herders who were muslims of being treated who were just as occlusion as me to spy on muslims all over the united states to allow entrapment and what have you and the general open harassment of muslims is worse than mccarthyism it is more like naziism because there's a state of fear that exists in the muslim community today carol i want to get your response to that do you think that islamophobia here in america first of all is alive and well and do you think it can be compared to naziism arced of all i'd like to thank you for having me on the show i disagree with the scion of the newscasts i think that there are some americans that are concerned about islam radical islam but i don't see hatred of muslims there are far more anti-semitism there are there are acts of violence against anyone in the muslim community and i believe that americans see what's happening in europe and that they are rightly concerned we

have to be able to talk about this without being labeled as haters and racists or whatever other epithet it you want to throw out you know carol let me ask you this when we saw for example the mass protest that came out against the mosque near ground zero the islamic center there as well as these hearings on capitol hill you don't think that there was an element of hatred in any of those things. no i think peter king was doing his responsibility by conducting the hearings there's been something like twenty percent of black prisoners that have converted to islam we know their al-qaeda is recruiting american citizens u.s. born citizens are to create to commit terrorist activities and so peter king's hearing i think that's congress' two hundred chart and with the ground zero mosque i think it was inappropriate to seek to place some parts so close to the site

better tragedy it was called church made on the part of some organizers in the muslim community i believe americans would be less afraid it if more muslim leaders would come out and condemn balance can d.m. anti-semitism and show that they really want to be americans they don't want to realign the u.s. but they realize that we can only help one america. imani you're a muslim leader in this community do you think it's your responsibility to commandeer that well. let me explain a few things the sisters think totally misguided on many occasions the first issue relates to muslims in prison because i did a little time in prison myself except a true islam while i was in prison and wales we were created by a higher layer in present islam changed me for transformation from one of the main drug dealers in northern california multimillion dollar aeration from a drug dealer going down to colombia and started to bring back drugs myself even

after being hassled here from that to its non trying to help raise humanity to higher level to stop trying to create wars around the world the other thing is is that islam is transforming not only individuals lives but say the black community itself there's no program in the federal state and local governments that can even approach the reformative has picked of islam in prisons for the government to hassle prisoners who are trying to change who need a strong tiny strong medicinal process to help lift them out of crime we believe that's a slam there's another issue on the attitude of muslims this does last weekend september tenth there's a program united we stand these are all prominent muslims one nation

one destiny with all of this nom of phobia with many of these people being arrested and challenged they had a big program here in washington d.c. called united we stand one nation looking here and and if you were to read it you would see that they are saying one nation one destiny you know civil revolutionary call united we stand. divided before where all of the oppression of muslims look gone out of their way i mean been over backwards to see less all work together we human being there's one you will program this one was called. in god we trust this is what i'm going to tell you is everybody knows that this is on the money in america these are all american ideals and the muslims are breaking a mirror back trying to cooperate. dictators like.

love you back to carol because i don't think they carol swain is saying that you and others that all muslims are bad but i think that she is thing and carol answer because i mean you're saying that there needs to be some sort of closer look taken at the muslim community is that correct no i think the muslim community needs to hear what they acknowledge and that there is a public relations problem but it would be very helpful if some of the muslim leaders instead of calling people they criticize islam haters and nazis and whatever they want to call than they need to to try to preach differences and can d.m. some of the violence and i take such extremist rhetoric i think the tone of this program since the wrong signal i'm more concerned about anti-semitism because it is growing if you look at the f.b.i. hate crime statistics it's the jews in america and in parts of the world really

running for their lives the other ones that's been threatened i'd like to see us can be a bear we have to have a society where we can talk about the threat of radical islam the recruitment of black young people in prison i've had relatives recruit it became about hating white people cannot be good for society we need to be able to talk about these things without being called names. because that was tradition for muslims and america was an eight hundred ninety three it was muslims. spearheaded. move to help protect bosnia bosnians own weight this racial hatred this is all muslims it was spearheaded by the pakistani community in the black community we loaded we did all the security and not footwork that we protected we were trying to protect people who were being slaughtered in europe they were white people in jail in our centers and when i was not with disability

explain something to save the jews i haven't a proper ending is that symmetry ism is a big problem in the us would see a lot of the work yes but if you have the new york times if you have media outlets all over the world if you have hollywood going your way out or you would have to live as a muslim you would have to live as a muslim you would have to be stopped in their ports you would have to be jailed and brought down a street because i've heard it all happen to me recently one time to tell you that muslims are the ones that are being or press to be. certainly i hear the topic that was a panel that we had with a professor of political science and law carol swain she also wrote the book called be the people of color to reclaim america's faith and promise and even abdul alim musa director of it must. be in washington d.c. and that is going to do it for now but for more on the stories we cover go to r.t.

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the lives. of. six. displacement is another of war's consequences the forced migration of civilians has profound impacts on the natural environment this image was taken in one thousand nine hundred six after the tens of million government decided to close camps for wanted refugees the column of refugees in this photo spread for twenty seven miles for the rwandan border. these women are i.d.p.'s internally

displaced persons although they have fled the genocide in darfur province they have not crossed the sudanese border and are not considered refugees under international law collect wood for cooking they must risk being attacked by the general we need government backed arab militia men target the sudan's black population. with their heavy demand for would then six million internally displaced persons and further stress to a landscape already degraded by climate change and to certification. internal displacement is a growing problem in iraq an estimated two million civilians have been displaced since the start of operation iraqi freedom i.d.p. camps have strung up in the outskirts of measure baghdad and nineveh many lack potable water medicine and proper waste disposal the real risk of not addressing

the environmental problems is that people simply have to leave their homes if they don't have wood to burn to cook with to heat their homes where they don't have water to drink they leave and you see massive displacement happening we call it environmental refugees if you will but people are leaving their homes this creates i demand on resources it creates demand on infrastructure and ultimately displacement undermines the peace process in the vietnam war the vietnam war the american war. there is a clash and was a clash between. very highly technological society and a largely agrarian society. i think we have a lot of arrogance we thought we were going to go in and take control blow up what we needed to blow up and do basically what we wanted.

and one of the main reasons that i refused to carry a weapon was that i could not see any justification for the destruction of the y. and at the revel that i saw an infantry platoon. was mainly moved from place to place by helicopter the helicopters would fly high so as not to draw a ground fire and when you're at a high altitude you can look out on the land and sea and for miles and miles and miles and in the kuchi area especially there were times and places where i would look out and see nothing but a ravenous landscape. creators one after the other so close together and you see who i want to serve the green had not environment. i grew up in

a small town in illinois. town surrounded by corn fields and in fields very beautiful town along when my river. and when i saw from high in the sky the destruction to the way and i couldn't help wondering what if that had happened to our cornfields are being fields i would we feel if that happened off. was. getting that. was. that. i went to that world knowing nothing at all but when i saw that level of destruction i could not and we if this was going to lead to democracy

this was a wind in the sand was going to be. for the cause of freedom i was to put every little faith i had in the war and being noble in any sense. it's. not far away in the pacific i was the tiny atoll of bikini in the martial art doesn't spot the odd beefing up mankind has had of all thoughts eloquent over the graveyard of many

ships a ghost a navy man don't invite goats pigs and like rats awaiting bust. army and maybe a personnel commissar to carry out that. appeal but the island as a whole lived under japanese mandate for twenty years now to jamie the. united states now wants to turn its great instruct power in something part of benefit. and that. your feet are the first step. i think it's generally the case that the greater and more durable impacts come from preparation for war rather than combat itself. but depends mimes parm to

support the men who march and say in one plot but the mobilization regions still further into the life of the nation actors must bring in the forests and trees must fall for the sawmills wait for law and builders right for lumber states feel the need to be militarily prepared and in the modern world that has meant building a military industrial complex building a pollution intensive industry to generate military goods one of the best examples of how the business of preparing for war can have long lasting environmental impacts is the nuclear weapons programs around the world that have been in place since the early one nine hundred forty s. wherever this is happened there have been environmental problems with radioactive waste. which no one anywhere has satisfactorily saw.

and it is their reputation which is located in washington state when the nuclear bombs were developed their little thought was given to what to do about the waste that would be felt afterwards indeed now the u.s. department of energy calls hanford the world's largest environmental cleanup project hanford washington is the site where the united states has essentially accumulated its nuclear waste mostly from weapons work also from nuclear power and other radioactive related industries hanford was constructed in one nine hundred forty two the top secret manhattan project its location along the columbia river provided a ready source of water cooling nuclear reactors the head for it engineering works produced the plutonium used in the trinity test device and in the fat man bomb released on like a sucky production of plutonium intensified during the cold war one thousand and

sixty three dual purpose n. reactor was constructed to generate nuclear power for civilian use reactor building completed nineteen sixty three. to break construction. and i think it's very appropriate that we come. back that much is being done for power but not very great but the united states and the find a chance to strike a blow for peace and to find a cancer strike a blow for a better life rock other part of this is a great while i can assure you it will be maintained and from the work we began today i was like work for our god america or the pilot first but the world that relies on the united states we are moving in. providing security for our people. you know the right are a little light in the throat you're right that the.

since the production of tony i'm ceased in one thousand nine hundred eighty seven cleanup has been the only mission at the head for a nuclear reservation there are fifty three million gallons of high level radioactive and chemical waste and fraud stored in one hundred seventy seven underground tanks seventy of these tanks have leaked spilling a proximately one million gallons of waste into the soil. after washington is a wasteland of leaking radioactive waste that will be with the spent decades and decades probably centuries to come and it's currently costing us billions of dollars to just try to contain let alone clean up in truth it's never going to be cleaned up and some of the radioactive waste will remain potentially lethal for twenty four thousand years which is any way you slice it a long time. the

united states used to stockpile chemical weapons unbeknown to most of the world in germany and in okinawa with u.s. troops in japan and those two stockpiles which were never used of course were shipped back secretly to johnston told in the pacific and one of the world's largest incinerators was built in the middle of a wildlife refuge and that process in burning those chemical weapons from okinawa in germany to place in one thousand nine hundred two to the year two thousand john snaffle has been still is being studied but that's actually a very interesting case of a unique coral reef really in the middle of the pacific ocean it's about seven hundred fifty miles west of hawaii that was used as a launch site for atmospheric nuclear testing. before the fall of the call for book

. a one of a column casualty i know it was a stick. which caused a fire that's more efficient. missile and more oh my gosh. when at least one of the atmospheric tests with the hydrogen bomb blew up on the launch pad a good part of just natural was left with highly radioactive plutonium debris twenty years later all the agent orange that was all dumped on johnson are stored as they say on shots natural that really over time became a dump site for beijing orange and now thirdly we put chemical weapons on

transnational this national wildlife refuge under the fish and wildlife department has really been used and abused by the military over the ages. for. only a few hours the phone it was typed out and awesome it was efficient depending going out and it had maids before you what to do in such as shelters the people calmly waited all unaware that already descending upon them was the atom bomb. but it was all about four and a half square miles of that awesome moment but on the last of the extension you all shattering devastation in which was gone the atomic age. radiation effects look on past to be imprinted on balls and fun and just like button shadows allowed outlined on a building the design of a dress left on the body of a man who would die in

a few days and not from the office of. the. members of the so-called nuclear club states known to have detonated nuclear weapons either best pick or foreign soil among them at least two thousand have been conducted in the atmosphere underwater underground and in space. we're retaining tens of thousands of nuclear weapons when probably a few hundred would be enough for deterrence we have nuclear weapons far in excess of any conceivable need for as the strongest conventional power by orders of magnitude in the world for the few skun tree to say

that we need nuclear weapons what does that signal to the rest of the world. that they must be very valuable and that they probably would want to get them selves and i think islamists any nation retain sneak a weapons and other nations who more than a few years. that was a real promise of hope for the poor both black and white through the popular program and then came the buildup in vietnam. and i watched this program broken and it was a raid as if it was some i don't political play thing about society gone mad on war and i knew that america would never invest the necessary uniters in rehabilitation of its poor so long as that ventures like vietnam continued to draw men and skills and money like some demonic destructive such into.

the world's currently spending somewhere around two trillion us journalists on the war and preparations for war and this enormous to fish for a fraction of that a man we could have clean water sanitation education health care for everybody on the planet such a terrible division of resources. any war that takes place on the matter how large or how small is enormous cost to what we're talking in lebanon today billions of dollars of heating up just a fifteen day war let alone you know the years and years of warfare in iraq or afghanistan or vietnam or wherever else i may take place so the costs of war really . if they're well understood and in most cases they're not but if they well understood should preclude the war to begin with a war is not worth the cost in terms of lives but also long term environmental and public health damage for decades to come.

across a fairly sophisticated problem in this time a concern that climate change just one example i think illustrates that well if we imagine one if sixteen five. time for just under one ad he says approximately twice as much oil as he every chimeric in cities and he says in he's ok if we hear. the f. sixteen it's just one machine in one branch of the military to take another example the army's abrams tank weighs sixty eight tons requires two gallons of fuel per mile all told the united states department of defense burned some three hundred fifty thousand barrels of oil per day making it the world's largest single consumer the defense department uses i think somewhat over two thirds of the energy. that

the u.s. government. uses it uses them for ships and tanks and planes and heating buildings and a whole host of other things. probably the largest impact that all the defense effort has is a diversion of intellectual one hundred g. and are not a terry resources away from trying to solve and address some of the long term problems. in sea level is also rising and in louisiana we've been losing thirty square miles a year roughly. of late. i mean if the united states were losing that to some foreign power we'd have a military out there depending. we often asked the question were you on september eleventh well i remember that very clearly because i was in new york and i was there specifically to give

a bunch an address at the new york times on the new book eco economy building an economy for the year. well by mid-morning that much was already history terrorism is a threat no question about it but on my list of threats to our future. there are there are many more serious threats climate change being an obvious one population growth being another the economy does not exist in a vacuum it is entirely dependent on the earth's natural systems and resources and if we damage and destroy those systems and resources then the economy will eventually decline and one day collapse the challenge is not to fashion a high tech know what terri response to terrorism that will work the challenge is to build an environmentally sustainable equitable society that will do more to undermine terrorism than.