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investigation that had led to his conviction was deeply flawed he was accused of burning down his house and killing his children i mean the cases of you a complicated one but if you read through it it's impossible to come away with it without reaching a conclusion that he was most likely innocent and certainly the for the. they found when they looked at the evidence that had been used to convict him of arson that there was no compelling evidence that arson had even been committed he of self was in the house he himself was burned and he fled the house. and most of the other arguments against him were also later refuted so. yeah it's a very high probability that he may have been innocent the fact that the governor perry said that this did not even make him you know we're right let's go is not only was a grieving father of three put to death but then there was an
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investigation is the new evidence came forward after the execution and governor it was worth it put him on that did he not. that's correct there was both as i said even before the execution there had been this evidence then based on this there was an investigative journalist who look at it very carefully and then an official commission was set up this is so rare you know that they had found really compelling evidence that something had gone terribly wrong in the state of texas but halfway through or even earlier than that as this as they began their work to investigate governor perry changed the head of that commission he changed several members of that commission and it has never officially reported it's it's fine if you know we were lovers and we would never know the guy the guy that well or very governor perry is going to execute tomorrow duane edward box according to terri's
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expert dr walter. is getting the death penalty in texas in order to get the death penalty you have to prove that a person has what's called future dangerousness and this fellow is testimony said that he deserved the death penalty because and i'm quoting now from perry's expert witness he's african-american and the race factor being black increases the future dangerousness and that's why this guy's been executed rather than life in prison for murder texas skipping just just last night. texas says that oh yes you have to have this this this future dangerousness is this typical texas justice. well i don't know how typical it is of all texas justice and certainly again you've just put your finger on really an outrageous flaw in the death penalty process that governor perry was so proud of in that debate i mean the
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idea. that somebody can determine how dangerous you will be in the future with such a certainty that it could be used as a reason to kill somebody rather than simply imprison somebody is on the face of it simply outrageous and. but there are other examples i mean the lack of adequate legal defense you have cases in texas where people have been put to death after the defense lawyer given to a defendant fell asleep during the trial so incompetent and yet the person went on to be convicted of the death don't you have other cases where people have been actually denied and are suing to get d.n.a. evidence that might exonerate them because their counsel didn't insist on looking at d.n.a. evidence until it was too late and all of this means and it's i don't mean to just pick on texas because they're every state where you have the death penalty there are these kinds of flaws and that's why several states recently illinois new jersey
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new mexico have done away with the death penalty altogether. illinois of course there were a number of people who were found to be innocent on death row so many that it became a huge scandal and they have eventually now voted the legislature to do away with the death of the altogether not to mention the fact that it's an enormous waste of money you spend hundreds of millions of dollars more trying to kill somebody that it would take to simply lock somebody up and that money of course could be used to take measures that might actually help to prevent crime while the death penalty has never been shown to have any value and actually preventing murders. there are numerous reasons and numerous states i think texas because of the high number of people that are being killed there on a regular basis and i think there are several just coming up on your i mean i'm
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over the next two years yeah yeah it's a visit larry larry we're out of time but but thank you so much for joining us tonight well thank you for talking about this important subject and people can get over to to amnesty usa dot org if you want to participate in sign that petition the death penalty is a scar on our criminal justice system we need to get rid of it before more innocent people are given that ultimate. after the break by conservative guests daniel helper and brian darling join me tonight when i stand as the lone liberal in our weekly debate. that drives the world the fear mongering used by politicians who makes decisions to break through it through being made who can you trust no one who is the imbue it with a global missionary see where we had a state controlled capitalism is called satchels when nobody dares to
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contributor to red state big government dot com and director of government studies at the heritage foundation yeah ryan thanks tom for that because both of those are let's get started the cvo the congressional budget office you should a warning to the gang of twelve super committee as to literally a warning to the gang saying that the nation is on the verge of another recession and that their actions could make it worse in fact these are their exact words put up on the screen here if paul. the makers wanted to achieve both a short term economic boost and medium and long term fiscal sustainability which are sort of all things preserve and they would have to put in place quote changes in taxes and spending that would widen the deficit now but narrow it later in the decade as in the economy needs a jump start and it's a stimulus right now austerity down the road you can establish both and a lot no problem but that has to be the or earlier in the show we examine the outrageous poverty numbers but it seems to me that the republicans are determined
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to grow the herbert hoover route to force president obama to go the herbert route so that he will have the same outcomes or would my wrong or you already whimper obama rug didn't work so well look at us zero three million no we have not grown at all and we have under one percent growth this year and jobs we've been through the graphs have i've seen the graphs in you know do you think it was americans that don't have a job right now care that the president claims he saved or created three million job wasn't a big enough stimulus but three million jobs is better than none the president the stimulus that stimulus produced three million jobs this one according to moody's analytics according to mark zandi the chief economist of moody's analytics to produce one nine one point nine million that's one of the lower numbers and you know it was one of the guys at s. and p's that was going to two point four million so the republicans are saying wait a minute you you've created three million you created really two million you're going to get you below eight percent you get reelected we can't have that doug
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elmendorf the head of the c.b.o.t. specifically said that he's not dorsey any policy this is these are decisions that lawmakers will have to make and of course lawmakers are have to answer to their constituents what not true again and why here's alex couple the. book again with twelve is just making a recommendation that will be voted up or down by its side of god just a recommendation it they're going to they're going to lay out a committee they're going to lay out a piece of legislation of the as you say resolution a relegation zone spill agusta rubel. that's very different than any any but it's any disease or harmful than anything that in any piece along to any legislature can let legislative work and. my point is this at some point the law makers will have to respond to that and answer to their constituents just as yes they have to do it to represent democracy i think one example would be new york nine where we had a republican running in a in a heavily heavily democratic district and there was a special election that took place yesterday and the republican won by and it's down to eight points right at the strip better that
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a democrat had to carry previously i think you are merely might why close by more than thirty points again when you are making my point that the economy sucks and obama is being blamed for it and the republicans want to make sure that continues we're sort of you know just get we're obviously crowded on growth of nonsense i said that the stimulus kept us from a depression we're in a recession it's obama's economy and people don't want it people want something else they want the really want a better economy one of the more jobs where problems are going to be made that right given a choice between the republican solution and the democratic solutions they are choosing the republican solution what are the republicans what is the republican suggesting they are suggesting we're taxes and and we're government interference create a better job creating environment and that's and the democrats apparently oppose that and that's what herbert hoover tried. work out real well didn't you put the you know bob that plan hasn't worked i don't care how you came if you don't follow any has kept us from a depression it was them were just interested to hidden obama said of forty two the
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first and you will be the end of the rational person looks at what numbers we were losing eight hundred thousand jobs a month when he put that was right so we had a nine point one percent i mean headline figure he didn't do it was sort of a one percent growth this year it is not wonderful and you guys want to keep it there though to say with a good set of why doesn't congress passes a bill no no because it's going to destroy the economy this bill know it's allies you're going to hire two million people you can't have ready my god whack jobs it will save or create government jobs because this is on the backs of governments again we're going to bail out the states we're going to have all these programs to rebuild so and we will move on i just want to make this is a punctuation if you have if you want to comment but what i find amazing is that republicans that government doesn't create jobs and then on the republican debate always has a debate about why created more jobs and he did know i created more jobs than he did when i was in the government. right i thought i should actually like in
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a green i was let's talk about social superiority the way you can regenerate a common that you would avoid going to be he said governments don't create jobs and they can create an environment where job creators can create jobs which is true and those job creators of course are people like you and me no money in our pocket but i are you agreeing with new apps and actually there's a number of things. for democrats are going to capitol hill today in particular i agree with you about the world's record that's probably the only area. but any as all the diversion for democrats gathered on capitol hill today to protest or excuse me to protect social security senator bernie sanders congressman peter de fazio senator barbara boxer and senator sheldon whitehouse they put the keep our social security promises act on the table house and the senate and of course republicans seem hell bent on destroying social security or at least privatizing trying to hand over the bankers here's a quick montage of republican parts on this topic. we also need to know that for
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those who are not yet on the system the system simply has to be reformed in order for it to work i agree that social security is broke and we spent all the money and it's on its last legs unless we do something i believe in the chilean model where you give a personal retirement account option so we can move this from an entitlement society to an empowerment since i think the funding program of social security is not working and congress has been raiding the dollars from social security would pay for annual government expenditures that's wrong it is a monstrous lie. it is a cons he skied to tell monstrous lie ponzi scheme broke the social security administration has two point six trillion dollars in its trust fund it'll pay every benefit one hundred percent of every benefit for the next twenty seven years maybe twenty five if you want to use really like you know this recession is going to last for a long time members and then it will pay eighty percent for ever if we do what these
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three senators and one member of congress proposed today which was simply say anybody with an income over two hundred fifty thousand dollars has to pay the same social security tax that their janitors and secretaries a i mean literally their janitors and secretaries that you know god forbid jamie dimon of j.p. morgan is going to start paying the same school security tax that is janitor does it would be solvent forever i mean i know i'm astounded by this particular is touted by herman cain pulling out the chill layer doug elmendorf how about the head of the c.d.o. he mentioned during the hearing that we referenced earlier that these programs social security and medicare are growing far greater than our economy is growing at a far faster pace these are some unsustainable programs that have to be reformed right over the seventy five year period as i said it's you know it would happen so it's i mean i think it was he said you tax you have people making over two hundred fifty thousand dollars pay the same not even higher tax rate just the same tax rate on social security taxes as their. janitors as wal-mart greeters why is it that the
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you know the chair of the white blankfein at goldman sachs is paying less social security tax than a greeter at walmart please tell me ten years i disagree. i don't know if you've ever seen chalayan models but herman cain could be on to something more and more to the point more to the point i'm very familiar with the chilean model and in fact let me let me just give you you know this was put into place first of all by dictator pinochet in eighty one it was it was basically rolled back by michel bishop way in two thousand and eight and this is this is a quote from our c.t.o. for example although the average rate of return on individual accounts and one thousand nine hundred eighty six is fifteen point nine percent the real return after commissions was just point three percent because many want to ninety five i was told point nine percent of management fees lower the return to two point one percent for a new worker role in ninety six the three point five percent gross yield amounted to a minus six percent return they have an average of sixteen to twenty percent management
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fees because their social security program is being managed by their bank stores our average you know you know what this is are so security national fee is three percent that's i mean the federal government waste so much money a lot more than three percent on managing this program that's ridiculous not only that we have a program but what's wrong with raising the retirement age i mean this is a program that hasn't been money seventy year old eighty year old bricklayers no i want people to work when they can work in and out even more worried about the right well they get their senior give they do with the republicans are talking about and i'm not talking no fringe candidates like herman cain and ron paul but i'm talking about are mitt romney and rick perry which have a which they've made clear in the last few days what they're trying to do is not get rid of social security but the save social security because if nothing is done as you're suggesting you're suggesting something needs to be done and question is so i don't i wouldn't say that i way has the. aspersions on them but there's
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a saying there's suggesting that something needs to be done so we can agree we can agree on this is why doesn't he do it and i think eight is a lie which it is why did i say that people are paying into a trust fund because there is no such entity there is trust in six million six is no one and where is this account is bankrupt which is what i quoted in my going to very far more to the point because i get irritated with design for different time people. who are more reliant on just it's easy reading out great if you simply ask you know that relying on the same is janitor it's fine for ever right outside for the view that's the purpose of this talk about copyright i want to talk about their allies one of the few members of congress who has multiple arrests and an actual plea bargain on his record here's it we've got an actual criminal in congress and the group american family voices filed a formal ethics complaint against they say that he's investing he's investing in goldman sachs mutual funds well while he tried to block
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a wasit against goldman sachs using his official position that he's hiring foreign banks to fight against new regulations against banks and that he's procuring earmarks in his district that would help business properties the guys are familiar with this stuff so what should be taught about this i think he's being attacked because he's doing such a great job investigating the fast and the furious scandal over the department of justice where our government was funneling gods into mexico that came back and were used in the killing of at least one american citizen who worked on the border it's an obviously as well as doing a sure it's a he's doing a great job and it should have been investigated factor in when it started during the bush administration there's information that the white house may have been involved in known about it now where there would be doing that taken the whistleblowers and they're shutting them up i mean they're keeping them in different jobs and firing the one guy that blew the whistle on david broder and their allies to came out and said he's not going to and investigate the fox news.
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possibly fact he said it was yesterday and i'm going to investigate the possibility that pox news was hacking cell phone because we're not like the way we're going to do edit it was a device and he was they were not was there with their own right without investigation the wrong of course not so you need one of the investigate whether m s n b c was doing it too because there's no evidence they were doing any of that there is no allegation that their parent company was doing it now that
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the f.p.p. or. i hope some of her constituents make ask her to keep that promise and see what she'll say then look i think i think it was with one would be a sorry senate candidate and i say that because she's professor she's smart person she's she's qualified but she's going to say the things that she did say well you don't you don't have that many so it's not it's not a smart people and that's really i mean you don't people in a sense because i didn't say it's a good thing i said that people tend that's not who tends to be attracted to politicians or a loser with war and if she wants to start throwing herself under buses that are out of control and for me she should start right now and stop the the obama
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so-called new stimulus plan but you know in massachusetts i hope the best democrat wins whether it be scott brown or elizabeth warren the best so yeah it's sad it's got no. interest yeah and i'm i'm just all in for elizabeth warren i think she's a right so only reason why i like scott brown right there yet is because i was with laura. well we'll see how it plays out gentlemen thank you both for joining us next time. coming up ron paul thinks freedom is the right to die without health insurance so your freedom really means in america and i'm still here.
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let's not forget that we had an apartheid regime right. i think. the well. we never got that that says that keep you safe. all of our. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so silly you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else and you hear or see some other part of it and realized everything
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ten years after nine eleven nader isn't afraid to tell some inconvenient truths about our nation's response to that grim day in an interview with the nation magazine reporter george store night eight nater spoke about the rise of the military industrial complex saying the folly of the military industrial complex is that it not only away our economy and destroys the quality standard of living but it also ensures an empire which is insatiable in terms of a contract that lockheed martin and others want to dominate the world it's just the opposite of defense and empire eventually bauer's its own people haters right and we need more people like him to highlight the dark road in america parked on post nine eleven. the bad washington's revolving door according to a new report by ledges storm over the last ten years fifty four hundred former congressional staffers and four hundred former well makers have gone on to become
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lobbyists not only that more than six hundred former lobbyists have gone on to work in congress as jock friendly but founder of the largest storm noted for every person the american people have elected the sponsor legislation of public benefit special interests have more than one former legislative advocate now working on the inside. that represents a large network of people to influence decisions and to provide valuable intelligence it also represents the erosion of our democracy we need to shut the revolving door on capitol hill for good and hold our lawmakers accountable to voters and not to deep pocketed lobbyists and the very very ugly the drudge report the right wing fear mongering hack website at an interesting take on last night's republican victory in new york's ninth congressional district what used to be congressman anthony weiner's seat plastered across the top of matt drudge was headlined web page was the headline revenge of the jew is the headline
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link to a washington post article that described the district's high percentage of jewish voters and argued that many of them may have been upset with the president's foreign policy toward israel and must vote republican so naturally drudge took it as a jewish revolt against the president or is considering the drudge tries so hard day in and day out to stoke fears of a coming race war it's no surprise he's also trying to spark a religious war too and that's a very serious. for the last thirty years or so republicans have defined what freedom means in america at the debate this week ron paul told us what it means to be free in america. but what he should do is whatever he wants to do and assume responsibility for himself
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but my advice to him would have a major medical policy but not be for you this is how good he doesn't have it and he's i mean leaves in these intensive care for six months who pays that's what freedom is only by taking your own risks this whole idea that you have to. think here. as in free to die alone and broke just like what happened to ron paul's campaign manager fellow by the name account snyder back in two thousand and eight when he was running rand paul's ron paul's campaign when you can track an ammonia he spent two months in the hospital and died four hundred thousand dollars in debt because he didn't have health insurance ron paul doesn't even give his campaign staff health insurance i guess it's because he wants them to be free and then there's rick perry who is governor locked up more people than any other governor in america he loves to spew his definition of free too. as we go forward america needs to be about where you need to be about freedom from overtaxation
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freedom from over litigation over. regulation and let me translate that in english that means freedom from government keeping air water and food safe freedom from government taxes to pay for roads bridges and police officers and freedom i guess from lawyers being allowed to sue on our behalf when a corporation or incompetent doctor ruins our lives that's what republicans want you to believe freedom means freedom mostly from the government and considering our government is made up of we the people then that republican story essentially means freedom from each other maybe that's why some people are arming themselves to the teeth of it but this isn't how freedom used to be defined in america in one nine hundred thirty six president franklin roosevelt defined defined freedom a different way when he famously said an old english judge once an assessor to smell and are not free men.
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