yes the state has to come back but in a thirty diverse one of the things we have to do is reinvent the state actually in the public realm based on entitlement based on the fact that if the private investors are going something else that is publicly accountable is going to have to step in it doesn't have to be all of you really this all leads to we're all roads lead to rome but it's about democracy too i mean when you have an election cycle you have to deliver the goods at least at a certain point or make promises that you can't keep ok and this is one of the problems that the industrialized west has because it has to give the pretense of making promises in entitlements that are very short limited basis but when you have india brazil china russia they think very long term everyone in russia talks about putin's twenty twenty five project ok and slowly but surely they're working away at it but there's a longer vision and it's now tied to the election cycle how much of the problems in the economy in the west is tied to elections the more the states provide some

material goods and the more that it's seen that to be that then inevitably more it will fall prey to election cycles but i want to use what we've what's been said about higher education and other social goods provided by the state to illustrate or to me seems to be a very disconcerting fact as we know in britain for instance higher education now is now no longer free when i was a student it was free this is one of the many examples property is another one which shows that the generations are getting poorer we are on a downward slope in spite of all the propaganda about how free trade makes anybody richer i don't have figures but i it is my firm conviction that there is nobody or very few people who are richer now than their parents the property prices have been driven out by monitor really generated inflation and by monetary instability generally and the accumulation of debt is obviously a taxation in one form or another on future generations to the benefit of present one one of the. one of the big issues of today is into what you also no longer very

interesting is if we look at the emerging market world you have this expansion of middle classes huge middle class and right now but we have in the west in particular in the united states and years old we see the middle class being under norma's assault in the income disparity that we see you know quality that is growing now i mean to echo what john just said there i mean very few people know will say that they're going to be playing people do better than their parents i think what's happening is that we're seeing a polarization not just between the rich and the poor in a sort of jurist exams but we seeing sensually a constellation of the on the class and i don't like using the word but even on the class we seeing a middle class that's content being squeezed for all the reasons i don't said and we seeing a tiny tiny upper class i'm not using this in any social sense really an economic one but it's getting much much richer than anyone ever before where you know that their wealth is going up by a factor of ten one hundred or more and you know china has

a similar problem because it has now got the fastest rates let's go to fastest growth a billion that's you know soon london property prices will be pushed up in that segment body and used to her with growing middle class simultaneously do well sure but the fact is the kind of capitalism that we're dealing with does polarized society even in a very different context so yes you have to write about the middle class in china but china would also experience in this already experiencing social strife and conflict because of this polarization it takes on different forms but camps it isn't always works that it works through dispossession expropriation and it does not trickle down to the masses that's a great myth which i hope the last three or four five years you know it's going to be you also if i go to use it you know a lot of people say that the middle class they get the state off my back but maybe in the industrialized west it's the state that can save the middle class actually i think the fourth myth is that the middle class exists. there are two divisions really one is between the financial guys and the corporate guys and i'm happy it's . corporate guys invest the financial guys are not going to sue if the corporate

guys don't invest the public's going to have to come in which is what's happening now but the other thing is the property owners and on property owners and i was amazed to discover when i got to the united states that everybody who's in the trade union is considered middle class you just mean guys with jobs that's what you see very often terrible little family capital or capital gains or whatever and you just need people who make money from money and people only money from work and most of these middle class people make money from work and they should cast their lot in with the poor people who make their money to the point where being employed means little ones well i once. did i know in both once said very quickly that for him working class men people who didn't want to work. was an urgent cleaner when it collapsed and i would put it another way around when you get a crisis the middle class becomes the people who have to work and they stop having this illusion that they can become rich like everybody else and suddenly realize

hey we're just like the poor guy down the street that i used to pass by they're all in the same boat when they realize that then you'll get democracy back then you'll get equality back because once people think we're all in the same boat then they start thinking we should all have the same rights except the guys are taking it away from us and that's precisely where we need much more many more risk in sharing risk and profit sharing arrangements so that you know you don't have a disconnect in those who take risk and suffer the consequences because what we've essentially dealing with is the system out as privatized profit nationalized losses and socialize risk and that is a system which still in three or four years after the onset of course is them for the rich and capitalism for the poor exactly and in some ways what we really need is for people to share risk and profit so that if things go well everyone benefits and the way to do this is through property it's through various forms of property not just individual property but also forms of communal property housing associations are great great example of this that's where you share. risk and

profit everyone is better off if you work together on your own you could never for example negotiate better energy deals with companies you could only do it as a small body and we could have as across the economy to the central and i'm not sure at last what. the banks got my money is with a credit union you know manitoba the prairie's have them right you give them their money they keep it. other people like you. the economist victoria trick that great can't. be old fashioned here thank you gentlemen for discussing this in stay with r.t. . hamar

been here broadcasting live from washington d.c. coming up today on the big picture. it'll. be. limitless.

but. a i. was. hello i'm john berman in washington d.c. and here's what's coming up tonight on the big picture right now in our nation over forty million people live in poverty literally struggling to keep food on the table and a roof over their heads one republican claims the poor are actually getting richer as they have a task and reveal the truth about poverty in america meanwhile a georgia inmate repairs to be executed for a murder which he may not have committed so the republican governor nathan deal with the georgia state parole board do what's right and grant the man on it's time

will tell but the clock is ticking and speaking of killing innocent people as presidential hopeful rick perry and his record of executions in texas i'll tell you the story of one innocent man in texas who felt the wrath of very swift texas so-called justice and asked the question why is no one talking about this. you need to know this you know that states the wealthiest nation on the planet scott a heck of a lot who are the latest census report paints a grim picture of art in america with more than fifteen percent of our people living in poverty today that's forty six point two million people the most ever recorded in the history of this nation not only that the income of a typical american family has dropped for the third year in a row and inflation adjusted earnings for men who work full time jobs at drop down

to levels not seen since one thousand seven hundred eight that means expect those poverty numbers to grow even larger as paychecks continue to. at tea party senator rand paul thinks things like unemployment benefits would stamps and welfare programs you know things that people help people get out of poverty are unconstitutional he was unfazed by the latest census numbers here's what he had to say about poverty in america during a senate hearing yesterday. we also need to understand that poverty is not a state of permanence when you look at people in the bottom fifth of the economic ladder those at the bottom only five percent are there after sixteen years people move up people do american dream does exist and we actually more and more people are falling out of the middle class and into the lower classes into the bottom fifth as a reserve or from the pew charitable trust uncovered one third of those who were

born and raised in the middle class the one nine hundred seventy s. a sense of dropped out of the middle class today and joined the ranks of the working poor. because senator paul as you were saying. the rich are getting richer but the poor are getting richer even faster yeah the poor are getting richer then why are your people in poverty today than ever before sen the truth is for the last thirty years the rich have been getting richer and the poor have been getting poorer and poorer and poorer and there are a number of reasons why let's just go through some of the facts here it's pretty simple simple and straightforward stuff. here's this first graph is before household income. and you know before taxes. he talked about the bottom twenty percent as these five quintiles this book line at the very bottom this is the bottom twenty percent you see the relatively unchanged men terms of

household income the next the blue one next up above that is the second twenty percent so the bottom forty percent the origin of that is the next twenty percent or so eerie you know that here we have basically eighty percent of america and then the one above that this is the the the fourth twenty percent and then here's the fifth fifth these each one of these are one fifth slices of america has four fifths of america one for the america with the exception of the top one percent this isn't twenty percent this is this is one percent and you can see what's happened to their income since one thousand nine hundred seventy nine this is one reagan was elected and dropped taxes on the very rich and boom it's been of there's a little bit of a bump there during the dot com bust but that was pretty much it go to the next picture. that changes share of income versus nine hundred seventy nine and this is this is how people were before the reagan tax cuts basically here we see that with

this this data by by the way is the zero point so sure of income the the bottom bottom twenty percent as fall in the most the next twenty the next twenty and twenty all wealth for the bottom eighty percent of america is below the zero point the top twenty percent is above the zero point but it's only about twenty five percent but the top one percent almost one hundred thirty percent of an increase next picture this is a share of federal tax revenue no this is where does the federal government get its money from what we see is that first of all regular income tax this is personal income taxes for pretty steady over the years it's been steady even though the taxes have gone down on the rich because they've gone up on working people in part through bad bracket creep and in part because reagan raised taxes famously i think was seven times during his presidency it was more than that whatever it was but

when we look at the payroll tax this is a tax that is not paid by anybody making over one hundred six thousand dollars it's only by people paid by people making one hundred six thousand eight hundred dollars or less so this is the poor the working poor and the middle class where this has gone from paying ten percent of the taxes to paying forty percent of the times this is the payroll tax and then of course corporate taxes have collapsed corporate taxes now we're looking from the one to this is eisenhower corporations are paying thirty three percent of all of the total tax load going to the federal government and now they're down to about six percent next month. as why is it that the middle classes income is crashing why is it that individual income is crashing well here what you see is union membership rate was at thirty percent one hundred sixty seven . and the middle class share of the other was a percentage of people in the in the middle class the share of national income was a fifty four percent as union ism as union membership dropped it has dropped

precipitously particularly since reagan that that happened right about here this is where reagan was we've you know we see during this period of time that that national income has dropped right along with them and they just show their pretty pretty perfectly i mean it's a it's a it's a very see so to the next picture here this is workers' wages versus c.e.o. salaries so where is the money going well first of all a way to end where this is from one hundred seventy two thousand and five of these particular numbers so first of all average worker's wages that's in this line right here a twenty six percent now that's actually overall because even millionaires and billionaires have seen their wage part a lot of their compensation is in other forms like stock dividends and stock options and things so their wages have gone up with just twenty six percent over this entire period of time from one hundred seventy two thousand and five quarter

profits of course exploded and the median executive income look at what happened after the reagan tax cuts and in the one nine hundred eighty s. boom and cuts on corporate income tax boom but the average working person it's rooted in the next one. this is the loss of american manufacturing and what we see here is that starting in one nine hundred forty seven this is this these are the elite you're this is you know the truman years the eisenhower years the kennedy years and then and then study slide particularly during the reagan years and then you know the nafta and all that down to the point where eleven point two percent of our gross domestic income our g.d.p. gross domestic product is from manufacturing used to be well over a quarter used to be twenty twenty five point six percent so what's that been replaced with what is it that we make in america where does our money from has been

replaced with is finance the finance industry banks stirrers and banks used to be back in one hundred forty seven ten percent of our of our economy it was a nice slow steady boring spadeful business guy with green eyeshades working banking hours you know with normal salaries but then we see as the banks got deregulated now they represent twenty one percent that's two thousand and nine now in fact last year was there were over thirty percent of all corporate profits in the eyes that were from the financial sector you can't build an economy or a nation if the only thing you're producing is derivatives you've got to get back to manufacturing and going back to manufacturing take suspect was strong middle class with good paying jobs we need a national trade policy and we need a role and we need to roll the regulations back into the banks tears to stop them from this crazy behavior.

time for our daily poll your chance to tell us what you think here's the day's question will the gang of twelve abandon reagan's misguided policies and tax the oligarchy to help the four forty six point two percent of. the forty six point two million americans who are now living in poverty your choices are yes they will tax the oligarchy just like f.d.r. truman eisenhower kennedy johnson nixon ford carter and clinton did in the past or . bush should reagan's economics of tax cuts for the rich and screwing over the working people will prevail we're going to target those no you think the poll will be open until tomorrow morning. crazy alert don't go in the spot seriously and guys you know you may not want to look a fifty six year old man in china went to a beauty spa this week to bathe eels that eat away dead skin are supposed to make

people look younger but let's just say things didn't go according to plan i'll sit in the water the man felt an immense pain in his manhood reason region and realize the one of these slimy eels was trying to wriggle its way into his body through a rather small hole he later told a trainees newspaper i tried to hold it take it out but the deal was too slippery to be held and it disappeared up my. you know and and then had to have an emergency three hour surgery to remove the six inch slippery eel from his bladder and a new development stories doctors say that he'll was six inches long but the man continues to insist it was eight inches long. coming up will the outreach of support from people like president jimmy carter archbishop desmond tutu and even the pope save a georgia inmate from dying for a crime he may not have known that it.

drives the world the fear mongering used by politicians who makes decisions come to break through that sort of people who made who can you trust no one who is in view with a global missionary to see where we had a state controlled capitalism is called satchels when nobody dares to ask we do our t. question morning.

is the state of georgia on the verge of executing an innocent man on september twenty first troy anthony davis will be put to death by lethal injection for shooting and killing a police officer back in one thousand nine hundred ninety at the time there was no hard evidence tying davis to the murder no forensic evidence no videotape no murder weapon nothing but there were nine eyewitnesses who testified in the trial and they all implicated davis. however today seven of those nine witnesses have recanted their testimony and ten new witnesses have come forward pointing the finger at another man for the murder yet davis is still on death row and is set to die next week members of congress john lewis and johnson wrote a letter to the georgia state board of pardons and paroles asking for davis's

sentence to be reduced to life in prison so two had numerous other public figures including former president jimmy carter pope benedict and archbishop desmond tutu so now it's up to the state paroles board and republican governor nathan deal to determine whether or not they will put a man to death who has serious questions surrounding his guilt for more on this as well as the broader implications of the death penalty in america i'm joined by larry cox executive director of amnesty international usa larry welcome. thank you for having me thank you for joining us i gave a brief summary of the troy davis case davis case you want to fill this in a little bit who are the people who recanted their testimony who are the people who have come forward and and said no he didn't do it who are they saying did it. well you you filled it in very well. the even at the time of the trial and

initially before when it was being investigated sylvester coles was thought possibly to be the man who committed these crimes he himself went to the police and implicated troy davis and he's one of the two people who have not changed his testimony for obvious reasons but as you pointed out in addition to the seven. of nine witnesses who have now either recanted completely or contradicted their earlier testimony. numerous people have now come forward to implicate sylvester coles even more so at the very least it raises the strongest doubts about whether troy davis really committed this crime and certainly it ought to give pause to the parole board before it orders at this execution be carried out if in fact in my mind it raises the question why isn't this guy getting a new trial i mean forget about whether or not. he should be executed shouldn't he should need shouldn't this trial be reopened. well he has been seeking

a new trial ever since he was convicted he has of course continued to maintain his innocence and years demanded a new trial. after several failed attempts to kill him by the state of georgia the supreme court finally ordered an evidentiary hearing but it wasn't a new trial in fact he had to prove in that evidentiary hearing that he was innocent very very high standard had to prove without a doubt that he was innocent and while the judge who overheard that evidentiary hearing admitted that the case against davis was not ironclad and that there were some doubts he said he had not proven his innocence of course we live in a country where the idea is that the state has to prove your guilt not that you have to prove your innocence and they have to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt and there are jurors who having heard these recantations

and learning about them have said that if they had known then what they know now they would never have recommended that troy davis be either convicted or put to death so yes it does raise serious questions about why he's not getting a new trial this is something that as you know i'm sure as many people know it's very difficult to do in our judicial system once a conviction comes down the courts and certainly the prosecution is very reluctant to ever admit that they made the kind of mistake that would require a new trial what are what is an a c usa and what are the i know there are a number of other groups involved with this as well doing this week and and what's your call to action to our viewers about what they can do to prevent this man from being executed next week in the state of georgia. well the encouraging news especially when you think back to the presidential debate where people applauded the death penalty is that hundreds of thousands of people around the world

including tens of thousands of people in georgia have signed petitions saying they do not want to see the state of georgia kill troy davis they are convinced that he may be innocent and that there is too much doubt much too much doubt to proceed with an execution we will be submitting those petitions tomorrow along with the end of the p. along with other organizations. to the parole board we hope it will give them pause had they been asked as they are in cases like this when the death penalty is involved to play a role that they are not suited for that is to say to play the role of god to know for sure that troy davis committed this crime when there's so much doubt they can't do that they should be put in that position and we're hoping that they will refuse to do that and that they will give him clemency if they give him clemency he of course will still be locked up which means that if they're wrong and he is guilty he certainly cannot do any harm to anybody anymore but if he is innocent as he

claims he is then we of course will have one more case of somebody who has. been killed who was an innocent person and we know from d.n.a. that many of the people on death row are found to be innocent we don't know for sure how many of the people put to death have been innocent but we can guess that it must be considerable in any sense of what those numbers are like what percentage of death penalty victims in the u.s. are innocent. you know awaiting trial it's hard to know how many because what once people are put to death there's very little incentive to and didn't investigate they're not always as as we may discuss soon about in the case of texas there's one case where the investigation has gone on after the death. you do know that for every person who is executed in the united states every ten people who are executed in the united states there's one on death row who is found to be innocent so if you

argue that if you look at that figure and you guess how many people have you know especially before we started doing d.n.a. how many people were put to death who would have been found innocent the numbers are staggering and ought to give pause to anybody who cheers when they hear that hundreds of people have been put to death in a certain state and speaking of that in texas here's here's what happened to the republican debate recently when rick perry was asked this question. if you come into our state and you kill one of our children you kill a police officer you're involved with another crime and you kill one of our citizens. you will face the ultimate justice in the state of texas and that is you will be executed what do you make and there was wild applause for that there

was while applause for his introduction as the guy was executed the most prisoners perhaps what that audience didn't realize is that rick perry onil certainly executed an innocent man and is now being held to account for today by the media by the voters or by the other republicans who share the stage with him in those debates there's the case of cameron todd willingham a man accused of killing his three daughters by studying this house on fire what do we need to know about this case. well this was the most chilling part of that debate because when governor perry was asked if he ever worried about killing an innocent person he said he didn't worry at all he had no doubts he was absolutely didn't even give it a second thought and yet in the case of cameron todd willingham. after well before he was executed i should say there was very strong evidence that the forensic.