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only one of the great mechanisms do not work to bring justice or accountability. i have every right to know what my government should do if you want to know why i pay taxes. well i would characterize obama as a charismatic version of american exceptionalism. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so for life sleep you think you understand it and then even something else you hear see some other part of it and realize that everything you thought you knew you don't i'm sorry welcome to the big picture. says. let's not forget that we had an apartheid museum right.
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nice tool time awards night against michael college i might be asking yourself who well cullen is an executive in the trump organization and he co-founded the website should trump run he's a registered democrat who wants to see for some reason donald trump run for president and this week a.b.c. news was getting his political opinion on the two thousand and twelve presidential race until i made this comment but if he does get behind were the candidate maybe what's going to happen is that individual will basically lock up the republican nomination donald trump has more than twenty twenty two percent of the fields that's out there as far as republican voters that are diehard donald trump fans and these people will follow him to wherever he goes that's of course why again i said
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he's become now the godfather of politics. but cohen thinks that trump is now the g.o.p. presidential kingmaker godfather i'm not really sure what michael's been smoking here but donald trump has twenty two percent of all the republican primary voters locked up and are going to follow him wherever he goes we really do you guys get these figures because we couldn't find him anywhere this guy actually reminds me of the donald himself he's totally full of crap and a.b.c. news didn't even call him out on it but he asked for any proof of those figures and you remember back in the spring when trump jumped on the burger bandwagon when he was flirting with a run for the white house now going on every news network to spread the birth theory about president obama. but if you think he was born in this country i am really concerned you would destroy started a week ago are you sure they look here have no doctors that remember you have no nurses or the president of the united states to reach them have a little doubt just a little because you grew up and nobody knew when you interview people if i ever
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got the nomination if i ever decide to run you may go back you have to do people from my kindergarten the remember me nobody has a comes forward nobody knows we use until later in his life very strange the whole thing is very strange i have people that actually have been studying it and they cannot believe what they're finding you have people now they have their research i mean in hawaii absolutely and they cannot believe what they're finding. just one or his trumpet or release that information that is private investigators found when they were looking into obama's birth certificate no because trungpa never had any info he was just running his mouth something is famous for it apparently he's teaching art to his disciples as well because trump associates like michael cullen are out there again claiming that the donald is going to play the kingmaker in the g.o.p. field give me a break that claim just actually boggles my mind trump isn't even a politician he has no political clout he's a media star and the fact that from even still gets meetings with some of the
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candidates including a high profile dinner this week with the g.o.p. front runners really confuses me well i generally like with jim perry i was impressed with him meeting with mitt romney next week and that was really pretty much everybody did to really run. yeah i'm sure that jim perry really needs donald trump's endorsement so for making the stupid claim the trump is the person who is going to decide the g.o.p. nominee tax year we're going to give michael cohen tonight still time lord. this time. the light will come down. so why are these singing. today we have a true glimmer of hope surrounding a death penalty case out of texas which we covered earlier this week death penalty in one thousand but was sentenced to die last night lawyers and intending to retry his case after the original testimony that sentenced him was deemed racially
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motivated psychologist by the name of dr walter key hano testified that black people have a higher rate of violent behavior and that was used as a key piece of testimony that ultimately led the jury to sentenced to death over life in prison now is dr use that same argument in six other capital punishment trials around the same time as and in those other cases the accused were given new trials but the texas parole board denied bucks request for clemency governor rick perry showed no signs of stopping his execution in fact perry was in iowa campaigning for the presidency when but was set to die i'll hope was pretty much last bucket already his last meal and just as he was saying his prayers he received the news that the supreme court stepped in and state is execution and the highest court says that there is no guarantee that i'll get a retrial but they will hear his argument that is equal protection and due process rights were violated during his original trial so even if buck still does face lethal injection down the road we'll know the supreme court did step in at least to determine whether they think what happened under fair due process over but isn't
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the only death row inmate that's needing intervention right now troy davis is said to be executed in georgia next wednesday a less the state's parole board or governor steps in and davis is accused of killing an off duty police officer is arguing his innocence from the very beginning has there's never been any physical evidence linked to his conviction and since his original stand in the trial seven of the nine original witnesses have recanted their statements now for years human rights groups have fought for davis' clemency now as the mainstream media has begun to cover davis' impending execution more people are finally turned. in the case there are protests planned for this weekend throughout the u.s. and a letter signed by fifty one members of congress is asking the georgia parole board to grant clemency to davis so for davis and bach their lives still hang in the balance with the supreme court intervening in buck's case i still argue that that really is a glimmer of hope we can only hope the georgia parole board or the georgia governor do the same thing for davis whose guilt is still very much in question. and now
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since nine eleven the amount of money that's spent on homeland security has ballooned to a least seventy five billion dollars per year since nine eleven we also haven't had a successful terrorist attack on u.s. soil so is all that spending been worth it not according to a new analysis details in a book that took a look at cost effectiveness comparing the costs of the security measures with the benefits us tell you in lives saved and damages avert it they found an order for the seventy five billion and enhanced expenditures on homeland security would be deemed a cost effective they would have to deter prevent the oil or protect each year against one thousand six hundred and sixty seven attacks that comes out to more than four major attacks every single day to justify that spending let's find out more about how they got these figures and let's see if we can really use this rational approach and emotional and often irrational world joining me to discuss it is john mueller the woody hayes chair of national security studies and professor at ohio state university he's also the co-author of the book care security and money
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balancing the risks benefits and cost of homeland security john want to thank you very much for joining us tonight and i guess if you can in the simplest way possible if that's possible tell us how it is that you came up with these figures. well it's fairly straightforward analysis people have been using for decades to deal with hurricanes elicit chancy hurricane and straight commerce damage at all costs and so forth and really should spend money to try to protect against it and what we're doing is simply applying the standards we're not pushing any on corpses in standard techniques that have been used for decades throughout the world and applying it to terrorism in the case of terrorism what happens is the lake least of a terrorist attack is very low for example in america's chance of being killed by terrorists is about one in three point five million per year so in general it does make a whole lot of sense to spend a lot of money to make it look like a hoodie to lower a millimeter department security simply not done in this kind of analysis and when you do feel that you sort of suggest that a lot a lot of money is that misspent now you even wrote here that you're
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a part was actually biased and terms of favoring for it to come out as effective i got it started working explain that to us. yes as a standard technique you sort of bias things when you have to choose a range of possibilities you tend to take one set or go against the case you're trying to make so we're burning over backwards we assume a attack is really completely probable we assume that the destruction is comparatively high. risk and if there are special or particularly effective and even when you do there you're still sorting people still there and there are very it's very easy expenditures are very questionable now of course since nine eleven i think i mean here we have seen just as massive homeland security spending a bubble that continues and continues to grow it's going to be a thirty one billion dollar industry right by twenty fourteen but you also take a look at what was put in place before the attacks on nine eleven what we are to spend what resources we are dedicated to homeland security and how much would you
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say was really in place that. is something like twenty billion dollars a year and the increase of expenditures since nine eleven for just a mistake homeland security not having to get anything to eat iraq or anything like that the in total increase about a trillion dollars since nine eleven and that's mostly illegal if we assume the old techniques remain in place were there before nine eleven and just b.l.u. eighty increase which obviously is not because people are worried about hurricanes or anything but because they're worried about terrorism so we feel fairly east there's a sensible way to deal with it and let's really appalling is that these techniques which is i mentioned heard you know very well known that around forever and are applied by the department army and security through sort of natural hazards like earthquakes are not applied in the case of terrorism and it may be that they realize that if they apply them as we did in a straightforward manner that they're going to find that not a lot of money has been missteps and their budgets are really be lower so maybe that's the reason they do. i have actually i mean i think that anyone might be able
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to argue that our response as a country since nine eleven has been a rather emotional one and so here we are trying to apply these techniques are you saving us forever trying to apply this logic a very rational way of thinking and i'm wondering if the two really can go together . well you have to deal with emotions and you want to make people less fearful if possible so that's a good thing if you can do so but ultimately if you don't do it it's sort of scientifically and cold blood at least you're right could you're doing it emotionally and the danger in this case we were dealing with a human life so if you're doing it irrationally what it means frequently is if you're spending you know lots of money that doesn't do much good and you're not doing things that make it work i mean to write a good so he can have a spending a billion dollars and it might say four lives is not it is good spending a billion dollars it's a thousand dollars it's pretty straightforward an obvious and so what you don't do is say well we got this problem it was throw money at it but you have to do is cold
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blooded lee calculate there are a lot you have an infinite budget which no one has so when you spending money on things that don't see very many lives are going to scream the high cost it means that you've lost the opportunity to spend it on things that might seem more like a set a lower cost and the only way to do that is to careful analysis and it's done all the time is an old saying but you don't builders don't build tsunami shelter world in bismarck north dakota. it doesn't it doesn't make sense you might build it someplace else and you will those who excels in california northern minnesota so it's their kind of analysis that needs to be done it's not complicated it's very routine it's been codified for decades and is used throughout the government and through a business and through a regular regulatory agencies and after some reason as you say that something of everything has to do and in fact we've seen quite obvious there which is i think our politicians be able to play upon these emotions to continue funding these projects and even if we look right now secretary of defense leon panetta is
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starting to use this fear of defense cuts that are coming from the super committee as a way to say that it's actually going to lead to higher unemployment because so many people learned how to patent on that over our defense spending and includes defense here at home homeland security as well as in private i want to thank you very much for joining us tonight. i tell you. thought comes and i we have our fireside friday an offensive week for the crown for happy hour for take the flag by car makers the bailout cash a harsh new ad plus an artist make they start lying and very true confession live on fox news that's the sometimes the most. into it only one of which we make you some people would come to bring justice or. i have every right to know what my government should do if you want to know why i pay taxes. i would characterize obama as a charismatic version of american exceptionalism.
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you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so full of sleep you think you understand it and then a glimpse something else you hear see some other part of it and realize that everything is ok if you don't i'm trying hard look at the big picture. let's not forget that we had an apartheid regime right. i think iraq is going to well. we're never going to shows that they are keep them safe get ready because you get
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a regular basis then you know pretty well what i feel about the wars that our countries involved in around the world right now a war in iraq that was launched on a false premise i want it still goes on today for what reason a war in afghanistan that was launched in retaliation for the attacks on nine eleven but it's now dragged on into the longest war in u.s. history coming up on ten years in just about a month a war that's unwinnable that's changed the goal strategies time and time again and it's bankrupting our nation now these wars are launched and paid for by political actors waged by military commanders but not approved by the american people so we have a lot to be frustrated angry with as the civilians of those countries whose lives have been torn apart but beyond those of the top decide on behalf of our country whether we like it or not there are those on the ground who are actually doing the fighting doing the risking and losing of their lives now whatever it is that motivates them to go into the armed services the patriotism economic necessity once they're there it becomes about survival and we've seen it turn ugly we've heard
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horror stories of actions usual killings abuse torture you name it but there are others who hold on to their humanity and whatever way that they can in the midst of what can be considered one of man's ugliest creations which is war so let's talk about sergeant dakota meyer a twenty three year old american who was yesterday awarded the. medal of honor by president obama a very young man who at the age of twenty one knew his friends his brothers were trapped in the middle of a deadly firefight so he defied orders and he went in to get that not once or twice or even three times but five times he another soldier who was behind the wheel the humvee went back it picking up those they could save and those that they couldn't bodies they wanted to return to all in all dakota meyer saved thirty six people americans and afghans risking his life to save others those actions that would justify war as a whole the president awarding him medal of honor doesn't justify the president's policies but it's something we're honoring to kota for as an individual as somebody
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who performed those who wrote deeds and his stories one that should remind all americans too that we are at war that no matter how far from our borders people are dying and the wall sergeant myers showed heroism in the worst moments we should wish that no one else should have to repeat what he went through with since right at this moment wars are going to magically go away since lives will immediately stop being lost as long as our leaders send them into conflict let's zero in on this one man who did what he could in that moment to retain his humanity to save lives and bring back men that home to their loved ones. the time for happy hour and ready to see things argue web writer andrew blake and mike ritz associate editor of reason magazine and reason dot com thanks for joining
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you guys for a look ok so we're going to start off this evening with a new commercial from ford this is the first of a release like this where apparently they come upon this unsuspecting horde buyer and they want to bring them into a room and they don't know there's going be a ton of journalists when they get there and everything supposed to be off the cuff unscripted and we've seen. one of them had like a totally dorky guy this time i don't know maybe got a tea party or something take a look. down kristen's there's. going to run into the inner. critic of buying american important to you i was going to buy another car that was bailed out by a government. i was going to buy from a manufacturer that standing on the room win lose or draw that's what america's about is taking a chance to succeed in understanding when you fail but you gotta pick yourself up and go back to work for it is that company from. hyper starter is i don't believe for a second. come on give me
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a break of the commercial they don't let anything be unscripted but they play this kind of a good line and i've already i don't think you have to be a tea partier to appreciate the fact that ford didn't get a bailout fund i need i agree a little shape when the bill but yeah i think that was fantastic i choose to believe that it was unscripted because i like. people being able to eloquently expressed why you shouldn't buy cars from companies i'm all for it just because now i know what america's about he told me in less than thirty seconds was wrong so you . don't take government bail you do it you would go up yeah i'm going to go trash the buick and go people for no thanks when this all right now take a look at so there's this artist that fox news decided are allowing their program because he's been creating these posters these signs on the roads and he also had a little surprise for one that he wanted to create for them take a look. so we have waited and watched your hands no one wants to see your underwear
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he pointed out or stopping says tell me about your share. of the sensitive parts the flies. got called for you know worse. i think it's like. i mean you know. i guess you weren't. really what you think she handled i think you know that really i think you would anytime you're an attractive woman is his girl a very you know the right thing is like you could say that if you're going to start swearing profusely i really like the job or you're like you know i don't start defending the channel using some kind of a logic or logic rationale but you just have to go. for your hair and right i mean more than it probably worth your full value amien thought specializes in performance art it makes sense to have somebody who also specialize in. this like
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the first time fox ever did anything or like take their side like this guy is so smug and if you watch the whole thing he's waiting for like two minutes to get that zinger in there he just wants these leaks of like washed up art school. that's true or something moves i like realistically have a variable you guys go. missing yeah. he's not getting invited back i was feeling about. ok you know this is just so preposterous if you would have first of has had to apologize to michele bachmann because a tweet was sent out from the school twitter account i was sitting police said somebody spot of the cougar or a mountain lion and the area that week and so then somebody using the account tweeted i didn't know bachmann was in town but. i know they had to apologize now for those of you don't they don't know everything our audience knows cougars are supposed to be older women that prey on younger men attractive attractive older women. me her argument is attractive aside from the crazy i think that she is
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a beautiful woman but if you go to her to have to apologize for it it's funny you should apologize that the university of iowa has no rhythm because they wrote. if there was a rim shot where is the clash symbol is going to become gloom. i think there do apologize because like every pretty much every other school has it's like incredibly insane p.c. code of conduct and they violated it by tweeting that makes sense to apologize otherwise great joke you know kind of class and what i think michele bachmann was she didn't really care about either breaking point i'm pretty lousy of a cracker weasel who i would. leave out a sense of humor about it you see their style she responded later dudes respond they go to the city and color the old lady in the shoe like it was a fairly big tour. of the shot also she's. ok i mean you know she's a true version faster that's what happens when you go out with it or what's his name what was the guy ed rollins is that he kicked off the campaign i mean he would
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have never responded with the old lady. she's going to reference let's move on to this next one which is so ok you come home and your roommate is dead they're not breathing we thought no reason for death you would maybe call nine one one the hospital see what's wrong with these people decide to do something a little different take a look. young and rubinstein are accused of picking up jarrett's body and driving to several cars with the body in the back seat the post reports the night out included a stop at teddy t.'s bar and grill where carrots body stayed in the back seat while young and reuben soon had a few drinks courtesy of gerrit's a.t.m. cart a stop at sam's number three was also on the agenda before they headed back to deer it's home to drop the body off. just so that valerie we don't know the cause of death didn't kill them i'm going to feel differently about this right they killed them they're scumbags despicable but if they did i could imagine
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like being like you know a party. like man like you'd like to have celebrated. he would want and he would want to he would want it on his tab i. know i would look i mean like obviously this defies like metaphysical logic here but if you his spirit would more ok. it's a good thing how did you. know i am i was going to buy my clothes real micros right now bros of a thing happens to me take the card run with it because it's going to get cancelled even killed and i still think was a great job because i would say well we don't know but now obviously they make themselves look a little more suspicious i'm just saying it is like their mug shot if you use his card then maybe you would look at suspicious of the more i can establish i just leave to carry my friends with me but i don't understand why they have to take them with them though i mean again like you know maybe they want to include want to go to times i don't know that you know the human heart is bottomless on. the human
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heart yes. oh ok we're going to wrap this up with a wonderful set of mug shots here for you these are eight guys that were jailed for refusing to attach orange safety triangles to their buggies and i'm going to say they're probably a bit before the days when i'm really really happy that they're public record and they're in prison. kentucky for screwing up the safety laws or apparently there's no horsing around oh get it on the bum. there we go yeah i know this is a great record too because like one of the mennonites refusing to go into the draft and then you know the amish know farmers are free refusing to go through the f.d.a. these guys are feed into the triangle's conscious objectors all the way i love. you so much for joining me tonight out of there for the night so thanks for tuning and it makes when you turn back on monday and the meantime don't forget become a fan of a lot of faith like i follow us on twitter if you missed any of the night's show or any other night you can always catch dolly you stop. and coming up that is.
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