turmoil that we're seeing with europe and the u.s. and the treasury is a flight to safety. especially poor. it definitely part of a part of it that is a flight to safety. is the bond market right well who knows they could be wrong but
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in the bond market people are putting their money where their mouth is they have billions of dollars at stake so i'll take the bond market over any pundits forecast any day all right even mine all right well you tell the markets they've been crazy lately though then do you trust them on gold some people say that that means the economy is sick that high number for gold is what that's telling people. well you know traditionally when times are tough people jump into the gold market. i think people of god potentially a lot of money to lose there it's been going up and up and up and so i myself i'm not in gold but i understand why people in times of trouble rely on it but i wouldn't put my money there speaking in times of trouble though i watch an area with you from back in december of two thousand and ten when you were optimistic about the world economy and i'm really curious now with the day after seeing the
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u.s. downgraded we see european countries closer to defaulting on their debt. we have unemployment at nine point one percent for going on two years are you still optimistic about the global economy. so you got me there. yeah i'm an optimistic person but certainly over the last few years i've been surprised at how bad it has been and most people now the thing that i am most optimistic about however is over the next twenty thirty years i know people don't want to hear that at this point in time but look china is doing great india is doing great and that is going to help us when china and india they start producing nobel prize winners they start investing in research and development they start coming up with new ideas that's great for us as well so that's my long term view i'm still pretty optimistic in the long term china india i didn't hear the united states in there what's what's your prediction for where the u.s. is headed them. well you know i've got
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a book coming out on this called launching the innovation hadassah and so i'm glad you us. and i think we've got to do a couple of things you know we do have to think long term our patent system is out of control our education system is not working. you know high school level and below it's it's not as good as it could be our scores are low internationally and in universities you know. i hate to tell you this but. we've got people mathematics no one's doing that science no one's doing that engineering you know they've all been going on going into journalism well maybe we should tell them to go back and engineering i have a feeling there's a few more jobs there but real quickly i just have to ask you you're very smart guy you're an economist is a year ago you were optimistic in europe men in the economy got it wrong what does that mean about all of the people that are making solutions for this country are they getting it wrong. yeah they've gotten it wrong i mean there's no there's no
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question about that. we've seen bad news piece of bad news after piece of bad news after bad news i mean started out in the us in the housing sector but now we've seen in europe that the european governments just loaded on too much debt so we've seen a lot of bad news no question so hopefully we can just fall asleep and dream until twenty and thirty years go to sleep for twenty to thirty years until things improve because clearly they are not yet i appreciate your insight though and good to see you talking with the. still ahead here on r.t. football is more important than attending the president's jobs speech and a lawmaker is making that claim and he is tonight's top time winner also unhappy our crackdown on public nudity in san francisco plus a dutch woman goes to the extreme to stop her ads by phone we'll be back in a. well
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when one deals with war for us to realize that this tremendous amounts of damage that are done not just human damage but damage the physical environment in which the battlefield takes place tremendous amounts of damage done by earle bombs by napalm boy coming from the city whether it's sonic boom city tractors marine
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mammals or it's the burning oil field syria or iraq or or it's destroyed coral reefs in the pacific for ramming purposes the list just goes on and on the geneva conventions of nineteen forty nine states that they are shall be taken in the war to protect the involved against widespread long term and severe damage the united states although it is accepted almost all of the provisions of protocol one has taken exception to that. when you look for a nuclear winter against all hopes. in human blood disease measured in barrels. when your brain is most of the new blood.
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you have no idea. or a little. more news today violence is once again flared up. these are the images the world has been seeing from the streets of canada. china operations are old today. all right it's time for tonight's tool time award and tonight it goes to senator david vitter the louisiana republican is facing
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a dilemma tonight should you do is job and attend president obama's job speech on capitol hill or should he hold his n.f.l. kickoff party yeah you heard me correctly his book ball party there is torn between attending the jobs speech or hosting a party to watch the new orleans saints take on the green bay packers on wednesday this was his decision. i'm going to be watching from my family room and that are in louisiana because i have a saints game party there and i'm absolutely going to be there for the big game kickoff for the same season in the hole and i felt oh my goodness ok so you're not going to jeopardize your staying away. as i say in that i have my priorities. he has his priorities yes he does though ritter is of fanatic he's got his priorities that is great to know i am sure the residents of louisiana feel addie's knowing that their elected senator cares more about football than helping
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them find jobs now better to do is facebook page yesterday to talk about the president's job speech and also how to let everyone know about his party he wrote i will listen to the president's speech tomorrow carefully for my priority area for job creation who dat nation family and friends are coming over for a big game and to recovery and the super bowl who dat nation as a reference i guess to his favorite sports team which i didn't know until now but when news about g.o.p. members of the senate skipping out on the speech came out senator majority leader harry reid decided to have some fun and listen to what david vitter posted this afternoon typical harry reid he's now scheduled votes that should have been held this morning for. before and after the president's speech pens in those who would have skipped the speech like me so now i'll miss my own saints game party at home always knew harry was a dirty bird. oh don't worry only strengthens my who dat resolve on of the super bowl so the big question is vitor going to just come in and vote and still miss the
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president's speech nobody knows his office hasn't released that and hasn't taken it to facebook yet but vitter is not the only person boycotting this speech senator jim de mint says he's not attending along with congressman joe walsh ron paul and paul brown and back brown says he'll be holding a twitter town hall in his office instead of making the trip across the street to the house chamber to see this speech in person so here's my question for those skipping the president's address tonight congress currently has a fourteen percent job approval rating more than fourteen million people are out of work in this country so could you lawmakers act like you care at all and at least put in an appearance at least pretend that our government still functions well enough to address the problems facing this country is that too much to ask after all taxpayers are paying your salary and that is all why we are giving the members of congress who are skipping the speech tonight are two time award including david
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vitter who is more worried about football than his own job. all right it's time for happy hour and joining me tonight is our t.v. producer jenny churchill and alex sites while he is a reporter and blogger for think progress dot org all right so i don't know if you guys knew this i actually lived in san francisco and didn't but you are allowed to be naked anywhere but some locals in san francisco are fired up now over people who actually are exercising their rights to bear all take a look. the police chief in san francisco sort of leveled it was all but there's last year saying public nudity is illegal only if it's lewd in other words only a percentage is for sexual gratification and people are annoyed if nobody's annoyed have at it but people benefit is the castro district so if the new discipline going
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to restaurants and sort of going for granted in the plot so francisco supervisor scott wiener that's really the nudity is gone too far but it's not a complete cover up we just want them to put a towel on the seat before they sit down in the park. so what do you think is that a fair solution just ask the nudist to lay down a talent they're going to sit on a park bench well apparently the people who have been sitting on these park benches in the bus without putting it out of the breaking some like ancient nudist code it's apparently very well known in the news community that is what you do and what about just the idea of being nude in the city i mean i don't know we live in a fascist police state where you have to put something down before you sit down naked in public like what's next first they come for my bare bottom than my bare top and then you know we're going around this up and put clothes on all of us i mean it just sounds like a terrible and i mean however you could argue that whatever you leave behind if you're burying on a public place could infringe on somebody else's civil liberties yet i mean like
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limited. when you get committee from a park bench i don't know you can get craps for sure and write it on the net if it's online and it's got it i mean seriously my favorite part about this story is that they pointed out that according to california state ha if someone is nude and offending you you can be a citizen's arrest and it's a pretty i was under way to target it i mean there's a million citizens around like i have a problem with this and you are going to force need personally to go and arrest the nude person i don't think so yeah that's right it's never been done history the one your group of people that you don't want to make a citizen's right on that are new to this and yet they have a towel down that makes them seem a little bit more you know. i don't. yeah arrestable but i do think that one of the fun of the week because it is to tell you that you're so yeah i think one of the funniest reactions was from the actual nudists who said that they were so insulted by wieners law because this is already nudist code like how dare he and you know it
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that we don't already do this well i don't know i barely was also prom with i'm going to restaurants like i'm just sitting there naked in order i'm sorry that is too much that's just too much doubt of the whole other issue for another day because we got to move on because we all know that one of most agonizing parts about dating someone is making those nervous phone calls watch this. i haven't heard from you and i mean how stupid is it that accounts got tweaked for guys coming anyway. probably right more women are accepted into law school now than men. coming. all right so with how much labor it takes to figure out the right thing to say one dutch woman didn't have any trouble she's a forty two year old and she called her ex sixty five thousand times a year which if you want to know the math we did it for you that's one hundred seventy eight times a day one call every eight minutes. is that
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a little extravagant well actually you know she claims that they were in actuality dating that he was not her x. but i would like to point out that even if you are dating calling your significant other every eight minutes is not in any way shape or form acceptable. probably to be dating for too long if you're calling your significant other every eight minutes i mean this is a serious commitment to stalking if there's like an olympics for stalking i think this woman is a front runner oh my gosh amy did you know programmed world record as we were writing news we should let her know. her and she's probably going to need the money because i was thinking about the phone bill must be astronomical oh no they're not looking up and it's these days i don't know how the stalker thing actually was compulsively texting it might have been a little bit pricier i don't know i mean i've known people who have excessively called and texted axes and i was embarrassed for them and it was nothing at this level this should make every crazy girl feel much better done on the other. but
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every you have ever been mad at your neighbor you're going to love our next story because one connecticut man took out his anger in a very creative and vengeful manner. the connecticut man is charged with post you know fake craigslist ad inviting strangers to participate in an orgy with a bored soccer mom the ed showed a cropped photo of a topless woman and gave an address saying i'm looking for group sex and i want to please as many as i can before i go to work. ok the problem is that people actually showed up and the guy that ran this ad got probation and two hundred hours of community service as a punishment for his offense of playing a prank on his neighbor what do you guys think of that punishment i think this is something that's like seems kind of clever and funny at first and so you like to think it all the way through and my god creepy guys are going to start showing up at this woman's house and some guy actually to the wrong house and molested a teenage girl so i think he deserves to be you know given a little bit of
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a punishment here that's not a little punishment the probation this is his record two hundred hours and he had to pay for the security system for this neighbor's house i think that the security system is a little ridiculous but at the same time you can't say that you know he can't be held accountable because he didn't force these people to do what they were doing which i know has been said you know it's not fair if you're going to go and do something that then leads to other things happening because you were reckless then you need to be held accountable for your recklessness you know actions have consequences but the consequence of his action was not having that neighbor need to have a security system to keep people. would you be on the line for that i know that you said that you support me now but i just have to make my point there i mean i agree but you know earlier there were discussions that he shouldn't be responsible at all because he's not accountable for what other people do and i don't think that's fair because if you go and leave someone in the woods as a prank and find your way home and they get mauled by a bear you would definitely be charged with some type of negligence what do you think you know i am going to quiet over there have you have you don't you have done
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that so far you know i kind of wish i had come up with the idea of it but never actually gone through that i have to say it's a little bit about your and i'm curious what your cause and effect like what was the consequence that led him to do this is this proportional in some way was this relevant to whatever they apparently are having some kind of feud but we don't know what they were we don't know what they were going about but why did he go oh i know the way to get back at her is to make it seem like she wants to have an orgy on craigslist seems like there's a deeper baxter. here that we don't know about you know i don't really care about the back story but i just think that this is such an extravagant punishment for what this person actually did i mean he wasn't the person showing up for the group sex or groping the teenage girl and lasting anybody you know i did wrong when you were the one you have to admit that he had every intention of weirdos you don't post something on craigslist saying you want to have an orgy without the intention of odd strange people showing up at that house yes it was that person's responsibility then to answer the door or not answer the door or deal with whoever was on their doorstep i mean he was not charged he was you have charged him for
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lighting somebody in someone's house but he wasn't charged with full like you know facilitation of molestation he was not charged that he was charged with. posting something and i do think that he pled to something greater than what his actual crime was but i don't think you should go if scot free all right well the moral the story of what you posted on craigslist are also going to be out cleaning up trash for community service and with that that's it for tonight show thanks for tuning in make sure to come back tomorrow as well kristin will be on the show to discuss the nine eleven ten years out from a military standpoint and in the meantime don't forget to become a fan of the alona show on facebook to follow us on twitter if you missed any of tonight's show or any other nights you can catch it all at youtube dot com slash the alona show i need to thank my guests thank you for being here i didn't even get to do that and that is all the news is next.
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the term wrist attack that became synonymous with pure evil. son slow slaughter of almost three thousand people all stunned the world. and it all seemed like a nightmare. ten years on. r.g.p. remembers the attacks and its aftermath. a look back at nine eleven on our. grief in the air memorial services. held in russia and across europe for the forty three victims of wednesday's plane crash that killed almost all of one of russia's
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greatest ice hockey team. the movie to the strong message to the syrian regime should be addressed to both sides just blunt can point to the president medvedev speaks out against a one sided approach to the conflict in syria he also confirms russia's willingness to help stop the bloodshed led to a decade after the worst terror attack in u.s. history we visit the country at the forefront of the nine eleven triggered war on terror to see how people in afghanistan were affected by the tragedies aftermath. it's eight am in moscow i'm at treasure good to have you with us here on r.t. our top story ice hockey in russia has been struck a terrible blow that's being mourned across the country and across the.
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