investigation that had led to his conviction was deeply flawed he was accused of burning down his house and killing his children i mean the case is a few a complicated one but if you read through it it's impossible to come away. with this without reaching the conclusion that he was most likely innocent and have solely to for the. they found when they looked at the evidence that have been used to convict him of arson that there was no compelling evidence that arson had even been committed he himself was in the house he himself was burned and he fled the house. most of the other arguments against him were also later refuted so. yeah it's a very high probability that he may have been innocent the fact that the governor perry said that this did not even make him you know we're right let's go it's not only was early for a grieving father of three put to death but then there was an

investigation as the new evidence came forward after the execution and governor it was worth it but that did not. that's correct there was both as i said even before the execution there had been this evidence then based on this there was an investigative journalist who looked at it very carefully and then an official commission was set up this is so rare you know that they had found really compelling now that it's that something had gone terribly wrong in the state of texas. halfway through or even earlier than that as this because they began their work to investigate governor perry changed the head of that commission he changed several members of that commission and it has never officially reported its findings. so we were never that we would never know the guy the guy that well a very good governor perry is going to execute tomorrow duane edward bucks

according to kerry's expert dr walter. is getting the death penalty in texas in order to get the death penalty you have to prove that a person has what's called future dangerousness and this fellow is testimony said that he deserved the death penalty because and i'm quoting now from here is expert witness he's african-american and the race factor being black increases the future dangerousness and quote that's why this guy's been executed rather than life in prison for murder texas. just this last. texas says that oh yes you have to have this this this future dangerousness is this typical of texas justice. well i don't know how typical it is of all of texas justice it's certainly again you've just put your finger on really an outrageous flaw in the death penalty process that governor perry was so proud of in at the big

i mean the idea. that somebody can determine how dangerous you will be in the future with such a certainty that it can be used as a reason to kill somebody rather than simply imprison somebody is on the face of it simply outrageous and. but there are other examples i mean the lack of adequate legal defense you have cases in texas where people have been put to death after the defense lawyer given to a defendant fell asleep during the trial so incompetent and yet the person went on to be convicted of the death penalty you know other cases where people have been actually denied and are suing to get d.n.a. evidence that might exonerate them because their counsel didn't insist on looking at d.n.a. evidence until it was too late and all of this means and i don't mean to just pick on texas because there is every state where you have the death penalty there are these kinds of flaws and that's why several states recently illinois new jersey new

mexico have done away with the death penalty altogether. illinois of course there were a number of people who were found to be innocent on death row so many that it became a huge scandal and they have eventually now voted the legislature to do away with the death penalty altogether not to mention the fact that it's an enormous waste of money you spend hundreds of millions of dollars more trying to kill somebody that it would take to simply lock somebody up and that money of course could be used to take measures that might actually help to prevent crime while the death penalty has never been shown to have any value in actually preventing murders. there are numerous reasons the numerous states i think texas because of the high number of people that are being killed there on a regular basis and i think there are several just coming up who are going on over

the next two years yeah yeah it's me this that larry larry we're out of time but him but thank you so much for joining us tonight well thank you for talking about this important subject and to people can get over to to amnesty usa dot org if you want to participate and sign that petition the death penalty is a scar on our criminal justice system and we need to get rid of it before more innocent people are given that ultimate punishment. after the break my conservative heroes stefano helper and brian darling join me tonight when i stand as the lone liberal in our weekly debate. that drives the world the fear mongering used by politicians who makes decisions it's going to didn't break through get through to people made who can you trust no one who is in view with a global machinery to see where we had a state controlled capitalism it's called satchels when nobody dares to

ask we do our tea question more. wednesday the night when i'm alone liberal and go up against two expert political commentators to debate the week's biggest stories on our panel tonight daniel helper the deputy online editor the weekly standard and brian darling columnist of

human events contributor to red state big government and director of government studies at the heritage foundation bryan thanks over there because both of those let's get started the c.b.o.t. congressional budget office you should a warning to the gang of twelve super committee yesterday literally a warning to the gang saying that the nation is on the verge of another recession and that their actions could make it worse in fact these are their exact words put on the screen here paul. the makers wanted to achieve both a short term economic boost and medium and long term fiscal sustainability which are these are both things present then they would have to put in place quote changes in taxes and spending that would widen the deficit now but narrow it later in the decade as in the economy needs a jump start means a stimulus right now austerity down the road you can establish both and a lot no problem but that has to be the order earlier in the show we examine the outrageous poverty numbers but it seems to me that the republicans are determined

to go the herbert hoover route to force president obama to go the herbert hoover route so that he will have the same outcomes or who am i wrong or you already want the obama rug didn't work so well look at as zero three million jobs no we have not grown at all as we have under one percent growth this year really even jobs we've been through the graphs have seen the graphs and you know do you think it was americans that don't have a job right now care that the president claims he saved or created three million jobs wasn't a big enough stimulus but three million jobs is better than none the president the stimulus that stimulus produced three million jobs this one according to moody's analytics according to mark zandi the chief economist of moody's analytics will produce one nine one point nine million that's one of the lower numbers you know it was one of the guys at s. and p. said it is going to be two point four million so the republicans are saying wait a minute you created three million you couldn't believe two million you're going to get to below eight percent you get reelected we can't have that doug elmendorf the

head of the c b o specifically said he's not dorsey any policy this is these are decisions that lawmakers will have to make and of course lawmakers are have to answer to their constituents what not not true again and why they are hers alex couple the. book again twelve is just making a recommendation that will be voted up or down by it's just a recommendation it they're going to they're going to lay out a committee they're going to lay out a piece of legislation of that i as you say resolution recommendations and spell of ostrava. that's very different than any any but it's only just before it's awful that anything that than any piece of well that and legislature can let legislate or can you find my point is this at some point the lawmakers will have to respond to their and answer to their constituents just as they have to do in a representative democracy i think one example would be new york nine where we had a republican running in a in a heavily heavily democratic district and there was a special election that took place yesterday and the republican won by an astounding eight point eight it district that that

a democrat had to carry previously i think you are merely might might coast by more than thirty points again we need you are making my point the economy sucks and obama is being blamed for it and the republicans want to make sure that continues where we've. just said to be there were obviously come on the growth of jobs as i said that the stimulus kept us from a depression we're in a recession to obama's economy and people don't want it people want something else they want to really want a better economy we want to more jobs why publishers are going to given that right given a choice between the republican solution and the democratic solution they are choosing the republican solution and what are the republicans what is the republican suggesting they are suggesting what we're taxes and and what we're government interference create a better job creating environment and that's and the democrats apparently oppose that and that's what herbert hoover tried. work out real well didn't you put the you know bombed out plan hasn't worked i don't care you can't win if you don't follow my lead he has kept us from of the pressure know what he's doing we're just

interested in working through getting obama said if we're to do the first thing you'll get on a rational person looks at what numbers we were losing eight hundred thousand jobs a month when he put that was right so we had a nine point one percent on the headline forty million do you have sort of the one percent growth this year it is not wonderful and you guys want to keep it there though to say we have a good set of why doesn't congress passes it will not know because it's going to destroy the economy this bill know it's allies you're going to hire two million people are going to get added value my god like jobs it will save or create government jobs because this is on the backs of governments again we're going to bail out the states we're going to have all these programs or even old soul and we'll move on i just want to make this is a punctuation if you've got it if you want to come in but what i find amazing is that republicans say government doesn't create jobs and then on the republican debate always has a debate about i created more jobs and he did know i created more jobs than he did when i was in the government. right but i feel i should actually

a leg and they agree with me i was was talking to sources you can recover any way you can reach it makes common that you would avoid going to be he said governments don't create jobs they can create an environment where job creators can create jobs which is true and those job creators of course are people like you and me no one in our part what i hear you agreeing with new but actually there's a number of things i do. for democrats pardon capitol hill today in particular i agree with you about the world's supreme court pick that's probably the only area. but only as a whole the diversion for democrats gathered on capitol hill today to protest or to protect social security senator bernie sanders congressman peter de fazio senator barbara boxer and senator shelby right house bay put the is the power of social security promises act on the table house and the senate and of course republicans seem hell bent on destroying social security or at least privatizing trying to hand over the banks there's here's a quick montage of republican thoughts on this topic. we also need to know that for

those who are not yet on the system the system simply has to be reformed in order for it to work i agree there's a little security is broke and we spent all the money and it's on its last legs unless we do something i believe in the chilean model where you give a personal retirement account option so we can move from an entitlement society to an empowerment society if the funding program of social security is not working and congress has been raiding the dollars from social security to pay for and you will get expenditures that's wrong it is a monstrous lie. it is a kanzi scheme to tell monstrous lie ponzi scheme broke the social security administration has two point six trillion dollars in its trust fund it will pay every benefit one hundred percent of every benefit for the next twenty seven years maybe twenty five if you want to use really like you know this recession is going to last for a long time members and then it will pay eighty percent for ever if we do what

these three senators and one member of congress proposed today which was simply say anybody with an income over two hundred fifty thousand dollars has to pay the same social security tax if their janitors and secretaries pay i mean literally they're janitors and secretaries that you know god forbid jamie dimon of j.p. morgan is going to start paying the same security tax that is janitor does it will be solvent forever i mean i know i'm astounded by this and i'm particularly is touted by herman cain pulling out the chilean mud doug elmendorf both the head of the c b o he mentioned during the hearing that we referenced earlier that these programs social security and medicare are growing far greater than our economy is growing at a far faster pace these are some unsustainable programs that have to be reformed right over the seventy five year period as i said it's you know i would have if you saw it so i know what it was of these thirty years said you tax you have people making over two hundred fifty thousand dollars pay the same now did i or tax rate just the same tax rate on social security taxes as their. janitors as wal-mart

greeters why is it that the you know the chair of the lloyd blankfein at goldman sachs is paying less social security tax than a greeter at walmart please tell me ted why this is the only way out of iraq i don't know if you've ever seen chilean models but herman cain could be on the something more to the point more to the point look i've got very familiar with the chilean model and in fact let me let me just give you know this was put in place first of all by dictator pinochet in eighty one it was it was basically rolled back by michel bishop way in two thousand and eight and this is this is a quote from from our c.e.o. for example although the average rate of return on individual accounts in one thousand nine hundred eighty six was fifteen point nine percent the real return after commissions was just point three percent which was ninety one ninety five every twelve point nine percent of management fees lower the return it to two point one percent for a new worker role in ninety six the three point five percent gross yield amounted to a minus six percent return they have an average of sixteen to twenty percent management

fees because their social security program is being managed by their banks here's our average you know you know what this is our so security national fee is three percent look that's i mean the federal government waste so much money a lot more than three percent i'm managing this program that's ridiculous not only that we have a program but what's wrong with raising the retirement age i mean this is a program that hasn't been wanting seventy year old eighty year old bricklayers know i want people to work when they can work in and we're worried about right well they get their senior give they do what the republicans are talking about and i'm not talking about fringe candidates like herman cain and ron paul but i'm talking about are mitt romney and rick perry which of which they've made clear in the last few days what they're trying to do is not get rid of social security but the save social security because if nothing is done as you're suggesting you're suggesting something needs to be done the question is so i don't i wouldn't count as

a the way has the. aspersions on them but there's a thing as they're suggesting that something needs to be done so we can agree we can agree on that is why doesn't he do it and i think the idea it is a lie or two it is a lie did i say that people are paying into a trust fund because there is no such and there is trouble in six million six there's no i mean where is this account is it bankrupt which is what i totally my going to very far more to the point cause which i guarantee you didn't resign for a different time people who have a lot longer people are more reliant on their security it's easy reaching out great if you get it he certainly isn't as you know relying on the same as his janitor it's fine for ever right outside for the idea that the proposed let's talk about timing right solution i want to talk about their allies one of the few members of congress who has multiple arrests and an actual plea bargain on his record here's it we've got an actual criminal in congress and the group american family voices a filed a formal ethics complaint against say that he's investing he's an investment goldman sachs mutual funds well he tried to block it wasit against goldman sachs using his

official position that he's hiring foreign banks toure's to fight against the regulations and against banks and that he's procuring earmarks in his district it would help business properties the guys are familiar with this stuff so what should be done about this i think he's being attacked because he's doing such a great job and investigating the fast and the furious scandal over the department of justice with our government was funneling guns into mexico that came back and were used in the killing of at least one american citizen who worked on the border isn't all of us against it is doing a sure thing he's doing a great job and it should have been investigated back there and when it started during the bush administration there is information that the white house may have been involved in known about it now would it would be doing that taking the whistleblowers and their shoving a mop i mean they're keeping them in different jobs and firing the one guy that blew the whistle on david broder and their allies to came out and said he's not going to and investigate the fox news. the policy fact he said on fox news

yesterday and i can all investigate the possibility that box use was hacking cell phone because when i don't like the leg and there are no evidence that it was a device i knew it was there or that none was there with their own mind without investigation there won't be any will or of course not so you need one of you investigate whether m.s.n. b.c. was doing it too because there's no evidence they were doing it to you there is no allegation that their parent company was doing it now that's a different issue no the parent company is not fox news the mats and that's like saying i don't know every journalist here is going to me it was different subsidiary of of the parent company but anyway so that's beside the point though it would terrify so if he's doing something wrong he he he shouldn't and he should and he should stop and there should be an investigation they should and the trip be resolved and if legal means are necessary then that should be taken as well i'm not i don't have you know i'm not partisan in there in that regard i think but i do think brian has a point that it's because it's because he's he's now

a chairman as you're now that he's now conducting an investigation by excuse to say that he's now you know that you guys lesions of the obama administration and it goes to show how politics works people are going to be looking a lot more closely at him and his record he needs to be careful keen to do the right thing and i mean just as all the politicians the book you live in the public life your life will be scrutinized you need to do the right thing let's want to place a response it seems to me that he's just you know totally committed. to playing job . well we'll see that sense in what way well that's preposterous you're right you're right it is my sense should be he is a good job as joe mccarthy it rooting out communism you know he really got ok last question quick for elizabeth warren is in the race she lost her campaign to unseat republican scott brown in the u.s. some boston to take. i'm willing to throw my body in front of us to try to

stop bad ideas. i'm going to be harmful to the middle class i'm just going to keep doing what i john i just want to take that fight all the way to the nice state senate elizabeth hopefully the boss isn't right and how republicans are much of a fan of warren who built the consumer financial protection bureau and was ruled by congressional republicans because of it isis specifically so would you rather have elizabeth warren going after the banks there is the head of the c.f. p.d. or going after the banks there's a sitting u.s. senator i hope some of her constituents made ask her to keep that promise and see what she'll say then look i think i think with one of your sorry senate candidate and i say that she's a professor she's smart person she's she's qualified but she's going to say i don't even if she did say well you don't you don't have that many so it's not it's not a smart move or not so if you don't people in this then it's a good thing i didn't say it's a good thing i said it but that's not who people tend that's not who can be attractive the politicians are a loser with war and if she wants to start throwing herself under buses that are out of control good from which she should start right now and stop the the obama

so-called new stimulus plan but you know in massachusetts i hope the best democrat wins whether it be scott brown or elizabeth warren the best so you know it's down to scott no. interest yeah and i'm i'm just all in for elizabeth warren i think she's a rock the only reason why i like scott brown right there yeah is because i don't you know i was with laura. we'll see how it plays out gentlemen thank you both for joining us thanks not very good at. coming up ron paul thinks freedom is the right to die without health insurance so your freedom really means in america and i still eat it.

let's not forget that we are. going to well. whatever the government says they're safe get ready because there's freedom. of movement of the movement little. woman the woman woman. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so for like sleep you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else you hear see some other part of it and realized everything

you thought you knew you don't on time or is a big picture. good but out of the very very poor mostly ugly. or alpha nater ten

years after nine eleven nader isn't afraid to tell some inconvenient truths about our nation's response to that grim day in an interview with the nation magazine reporter jordan's thorndyke nater spoke about the rise of the military industrial complex saying the folly of the military industrial complex is that it not only a wode our economy and destroys a quality standard of living but it also ensures an empire which is insatiable in terms of the contract that wahid martin and others want to dominate the world it's just the opposite of defense and empire adventure lead devours its own people neither is right we need more people like him to highlight the dark road that america worked on post nine eleven. the bad washington's revolving door according to a new report by ledges storm over the last ten years fifty four hundred former congressional staffers and four hundred former wall makers have gone on to become

lobbyists adélie that more than six hundred former lobbyists and going on to work in congress as jack friendly the founder of the largest storm noted for every person in the american people have elected the sponsored legislation of public benefit special interests have more than one former legislative advocate now working on the inside in congress that represents a large network of people to influence decisions and to provide valuable intelligence it also represents the erosion of our democracy we need to shut the revolving door on capitol hill for good and hold our lawmakers accountable to voters and not the deep pocketed lobbyists and the very very ugly the drudge report the right wing fear mongering hack website at an interesting take on last night's republican victory in new york's ninth congressional district what used to be congressman anthony wiener his seat plastered across the top of matt drudge was headlined web page was the headline revenge of the jews the headline link to

a washington post article that described the district's high percentage of jewish voters and argued that many of them may have been upset with the president's foreign policy toward israel and most potent public so naturally drudge took it as a jewish revolt against the president. considering the drugs tries so hard gay in and day out to stoke fears of a coming race war it's no surprise he's also trying to spark a religious war too and that's a very fairly. for the last thirty years or so republicans have defined what freedom means in america at the debate this week ron paul told us what it means to be free in america. but what he should do is what he wants to do and assume responsibility for himself and

my advice to him would have a major medical policy but not before you listen to him that he doesn't have it and he's now he needs he needs intensive care for six months who pays that's what freedom is one of by taking your own risks this whole idea you have here you think here. as in free to die alone and broke just like what happened to ron paul's campaign manager all of them account snyder back in two thousand and eight when he was running rand paul's run ron paul's campaign and the contract and monia he spent two months in the hospital and died four hundred thousand dollars in debt because he didn't have health insurance ron paul doesn't even give his campaign staff health insurance i guess it's because he wants them to be free and then there's rick perry who is governor locked up more people than any other governor in america he loves to spew his definition of freedom to. we go forward america needs to be back where you need to be about freedom from overtaxation freedom litigation

three zero. regulation and america let me translate that in english that means freedom from government keeping air water and food safe freedom from government taxes to pay for roads bridges and police officers and freedom i.d.'s from lawyers being allowed to sue on our behalf when a corporation or incompetent doctor ruins our lives that's what republicans want you to believe freedom means freedom mostly from the government and considering our government is made up of we the people then that republican story essentially means freedom from each other maybe that's why some people are arming themselves to the teeth the but this isn't how freedom used to be defined in america in one nine hundred thirty six president franklin roosevelt divine defined freedom a different way when he famously said in old english judge once the subsurface men are not free man.