next we put the spotlight on a key figure and the yeltsin administration has now had of the russian national technology corp we ask about the secret of a successful innovation economy. and welcome to spotlight the interview. i am. and my guest on the show today is. over the last few years russia has invested billions of dollars into the technology something invisible something very small but something that's considered to be a very promising take nanotechnology is an industry that's said to be bringing out the oil and gas are. the twenty first century high tech.

but many people say that it's a waste of taxpayers' money since you can buy anything that. supermarkets so is. something that will help modernize. the man who is and the tele. the head of the russian corporation dealing with than a. bunch of years ago then present for them to putin but not to college is a scientific study of the highest priority since then dozens of projects have to top. ten billion dollars of by the state of private investment to coordinated force of the. corporation that was created its c.e.o. is one of the most experienced russian managers who was part of a. market economy in the post soviet russia twenty years later he's making the now attacking busman's work.

thank you very much for being with us first of all the news that. the recently launched. a new production line in st petersburg where it will be producing some nano products some ceramic to metal ceramics and things like that what was specifically going to produce something which is the most important part of any cutting instruments of the i would say cutting the blade absolutely which is a little face with the marks and. all the marks and parameters. make that a something which may increase all of those parameters this was a partner who is the very will. scientist with a good technology experience to develop this technology. we. know if we accept this ideas and we invest in developing those businesses just

a couple of weeks ago the start of the commercial production of nanuk aramic instruments and the details for machinery that when you we're talking about blade you use admission machinery is it going to be like for blodget machine like drilling or something or like surgery for example yeah actually the exact of the land we're speaking of both then will produce blades they produce. cutting instruments like drills and things like the. you first begin to show the blades develop in these special technology which based on the idea or the quartering on the blades is something which may increase the temperature and increase the pressure which was accepted by the blades. the world economy today is facing big problems many say it's entering a period of crisis or stagnation or whatever and economists i'm sorry say that

future economic growth may be based only on new technologies what kind of technologies from your point of view are these. knowledge is that can lead to kind of out of stagnation and there's no no one of these technologies or should it's a point of great discussion. the discussion of both the big waves. in the fall of the theory of because if knowledge of go waifs as a russian scientist can but i think. there are number of scientists all over the world who are based on his ideas developed in the beginning of the last century they developed the stages theory of knowledge of go and according to this theory the station number five we should go now that something which is based on telecommunication on computer or on. silicon devices and the next station that something which may be based on knowledge there is no exact.

arguments because known technology or that something which is spirit intersect or all so that something which you may apply in the machinery in pharmaceutical in basic materials or in no fine to mco products in the medical equipment the area of wide spectrum or with smart church lists materials much more strength in. future in economic terms. today to be frank it is the gadgets it's not yet a big industry it's a gadget is all you disagree with does it well i am wrong but to disagree with you because you first begin to both speaking about knowledge or we mean something which we may get today in the market you will be right but if we will get something which is on the stage show the proof of concept or even on the

stage your proof or product may find something which may fundamental change this small budget but which may change the huge industry let me give you just one example. not a composite materials but something which has now become the part of the industrial technology all over the world where they start to be accepted mainly in space. the next stage they are applied in production if you will take the. boy in and so on so. you will know that there is about twelve percent of mana competent materials inside this board. which is doable and that there are more than fifty two percent of the materials and that's understandable because the weight. that's absolutely critical in the you if you're safe kewl weight it's strongly important

space number one aircraft number two the next stage this may be ship building next h. maybe of the railway bogans the next stage may be the car production and we have now a number of the it will name car producer who established the program to utilize them on a composite materials but this is the way when something which is started on the very small space shuttle this is something good why then why at least i have hope that that that a dreamliner will out thirty kilometers instead of twenty four that's one option another option will fly foster the thought option it will take instead of two hundred fifty passengers of it will take three hundred fifty passengers so if you have this materials in the you are a constructor engineer you are able to convert that into the into the speed into

the efficiency into the in the just saving so what they were but bigger on there's the new material this is russia today have the potential to develop such breakthrough technology that can that can help the country make to and from from from from rule material type economy to two high tech one. i believe that we are. thank you. pathing three closer call stage this question station number one noise can no ship. station number two maybe there is some think. station number three everybody knows it so my understanding is now we're coming from the station number one into the station number two is following here the country is falling is that your wife. number three of what is very important what we find myself in this process i find

a normal sources enormous resources resources from tom of the r. and d. support resources and to all of the skilled people resources into a more the technological bigger and it's not moving more school we're starting the project for producing. policy to call in the small be in the siberia in one of the districts of the region and immediately find skilled people. took more dickel experience and are in to support and will produce two hundred and six hundred or four policy to go on in this region and that's typical so wherever will start new businesses some of the russia able to find resources which is already existing so that the country who has this resources. mr shaath the communist leader of soviets russia once said we will overcome america then mr gorbachev also said and you remember we should go further we should develop technologies now

mr putin was more modest remember he said that we should reach the level of portugal like catch up with europe but these slogans are introduced but we're still as you said. on the moving following i still level what what's the problem when will or should a breakthrough happen. as all of us know soviet union economy. was able to produce some great scientific results like the space program. nuclear program built. bubble military high tech military here ok yeah aircraft yeah. but if you will remind yourself of some kind of the technology that humans in the soviet union quantum of which was which may be applied for the ordinary people concealed out of nothing which the t d t v were a car sore radio or anything that sort of do nothing so in the soviet union there

what does it mean it mean that there was a some kind of big scientific technological boudreaux by the quantum itself could not produce which may be consumed by the ordinary people state meet something like of the space shuttle space. rocket it can be produced but not for the order of people but there was a reserve there was resources but there were no demand. next to the market the quantum in which is based on the democracy so everybody able to go to the shop and to buy a computer unfortunately there will be no computer but the demand is existing and i believe there at the next stage of development of the market economy in the russia the which will create this institutional framework for the in the weight of a quantum which will create the eco system for that you know way to requote to me and to make a long shorter look to convience that in the russia in next five ten the us would

have absolutely real chances to create more than twenty traditional century in the way to move the world stoner's says. see the russian corporation for now the technologies national spotlight will be back shortly after the break stay with us. like millions of americans i've lost thousands of dollars in retirement funds and i haven't had as bad as many that's not just about the debt it's about needs to. me man brother.

needed. now. since this is my film i get the last word this financial crisis will not be turned off like a light sleep. welcome back to spotlight on al gore nov and just a reminder that today my guest on the show is on the tony chu bar ice the c.e.o.

of across nano the russian corporation dealing with nanotechnologies with a country so rich natural resources not only oil and gas but water. timber who will whatever do we need to do these side say things i mean i mean why do does the economy need them as far as i know and i know from the newspapers one of your biggest. problems is still introduce high tech to governors like in fargo he reasons this country isn't it true they don't want it. actually there is a way to steal based upon the oil and gas. there's the option which is existing but that's the option which is just. strongly warble to any current of the economic downturns and there's the option which is not.

a ploy option to consume unique resources which ease with the economic social human level existing now and thought that the strategy which will bring crushing to the thought of all so that's why i to answer to a question. can we leave without it yes we've got but that's something which means they do they should my understanding is that what russia needs is not division but in the way and that's the dilemma the limit of degree additional in the ration where we have to make overtures. if you will continue to go this way and we call attention cation russia needs quality education many people are talking that there are problems in russian education even compared to the old soviet system is some participating in developing quality education in this country yes we do and we understand that must. i

cannot say and i'm disagree there is no educational system in russia that's wrong if you compare there are some deficiencies to cheney's with india with brazil in bric countries it's more the war system at the same time definitely it's not the best in the world in this way we need to adjust the skills of employees in our project to what is demise. by the project itself what a what exact style of educational project normal in the moment was the new business project with the educational project to educate skilled people to this project when it was thought to produce in this. region this political immediately simul to know the start of the project to educate team which will be the employee in this project we have interviewed a number of people on sponsored lives russian scientists russian young specialists

work abroad and who want to come back to work and russia but surprisingly money isn't what they need isn't what they're waiting. do you sam how are you somehow interested in the problem of brain drain and what do you think you need to give people to to drag them back to rich. well i believe the money is important but knowing thing it only important the main thing what are the main themes according to our experience the main sink is a real option to implementing your ideas to apply them in the real business process but to give an example we find the team of very young people young scientists who left russia left russia to feel that they've grown from the finish go on when they live to a job when they develop some very very sophisticated technology in good draw

structure to produce play to me to. understand the scientific result they care for is very interesting and i suggest them to come back to invest in this business to build a business in russia based on the ideas which was developed by themselves. the project was successful was started production of the russian. i mean to its limits which is now in the beginning of september in russian shops there's the commercial product in the parameter of the technical parameters of this product is on the level of the best in the war that's on the level of that's on the level of force room and that's an example so when you give the option to implement theoretical and to put them in the real practical business that's something which is even more important than just money i know you would mention the led lamps these bulbs need new production because many people say that you mention consumer products so many

people say that this these. are the first and the only consumer product today that's manufactured with the help of not technology is a true well it's more of a care for some more examples but that's true that more product is not. b. to c. b. to b. b. to b. . but i will you be working on more and more consumer items things that these things can be sold well in local stones in supermarkets i don't see it as a prayer it's something which didn't mind me the. group a group b. group a is important will be is not important to me. if there is a consumer business or consumer ordinary people i would support this business of

soul this way i wouldn't consider it as a priority you recently showed another product the electronic reader you showed it you introduced it to to russian prime minister and you said that this is something that may replace. paper books in russian schools that tell us more about it do you think that this really me become products. that will that will make make or stand a famous among schoolchildren. well the whole goal to become famous or will become official. first i should say about this project of the. fuel a huge respect to those who develop the project the project was developed in cambridge university and up in the company which is located in silicon valley and manufacturing facility in germany but there's the international are based company it was a very we'll based r. and d. support based idea the idea. where the project developed on the idea of

silicon electronics plus to connect one to something which is absolutely new was there to do with no no no that's kind of really this kind of pull something out of the door of the but no doubt about it but that's some kind of the new technological way for electronic and. this is so when you say plastic instead of silicone this means that plastic may be a conductor like a semiconductor whatever side of the plastic may be conductive plastic maybe semiconductor and plastic is something which is based which is a materials you made the whole management technical management of the screen screen was no glass at all on like the additional screen me and i play it all i remember the plastic screen and the plus stick semiconductor which just manage the color in this in this screen. the idea of no

one sitting on the twenty that's something which make if huge implementation not only the plastic not only to the reader which we're pretty we're going to produce so the idea is so great this why it was spun of all of. wonder if you are in a very very complicated negotiation competing with cheney is who who would like to accept this technology in china as a bill fortunately we was able to win this competition and now we're starting. to build huge manufacturing facilities in the russia which will produce of these products second we. we made the request to all partner to two for the product itself to focus the computer itself on the. school consumers school pupil consumers and they did end of the one you experian

men were in for russian regions schoolboys and schoolgirls will start to use this computer instead of what circle paper textbooks and number three was taught to create them out and get center which will develop the technology of the plastic to computers you mentioned that this technology is developed in. lint produced by a plastic logic in california what does that of have to do with it to build you paying manufacturing facility which will which will have the big scale production goes ahead here or in the new thing in the most building the most cool below. which will develop the technology so there's that make more maybe in the new not silicon plastic value of sort of convoy and the only thing that may happen if we speak seriously. there is no exact ons over this eve.

we convince the market will accept it i am a strong believer of the huge option for nor a complete substitution for. developing the silicon plastic electronics and the number of electronic sensors such advice my son does a lot of reading which is strange for a twelve year old today and i try to introduce this reader you know this electronic book which is better than a computer because there is not the light i mean i mean it's but he does like this . he prefers paper pay paper books is this plastic plastic technology any better well the sun it are in or. out of the requirement i should of what are the differences between the normal screen in the screen which we use in our computer into additional plus sickle screen the computer you hear from. the lights are coming to you in this in the reader we don't have to

do that you don't have this reflected light this right into the light like on paper but still is this what this ongoing is about but still his eyes hurt for some reason definitely no no i will look at the root of the same extent which they may be heard by the paper you're already doing it with a lot of the same of the electronic paper sickle paper of the same effect which is more. here fall in less war notable less risky for the pupil of people was an especially for children well that's why. it's something which a must if you're speaking of all the consumers in the school thank you thank you very much mr rice and just a reminder of it my guest on the show today was on the telly head of the not and the so for now from all of us here spotlight will be back with more from stan comments on what's going on in and outside russia until then stay on r.t. and take.

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