in officials. with civil conflict sweeping through north africa and the middle east there is a real worry that the masses of weapons involved could fall into the wrong hands next thirty years from a former un expert on how serious the flow of guns is and what is being done about it. with all the talk about diplomacy and humanity the power of the gun still remains the primary means of solving international conflicts to discuss the current state of arms trade and arms trafficking then our joined by the former u.n. expert on those issues brian johnson thomas thank you very much sir for being with us today let's start with libya am in the beginning of the uprising of the revolution whatever you call it there were concerns that those weapons may fall into the hands of terrorists has already happened in your view well of course it has because it's easier for guns through leaving arsenal once you get them back

it's about to have recalled the most of the guns that were looted albania in the nine hundred ninety just still missing i'm a turnip occasionally in the hands of criminals as much as in the hands of terrorists. start off by being illegally made and legally sold but at some point the guns they're called to for use and to be diverted in the case of libya the concerns as you have it's a lot of the rebels were until fairly recently also we go there is being in league with al qaida in some cases so there's some orders to what they might do with them that is you know going to say she called a call come to the market which would is always taking an interest in what happens in libya and once you get support for the revolution of any sort then you turn to the control of some of the individuals within it now prior to the uprising russia was one of the main suppliers of happens to libya. but as far as i know it was not the only one and some of the countries that are now waging a campaign

a military campaign against colonel gaddafi are also supplying weapons to his regime quite openly yes because it's interesting isn't it that if you look at the the moral record to the west to the east and just not will for the good we've seen to intervene in. iraq and libya because they've got something we want i don't see anyone having any great desire to go and invade syria and dispersed with president thought so maybe he's got nothing nobody wants you know so i think that's where real politic comes into play but yes there was a decision taken for whatever reason to support the libyan uprising even though the same countries did go to the security council and get a resolution which in fact imposed an arms about you they then went a long long way beyond those terms of reference you could argue the bombing campaign itself was pushing the envelope so what contraception he actually talking about apart from russia who was supplying weapons to. i think most countries not

most many countries as i mean i know for example of a shipment off pistols from bereft who were listening because it went through molds and they made a mistake in the paperwork and it was worth nine million euros and it got declared as nineteen million euros so there was a huge sort of particular interest but they were described i think a sporting weapons what you will sport you do with a pistol but anyway so we know even the italians have been involved certainly the british have sold military systems i didn't know whether it was weapons as such and they were sold radar and this kind of thing high tech kits to the regime so yes there's been a whole range of supplies from needing all the usual suspects if you like now also what sort of want to just be talking about and how dangerous it is in your perspective the program with the arms trade willed why does it every year we make more guns that are destroyed so every year the total number of weapons on the

planet is increasing. quite significantly i'm right you are think for probably something like ten times more guns invade the north destroyed every year because united nations i think asians and culprits try and get guns out of circulation by buybacks by various programs but they're not defined by the poet who also makes comes out i will always been struck by how cheap guns are to make them so so now one thing i noticed when i was in the lead bit in march and the ghaziabad. gun sort of become they seem very fancy i don't for the young man so it's almost like having an ipod fundamental teenager and every young person wants to have it his own kalashnikov and i wondering whether you can really talk about any serious five against the arms trafficking when you have a cultural for young people really thinking that having a kalashnikov is really what makes them cool and she exactly this is

a problem in so i mean there's i was involved some time ago in a sort of the company must have been in the a well known must of the union saying i'm too old to go without the gun which illustrates the problem certainly for a young man i mean one of the problems in opera with the child soldiers with a woman in the house being it's actually more fun to be a soldier with a gun because you couldn't take what you want whether it's food or the woman you just take it because you've got a gun and they haven't and it's awfully hard to get these young men up through the decades of war some to come back into civilian life so it's a real problem i mean there are international efforts to try and establish what you might call a better organization for the arms trade by imposing minimum standards and there is a conference in new york next year to ten years of discussions on and off which will try and organize an arms trade treaty i'm more of the. problems at the moment is that while everyone agrees that almost free treats is

a good idea to have some control of the home straight it's what goes in the city which is crazy with problems there was a famous. bizarre time clergyman called said to ghost a new one said oh god give me chastity but not you know it's going to go up and feel the same way but they need to control the whole story but they don't want to put when it controls all their own on their own business now regardless of what you're saying about get off this track record rather than your support of him and not they have to admit that prior to this uprising lead there was a sort of an island of stability and relatively good live in africa which is a pretty turbulent continent. with everything that is happening there and with all that flood of what cults flowing around what sort of implications it could have for the arab rest of the region it has implications certainly for the magreb because it's least in terms of criminals they tend not to stay within borders so you know if you tease you to organize

a bank robbery in shoot this or in car or on the basis of weapons you get from this turmoil in libya yes i agree with you one of the troubles is that. the only way you could have a society were to go in this game was if you have is if individuals with respect to the route of little so therefore we have to have trust you know police forces there's never enough policemen to control a population by force so we have to be policed by consent. countries which policed by consent generally speaking have less gun crime come for us which about which i'm up so pleased with it it's also true that we have a harsh regime the same thing happens but you tend to find the majority of gun crimes half of not because. people want to hold an illegal weapon because they don't have any trust in someone else looking after them they don't trust the police to the cop to them and that's where the problem starts so

unless the libyan transitional national council can very quickly establish a trusted. impartial independent police pools and the because main cities but to can separately there will be a temptation on people to keep guns for their own defense and the means is a temptation to use a gun for something which you shouldn't be used what sort of measures do you think the libyan authorities daily been authorities go taking on its ear decreases the. percentage of guns but then the population i mean maybe buying them all with their war offering some sort of surrender campaign and find buying guns back is a nicety that she's there's not a good i mean i've been bold and several sort of buy about companies with guns that did not distributed when there was one occasion i was working one in brazzaville and the congo going to go twenty years ago navy and i forget the price but we

were paying seventy five dollars shall we say a gun when the problem was on the other side of the congress you could buy the fifty books so people were actually bringing guns for the country became a sort of business because a business is a rent of them and get the bounty so they've been tried different ways around this by saying well as a community was a time when there was a bit of age if you as a weapon sit on the forest will build you when you both shelter and you post a small stuff like the one that seems to work better in some ways i have to say that the problem of getting weapons at the circulation is much more difficult than people tend to think when in kosovo it just failed totally it was a very very expensive campaign and that was it was embarrassing you'd have everyone look like a look at it like a mini to the end of it it is easier not to get guns out of circulation but to control nomination because i'm going to schmooze happy it's both and you can have more success and there's no point having a gun if you're going to have an issue so many ways so did i mention is the key to controlling lawson's weapons at the common good i have

a notion that the dumb gun is no good to them now i have another question i'm not sure whether you can comment on that but if it's just my personal observation. this uprising began back in march it was primarily driven by they see young people like teenagers or young men in that twenty's who want to the frontlines almost for the fun of it but the pictures right now getting from tripoli so very different sort of travels there is a middle aged man who seem to be a far more professional than their handling alarmists. how did that shift happen i think first of all you know i mean i'm a grandfather so i mean obviously to watch myself growing older men you young men you think you are immortal i think what has happened is the revolution has become let's go to the stage where it looks like being successful when you get the bandwagon effect over the people who are now in civilian clothes or the middle age i would guess this is a good offer somebody they see in the way of the wind is blowing and they've

changed science ok fine i have a question regarding their recent allegations or theories that some countries may be. illegally selling arms to the rebels i know with the french have admitted dropping weapons to some rebel groups i posted separately which is on the face of it's a breach of the security council resolution which one can only deplore. particularly when a permanent member of the security council goes wrong frothing resolution a vote you put i think it's a bit about true but you know real the real world is sometimes not so last place to be in. a british foreign secretary back in the eighteenth century said the ones that britain has no permanent friends when you could and its interests i think that's true of every country is true of russia is true of us through the americans and the french so people will look to their interests. as they seal up the tone but yes it's about thing with the united nations system is not perfect but i work it in

it and for it and i want to work house fightings but by going to specter that nothing else which is the best system we have and i think it's is better he unfortunate with a member state of the security council then ignores the resolutions they voted for us french also told us thank you very much for your time pleasure. some. of the. six.

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thank you marina hello and welcome to the sport let's have a look at our top stories. georgia which proves once again just why he is the world's highest ranked player is bad major trophy of the year with a comprehensive victory over us. in the u.s. open grand finale. face all seeing the downside russia the bulls consonantal hockey league season one that starts. to draw a lot of opening day fixtures. and also in football surprised back at school bond remaining in the standings calling monday's two one victory over terry in girls and. let's begin to flushing meadows when the defeated draw fellow dull to secure his third major wave of the year has been determinating for most of the season extending his incredible run to sixty four wins losing just twice. and for the fourth straight time the men's final was. rains in late monday

it was also a repeat of last year as the side of one then by ralph one was a different story at this time around bone and down managed to break the said in the opening game but that was one of these few highlights and joke of each controlling the game on his way to beating the down their sixth consecutive two men's final meeting this season the first assess were pretty one sided the top seed winning sixteen six four often came back and said however this time thank you and thank you seventy three jock which was back to winning ways in the foresaid opening commanding five one lead with the couple breaks up so it's ones where old finishing off matters week it's not a cool hand when a down the line to claim his fourth career grand slam title of a joke of it becoming the twenty fourth man singles u.s. open champion in front of a sold out arthur ashe arena. you

know it had that. big of the big game here in this sort of face in the past is not going to say. now especially because he is doing better than never but. you know what i thought at home with. knowing that i'm on the way a great match really from the start to the end you know it was that third set i had i was three times break up in that so maybe you know i should not drop my serve in those moments but look. you know. when you play when you play that well you're must enjoy i mean you must be nice bring your smile in your face because you know it's it's all going well it's all going for on your side so. but you're focused you're trying to take one point out of time and. and when it gets old yeah i'm going to have more fun now when i know the matches or. also i was talking the.

day after thursday's initial stop was postponed like i might see if i won't be involved this season after the majority of the team were killed in a plane crash last week there are some presidents as though no stone will be left on. the school to form a glorious. because they were trying to decide the best way to help the families of the deceased players. was a team that was admired not only miroslav above all over the country those who must decide how to resurrect the club which will be the best way to honor its foreign players. and ok chelsea is known as solid as within minutes of silence commemorating the cannot seem scored say sky here gras them want to have had to have been one of the seven games here in moscow but i thought about not reports. this is the toughest time the young league has ever had to live through the cage and through this four season in dead silence.

players remembered in so more tribute to their friends that look a mighty few are slowly killed in a plane crash last wednesday and brief oleksandr led forth to survive in hospital but passed away on monday morning. it was sisko knew gruff who opened the season in the russian capital. the army men led by their new coach should get off to a first and furious start. just two minutes into the game. produced a muscle piece move to open the scoring one nil. you grew up pushed forward with some good chances to level but it was the host who scored again. questioning here

to give cisco a two nil lead seconds from the first intermission cisco didn't lose in their grip in the second period sergei chirac of netting the third late in the powerplay three nil is certainly looking like a wipe out for your grub. however the visitors didn't give up a couple of ball play gill's brought them back into the game three two however it wasn't enough to change the outcome and cis custer the new season with a win. with both sides clearly playing in the name of their brothers in hockey will never touch the ice again. sunda thoughts to them all the time no thinking about it. every day and we will miss them for the rest of our lives for the best way to go on our own two or to do

it so it's a to enjoy the game especially when the change of our trip is stephanus so rather than a minor i know the way to feed the trout about the game love the game and love to play to love every single day of eternity in a way i can honor and memory so it's at least to be. proud of what i'm doing and enjoy the game as much as he does and there he did and. the. rest of us to go on tour and. we will try to get. robert virginia on our t.v. now skill. and six more games have been blazing going to be champion salvati lives victory and they look at my c.v. copy of feinstein came from three goals down to play me five three win over law school regions long dr and middle school needed the shootout to decide the winner

on super star school three one at home and the better also scored three times against. elsewhere it's nama easily defeated of on guard in minsk and finally moved over but you've got warrants claim the full two away win against slovakia's left pool so game by second with a double in that one. over to russian football now where week twenty three are up top on monday with a sole match of the. terek to walk away in the chechen capital assume the shower and open for the visitors twenty eight minutes into lurching from the spot after a foul in the box against would just love or need the changing team level matters who minutes after that those i mean i soon got off. with his hat or following across from the right hand side. after the break chara struck the second in the fifty third minute to seal the final result as he made most of the defenders mistake there it was trial as ninth girl most of the season and eight in the table

. now russia have retired from the beach football world cup with a very welcome visitor in tell the trophy side beating nines i will champions brazil for their first ever global crown on sunday the team touching down the most is the mindset of on mondays when c eight was the stomping scoring about them not on the winning day brazil went into the final aiming for their fair straight title but had blazed the trail throughout that so many other ideas shushan held himself to have tripped while very skinny was a wrong between the posts on the way to a story victory. those that ask of them a little every time we've gone to the world cups try or did this we've stumbled in one point or another however we kept working in correcting those mistakes so this is our hard work pays off in the ultimate way. physiatrist added to basketball and the european championships in lithuania now where russia have kept one hundred

percent track of thanks to a win over macedonia and then lost a group stage game sixty three to sixty one the final score their russia captain said game morning as three points against them in their own way and where the balls are but david plotz matt have to get all their previous victories now as the absence of a knockout stages at russia place the course twaddles on says. that's it for now you can find some of those stories and more it's here to buy which is r t sports news marina we'll update you on the main news right after the well with. the world. bringing you the latest in science and technology from around the world . we've got the future covered.

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