war crimes committed by both the colonel's loyalists and rebels urging the new leadership to restore order and security. we'll be back with another update for you very shortly well as the new leaders struggle to restore security in libya there's growing concern about the massive number of weapons on the streets there already spoke to a former u.n. expert about the challenge of disarming civilians peacefully. with all the talk about diplomacy and humanity the power of the gun still remains the primary means of solving international conflicts to discuss the current state of arms trade and arms trafficking we're now joined by the former u.n. expert on those issues brian johnson thomas thank you very much sir for being with us today let's start with libya and in the beginning of the uprising of the revolution whatever you call it there were concerns that those weapons may fall into the hands of terrorists has already happened in your view well of course it

has because it's easier for guns to leave an arsenal and to get them back it's about to recall the most of the guns that were looted albania in the nine hundred ninety just still missing. in the hands of criminals as much as in the hands of terrorists. start off by being illegally could be sold with at some point the guns the cultural problems and being diverted and the case of libya as you know. a lot of the rebels were until fairly recently also regarded as being in the with al qaida in some cases so there's some more use to what they might do with. you know when i was called to call carriage of the market which is always a secure interest in what happens in libya and once you get support for the revolution of any sort then you turn to the control of some of the individuals within it now prior to the uprising russia was one of the main suppliers of this to

libya. but as far as i know it was not the only one and some of the countries that are now waging a campaign a military campaign against colonel gaddafi are also supplying weapons to his regime quite openly yes because it's interesting isn't it that if you look at the. call to the west to the east and just not awfully good we seem to him to be. iraq and libya because they've got something we want i don't see anyone having any great desire to go and invade syria and this was the president thought so maybe he's got nothing no what he wants so i think that's where the real politic comes into play but yes there was a decision taken whatever reason to support the libyan uprising even though the same countries did go to the security council and get a resolution which in part imposed an arms about you they then went a long long way beyond those terms of reference you could argue the bombing

campaign itself was pushing the envelope so what contraceptive he actually talking about apart from russia who was supplying weapons to all get out i think most countries not most many countries is that i mean i know for example of a shipment of pistols from beretta and it's a thing because it went through multi they made a mistake in the paperwork and it was worth nine million euros but it was nineteen million euros so there was a huge sort of product about it but they were described i think a sporting weapons what you will sport you do with a pistol but anyway so we know even the italians have been involved certainly the british shops sold military systems i don't know whether it was weapons of search and they were sold radar and this kind of thing high tech kits to the regime so yes as we go whole range of supplies from needy all the usual suspects if you know right now also what sort of want to just talking about and how dangerous it is in your perspective the problem with the straight world why does it every year we

make more guns that are destroyed every year the total number of weapons on the planet is increasing. quite significantly i'm not you are i think that are probably something like ten times more guns are made the not destroyed every year because united nations on occasions and culprits try and get guns out of circulation by buybacks by various programs but they're not be fired by the public but everyone still makes guns but i will always been struck by how cheap guns are to make them so now one thing i noticed when i was in march and the ghaziabad. gun sort of because they seem very fancy i don't fall right the young and so it's almost like having an i pod find american teenager and every other person wants to have it his own kalashnikov and i wondering whether you can really talk about any serious fight against arms trafficking when you have

a culture of young people really thinking that having a kalashnikov is really what makes them cool and chic this is a problem in so i mean there's i was in gold some time ago in the. company and it must've been the on the i will know it must of the union saying i'm too old to go without a gun which illustrates the problem certainly for a young man i mean one of the problems that are. with the child soldiers with all of those but you know it's actually more fun to be a soldier with a gun because you couldn't take what you want whether it's food or the woman you just take it because you've got to go to their homes and it's awfully hard to get these young men after a decade of war something to come back into civilian life so it's a real problem i mean there are international efforts to try and establish what you might call a better organization by imposing minimum standards and there is a conference in new york next year after ten years of discussions on and off which will try and organize an arm straight treaty i'm one of the problems at the moment

is that whatever want to agree that almost free treat is a good idea to have some control of the home straight it's what goes in the treaty which is critical problems. there was a famous. bizarre time clergyman called said to ghost a new one sort of people he trusted to you but not you know it's a good many good ones feel the same way but they need to control the whole story but they don't want to put too many controls on their own on their own business now regardless of what you're saying about get off this track record rather than here in support of human are they have to admit that prior to this uprising lead there was a sort of an island of stability and their relatively good live in africa which is a pretty turbulent continent. everything that is happening there and if all that flood of what kind it's flowing around what sort of implications it could have for the arab rest of the region it has implications certainly for the magreb because

it's least in terms of criminals they tend not to stay within borders so you know if you tease you to organize a bank robbery in choosing this or in car on the basis of weapons you get from this turmoil in libya yes i agree with you one of the troubles is that. the only way you could have a society where the gun is king if you have is if it's good you will respect the rule of law so therefore we have to have trust you know police forces there's never enough police for them to control a population by force so we have to be policed by consent. countries which policed by consent generally speaking how less gun crime would come for us which about which i'm up so pleased but it's also true that we have a harsh regime the same thing happens but you tend to find the majority of gun crimes half a note because. people who want to hold an illegal weapon because they don't have

any trust in someone else looking after them they don't trust the police to the power to them and that's where the problem starts so unless the libyan transitional national council can very quickly establish a trusted. impartial independent police force and that because main cities protect yourself from there they will be a temptation on people to keep guns for their own defense when the means is a temptation to use a gun for something which you shouldn't be used what sort of mattress do you think the libyan authorities daily been authorities could take an audience here decreases the. percentage of guns but then the population i mean maybe buying them out there or offering some sort of surrender campaign or find buying guns back is a city that says there's no good i mean i've been bold and several sort of buy but campaigns for guns one hundred now discredited when there was one occasion i was working in one ambrose of a hole and the congo going to go twenty years ago and i forget the price

but we were paying seventy five dollars show me so i put all the problems on the other side of the congo river you could buy the fifty books so people were actually bringing guns for the country became a sort of business because a business this is a rental we're going to get the bounty so they then tried different ways around this by saying well as a community as a time when there was a bit of age if you could as a weapon sit on the forests we'll build you when you shelter or you post a small stuff like that so that seems to work better in some ways i have to say that the problem of getting weapons out of circulation is much more difficult people tend to think when kosovo just failed totally it was a very very expensive campaign and that was it was embarrassing you'd have everyone look like a look at it like maybe if you can do it it is easier not to get guns out of circulation but to control nomination because i'm going to sion is happy it's bulky and you can have more success and there's no point having

a gun if you're going i'm going to show so many was sort of omniscient is the key to controlling lawson's weapons if they can't get out of a notion of the dumb going there is no going to them now i have another question i'm not sure whether you can comment on that by that it's just a lot of personal observation. this uprising began back in march it was primarily driven by they say young people like teenagers and young men in the twenty's who went to the frontlines almost for the fun of it but the pictures we're now getting from tripoli show very different sort of probables there is a middle aged man who seem to be a far more proficient in their handling alarmists. how did that shift happen i think first of all you know i mean on the ground all this i mean. sort of watch myself growing old and when you're young you think you're immortal i think what has happened is the revolution has become let's go to the stage where it looks like being successful when you get the bandwagon of the people who are in civilian

clothes or the middle aged i would guess this is a good officer we've seen the worst of the winds were going to. find i have a question regarding their recent allegations or theories that some countries may be. illegally selling arms to. i know that the french have admitted dropping weapons to some rebel groups south west of tripoli which is on the face but it's a breach of the security council resolution which one cow don't need to pull. particularly when a permanent member of the security council goes wrong crossing a resolution a vote you pull off think it's a very bad show but you know real the real world is sometimes not so last place to be and. the british foreign secretary back in the eighteenth century said once that britain has no permanent friends in the present interests i think that's true of every country is true of russia is true of us that's true to americans on the

french so people will look to their interests as they see them at the time but yes it's about thing with the missing united nations system is not going to work it it's done for it's and i want to work house paintings by going to spend to the nothing else which is the best system we have and i think it's better he unfortunate with the member states of the security council but then he ignores the resolutions they voted for us. thank you very much pleasure. back in. one thousand miles from the north pole. the. trip to spitzbergen on compelled to go. twenty years.

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thanks for joining us and this is sports that we've got plenty ahead in all this. no joke novak djokovic proves once again why he's top of the men's tennis three pitching his third bronstein crown of the season a new york city. on the ice to postpone the hockey league season begins five days after its scheduled kickoff following last week's deadly are crushed in your sleep. and yellow pearls could bun make further inroads into the top half of the russian premier league table with on the way with in chechnya. but let's begin at flushing meadows where novak djokovic chose had a long weekend to remember the serb becoming only the sixth man ever to win three

of the foreground slams on offer in the same year beating rafael nadal in the final of the u.s. open for the fourth straight time the men's final was rain delayed to until monday in new york it was a repeat of last year's decider one then by the dull a different story this time around though the spaniard managing to break djokovic in the opening game but was one of his few highlights to serve maintaining a standing level of quality throughout that her sixth straight season final topsy joke of its taking the open couple of sets six two six four before rafa fall back in the third forcing a tie break to eventually secure the set but djokovic she returned to winning ways in the fourth establishing a commanding five one lead but twenty four year old finishing off managed with the fourth winner down the line to claim his fourth round slam crawlin. six two six four six seven six two on the final score. joker quite simply on top of

this do you. think champion. when you play when you play that well you're must enjoy i mean you must bring your smile in your face because it's all going well as old boy on your side so. you're focused you are trying to take one foot out of time. so. i'm going to have more fun with you know the matches over. here in this sort of racism. now because who's doing better than never but. you know what. i've already. knowing that i'm on the way. some stories are meanwhile already been celebrating her women's singles title that first grand slam trophy of her career clinching silverware on sunday courtesy of

a shop window with three time champion serena with. its back to new a fifth champion's league season gets going tonight one of two sides involved in european football's premier club competition is in eight there in cyprus to face up well that russian visitors favorites to take the win against the team regarded as the middle of the group but they need to ensure that clash having lost their first to miss the game in almost four months off the weekend. will also have to do with. some luck in the cypriot capital the russian international after breaking a bone in his foot. also in the same group porto shakhtar donetsk chelsea will be aiming to get off to a winning start at home to leverkusen. will fancy their chances in the other group the group efflux wide open hosting arsenal. facing more say this time much of the day go on doggedly taking place in group h.

where reigning champions barcelona. to bottle while underdogs victorious pleasant. will be hoping v. aren't just there to make up the numbers in this same group. to the russian game now where week twenty three wrapped up on monday with a single match up the inform on the beating at two on in the chechen capital grozny seen it true re-opening the visitors a kind twenty eight minutes in converting from the spot but it's time to let a judge who is being felt in the area target the level modish for minutes the leader don't off a large too much space to confer at the pin point for. the break but were not to be denied the winner coming from the montreal ray in the fifty third minute a costly miscue from the turke defender the ivorian makes no mistake thus consolidate its spot in the table. rashad maintain their one hundred percent record

of the european championships david blatt side seeing off donia in their last group stage game in the few mania typed in country on the night with russia winning by single boss gets captain money is three pointer making a difference right off the buzzer so it's not to the knockout stages where serbia await the russians in thursday's quarter final. let's turn our attention to the n.f.l. now where brave each turned in an all inspiring performance in monday's opening clash the two time super bowl m.v.p. throwing for four touched on to help his new england patriots see off miami in their first match of the season the teams tied at seven a piece in the second one really got caught finding tight and rob gronkowski the quarterback showing at least signal calling skills in the third as well really changing the play on the line a long way as well for her to get open for it touched on that made it twenty one fourteen the two connected again with brady locked in his own end zone welker tying

the n.f.l. record by taking about pass a full ninety nine yards for a touched on one for the thirty year old i like we'll bounce the dolphins did pull one bucket reggie bush called a touched on. postulates in the fourth but had mothered little thirty eight twenty four the final search for anyone. that rader is also proving capable road warriors beating denver at mile high marcel restating the party started a long distance effort after the jump for the visitors but it didn't stop sebastian junger kosky from time the n.f.l. second record sixty four yard beltre darren mcfadden figured heavily in denver's defense of game time but still find time to go wild defensively to drunken star want to buy champ bailey injuring his calm string while making this stop meaning for by k.c. kumble sneak into the end and secure a twenty three twenty to the lakers are. one of baseball's all time great sluggers

has been hit with buggery charges after a domestic dispute with his wife the retired money ramirez arrested after an incident in his miami home ramires his wife juliana fine with swelling on her face on a small bruise on the back of her head upsetting the pill to the police with two thousand and four world series m.v.p. ramirez he denies the assault stating in states where wife put her head by accident when they were arguing that dominican republic nascent retired from baseball april after testing positive for performance and unsafe drugs. and finally the fourth kontinental hockey league season has gotten on the way the initial faceoff postponed following last week's tragic car crash which saw all of the luck if you die a disaster of epic proportions but the sport must go on robert for dion what c.s. could take on you boys ukra on day one. this is the toughest challenge the young league has ever had to live through the cave and through this four season in death

. players remembered in somewhere tribute to their friends at the community theater slowly who were killed in a plane crash last wednesday and brief oleksandr a glimmer of light for to survive in hospital but best to wait on monday morning. it was sisko and your brother who opened the citizen in the russian capital. here a man led by their new coach should get off to a first and furious start. just two minutes into the game to produce a muster piece move to open the scoring. you grow up push forward some good chances to level but it was this close he scored again. questioning here to

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us and remain. part of washington's plans to build a wider nato defense shield in. the agreement will formally authorize the deployment of american ballistic missile the romanian soil i'll be back with more from washington in just a few moments. libyan rebels continue to attack the few remaining strongholds of. nato air strikes the country's transitional forces of giving residents of the. two days to leave before. stormy seas in europe. germany attempts to calm fears over greece's potential default by urging members of the eurozone to stick together. to help our top stories this.