profits to ukrainian officials. with civil conflicts weeping through north africa in the middle east there's a real worry that the masses of weapons involved could fall into the wrong hands next on two years from a former u.n. expert on how serious the flow of guns is and what's being done about it. with all the talk about diplomacy and humanity the power of the gun still remains the primary means of solving international conflicts to discuss the current state of arms trade and arms trafficking we're now joined by the former u.n. expert on those issues brian johnson thomas thank you very much sir for being with us today let's start with libya in the beginning of the uprising and the revolution whatever you call it there were concerns that those weapons may fall into the hands of terrorists has already happened in your view well of course it has because it's

easier for guns to leave an arsenal and to get them back it's about to recall the most of the guns that were looted albania in the nine hundred ninety just still missing. in the hands of criminals as much as in the hands of terrorists. start off by being illegally may be sold with at some point the guns that cause the problems. and the case of libya concerns as you know. a lot of the rebels were until fairly recently also regarded as being in the with al qaida in some cases so there are some orders to what they might do with. you know going to say she called a call carriage of the market which is always you take an interest in what happens in libya and once you get support for the revolution of any sort. of some of the individuals within it now prior to the uprising russia was one of the main suppliers of this to libya. but as far as i know it was not the only one and some

of the countries that are now waging a campaign a military campaign against colonel gaddafi are also supplying weapons to his regime quite openly yes because it's interesting isn't it that if you look at the the moral record of the west to me awfully good we seem to him to be. iraq and libya because they've got something we want i don't see anyone having any great desire to go and invade syria and dispose of a president maybe he's got nothing nobody wants you know so i think that's where real politic comes into play but yes there was a decision taken whatever reason to support the libyan uprising even though the same countries did go to the security council and get a resolution which in part imposed an arms about you they then went a long long way beyond those terms of reference you could argue the bombing campaign itself was pushing the envelope so what contraception he actually talking

about apart from russia who was supplying weapons to get out i think most countries most many countries as i mean i know for example a shipment of pistols from beretta in a city because it went through multi they made a mistake in the paperwork but it was worth nine million euros when it is ninety million euros so there was a huge sort of product about it but they were described i think a sporting weapons what you will sport you do with a pistol but anyway so we know even the italians have been involved certainly the british have sold military systems i didn't know whether it was weapons i never sold radar in this kind of thing high tech kits to the regime so yes as we go whole range of supplies from needy all the usual suspects if you like now also what sort of want to just be talking about and how dangerous it is in your perspective the problem with the straight world why does it every year we make more guns that are

destroyed so every year the total number of weapons on the planet is increasing. quite significantly. things that are probably something like ten times more guns are made the not destroyed every year because united nations are like asians and culprits trying to get guns in the circulation by buybacks by various programs but not be followed by the poet who will still make scones but i will always been struck by how cheap to make them so now one thing i noticed when i was in march and the ghaziabad. sort of become the some very fancy item for the young man so it's almost like having an ipod fundamental teenager and every young person wants to have his own kalashnikov i'm now wondering whether you can really talk about any serious fight against arms trafficking when you have a cultural young people really thinking that having a kalashnikov is really what makes them cool and she this is

a problem in so i mean i was in gold some time ago in. sort of the company you know most of them you know and there's a i will know most of the saying i'm too old to go without the gun which in the states the problem certainly for young men i mean one of the problems that are. with the child soldiers with all of them has been it's archly. more fun to be a soldier with a gun because you couldn't take what you want whether it's food or the woman you just take it because you've got a gun and they haven't and it's awfully hard to get these young men up through the decades of war so they're to come back into civilian life so it's a real problem i mean there are international efforts to try and establish what you might call a better organization for the arms trade by imposing minimum standards there is a conference in new york next year after ten years of discussions on and off which will try and organize an arms trade treaty i'm one of the problems at the moment is that while everyone agree that all this trade treaty is

a good idea to have some control of the home straight it's what goes in the treaty which is critical problems there was a famous. bazaar time clergyman called said to go to the new onset of gold give me chastity but not you know it's going to go up and feel the same way but they need to control the whole story but they don't want to put want to control their own on their own business now regardless of what you're saying about get off this track record rather than here in support of him and not they have to admit that prior to this uprising lead there was a sort of an island of stability and relatively good live in africa which is a pretty turbulent continent. everything that is happening there and if all that flood of what kind of flowing around what sort of implications it could have for the arab rest of the region it has implications certainly for the magreb because it's least in terms of criminals they tend not to stay within borders so you know if you tease you to organize

a bank robbery in choosing this over and on the basis of weapons you get from this turmoil in libya yes i agree with you one of the troubles is that. really where you could have a society where the gun is king if you have it if it's good you will respect the rule of law so therefore we have to have trust. you know police forces there's never enough police for them to control a population by force so we have to be policed by consent. countries which policed by consent generally speaking have less gun crime in countries which are about which i'm up so policed but it's also true that we have a harsh regime the same thing happens but you tend to find the majority of gun crimes half a note because. people who want to hold an illegal weapon because they don't have any trust in someone else looking after them they don't trust the police to the

fact to them and that's where the problem starts so and that's the libyan transitional national council can very quickly establish a trusted. impartial independent police force and then because main cities particular intrepidly there will be a temptation of people to keep guns for their own defense and the means is a temptation to use a gun for something which you shouldn't be used what's the matter is do you think believed that that was his daily been authorities could take an audience here decrease the. percentage of guns but then the population i mean maybe buying them out there or offering some sort of fairly surrender campaign or find buying guns back is a city that says there's not a good i mean i've been in bold and several sort of buy about companies but they're not just trying to do it when there's one occasion i was working i want to browse a hole in the congo congo go to twenty years ago and you know and i forget the

price but we were paying seventy five dollars shall we say. well the problems on the other side of the congo river you could buy the fifty books so people were actually bringing guns for the country became a sort of business because a business this is a rental we're going to get the bounty so they then tried different ways around this by saying well as a community as a time when there was a bit of age if you as a weapon sit on the forests we'll be. you when you shelter or you post ational stuff like that so that seems to work better in some ways i have to say that the problem of getting weapons out of circulation is much more difficult people tend to think when in kosovo it just felt totally it was a very very expensive company you know it was it was embarrassing you know i mean everyone looked like a look at it like maybe if you can do it it is easier to get guns of the. nomination because i'm going to sion is happy it's bull and you can have more success and there's no point having a gun if you're going i'm going to so many was sort of i mean this is the key to

controlling lawson's weapons if they can get i mean a shot of the i'm going to is no good to them now i have another question i'm not sure whether you can comment on that by that it's just my personal observation when they surprising began back in march it was primarily driven by base young people like teenagers and young men in that twenty's who went to the frontlines almost for the fun of it but at the pictures right now getting from tripoli so very different sort of probables there is a middle aged man who seem to be a far more proficient in their handling of wireless. how did that shift happen i think first of all you know i mean i'm on the ground for this so i mean. sort of watch myself growing old and when you're young you think you're immortal i think what has happened is the revolution has become let's go to the stage where it looks like being successful when you get the bond but i think it's also the people who are in civilian clothes or the middle aged i would guess this is a good offer somebody in the way of the wind is blowing and they've changed science

fine i have a question regarding their recent allegations or theories that some countries may be. illegally selling arms to. i know the french have admitted dropping weapons to some rebel groups south west of tripoli which is on the face but it's a breach of the security council resolution which one cut only deep hole. particularly when a permanent member of the security council goes wrong crossing a resolution a vote you pull off think it's about about show but you know real the real world is sometimes not so last place to be and. the british foreign secretary back in the team century said that once that britain has no permanent friends and you couldn't interests i think that's true of every country is true of russia is true of us true to americans on the french so people will look to their interests as they see them at the time but yes it's about thing when the united nations system is not perfect

but i work in it and for its and i want to warehouse paintings by going to specter that nothing else which is the best system we have and i think it's better he unfortunate with the member states of the security council then he ignores the resolutions they voted for us. thank you very much pleasure. back in. one thousand miles from the north pole. the. trip to spitzbergen on capella go. twenty years. the world.

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time is the international court of all sides in the libyan civil war to prevent human brian sponheimer nation do the show with live jubilation on one of the down feet of some libyan say the now being accused by those who fought for that freedom . on a time when the u.s. is tightening its fiscal balance a flower saying private jailed see the referee for transco prison as they are accused of longing to expound the american justice system increase the number of the behind columns. ukraine considers the legality of daytraders the contaminates barrier around chernobyl a sign while the biggest name to design stuff tourists visit so we're bound to have allegations made provided on healthy competence to train international it's. called next door the next is from the world of sports with a touch. hello

welcome no watching the sport on t.v. and let's have a look at all top stories this hour mobile drug coverage proves once again just why is the world's highest ranked. windiest major all the season with a comprehensive victory over rafael nadal in the us open final. faceoffs and downside brush the full consonantal hockey league season finally starts with beating you grind one piece out any day fixtures. and the next players gear up for tuesday's champions league opener in cyprus or while the pick of the actual bell will see milan travel to barcelona. and let's begin that flushing meadows new york where nobody defeated rafael nadal to secure his the major win of the year the sub has been dominating for most of the season

extending his incredible run to sixty four wins losing just wise eleven for the force train time the men's final was rain delayed till monday it was also a repeat of last is the side don't want them by ralf on a different story this time around the doll managed to break the serve in the opening game but that was one of these few highlights talk of its control of the game on his way to beating the doll in there or six consecutive two men's final meeting this season. the first two sets were pretty one sided the top seed winning six two six four of them back in the mostly a tie break and winning it seven three djokovic she was back to winning ways in the fourth opening a commanding five one lead with a couple of breaks the twenty four year old finishing off medals with yes another forehand win a down the line to claim his fourth korea grounds and title double djokovic becoming the twenty fourth man singles you. it's open champion in front of

a sold out arthur ashe arena on monday night but. i only had that. because of the behavior here in this sort of face in the past results in a. no pressure because he was doing both and i never but. you know what. i thought of him with. knowing that i'm on the way a great match really from the start to the end even though it was that third set i had i was three times break up in that so maybe you know i should not drop my serve in those moments but look. you know the. you when you play when you play well you're must enjoy i mean you must you must bring your smile in your face because you know it's it's all going well it's all going for on your side so. but you're

focused you're trying to take one point out of time and it's and winning again so yeah i'm going to have more fun now for what you know the matches or. i'll sound saucer meanwhile already celebrating a women's singles title the first grand slam trophy of her korea clinching the silverware the day before djokovic just triumph over another down with a shock win against three time champion syria not well and. now the fourth season got on the way on monday after thursday's initial start was postponed but might save won't be involved this season after the majority of the u.s. killed in a plane crash last week all else is now open a started with a minute of silence commemorating the team meanwhile says sky and you grabbed and went had to have been one of the seven games here in moscow but by now watch the action. this is the toughest time of the young league has ever had to live through the gates and through this four season ends.

players remembered in some way or tribute to their friends that look and what if you are slowly who were killed in a plane crash last wednesday and brave. lad for to survive in hospital but passed away on monday morning. it was sisko and you grudge open the season in the russian capital. there are men led by their new coach. got off to a first and furious start. just two minutes into the game. produced a mussar piece move to open the scoring one nil. you grew up pushed forward with some good chances to level but it was the host who scored again. question in here

to give cisco a two nil it seconds from the first intermission cisco didn't lose in their grip in the second period. of netting the third late in a powerplay three nil is certainly looking like a wipe out for you. however the visitors didn't give up a couple of paul play gill's brought them back into the game three two however it wasn't enough to change the outcome and cis custer the new season with a win. with both sides clearly playing in the name of their brothers in healthy will never touch the ice again. last fall's. close friends in. the. course of. the sun the thoughts of them all the time thinking about it. every day in the sun for us all was the best way to try to. turn toward

a game especially change but instead. of mine i know the way i feel. about the king of the game to play to love every single day of. the way i can on so set against to be. proud of what i'm doing and enjoy the game as much as he said he did and. yes. we will try to. robert virginia r t. there were six more games on monday including defending champion slovakia lives victory in the locomotive cup new four man came from three goals down to claim a five three victory over our land elsewhere tractor and metalworking of a skill needed to shoot out to the side they went out several other scored twice each thrice each other to grab their respective wins in the. defeat of

slovakia as their for profit. and meantime the government will help save fulfill scored fulfill all financial obligations to the families of the players who died in the crash president that example of also explained why the team is expected to play again. you know the next three months will commence it will be playing in the youth hockey league starting from december they will play in the highlands domestic league all the home games will be played on her mind it's a renewed two thousand in europe slab pull the club will join the kitchen again next season will also be guaranteed a player of sports regardless of where they finish in the season but i'm sure it will not need an indulgence it will again become a team of the highest level. football now and the champions league gets underway tonight with a traveling to cyprus to face up well elsewhere barcelona start their title defense against not the european giant ac milan the count no showdown these one of the

opening fixtures in group h. hoping to continue their unbeaten run having not lost in their last town champions league games the catalans only absentees here out the care while milan like several key players with luck they brought him a bitch and your being here among all those sidelined with injuries are some that failed any esther sounds the team's happy to open against their longtime rivals and fellow consonantal content as. the team is happy because we're starting the champions league it will be a very special game to start with on the right food we start the group stage with the goods as a schuster to victory brings and an opportunity to do things the right way will play the game with great concentration and spirit hoping that everything will turn out well. and group chelsea will look to start their champions they complain on the man. with a whole win against germany's biologic years and the blues with a solid home record as well unbeaten in the last twenty three group matches the new

boss apparently hoping to extend that streak. elsewhere the europa league title holders who have various boyish was in charge of before moving to chelsea and st shotgun yes asif porter has the ukrainians in group g. tonight hoping for more glory on the new manager of the thought of pay it up. we start with the hope of doing our best in the champions league we are clearly increasing our quality of play therefore we start with confidence in this stage we believe we can move on to the next stage and go forward this is our main objective . and also in that groups in the face and the dogs boil and as i said earlier elsewhere in group. now and then impact all space small say. group b. and barcelona in milan have minos bought their body savan take thought if a company in group russia second sidings the champions league competition to see how it's

a scam all school will play on wednesday. and let's move to russian football now where week twenty three wrapped up on monday with the sole match of the. terek two one away in the chechen capital i've seen the tower it opened for the visitors twenty minutes same converting from the spot up to a foul in the box on bledisloe week. the chechen team levelled medals for minutes off to. get to the gates with his had a following cross from the right hand side after the break chara struck his second in the fifty third minute though to seal the final result as it made the most of the defenders mistake here this was chara's ninth goal and eighth in the table. and over to basketball finally where the european championships in lithuania russia have kept that one hundred percent record thanks to win over months ago in their in their last group stage game sixty three sixty one the final school their russia

captain said a game or knows three points i gave the russians in their own victory with the david last man have to forget all their previous victory is now as they and seven stages russia place in the quarter finals. and that's it for the moment coming up after this is the weather update state.

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short lived in jubilation they made a wide spread joy of the will of good down in libya some claim they're now being intimidated by the rebel freedom fighters. cashing in on incarceration u.s. private jails are accused of lobbying heavy jail sentences to make more money from prints. and dead saying for tourists ukraine debates whether a ban on the trips to the contaminated area around novel should be lifted and the allegations riding on healthy profits to officials. and your financial health kits russia we find out how bad the infraction is more in business in twenty minutes.