there's a you know what fox news does the facts you know fox sports does the funny thing just completely but you know there's a unifying principle of racism there that's nice that's nice no they keep it. but you really think it's a very sick you think they were trying to make fun of those people i mean it could be more. sure i mean they could've added words different types of minorities to make fun of and i think the fact that they targeted asian people with clearly english wasn't their first language only that you know i'm sure there are agents especially on that campus where english is their first language and they would have been able to say it in an american accent and he clearly just showed the ones with accents and it's time to make fun of them i think maybe you guys are just being too hard on asian americans were a little so you know i mean it's all right let's move on let's talk about some some other people that got caught on camera when some slightly different president's job speech was last night of course and vice president biden and house speaker john

boehner had kind of a row moment talking about their favorite sport the problem is it was caught on tape. it was. true. story. it was. very. i mean it just goes on and on is that not too good to kind of capture what washington is really thinking about better than forty minutes of what obama said to me more entertain. old white guys like goals. yeah but come on isn't this troubling to our country is in such tough times i mean things are dire obama's trying to introduce a plan give a speech and they're talking about golf and laughing about it and it's like the one thing they can come. together certainly isn't it comforting though that the left

and the right can agree on something golf i don't mean right as head obama for being out of touch for being on the golf course and here the guy's not even on the golf course and he's talking about a very fast it makes you question his small talk skills to i mean he goes with golf and imagine walking in the bar or you know it or at a tailgate party and he's talking about the best ball back you know maybe i mean it's just really kind of wildly out of touch and i guarantee any time that someone on the right is going to like hammer obama for being out on the golf course people on the left are going to replay that clip as much as they want you to talking about his golf and they're going to get it again so they got some fodder for people on the left moving on california's governor jerry brown has been issuing a few vetoes recently and one of the latest has to do with a bill that would require kids who ski or snowboard to wear a helmet and if they don't then parents would get a twenty five dollar fine but check out this letter he wrote this for a veto he said while i appreciate the value of wearing a ski how that i'm concerned about the continuing and seemingly inexorable transfer

of authority from parents to the state not every human problem deserves a law but you guys think is this a win for brown or should you be wearing helmets and you personally i mean i think there should absolutely be a law for my problems every time i go with a girl i can't afford there should be a law but that should be a felony if i can afford it but i mean yeah i think in reality you know it's kind of a point you know what point do you draw the line between. parents having common sense see this is the problem that i have something that all parents have common sense and i think that's kind of an elitist view and you know a lot of kids that have negligent care and don't get the proper parenting that allows them to. know that they need to wear a helmet when they ski i don't know i kind of think that there's something to this especially in california like at the bottom of the memo. oh i think the parents

of kids in california are responsible enough to make decisions on their own for their own safety like what is california done anything good in the last thirty years other than like mainstream pornography and metallica so again all of us from california i swear we turn to underage active member of society. if i see it i would i would need anybody to tell me to fair enough fair enough all right so let's leave it at that we don't want to get too crazy our next story is about a woman who might be watching way too much of this show. all right this one i. thought you was a cast member evidently she was arrested after she bit the neck and face of an elderly man in a wheelchair who is an electric wheelchair she attacked him bit off piece of his

skin pieces of his skin so she was a vampire. maybe she was to our own team. i mean that's possible but really this is america it's about it's norman rockwell would be really proud. i mean it's it's pretty it's pretty appalling and i think what's most interesting about this is the police arrested both the woman who bit the man and. the guy i mean electric earth i'm sorry there were three older books that your new electric wheelchair also has better us that a couple times when they call this a crime but it's hooters accouterments just believe it was just involved in some kind of role playing that went very very wrong we're going to leave it on that note though this of course happened in florida which is as far as stories happen in florida but that's not to do it thanks for being here guys if you're right and that is going to do it for tonight show thanks for tuning in to make sure to come back on monday alone i will be back she will be talking about the latest developments with your financial crisis since you know if you're down and what it means for the

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we don't roast those guys because your former neighbor heard about that if you go somewhere that we're not even anything about nine eleven so if the billions in afghanistan had no idea why the us invaded their country what terror intelligence to the us missed in the first place. but it's not just countries the us attacked after nine eleven personal freedoms came under fire too so in a post nine eleven world our assaults on human rights now considered the norm. this jobs bill pass this bill pass this jobs bill this bill after sounding like a broken record i guess we know what the president wants but is obama really the man with a plan for the economy or was this jobs speech just

a bid to secure his job security. it's friday september ninth seven pm in washington d.c. i'm christine frizz out there watching our team. starting off as our a look at the impact of nine eleven ten years later ask anyone in america lie we went to war in afghanistan and most will say one thing the terrorist attacks of nine eleven but how much do people in afghanistan know about why american troops are in their country well last year a report from the international council on security and development came out basically said ninety two percent of those surveyed and never even heard of the attacks on u.s. soil september eleventh two thousand and one the report also illustrated that four in ten afghans believe the u.s. is in their country for one of two reasons either to occupy afghanistan or to

destroy islam can this be right ten years later is it possible that the vast majority of a country that has been for ever changed has no idea about what sparked its invasion the longest war in american history well a british journalist wondered the same thing he is in afghanistan and has this report. helmand in southern afghanistan this province was the brunt of the fighting between the total coalition forces would afghans in this province think about its consequences. while on patrol with the marines i get a first opportunity to ask a couple of young afghan men what they know about money let's go to. ya. never heard about before with a few more i think us know where it is we don't know so that's because because we are former neighborhood about the need for the world big time or sun coming through

. the two young men are clearly never heard of nine eleven. but maybe the elders of the local show would have more to say yeah i know you see. this ng i think just can see the smoke on the buildings and that's a that's only thing i can say when you go show this picture because i think there was a car if i just got here i would be surprised but having been here now for six months and this is promised stone age is where we are and what about the rest of. destiny so there was a guy who said it was kabul was clearly never going to kabul just shows you how isolated are you in your own country among the i don't understand what. do you know you don't think you know you've been america afghanistan come to this point and get the airplane from here to attack in the united states you know how much power the fun of. it was nice to go from iraq to then here is a lot easier to understand you know why you're here and me so yeah that makes you

know a good picture of myself it's better to see afghans looking at it in this context while wearing the uniform if you're in the right. to back that was. going to make and saying we're going to help you to discern one by being under distress how many danes and this are we going to help you where is the help. we can go to this thing to get to our kids are going into fighting and they do their own kids painted a person i don't indeed and. i do sympathize or understand what you're some were saying it's even just from the weather we've had recently people losing their homes and nobody to help them so when you have when you can feed yourself the earth how yourself are you to care about somebody you know six thousand miles away. so i can understand this because of about over the top of this you know that i never thought to ask those questions of. anybody here so why we're here amazingly in a country where for ten years a war has been fought with nine eleven as its root cause and justification it turns

out not only with the villages oblivious to nine eleven so with the afghan police and even some of the translators working with the u.s. military but you don't know that this creates a god i have no idea about syria but you are seeing these pictures before. the survey taken in twenty ten by the international council on security and development found that ninety two percent of afghan men in illinois and other afghan provinces had no idea what nine eleven was with american troops that start with during this year it seems likely that they will leave afghanistan without the vast majority of afghans ever having really understood why they came in the first place adam puts from afghanistan forty. and you know i think this is an important story that isn't often told what do they know what do they think i want to bring into the discussion jake gilberto he's a veteran r.t. blogger and co-founder of veterans for rethink afghanistan jake is in chicago right now and jake i want to get your take first on this report we just showed i mean i think a lot of americans would be absolutely shocked to know that there are is anywhere

in the world that hasn't heard of nine eleven especially the place in which the war sparked as a result. christine you know this is a great point and kudos to our to you for putting together a terrific package this really highlights a lot of what the mainstream media is not covering inside of afghanistan we've got hundreds of american kids getting killed american or still thousands of afghans billions of dollars being spent for what afghans have no idea what it's there for it's kind of like christine that you remember seeing are probably star wars return of the jet i do remember when she comes on the bush years and if you watch or like all the talk out there and see american soldiers and helicopters that's really what we've got going on i think it's an interesting analogy and one that i think a lot of people can relate to in really simple terms jake i know that there's it's really interesting in one part of afghanistan i know it's just one simple story but

i know that you know i sound for gone to school there they're trying to bomb the taliban troops who have been inside and you know that school hasn't been built and as a result fifteen hundred students and they say you know the have the answer of the school says boys and girls both have been left to to study and sit out in the hot sun as a result what do you think this says to the people of afghanistan to the children in afghanistan when schools are bombed and then not rebuilt. yeah and i think this is the key question i have i'm very critical of the hearts and minds campaign because i don't think it works very well especially if you accidentally kids or schools or whatever and this always inevitably happens in war innocent people always get dragged up into it so what it means is when the us drops bombs or nato or whatever accidentally kills somebody our mission our eventual departure is inherently. flawed and we can't leave we continue to do that stuff and also i think

this is the bigger point the united states does not have the apparatus financial or military we're with all right now to nation build in afghanistan counterinsurgency school building whatever we can do some things but for the most part the the what the pentagon's putting forth is not helping the afghans the best way that they need that we can do some things what things take that u.s. troops u.s. military u.s. government still in people of doing now i think that the united states and the coalition can do helpful to aid the mentor judges and legal counsel i think they can do you support n.g.o.s and local. efforts to bring agriculture in that sort of thing and i think in some ways we can help afghanistan get energy and things like that we've seen that you know seen some sort of economic development the last ten years but in terms of defeating the taliban

militarily or rooting the world of evil or stopping all the time you know this is this we've got to get this out of our playbook because it's it's it's the hail mary that never works and say remind me when you were in iraq what year i was in iraq in two thousand and three for the invasion i was in the afghanistan pakistan war the very beginning to go to one and i went back to the middle east and afghanistan several times since then doing civilian were. but you know the issues and i know is a bigger group rethink afghanistan is really active in terms of getting the message out about a lot of the issues on both sides of the aisle a lot of the issues that you know the troops face when they come back whether it be p.t.s.d. suicide what's the story that you hope to see on the mainstream media this weekend as everyone looks back and remembers nine eleven. i think everybody should look at nine eleven and some sort of some sort of remorse and there's a lot of people that you've got you know a lot of innocent people that didn't need to die but i really think that we need to

take that and build off of that and make sure that we don't make the tragic mistakes that nine eleven letters sent to the iraq war the surge in iraq nation building in iraq in afghanistan and a global global. war efforts in saudi yemen but in pakistan and everywhere else mean this but kind of think that americans should say ok there are bad people and bad people will pose a threat and try to kill innocents but you don't have to occupy and base every country across the planet to make sure that doesn't happen and second i want to switch gears just on a little bit of a lighter note you know a lot of us have been talking about in the last couple days a lot of things going on politically here in d.c. we have the republican debate two nights ago and then last night obama's jobs speech and i want to talk to you about this because you're one of those rare people that consider themselves a republican from what i understand as the voting in two thousand a president obama so i want to get your take on just why you decided that that was

the right decision and what your thoughts are now well i get your errand my dirty laundry thanks. would basically when i saw a couple of towels and doors president barack obama for me this is a turning point to say ok if the alternative is the moose lady in the grumpy old man and rock obama and i often say rock obama especially when colin called me to i tremendous respect. that he would do so as well so that's what led me to it and secondly i could look for somebody that thought the iraq war was a good idea but now that we're here ten years after nine eleven in the midst of one of the greatest financial crisis unless there are serious reforms done it in the comment that i think that. it was their ticket it once was at the spirit interesting things that they could criticize and you know the war this is good and

if you brought on the speech last night you heard a lot of good things in there. that my political genius to the right would think it's a good idea still i think probably among those take it is the idea that the president did acknowledge that a lot of people coming back from war veterans have a really tough time getting a job he said that was going to be one of his priorities so hopefully we do see something come out of that we always appreciate you coming on we miss you here in d.c. our t. logger and co-founder of veterans for rethink afghanistan takes over tough pretty well with the question as so many are asking but i think it's finally appropriate to ask now that it has been a full decade after nine eleven what have we learned looking back there is evidence that has led to call people to call the attacks on nine eleven a failure not of intelligence but of connecting the dots americans were promised intelligence reform the question is how they got in and what all those other theories also about what happened that day have they been given any more credence

well for more on all these questions earlier i spoke to lieutenant colonel anthony shaffer he's a senior fellow at the center for advanced defense studies he has a lot of experience in this field and i just simply asked him what the u.s. has learned and what it's liking in when it comes to gathering intelligence here's what he had to say. well we've learned that the threat no learns very quickly how to adapt i don't believe that we've invested well in this trillion dollars we spent over the past ten years because there's the old american adage here you can lead a horse to water but you can't make a drink so while i think that we paid a lot of money relating to conducting operations overseas afghanistan i do believe we should have declared victory in zero three and left iraq with the intel was not there to justify the action and now at this point time we're looking at these new threats were were not is well prepared as we should and let me let me answer that in two parts first. we've made a lot of intelligence reforms

a change the community about resources but they've not changed the culture and that's why you saw the near missed a good sized relishes odd move talab as you you kind of alluded to the pieces are all there is just they were put together so today's terrorism alert the second part of my answer is indicative of a system which is overreacting the idea of publishing an eight page document about a specified unspecified threat spends everybody up but does not helpful in actually putting resources or they need to be to help prevent terrorism attack rather than just focusing specifically again you know we've seen so many times. that evidence that came out you know in august of two thousand and one. connecting the dots didn't happen and right now in many way we have the f.b.i. we have this cia we have the n.p.t. the national counterterrorism center how many more you know levels of bureaucracy are there and is it important to keep front of these agencies that brit to what

extent do you think will need to change immensely. the agencies have separate distinct missions however the information sharing should be totally integrated and seamless and that's just not happening you again it goes back to my answer of the culture you can change the infrastructure or you want to have the same people who did or did not share information before they're going to do it again and that's what we're seeing here there's too much layering i spoke to one of the nine eleven commissioners about three years ago about his view of did they get it right is the director of national intelligence what you do as a commissioner who understands intelligence is that what you want and he said absolutely not they do not want another bureaucracy nonfunctioning bureaucracy sitting on top of other layers of bureaucracy we're supposed to streamline not make more complex so this is why you see the information sharing and the near misses. i would also argue major hassan was preventable as well had people looked at

everything into a calorie so we've not really made ourselves any safer and i think it's just a matter of time before someone who is looking at our system goes around again. to figure out how to go through the system in such a way to not be detected and you get the sense was that i can't say for that this is something that is actively being worked on certainly there's so much information that neither you or i can be privy to based on you know the necessary thinkers the edit but do you get defense that you know you say that things are just happening the same way that they happened before do you think that there are people that are in the white house trying to rethink this think outside the box to change it. well . honestly i don't believe so i think status quo is where we're at there's going to have to be some necessary changes regarding budget which spending far too much money is just not sustainable and i still believe you continue to look at value added what is the value added of having these layers of bureaucracy so fundamentally no i don't believe based on the recent attacks that were

fundamentally better understanding the other thing to remember the terrorist groups we're talking about primarily all tied up they have a very long memory and they're very patient between the ninety three world trade center boxes that are bombing and two thousand and one was was almost a decade we're now at a decade after nine eleven these folks don't think in terms of months they think in terms of decades so as much as we study us we try to study them and we always have to get it right to prevent the attacks they only have to figure it out once they get around us to be to be successful we stop a lot of attacks but a lot more are inevitable as i see it and you mentioned early on what most people think now which is that there was not present credible intelligence to go to iraq in the first place you also said you know the u.s. should have left afghanistan back in two thousand and three to what extent do you think that's right saying in these countries has made the terror threat works. well key reasons first the drone program for example one of the things that one of the

recent former obama administration officials talked about as being bad i agree you're creating generations of terrorists we don't have to do i'm not saying we should use drones we should use boots on the ground and grab people because when you kill someone you lose the intelligence value of being able to talk about it and that was lieutenant colonel anthony shaffer senior fellow at the center for advanced defense studies. all right so it's really important angles to look at this from human rights violations are taking place in abundance freedoms for americans have been cut back and yet there are a whole lot of people unsure about how and what we have achieved earlier i spoke to the investigative journalist and author of the guantanamo files and he worthington he was in london and to start things off i asked him a pretty simple question where exactly is this country ten years later post nine eleven her system. well it's just a masterly we have a whole load of problematic legacy issues really left by the bush administration

which the obama administration has found a very difficult to deal with one side of the most kind of iconoclast presume the soldiers will not help the soldiers terrorists were not held as criminals people were held as enemy combatants without rights president obama has said. it remains a unique and offensive way of holding people nobody else who claims to be a civilized country does so we're left with that we're left with a legacy i feel that was a brilliant report about afghanistan where people in afghanistan don't even know what it's about it's part of china we have a kind of confusion that we had an invasion of afghanistan looking for terrorists and looking to close down the taliban. military fight on the one hand you have a terrorist on the other hand to became confused we are enemy combatants we have a war on terror we just have a message from fusion and we still haven't sorted them out let me ask you this just because you brought up the initial report that we showed the reporter on the ground

actually showing photographs of the towers falling to you know regular farmers people who live in afghanistan. granted certainly a lot of them probably haven't heard of it but even if they had even if they had been told or had seen a television one it's not really in their best interest and be to admit that they've heard. well i mean i suppose i could see that i think i think you know maybe some people were taking that but it seems to me that for a lot of people in rural afghanistan we don't have access to the internet we don't have access to the global media. in this area you know. clash of different parts of the world different perceptions you know want a huge pile up against something to stand in the sense but.

after the terrorists and yet they tied in with an invasion and occupation of the country you know what the united states to do ten years ago in afghanistan the taliban and to finding kill bin laden and al qaida is a very different thing from the cheney occupation when the initial fall of the taliban was a long time ago was ever since it's all about have come back the cost of the narrative i think in afghanistan the loss of afghan people just doesn't make sense they're being defended from in themselves i think it's really important to do you know specific examples of this i found an article about a school in the northern bhagwan province in afghanistan that was destroyed by i staff the international security assistance force in an operation against the taliban now this is what the article says the article says you know local students then had to study outside of the school in the scorching sun ever since the school was gone and they had no.