stick austerity cuts out at twenty five thousand people took to the streets of greece's second largest city because a lot of projects demonstrators threw bottles and stones at riot police who pushed them with tear gas and flash bombs many public sector employees face massive pay cuts and the struggle to make ends meet work is a furious as they believe they're now paying for reckless behavior by greed and european banks the reach and their country's political elite and economic analyst peter gold believes that the eurozone financial system a collapse of the near future. may indeed be getting if not too late and certainly very late in the day in order to institute a financial government for europe the system could collapse before it is politically possible to put these sorts of measures in place but at the same time although parliaments if you like don't want europe to collapse there is a growing feeling both within parliaments and also amongst the people who elected parliaments and that's certainly true of germany the most pro european all of the

of all the countries so there is a certain impatience away in up is it really worth giving up sovereignty and b. possibly a lot of money in order to save a system that was fully designed right from the beginning it is certainly a question that parliaments are going to be putting to each other over the next coming months ukraine has been a major transit route for russian gas into you're into europe but now it's losing its key bargaining chip in europe and asia infrastructure but you know pollution has now launched the north stream gas pipeline offering a new route bypassing its neighbor which has been out of the center of disputes blocking supplies to europe in recent years. w. . ukraine is a longstanding part of any transit country is always tempted to use its exclusive status as a transit state now ukraine loses privilege i believe in relations to an ever more

civilized free market partnership. but then all stream pipeline travels directly from russia to europe bypassing ukraine its role as a transit state has been fractures in recent years resulting in disputes between moscow and kiev ukraine struggling to pay for the count of the previously agreed quite even threatening to take the shooter course however the country's prime minister promised to stick to the current agreement until a new deal is signed the united kingdom may not be so united soon with plans for a referendum on independence for scotland after the scottish national party is the top clearly one of actions where they didn't do well with parliament in edinburgh earlier this year so the movement for welsh independence is not following suit with growing calls to grateful ministers of all lore and it explores the small nations on bush. welcome to wales part of the u.k. and a proud nation with its own language and customs and the latest voice to call for

independence applied comrie which means the party of wales has always argued the country could be better off without the u.k. and it seems increasing numbers are starting to see their point of view our economy . from an interest in priorities of the. before and independent would be able to chart a different course. priorities wales is a long way from declaring independence but it's no longer just a pipe dream people here voted overwhelmingly earlier this year in favor of handing the welsh assembly full law making powers that was considered a turning point in welsh nationhood and plights couldn't read the party of wales have undoubtedly taken heart from the surprise victory of the scottish national party that victory in may gave the s.n.p. an outright majority in the scottish parliament which has many powers devolved from westminster the party's promise to hold

a scotland wide referendum on whether to declare independence according to applied comrie that marks the turning of the tide for a unified u.k. people who i believe are beginning to to use the word independence in in a welsh context which they say they wouldn't have jennifer hughes and i started beating her lips i think the people in wales are going to see that when scotland becomes independent the next logical step is for will be coming to penzance to of course separatism is nothing new to the british isles and the thousands of victims of the troubles in northern ireland are testament to how high feelings can run both in the present day and for centuries past while national sentiment may not be a new phenomenon the reasons for it have changed over the years and in these. current turbulent economic times money talks scotland has oil and gas but while wales was

a proud coal producing nation its mines are now closed and it's got some of the highest unemployment levels in the u.k. because of that the older generation is reserved when it comes to independence but young people are filled with national fervor for them independence is less about money and more about nationhood and identity wales needs to be independent because it is a great country and we do we do and of like an ageing has already patriotic i think of more patriotic than england we have a lot of culture there we shouldn't go to seem to be better here at the moment but you can get free prescriptions. education seems to be a bit better plight comrie says it's going to build on that support providing not just emotional reasons why whales should be independent but concrete economic reasons too and it says wales does have resources particularly land and sea for green energy if the scots vote for independence wales might not be far behind nor

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which writer knew about the song from months to. come. and again this is are she coming to life from moscow the headline. american rocks a decade since the tragedy of nine eleven which united a nation but brought about two of the bloodiest was of the twenty first century. government which within the age of by invaded by the who was shortly after that transfer to be relentless taliban had staged in another deadly suicide bombing and there's also the discovers that most of the incidents don't even know why their country was ever applied by foreign troops. rather than mornington also one of its

top forty teams of locomotive get us out of every plane crash on a bridge about pride game of the season the tragedy on this board with ceremonies against love another country in which all fled and training stopped in a disaster. was president over the world community not to take sides in a serious a negotiation the only way to peace and the arab league has announced that the mosque has agreed to open a dialogue with the opposition to bring the bonds to about. the decade that followed the nine eleven attacks was marred by wars fought under the flag of ridding the world of terrorists and lawrence wilkerson up for u.s. official in george w. bush's administration told us he that america things that hold and challenge go place in the world and abuses the power it no longer hide. after nine eleven america did not just go after those who perpetrated that tragic

vicious attack it only showed a campaign on nations that had nothing to do with nine eleven we're talking about iraq where hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians have died since two thousand and three america's been in constant war since nine eleven in different countries are we talking about one of the most profound overreactions in military history to talk about that i'm joined by colonel lawrence wilkerson whose service call in powell chief of staff colin powell secretary of state under george w. bush colonel wilkerson thank you so much for joining me thanks for having me more than six thousand american servicemen and die in the last decade of war spawned by the nine eleven attack. tragedy worth remembering and knowing no doubt but why in all of those speeches delivered by american officials i never hear about hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians gadd in the wars waged by the united states and other countries like iraq as

a collective entity we seem to think were exceptional or and so exceptional that we don't have to think about other people or as i said that's a position you can maintain as long as you are as powerful as we were powerful was thrown in each day post world war two but we're no longer there powerful in our powerful recedes even as we speak here today some of the people who were at the helm back then are now writing books saying everything they big was right including guantanamo including everything else i'm talking about big cheney first of all writes president george w. bush and at the same time they're all blaming each other for something why all this confusion and should one be worried about the general picture that's being created at the last decade of war because they're all trying to blame each other and trying to get out of some of the blame and yes we should be. why are they trying to blame each other once let's face a factor for a moment that most americans don't even think about. nine eleven happened when george w. bush and dick cheney's what. they allowed the greatest killing of americans on

american territory since florida. a lot of their rhetoric and aggressive actions post nine eleven was to hide that fact and also to keep it from happening again because if it had happened again they probably would have been impeached on the spot thrown out of office so we spent four trillion dollars to counter an attack by bin laden's a watery that cost maybe half a million that's not very cost effective that's really bad it's bad business so you have to understand that first of all about the bush cheney administration the second thing you understand i think is that we have made a cottage industry if not a much more than a cottage industry out of the what my former boss colin powell is garba terrorist industrial complex lots of people are making lots of money off of this so-called global war on terror you're saying that you had lots of doubts about building this case for war in iraq was impossible at some point. to stand up and say no we have

doubts we're not writing that's where we're out of it we all did key points in the preparation of cold tiles presentation on some of those occasions george tenet and his deputy john mclaughlin said ok ok will this roll that out of the cia head of the cia and the director of central intelligence at the time. will throw that out and they threw it out the real essence of that presentation and they preserved they being george tenet and john mclaughlin and i think under some strong influence from the vice president's office they preserved and that was the mobile biological laboratories that was the active nuclear program as symbolized by the aluminum tubes and it was the existing chemical stocks and. nachum is hard connections between al qaida and baghdad those were the real faults of the ads in that briefing that george tenet and john mclaughlin the representatives of not just the u.s.

intelligence community but of israel finance britain jordan and a host of others who were feeding intelligence and to us. that's what they said was sacrosanct they said that is the case and that is what saddam hussein is doing only later did we learn that even those elements of his presentation were composed of half truths false words even and i think today after doing more research outright lies and lies created in the defense department under undersecretary of defense for policy doug feith and his special iraqi lie and lies created in the vice president lie in your opinion because i wanted for the same reason that in summer of two thousand and two i had discovered that i would be emphasis on enhanced interrogation techniques changed suddenly from being to try and find out if another attack were coming after all a lot of time expired for another attack or a coming it would have come. in the summer of two thousand and two and shifted

suddenly to enhanced interrogation in order to find out if baghdad had contacts with al qaida so we were actually portraying people not under the so-called smoking gun or argument that we might have another attack so it was justified we were people so we could attack iraq and convince the american people we should do so that's how drastic it got now ask me why they want to go with war with iraq and i'll give you a half a dozen answers if it's douglas feith it's protection of israel if it's paul wolfowitz the deputy secretary of defense it's a little bit of israel it's a little bit of oil and it's a little bit of bringing peace and democracy and freedom for the middle east if it's george bush it's who i fear the nexus between al qaida and baghdad which cheney had convinced him of i'm sure george tenet had convinced him of it george tenet didn't think there was that big a nexus. with dick cheney i think it was all over iraq right now is sitting on

probably two hundred billion barrels maybe three hundred billion barrels that's a rat's own oil report that surpasses. do you reckon if iraq is sitting on three hundred billion barrels of oil if that turns out to be true it will be more than saudi arabia now you know why dick cheney went to war over it also was the low hanging fruit north korea was far more dangerous but too difficult a hundred thousand casualties were predicted by the pentagon on both sides seoul would be destroyed iran was too difficult seventy million people not fractured like the iraqis and the sunni and shia christian and other so the low hanging fruit was a rock just used a moment into with nine eleven they use the moment and in the wake of nine eleven to divert from afghanistan our real target should have been our real target and go to iraq that's exactly what they do you said you would testify if they put someone like dick cheney on trial and our what we can accuse them off i think he's already

done it no one needs to accuse him of anything he has admitted publicly it is on billy-o. to that he condoned waterboarding but he would still waterboard then he does not believe waterboarding is torture waterboarding is torture there is a ipso facto case remains guilty but they're saying they did it in the best interest of their country it seems to be the ultimate reasoning which can't be confronted what would you say to that i say that the him never justifies the means . and the question is does the lesser evil ever justify itself because it prevents a greater evil there are some real problems with that argument logical problems as well as philosophical and what i would call value laden problems first is you can never know a hypothetical you never know if your lesser evil action actually prevented the greater evil big cheney spends hours on television and elsewhere and in this book

trying to say that his actions prevented a greater evil another attack on the united states and so forth well that's his interpretation of my interpretation of the bureaucracy which is probably far better than his because i was buried in it i heard people talking about it every day so bottom line is i know what dick cheney doesn't know because he was in the ivory palace and he can't know horse soldiers surrounded cheney the people who surrounded cheney or david addington and john hannah and scooter libby and they killed the cheney what dick cheney wants to hear george tenet told dick cheney what cheney wanted to hear oh yes it's working mr vice president we're getting great information and we're stopping terrorist attacks that is broader book they didn't stop anything through inherent in the hanssen interrogation techniques and i have that from some of the most respected people in the have and the intelligence committee so i can't thought big cheney for not knowing the truth because he couldn't know the truth he's trapped he's trapped in his own military but the truth

is the methods don't work and they rebound to your discredit and they recruit as you said for your enemy dick cheney is asked what would happen if an american were captured in iraq and what would happen if they waterboarding him because they thought he was a threat to the state of iraq and so he just skirted around the question what he really said was if you listen closely americans are better than anybody else in the world. americans shouldn't be waterboarding but anybody else we can waterboard especially if we're americans doing it that's essentially what dick cheney said now here's the kicker about forty percent of america agrees with you poll you look at the polls that have been done about forty percent of america at any given time they think that americans have the right to torture other people and other people don't have the rights to torture americans for various reasons and most of and think it's that way because we have a bigger gun that's why they think we can get away with it and do it because we

have a bigger gun that's why i say the reckoning is coming the reckoning when we are just another country in the world and that day is coming and may not come in my lifetime but unfortunately i think it's coming in my children and my grandchildren's lifetime and this is going to be a hard time for washington because we no longer are going to have the money were no are going to have the economic might we're no longer going to have the military might and so forth to say to the world we can torture you but you can't torture us many say that america's sponsor when i lie from was one of the most profound overreactions of military history when you agree with that i think initially it was proportional it was rational it was fairly well supported in the international community and it was sadness that yes the initial reaction what we should have done was gone to afghanistan as we did or did what we did about six months right or said

ok here's your government karzai you've got it go ahead and run your country as best you can we'll give you economic and financial support from a far we're going home oh by the way footnote if you entertain carers in this country again we'll come back and do it again in what way could that over we actually backfire. i think it already has and this is a. change really that's happened since world war two it's been creeping up on us and now with libya it's here we have a an executive power that is beyond any check by the people by the congress or by the courts for war we can go to war to drop of a coin it matters not that the obama administration and i have to say i voted for president obama it matters not that they have protested rather futile and he obviously really that they weren't involved in hostilities that the war powers act

was not relevant and so forth it certainly was any time you kill people for state purposes the war powers act is relevant and the constitution is relevant we've reached a point now where the president the united states can kill people for state purposes any time he or she feels a need james madison said very eloquently when you come to combine the power to initiate war with the power to execute it you have achieved tyranny that is a very profoundly worrying situation in this that's happened in this country.

american marks in decades of the tragedy of nine eleven which united nations brought about two of the bloodiest wars of the twenty first century. in afghanistan which was invaded by the two us shortly after that atrocity the relentless kind of out of state in another deadly suicide bombings and also just probably most are going for billions of dollars even know why their country was a little complied but for intrudes. russia has been mourning the loss of one of its talk hockey teams a locomotive gas cloud in a plane crash agree to a close game of the season the tragedy has shown this through to its ceremonies and get a lot of other countries which will play as a training stop a disaster. on russia's president calls on the world community not to take sides in

syria's say geostationary the only way to peace the arab league has announced that damascus has agreed to open dialogue with the opposition to bring the violence to a close. less than a quarter of an hour in the meantime units here at this point. great to have you with us this is sports today plenty ahead over the next ten minutes or so including all this. moving on alt sports like most schools stretched their unbeaten record to eight games in the russian premier league with victory over the car. pitched battle reeling rugby world cup champions south africa aged wales in their opening clash of this year's campaign. time give me five and talk loan world finals kick off in moscow with the home side earning

a podium spot auntie. let's get going with football where spartak moscow is on beaten run since june in the russian premier league has been extended for another week a couple sides meeting with the first of sunday's four games only one goal coming on a dreary day and perm archon zuba have the chance to alter this school board midway through the second half but miscued his effort when really he should have at least forced a save the bones literally soaking in the experience when nicholas pereira did break the deadlock with a pinpoint free kick five minutes from time not strike from the origin time enough for the muscovites to take all three points. the league's other sports fitz meanwhile saw there was continued no chip goings on to get our stuff. off the opportunity to open from the start thirty eight minutes and although the former russian international beat the keeper he couldn't beat the post both teams

with trouble executing him deep creating chances on till the pitch burst and from fear of the other home to be three minutes in sports like no bottom of the league after the loss. is it because crew who had been going into the weekend managed to clean only their fourth victory of the season should get the rank getting things started against it see tom with nine minutes gone the television international left all alone to pick a spot for one nil those side story was then doubled right before the break which beat from kabul probably. to again the top sides defense corps wide open to milk for the final step. in the days the final game some of his second goal in as many games for the four time african player of the year equalizing mothers against his first home game and. before another world

star carlist netted the winner right before the hour mark that means move up to fourth and stable. monday see one more game before week twenty three is wrapped up at home to the crusted or the chechen side even to hold recent run of form with. four five it's. just too much for john for consideration in the english premier league on sunday the first of which finishing with west brom left the celebrate their first win of the season and east naming their first victory at the expense of new boys. former. peter odemwingie netting just three minutes into the season maximum points for the west midlands side phone on block burden is both winless playing are the one one draw craven cottage. ok let's move to the rugby world cup we're holding

africa have gotten off to a winning start in new zealand but only just the springboks beating wales by the minimum of margins in their two d. fixture the boks getting off to a flyer in wellington from steyn the man pummeling his. we were for a try i was early as the third minute. dogood well she didn't let up deter them too much going in at the break ten six. after good work from the pit of this man james who and warren gatland probably seize the initiative in the second half to be followed so touching to get sixty leads but south africa aren't world champions for nothing france roy who guard slicing through your second try on sixty five minutes the box seven being sixteen up and that's how it would finish after he missed penalties minutes off the bat so tough to win it. all

for. australia showed why they are second favorites for the tournaments before that bettering it by twenty six points wallabies fly half quade cooper starting things off of the nineteenth minute penalty. cooper then becoming one of four different history in fierce across the tri lying about making it sixteen six while i sighed center to greet you on a another exclusive after to see thirty two six the final score a possible pool see table talking encounter with arlene no weights on saturday for the twice world cup champions. the irish themselves taking care of the us eagles in between those games but only after a tough eighty minutes in new plymouth saw me go running into tries for hours in that one rushing kick off the campaign on thursday i can't be us. to the european basketball championships for russia are continuing to do everything right on not.