international community not to take some of the serious internal violence as president is that it says negotiation is the only way to peace while the arab league announces it's reached an agreement with democrats it's time for. the decade that followed the nine eleven attacks was marred by boards four hundred the flag of reading the world of terror and lawrence. where u.s. official in george w. bush administration told us he that america things it holds and then challenge both place in the world and abuses that power is no longer. i. after nine eleven america did not just go after those who perpetrated that tragic vicious attack it only campaigned on nations that had nothing to do with nine eleven we're talking about iraq where hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians have died since two thousand and three america's been in constant war since nine eleven in different countries are we talking about one of the most

profound overreactions in military history to talk about that i'm joined by colonel lawrence wilkerson whose service call in powell as chief of staff collin powell secretary of state under george w. bush colonel wilkerson thank you so much for joining me thanks for having me more than six thousand american servicemen have died in the last decade of war spawned by the nine eleven attack. tragedy worth remembering and knowing no doubt but why in all those speeches delivered by american officials i never hear about hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians dead in the wars waged by the united states and other countries like iraq as a collective entity we seem to think were exceptional and so exceptional that we don't have to think about other people were as i said that's a position you can maintain as long as you are as powerful as we were powerful as

roman in its day post world war two but we're no longer that powerful in our powerful recedes even as we speak here today some of the people who were at the helm back then are now writing books saying everything they did was right including guantanamo including everything else i'm talking about dick cheney first of all president under george w. bush and at the same time they're all blaming each other for something why all this confusion and should one be worried about the general picture that's being created at the last decade of war because they're all trying to blame each other and trying to get out of some of the blame and yes we should be. why are they trying to blame each other let's let's face a factor for a moment that most americans don't even think about. nine eleven happened on george w. bush and dick cheney's what. they allowed the greatest killing of americans on american territory since there are but. a lot of their rhetoric and aggressive actions post nine eleven was to hide that fact and also to keep it from happening again because

if it had happened again they probably would have been impeached on the spot thrown out of office so we spent four trillion dollars to counter an attack by bin laden's a lhari that cost maybe half a million that's not very cost effective that's really bad it's bad business so you have to understand that first of all about the bush cheney administration the second thing you have to understand i think is that we have made a cottage industry if not to much more than a cottage industry out of the what my former boss colin powell has called the terrorist industrial complex lots of people are making lots of money off of this so-called global war on terror you're saying that you had lots of doubts about building this case for war in iraq was it possible that some point. to stand up and say no we have doubts we're not writing this speech where we're out of it we all did key points in the preparation of old pals presentation on some of those

occasions george tenet and his deputy john mclaughlin said ok ok we'll roll that out of the cia head of the cia and the director of central intelligence at the time . will throw that out and they threw it out the real essence of that presentation that they preserved they being george tenet and john mclaughlin and i think under some strong influence from the vice president's office they preserved and that was the mobile biological laboratories that was the active nuclear program as symbolized by the aluminum tubes and it was the existing chemical stocks and. next sions hard connections between al qaeda and baghdad those were the real faults of goods in that briefing that george tenet and john mclaughlin the representatives of not just the u.s. intelligence community but of israel finance britain jordan and a host of others who were feeding intelligence into us. that's what they said was

sacrosanct they said that is the case that is what saddam hussein is doing only later did we learn that even those elements of his presentation were composed of half truths false woods even and i think today after doing more research outright lies lies created in the defense department under undersecretary of defense for policy doug feith and his special iraq team lie and lies created in the vice president in your opinion because they wanted for the same reason that in the summer of two thousand and two i have discovered that b. emphasis on enhanced interrogation techniques changed suddenly from being to try and find out if another attack were coming after all a lot of time expired for another attack or a coming it would have come. in the summer of two thousand and two it shifted suddenly to enhanced interrogation in order to find out if baghdad had contacts with al qaida so we were actually torturing people not under the so-called smoking

gun argument that we might have another attack so it was justified we were torturing people so we could attack iraq and convince the american people we should do so. that's how drastic it got now ask me why they want to go to war with iraq and i'll give you a half a dozen answers if it's douglas feith that's protection of israel if it's paul wolfowitz the deputy secretary of defense it's a little bit of israel it's a little bit of oil and it's a little bit of bringing peace and democracy and freedom to the middle east if it's george bush who i fear the nexus between al qaida and baghdad which cheney had convinced him of i'm sure george tenet had convinced him of it george tenet didn't think there was that big a nexus. with dick cheney i think it was a while iraq right now is sitting on probably two hundred billion barrels maybe three hundred billion barrels that's a racks on all of the ports that surpasses the. yes if iraq is sitting on three

hundred billion barrels of oil if that turns out to be true it will be more than saudi arabia now you know why dick cheney went to war in iraq it also was the low hanging fruit north korea was far more dangerous but too difficult one hundred thousand casualties were predicted by the pentagon on both sides so would be destroyed iran was too difficult seventy million people not fractured like the iraqis and the sunni and shia and christian and other so the low hanging fruit was a rock just use the moment in the wake of nine eleven they use the moment in in the wake of nine eleven to divert from afghanistan a real target should have been our real target and go to iraq that's exactly what they did you said they would testify if they put someone like dick cheney on trial and out but when q. kissed them off i think he's already done it no one needs to accuse him of anything he has admitted publicly it is on videotape that he condoned waterboarding that he would still waterboard then he does not believe waterboarding is torture

waterboarding is torture there is a ipso facto case the man's guilty but they're saying they did it in the best interest of their country it seems to be the ultimate reasoning which can't be confronted what would you say to that i say that the in never justifies the means and the question is does the lesser evil ever justify itself because it prevents a greater evil or some real problems with that argument the logical problems as well as philosophical and what i would call value laden problems first is you can never know a hypothetical you never know if your lesser evil action actually prevented the greater evil big cheney spends hours on television and elsewhere and in this book trying to say that his actions prevented a greater evil another attack on the united states and so forth well that's his interpretation my interpretation of the bureaucracy. which is probably far better than his because i was buried in it i heard people talking about it every day so

bottom line is i know what dick cheney doesn't know because he was in the ivory palace and he can't know horse soldiers surrounding cheney the people who surrounded cheney or david addington and john hannah and scooter libby and they tell dick cheney what dick cheney wants to hear george tenet told dick cheney what dick cheney wanted to hear oh yes it's working mr vice president we're getting great information and we're stopping terrorist attacks that is utter bull they didn't stop anything through inherent enhanced interrogation techniques have that from some of the most respected people in the f.b.i. and the intelligence community so i can't fault big cheney for not knowing the truth because he couldn't know the truth he's trapped he's trapped in his own military but the truth is the methods don't work and they rebound to your discredit and they recruit as you said for your enemy dick cheney is asked what would happen

if an american were captured in iran and what would happen if they waterboarding because they thought he was a threat to the state of iran and so forth he just skirted around the question what he really said was if you listen closely americans are better than anybody else in the world americans shouldn't be waterboarding but anybody else we can waterboard especially if we're americans doing it that's essentially what dick cheney said now here's the kicker about forty percent of america agrees with him. you poll you look at the polls that have been done about forty percent of america at any given time they think that americans have the right to torture other people and other people don't have the rights to torture americans for various reasons most seven think it's that way because we have a bigger gun that's why they think we can get away with it and do it because we have a bigger gun that's why i say the reckoning is coming the reckoning when we are just another country in the world and that day is coming it may not come in my lifetime

but unfortunately i think it's coming in my children and my grandchildren's like time and this is going to be a hard time for washington because we no longer going to have the money where no are going to have the economic might we're no longer going to have the military might and so forth to say to the world we can torture you but you can't torture us many say that america's response to nine eleven was one of the most profound overreactions in military history with your grave with that i think initially it was proportional it was rational it was fairly well supported in the international community and it was a sadness that yes the initial reaction what we should have done was gone to afghanistan as we did we did what we did about six months later said ok here's your government karzai you've got it go ahead and run your country as best you can we'll give you economic and financial support from afar we're going home oh by the way

footnote. if you entertain terrorist in this country again we'll come back and do it again in what way could that overreaction backfire. i think it already has and this is a profound change really that's happened since world war two it's been creeping up on us and now with libya it's here we have a an executive power that is beyond any check by the people by the congress or by the courts for war we can go to war to drop of a coin it matters not that the obama administration and i have to say i voted for president obama it matters not that they have protested rather futilely and they really that they weren't involved in hostilities that the war powers act was not relevant and so for that certainly was any time you kill people for state purposes the war powers act is relevant and the constitution is relevant we've reached a point now where the present in the united states can kill people for state

purposes any time he or she would feels the need james madison said very eloquently when you compare combined the power to initiate war with the power to execute it you have achieved tyranny that is a very profoundly worrying situation in this that's happened in this country. right.

now. it's a decade through the trying to decode nine eleven which united a nation brought about two of the bloodiest war the twenty first century. in afghanistan which was invaded by the few hours shortly after their transfer to be relentless turned upon consultation another deadly suicide involving a president who discovers most i'm going to civilians don't even know why their country was ever occupied by foreign troops and. russia has been mourning the loss of one of its top hockey teams that locomotive to get us in a plane crunch hungry to that game of the season and tragedy how shall do sport with ceremonies in garrison in other countries bushnell players and training stop in the disaster. in the international community not to take sides in theory of internal bonhams as president of the fed says negotiation is the only way to peace while the arab league it and says it's reached an agreement with damascus on the long promised reforms. on the news for you in less than

a quarter of an hour and the mean time units here with this. good to have you with us this is sports day plenty ahead over the next ten minutes or so including all this. moving on up sports like moscow's stretched their unbeaten record to eight games in the russian premier league with victory over the car. pitched battle reeling rugby world cup champions south africa age wales in their opening clash of this year's campaign. and give me five top clone world finals kick off in moscow with the home side earning a podium spot on day one. let's get going with football where sports. since june in the russian premier league has been extended for another week the couple

sides meeting with the first of sunday's four games only one goal coming on a dreary day in perm archon zuba have the chance to alter their school board midway through the second half but miss chewed his effort when really he should have at least forced a save the bones literally soaking in the experience when nicklaus pereira did i break the deadlock with a pinpoint free kick five minutes from time not strike from the origin time enough for the muscovites to take all three points. the league's other sports meanwhile saw there was continue. to go to stuff. off the opportunity to open from the spot thirty eight minutes and although the former russian international beat the keeper he couldn't beat the post both teams with trouble executing on creating chances on till the. first interim period started home to be three minutes in sport techno bottom of the league after the loss.

because. cooling into the weekend mommy's team only their fourth victory of the season should be. getting things started against it see tom with nine minutes gone the international left all alone to pick a spot for. the inside story was then double right before the break quick feet from kabul oh yeah. i can the tomsk science defense calls wide open to. the final score. in the days of final game. many games for the four time african player of the year equalizing. his first home game and. before. that the winner right before the.

fourth and the table. one more game before week twenty three is. home to. the evening to hold. for five. now just to too much for john for consideration in the english premier league on sunday the first of which finishing with west brom left the celebrate their first win of the season in their first victory at the expense of new boys. former. points for the west side. block burned both the. craven cottage. ok let's move to the rugby world cup where africa have gotten off to a winning start in new zealand but only just the springboks beating wales by the minimum of margins in their fixture the boks getting off to

a flyer in wellington from steyn the pummeling his. wait for a try early as the third minute. that's dogood well she didn't left up deter them too much going in at the break ten six. after good work from the pit of this man james. and warren gatland men from the seize the initiative in the second half to be followed so touching down to get world six and lead but south africa aren't world champions for nothing francoise who guard slicing through your free site second try on sixty five minutes the box seven being sixteen up and that's how it would finish after huet missed penalties and minutes after that south africa when it's the steam off their. australia showed why they are second favorites for the tournament before the bettering it by twenty six points wallabies fly half quade cooper starting things off with

a nineteenth minute penalty. for them becoming one of four different history in pearce across the tri line making it sixteen six while i side center digby on a another exclusive after to see thirty two six the final score a possible pool table topping encounter with arlene no weights on saturday for the twice world cup champions. they irish themselves taking care all of the u.s. eagles in between those games but only after a tough eighty minutes in new plymouth running in two tries for are you in about one kick off their campaign on thursday against the u.s. . to the european basketball championships to russia are continuing to do everything right on the hardwood david plotz menno on beaten after seven games following victory over two thousand and five winners greece they gained close half of the greeks much russia shot for shot however the russians were up by eight to

start the final quarter mainly to some superb shooting from two. the famous golf eighty three sixty seven how the second run group stage clash but eventually ends. who have not lost since their opener are up next for russia on monday. ok that brings us to formula one and sebastian vettel second straight drivers' title appears all but imminent with six races to go the overall leader once again dominating the competition finishing almost ten seconds ahead of mcclaren rival jenson button. it was ferrari's fernando long's will who initially ruled into the lead but german vettel regained kept his number one position after about his red bull teammate more webber was one of eight drivers to retire russian vitaly petrov another so it's vettel who's just finished on top again his eighth win from thirteen races amazingly this season will second with a long taking the last step on the podium vettel is lead in the standings no rises

to one hundred and twelve points over a long. stay with. her and benefitted from team it must see love fall a slowing down under team orders to win the rally of australia the finn taking his second win of the season with his competitors relegated to second place overall fifteen points behind seven time day fending. with three minutes to go. me because my rough ride this is a crush is during particularly challenging stretch of terrain but it is herman who takes the win this fight for team it right fellas approach weekend off work where he won nine special stages peter so bird was third centromere. and finally the modern pentathlon world championships kicked off in moscow ukraine's victoria tara shook securing individual gold and the russian couple while

team russia didn't finish the opening day empty handed either. reports. four out of seven russian women qualified for the finals of the modern pentathlon world championship in moscow and judging from their opening performance it seems one of them might even get it placed on the podium you have a good fish nico must start of the second event with the best results from earlier fencing tournaments while her team partner you know who to ask you know wasn't third this woman competition so both women relinquish their leading roles with nicola dropping to fourth and her asking are all the way down to thirteenth. in the third events which is show jumping. and her horse made only one mistake and climbed up to third place going into the final phase which is running and shooting at that point she was the only russian left with a chance to claim a podium spots as her other teammates slipped away below thirty.

the combined events which is a little similar to biathlon where athletes run a three thousand meter distance stopping to shoot it's our gets separated the cool headed from the rest though the russians result wasn't enough to win an individual medal the fourth place finish still earned it you have. a place on russia's olympic team despite the fact that you've become a poster to personal best results and fans since women still can win the bronze this shows that women can tough them is very competitive now and to win a tournament an athlete must out to himself the tournaments will continue over the next few days with the men's women's and make steam relays still to come as well as the men's individual final. cost for of r.t. moscow that is all the sport for this hour but if you'd like to check out some more why not go on tour you tube and indeed facebook pages where you'll be kept busy for

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