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the lawyers have been putting a fierce resistance in bani walid one of the colonels last else a leader is on the run and now on interpol's wanted list he's claimed in recent all your messages that he's still in libya the fighters have been given until saturday to surrender to the new leadership in streets across the country celebrations over the end of the old regime of been replaced by fear as artie's refreshing. a city celebrates for more than ten days and even capital has been rejoicing in the dictator's fall where the he wanted to hand he's portrayed here in the central square for his rules forty second anniversary but we put our flag up instead we want we are so happy without it it seems in the last weeks rebel fighters have fired more power that's a clear shot during this sort on tripoli early august. levy of pheno
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very good evening with. this third gaddafi near the duffys thought he told told there be war love you all of the people look at me no you see loved him there was rather pleased that was and we don't argue that because we're doing all right would they ok but away from jubilant crowds we meet those who are not so pleased after a man leaves in tripoli is obviously in district historically pro khadafi but the rebels arrived his sister was badly injured she's still in hospital in tunisia. other one doesn't want to show his face on camera and seized on a hidden location for the interview he says revolution has brought much fear in its wake. there is no peace there is no safety in the city we don't want our children outside what is known we are afraid we always wait for something bad only that it was here at least we didn't have to sleep awake what we do know. of the ramadan
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says he also wanted change and a brighter future for his country but not face way. people are dying on both sides of the cities destroyed and no one cares do they seriously think that he changed it for the better don't want you so just look around is that what you wanted and what is around is a scene of widespread destruction and social chaos of badly damaged buildings matched by the rising stink of garbage and decomposing bodies youngsters roam the streets barely old enough to understand that what they carry are weapons not toys many shops schools and hospitals are closed while the city's symmetries a growing bigger and bigger. shortly after triple in fact going to rebel hands with national transitional council libya's new authority claimed it was moving here from
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benghazi it weeks have passed and there is still no sign of order to race toward the city functioning by itself and treading a fine line between freedom and allocate. bridge national. tripoli libya. explodes a war the sense of national identity and united kingdom is on the wane it comes at a time when scotland's ruling party the s. and p. has been pressing hard for independence coming to pass because you're wales is not far behind with growing calls to from. the small nations ambitions welcome to wales part of the u.k. and a proud nation with its own language and customs and the latest voice to call for independence plight comrie which means the party of wales has all with the country could be better off without the u.k. and it seems increasing numbers are starting to see their point of view our economy
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has been a problem with the interest and priorities of the south east of england to the fore and independent of course will be able to chart a different course. wales is a long way from declaring independence but it's no longer just a pipe dream people here voted overwhelmingly earlier this year in favor of handing the welsh assembly full law making powers that was considered a turning point in welsh nationhood and plights couldn't read the party of wales have undoubtedly taken heart from the surprise victory of the scottish national party that victory in may the s.n.p. an outright majority in the scottish parliament which has many powers devolved from westminster parties promise to hold a scotland wide referendum on whether to declare independence according to applied comrie that marks the turning of the tide for a unified u.k. people now who i believe are beginning to to use the word independence in in
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a welsh context which state they they wouldn't have gotten a few years and asked activity that size think the people in where's it going to see that. when stock can becomes independent the next logical step is for awareness to be coming to things and of course separatism is nothing new to the british isles and the thousands of victims of the troubles in northern ireland are testament to how high feelings can run both in the present day and for centuries past while national sentiment may not be a new phenomenon the reasons for it have changed over the years and in these current turbulent economic times money talks scotland has gas but while wales was a proud coal producing nation it's mines and now closed and it's got some of the highest unemployment levels in the u.k. because of that the older generation is reserved when it comes to independence but
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young people are filled with national fervor but them independence is less about money and more about nationhood and identity and wales needs to be independent because it is a great country and we do we do it and i know joining has already paid off there i think with more patriotic feeling that we have a lot of culture here which is again just seem to be better here at the moment that you can get free prescriptions. education seems to be a bit much to. me says it's going to build on that support providing not just emotional reasons why wales should be independent but concrete economic reasons too and it says wales does have resources particularly land and sea for green energy if the scots vote for independence wales might not be far behind nor emmett's r.t. cardiff. brings up to date for the moment.
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they're with us live here in moscow. more news today violence is once again flared up. these are the images the world is
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seeing from the streets of kenya that. shine corporations are on the day. if you're just joining us a very warm welcome this is a lot from the russian capital top stories now this hour america marks a decade since the tragedy of nine eleven which united the nation brought about two of the bloodiest wars of the twenty first century. we're not going to stop which was invaded by the us shortly after the atrocity of the relentless taliban staged another deadly suicide bombing to discover as most afghan civilians don't even know why their country was ever occupied by foreign troops. russia in the sports world say goodbye to the country's top national ice hockey team wiped out in
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a plane crash in the blink of an eye. and moscow calls on the international community not to take sides in syria's internal violence as president did it says can negotiate is the only way to things around the arab league announces it's reached an agreement with damascus on long promised reforms. that sit for me today my colleague should be here in less than thirty minutes from now in the meantime it's our special report about the deadly legacy of war and how it can come back to haunt soldiers even long after they've returned special report next.
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the war has changed dimensions. has changed both in a practical and in a motivational sense. than anything else the impulses for war have changed forever more is one of the most difficult concepts to define today more than ever because they are still classified as using time periods such as from one thousand fifteen thousand nine hundred eighteen and some mention forty to mention forty five . days there's a war and people have ignored it when it started but what is most worrying is not the fact that it's uncertain when it will end but i do think the real problem is that it is not even known if it is going to come true. perhaps
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a future war will be won with no soldiers and troops will still exist but it will be an invisible illo. thank . the war has evolved substantially interventional terms of where centuries and millennia the war has been by dimensional look at what is being fought on the mainland and in the sea. the first gap in the war evolution can be compared to a few. evolution of man assume the upright position of the upright position in the evolution is the vertical position of the conflict when the airplane became a weapon it starts to become possible to materially turn the whole battle dynamic upside down back in the day the people had to leave home to go to war because it was like a football match in
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a studio. nowadays the people played football in the streets the war is widespread . we don't need to wait for sarajevo and for someone to get close to a car to start opening fire. we just need someone clicking with the mouse able to give the first of the impulses to make it again as if it was a line of dominoes fall so these don't know pieces fall one over the other until the end of the whole chain if you know. we just have to think about the energy supply finance communications and the transport system that happens in a while it will be possible to apply the whole planet. let's
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think for a while back to nine eleven it was a terrorist attack we can all agree on this. call it a terrorist attack we were fair to the purpose of the motivations but if we look deeply into it gets an act of war highly asymmetrical because no one weapons have been used to write a column toasters because we are so familiar with the airliners and to see them and to catch them to us they're like a household appliance the same as a toaster. these household appliances toasters been used to come weapons. over to. thousand eight hundred casualties at present i think that there are around seventy thousand workers on the health laborious race affected by cancer just in the municipality of flora manhattan whole kurdish additionally we have over one hundred fifty thousand citizens ect and by different illness sense is
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a never ending call for cancer leukemia lymphoma and all of the sicknesses clinics. here i hope that the person that's cause that spirit will realize the all actions. of the collapse of skyscrapers. explosion of to airplanes over the case of the mainly composed of how the metal and the dust hit the generations from these exclusions. supplied to the facts of the original explosion. they generated and pollutants and new york citizens are still suffering because of it and. when the first airplane hit the first twin tower i was in a military environment and you got
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a high command place out of control. as a matter of fact this first attack immediately followed by the second one was being seen as the beginning of world war three. i'm not talking about rational thought. it was the instinctive response. it was something like of events of fear an emerging fear that founded ounce or in the form of a stereotype of world war three. if it ever happens the world war three will probably not be a clash between the two armies either so their class or to take no. ologies. perhaps world war three has already begun and we didn't even notice it because it's not a traditional war on the battle ground. of the film we'll let's start by saying that by my reckoning this is the fourth war not the third that we already had a third conflict and we call it the cold war. because in my opinion the fourth
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world war is already in progress but it isn't fought with the aid of weapons it is a mistake to fight using weapons if you always loose all the participants loose. am especially now we have such powerful weapons that could be dragged into a foolish war with hundreds of thousands of casualties if this is the main risk we are playing we are assuming enormous risks and we aren't even aware of it as it would be going to become. a debt that is nuclear weapons have surely marked a strong revolution in both military and security affairs and in the for their creation there had always been a shortage of firepower in relation to the wishes of strategists while the nuclear weapons provided firepower greater than any political purpose rationally
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prosecutable. there for nuclear weapons specially during the cold war most of the known war weapons. but what is happening now adays is the normality there is no order a great change with a continuous redefinition of the international order it can lead to unexpected results a redefinition of new roles and a change where we ignore what is useful what is useless and what is harmful to new subjects are emerging almost every day and it is unknown if these subjects will be good or evil. just i just you just have to think about the international finance and so yesterday we thought that that would have been the universal solution to all the problems are you whereas now it has become one of the enemies to fight against . russia.
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what has changed in the war concept is not just its definition or its idea the war changed in the way it is fault and in its motivations. more than anything else what has changed is the impulses for the war. since the peace of westphalia the war had finally become an affair between sovereign states the nowadays it is not a war or a confrontation between sovereign states anymore want to visit confrontation between wills between different interests. not just between organizations but also between organizations. what has modified the concept of war from the. current one is the fall of the agreement established
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during the westphalia treaty. the treaty implied the wars are an affair between states because when a country was defeated on the battlefield it accepted the political defeat and turned into an ally of the winner. nowadays the war is not an affair between states anymore because it became more expensive and the profits have reduced. to a present it depends on the relative productiveness of the different economies in other terms of the competitiveness of the different countries taken a system. in an era where the states lose power we see on the other hand the growth of the corporations it is easy to think about the american corporations because they are
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the most powerful ones we could also talk about the swiss ones that are under the spotlight as much as the americans. but they still exist they are strong and can determine the future of the whole world why because they have more parle full means than the state's. corporations or economic aren't subject to a government anymore called the back in the day some governments had their own corporations today it's not like that anymore today the corporations own the states they have states that are paid their commands. come and there are no rules of connection between the economic and the political power or the economic power of the people that lead it. to the state as an institution. nowadays the state is a mere agent the provide services is intended to be the user of the services.
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a part of them are for the citizens yet most of them are intended for the people that assume economic power which nowadays in this particular historical context economic power is the only real power. the dimension of the war is symbolic as we said that it's a clash between different wills in order to pursue interests. who manages the interests and manages the war. the subject that manages the interests is not the state any more. hugo chavez in venezuela believes that a statesman is the one that manages the state. if that is true he is the last one left. while in the rest of the world we see that strong
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economic interests develop connections with the state organization because we aren't talking about people's concept of multinational companies. carol for multinational company with a corporation made of people from different states here we are talking about corporations that can influence several states to have states at their disposal. if you like every saturday something that we have to think that in italy we just experienced a case that can be key to understanding what a corporation is and what a state is that if it is true that the head of the italian military secret service has had the phones under the control of the talon corporation it while i'm not going to mention the name of this corporation but it is easy to figure out i spend this is symbolic of the loss of the importance of the states. the status of the state has changed since it lost almost all its prerogatives orders here because if
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the void is always filled by something that is why the corporations are progressively taking the place of the state they were in american comic books and movies the theme of a world led by the corporations is nothing new but if that was because the state is going to withdraw even in that which concerns military and intelligence affairs the corporations will be progressively more capable of producing events that events that can result in a war after all and the last wars fought in the middle east the importance of troops that back in the day would have been called mercenaries and at present are called contractors is evident sorely needed but good enough where nowadays the war really has an asymmetrical dimension of what i mean is that war is not a clash between two different armies. is more
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a clash between two different wills to a certain idea or to deny something from the at home an assertion and deny. are nowadays the inputs for the war. perhaps they may experience some interruptions to a large extent they carry on being the same wars. for four weeks or three so nowadays there are three different approaches to war three different types of war which are firstly there is the classic war with an open frontal clash between two armies and so on. secondly there is the stabilisation in the stabilisation war between countries destroyed with one of the opponents attempting to stabilize a country or an area and the other one doing the opposite of the stabilizing. of the third is the concept of war against terrorism a concept introduced in the last few years by the us government and abroad a classic war scenario such as the iraq invasion which is the proof of the intimate
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connection between these three different types of war. politics in the fight against terrorism the relation between the attacker and the defender is neither equal nor symmetrical it is unclear who is attacking and who is defending all the boundaries ethical spatial temporal and technological vanished. nowadays an opponent using archaic tools like the taliban in afghanistan can seriously harm super advanced courses and this is really happening now to us british and even italian troops in that scenario yes or no. our weakness in the fight against terrorism consists of the fact that the terrorists especially the suicide bombers are ready to die while we aren't going to change due to this fact we already starred in
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a losing position. the second one ever so. let's take a person that is not afraid of dying is going to have another one that maybe is part of a voluntary military service because he needs a better wage the person that went back home is surrounded by comforts and another one that isn't scared of dying because he doesn't have anything to loose again a person with a strong ideology and another one considering the battle as an ordinary job well done the physical clash begins one of them will surely experience more troubles the sequel it will. not only different motivations different technologies different tools but also a different idea of what the war is to make this phenomenon of the war phenomena to
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be highly on balanced and balanced not in favor of the stronger side but in favor of who has less to loose. because let me keep. al qaeda does not need to exist as we are using these terms in a negative way reinforcing the al qaeda ideology. it gives us this product of death products under the al qaeda brand if it works exactly like a supermarket and. agency or any other economic entity that wants to be recognized under that particular brand.
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name what causes the real damage is not the terrorism itself the real damage comes from us from our fear of terrorism. if you look into the terrorist attacks that we experienced this may sound incredible but the number of casualties that appeared so great to us is still well below the casualties caused by car accidents during a normal weekend for example. nevertheless the real strong impact comes from people's reaction to terrorism the economic damage the obstacles to our possibility of freely traveling and so on. everything that affects our daily life is damage that we create ourselves it doesn't come from terrorism crashing we've got you know we are more afraid of the things we are told rather than of the real happenings that we progress of lee find out that the most important war is the one made for the media.
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and if it is there nowadays it's not information warfare limited exclusively to some professionals it would be about how this information warfare is fought by everyone it's this warfare that around the year two thousand lebanese and israelis used. the israelis couldn't stand the images broadcast by hezbollah's website and so they decided to shut it down and have been able to rescue those who were calling for help that the hezbollah then decided to repay the us with a denial of service attack a block their servers completely. at that point we discovered that the hezbollah have the same capabilities as the israelis but they can attack the tell me because change they can hit the knesset or the bank of in.

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