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mechanisms if you don't work up to bring justice or accountability. i have every right to know what my government should do if you want to know why i pay taxes. but i would characterize obama as a charismatic version of american exceptionalism. you know some logistical story and it seems so for sleep you think you understand it and then a glimpse something else you hear see some other part of it and realize that everything is ok you don't know i'm sorry welcome to the big picture. says. let's not forget that we had an apartheid museum right here.
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i think iraq is beatable and one is well. or never governor says they're going to keep him safe get ready if you give them their freedom. for. fear for.
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all right it's time for tonight's tool time warden's night because michael cohen i might be asking yourself who well cullen is an executive any trump organization and he co-founded the web site should trump run he's a registered democrat who wants to see for some reason donald trump run for president and this week a.b.c. news was getting his political opinion on the twenty twelve presidential race when cohen made this comment if he does get behind were the kids that it may be what's going to happen is that individual will basically lock up the republican nomination donald trump has more than twenty twenty two percent of the fields that's out there as far as republican voters that are diehard donald trump fans and these people will follow him to where ever he goes of course why again i said he's become now
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the godfather of politics wait what code pink slip trump is now the g.o.p. presidential kingmaker godfather i'm not really sure what michael's been smoking here but donald trump has twenty two percent of all of the republican primary voters locked up in order to follow him wherever he goes i mean really where do you get these figures because we couldn't find him anywhere this guy actually reminds me of the donald himself he's totally full of crap and a.b.c. news didn't even call him out on it but he asked for any proof of those figures but i remember back in the spring when trump jumped on the burger bandwagon when he was flirting with a run for the white house going on every news network to spread the birth theory about president obama. kitty thank you was born in this country i am really concerned are you with this or started a week ago i used a look here have no characters but remember if you had known her sister the president of the united states the reason i have a little doubt just a little because you grew up in nobody knew when you interview people if i ever got
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the nomination if i ever decide to run you may go back you need to do people from my kindergarten remember me before you as a comes forward nobody knows who he is or till later in his life very strange the whole thing is very strange i have people that actually have been studying it and they cannot believe what they're finding you have people now there are several searching i mean in hawaii absolutely and they cannot believe what they're finding . us wondering has trouble to release that information that is private investigators found when they were looking into obama's birth certificate no because trungpa never had any info he was just running his mouth something he's famous for it apparently he's teaching art to his disciples as well because trump associates like michael color out there again claiming that the donald is going to play the kingmaker in the g.o.p. field give me our break that claim just actually boggles my mind trump isn't even a politician he has no political clout he's a media start and a practice run even still gets meetings with some of the candidates including
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a high profile dinner this week with the g.o.p. front runners really confuses me but i had dinner last night with jim perry i was impressed with him of meeting with mitt romney next week and i've met with really pretty much everybody due to this let me run. yeah i'm sure that jim perry really needs donald trump's endorsement so for making the stupid claim that trump is the person who is going to decide the g.o.p. nominee next year we're going to get michael cohen tonight's real time award. the sky. the light will come down. so must you why are you going to be singing. well today we have a true glimmer of hope surrounding a death penalty case out of texas which we covered earlier this week death penalty inmate duane buck was sentenced to die last night it's lawyers have been attempting to retry his case after the original testimony that sentenced him was deemed
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racially motivated psychologist by the name of dr walter testified that black people have a higher rate of violent behavior and that was used as a key piece of testimony but ultimately led the jury to sentenced to death over life in prison now is dr use that same argument in six other capital punishment trials around the same time as books and in those other cases the accused were given new trials but the texas parole board denied buck's request for clemency governor rick perry showed no signs of stopping his execution in fact perry was in iowa campaigning for the presidency when buck was set to die all hope was pretty much lost bucket already in his last meal and just as he was saying his prayers he received the news of the supreme court stepped in and state his execution and highest court says that there is no guarantee they'll get a retrial but they will hear his argument that is equal protection and due process rights were violated during his original trial so even if buck still does face legal injection down the road we'll know the supreme court did step in at least to determine whether they think that happened under fair new process however but isn't
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the only death row inmate that's meeting intervention right now troy davis is set to be executed in georgia next wednesday unless the state's parole board or governor steps in and davis is accused of killing an off duty police officers argued his innocence from the very beginning as there's never been any physical evidence linked to his conviction and fences originals that in the trial seven of the nine original witnesses have recanted their statements now for years human rights groups have fought for davis' clemency now as the mainstream media has begun to cover davis' impending execution more people are finally turned. in the case there are protests planned for this weekend throughout the u.s. and a letter signed by fifty one members of congress is asking the georgia parole board to grant clemency to davis so for davis and bach their lives still hang in the balance with the supreme court intervening and bucks case i still argue that that really is a glimmer of hope we can only hope the georgia parole board or the georgia governor do the same thing for davis whose guilt is still very much in question. and now since nine eleven the amount of money that's spent on homeland security has
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ballooned to at least seventy five billion dollars per year since nine eleven we also haven't had a successful terrorist attack on u.s. soil so it's all have spending been worth it not according to a new analysis details in a book that took a look at cost effectiveness comparing the costs of the security measures with the benefits us tell you in lives saved and damages a verdict they found in order for the seventy five billion an enhanced expenditures on homeland security would be deemed a cost effective they would have to deter prevent foil or protect each year against one thousand six hundred and sixty seven attacks that comes out to more than four major attacks every single day to justify that spending so let's find out more about how they got these figures and let's see if we can really use this rational approach and emotional and often irrational world joining me to discuss it is john mueller the woody hayes chair of national security studies and professor at ohio state university he's also the co-author of the book care security and money balancing the risks benefits and cost of homeland security john want to thank you
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very much for joining us tonight and i guess if you can in the simplest way possible if that's possible tell us how it is that you came up with these figures. that's fairly straightforward analysis people have been using for decades to deal with hurricanes with the chance of hurricanes straight come much damage at all costs and so forth and whether you should spend money to try to protect against it and what we're doing is simply applying a standards we're not pushing any armed forces in standard techniques that have been used for decades throughout the world in a plane of the terrorism in the case of terrorism what happens is the likelihood of a terrorist attack is very low for example when america's chance of being killed by a terrorist is one in three point five million per year so in general it is make a whole lot of sense to spend a lot of money to make it look like he did lower he learned the government security simply not done this kind of analysis and when you do do it you sort of secure civil laws a lot of money has been misspent now you even wrote here that you're
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a part was actually biased and terms of favoring for it to come out as effective i know it still didn't work can you explain that to us. yes as a standard technique to sort of bias things when you have to choose a range of possibilities you tend to take ones that go against the case you're trying to make so we're turning over backwards we assume the attack is rich compared to the probable we assume that the destruction is comparatively high. risk and if you're misspent you look particularly effective and even when you do there you still find it will still go there very it's very the expenditures are very questionable now of course since nine eleven as you document here we have seen just this massive homeland security spending a bubble that continues and continues to grow it's going to be a thirty one billion dollar industry right by twenty four team but you also take a look at what was put in place before the attack on nine eleven and what we are to spend what resources we already dedicated to homeland security and how much would you say was really in place back. it was something like twenty billion dollars
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a year and it's the increase of expenditures since nine eleven for just a mistake homeland security not having to do with the iraq war or anything like we're the in total increases about a trillion dollars since nine eleven and that's mostly deal if we assume the old techniques remain in place that were there before nine eleven and just b.l.u. eighty increase which obviously is not because people are worried about hurricanes or anything but because they were terrorism so we feel fairly nice there's a sensible way to deal with it and it's really appalling is that these techniques which is i mentioned you know very well known forever and are applied by the department of homeland security for sort of natural hazards like earthquakes are not a plague in the face of terrorism and it may be that they realize that if they apply them as we get ministry for. that they're going to find that not a lot of money is spent mistranslate and their budgets are really be lower so maybe this recently who do. well how about here i mean i think that you know one might be
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able to argue that our response as a country since nine eleven has been a rather emotional one and so here we are trying to apply these techniques that you say have been used for ever try to apply this logic a very rational way of thinking and i'm wondering if it really can go together. well you have to deal with emotions and you want to make people less fearful of course also there's a good thing if you can do so but ultimately if you don't do it this sort of scientifically and cold blooded leads you might put it you're doing it emotionally and the danger in this case we're dealing with human life so if you're doing it irrationally what it means frequently is if you're spending you know lots of money that doesn't do much good and you're not doing things that make it good i mean might be spending a billion dollars and it might say four lives is not as good as spending a billion dollars it would save a thousand dollars that's pretty straightforward an obvious and so which you don't do is say well we've got this problem here let's throw money here what you have to do is cold blooded lee calculate that unless you have an infinite budget which no
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one else so when you're spending money on things that don't see very many lives are going to it extremely hard because it means that you've lost the opportunity to spend on things that might see more like a said lower cost and the only way to do that is to careful analysis and it's done all the time so no sorry but you don't build a big don't build tsunami shelter wall in bismarck north dakota. it doesn't it doesn't make sense you might build it someplace else and you know those take shelters in california real minnesota so it's that kind of analysis that needs to be done it's not complicated it's very routine it's been codified for decades and is used throughout the government and through a business and through a regular regulatory agency and i never saw a reason as you say that something of a working with today when in fact we've seen quite obvious there which is i think our politicians be able to play upon with emotions to continue funding these projects and even if i look right now secretary of defense leon panetta is starting
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to use this fear of defense cuts that are coming from the super committee as a way to say that it's actually going to lead to higher unemployment because so many people are now dependent on the overall defense spending and includes defense here at home on homeland security as well as in private and i thank you very much for joining us tonight. my pleasure thanks a lot. thought on fire we have our fireside friday and a family stick around for happy hour or take the flat a carmaker think it all out cash a harsh new ad plus an artist make a startling and very true confession live on profits that's the fundamental. into that american military mechanisms do don't work out to bring justice or accountability. i have every right to know what my government should do if you want to know why i pay taxes. well i would characterize obama as a charismatic version of american exceptionalism. you
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know sometimes you see a story and it seems so for sleep you think you understand it and then when something else here sees some other part of it and realized everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm sorry welcome to the big picture. says. let's not forget that we had an apartheid regime right. i think. even one well. we're never government says they're going to keep you safe get ready because you get your freedom.
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for. to tonight's fireside your host. this friday we need to take some time out to honor someone who really is a hero now if you watch the show on a regular basis then you know pretty well what i feel about the wars that our
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countries involved in around the world right now a war in iraq that was launched on a false premise i want it still goes on today for what reason a war in afghanistan it was launched in retaliation for the attacks on nine eleven but it's now dragged on into the longest war in u.s. history coming up on ten years in just about a month a war that's unwinnable that's changed goals strategies time and time again and it's bankrupting our nation now these wars are launched and paid for by political actors waged by military commanders but not approved by the american people so we have a lot to be frustrated angry with as the civilians in those countries whose lives have been torn apart beyond those of the top decide on behalf of our country whether we like it or not there are those on the ground who are actually doing the fighting doing the risking and losing of their lives now whatever it is that motivates them to go into the armed services the patriotism or economic necessity once they're there it becomes about survival and we've seen it turn ugly we've
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heard horror stories of action judicial killings abuse torture you name it but there are others who hold on to their humanity and whatever way that they can in the midst of what can be considered one of man's ugliest creations which is war so let's talk about sergeant dakota meyer a twenty three year old american who was yesterday awarded the medal. of honor by president obama a very young man who at the age of twenty one knew his friends his brothers were trapped in the middle of a deadly firefight so he defied orders and he went on to get that not once or twice or even three times but five times he another soldier who was behind the wheel of a humvee went back in picking up those they could save and those if they could it but it's bodies they wanted to return and all in all dakota meyer saved thirty six people americans and afghans risking his life to save others that was actions to justify war as a whole the president awarding him a medal of honor doesn't justify the president's policies but it's something worth honor and to kota for as an individual as somebody who performed those who were
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good deeds and was stories one that should remind all americans too that we are at war that no matter how far it might be from our borders people are dying and the law sergeant myers showed heroism in the worst moments we should wish that no one else should have to repeat what he went through with since right at this moment wars are going to magically go away since lives will immediately stop being lost as long as our leaders send them into conflict let's zero in on this one man who did what he could in that moment to retain his humanity to save lives and bring bad men back home to their loved ones. the time for a happy hour and you will be deceiving as argue web writer andrew blake and mike ritz associate editor of reason magazine and reason dot com thanks for joining me guys sherlock ok so we're going to start off this evening with
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a new commercial from four this is the first one of a release like this where apparently they come upon this unsuspecting ford buyer and they want to bring them into a room and they don't know there's going be a ton of journalists and they get there and everything supposed to be off the cuff unscripted and we've seen one. but how they can totally. this time i don't know they've got a tea party or something take a look. i'm kristen's there's. we're going to run into the inner. critic was it buying american important to you i was going to buy another car that was bailed out by a government. i was going to buy from manufacturer that standing on their own win lose or draw that's what america is about is taking the chance to succeed in understanding when you fail that you've got to pick yourself up and then go back to work for it is that company. all right for starters i don't believe for a second for the bad. guy give me
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a break of the commercial they don't let anything be scripted but they do this kind of good line when i was already right i don't think you have to be a tea partier to appreciate the fact that ford didn't get a bailout i agree a little shape when the bill happened but yeah i think that was fantastic i choose to believe that it was unscripted because i like. people being able to eloquently express why you shouldn't buy cars from bell company i'm all for it just because now i know what america's about he told me in less than thirty seconds well i'm through the wrong. don't take government bail now do it do it up yeah i'm going to go trash the buick. or when this one all right now take a look at so there's this artist that fox news decided allow on their program because he's been creating these posters these signs on the roads and he also had a little surprise for one that he wanted to create for them take a look. so we got it in your pants no one wants to see your underwear he pointed
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out or stopping says well if you're sure. the sentence is. called for yours. i mean if. i get you and you never really well you think she handled it well i think of that really i think it would at any time you're an attractive movie does this feel a. writer use like you could say that is she going to start swearing profusely in a really good job or are you sure you know how to start defending the channel using some kind of a logic or logic rationale but you just have to go change your hair and guys i mean we're going to totally words you're full vi yeah i mean thought specializes in performance art it makes sense to have somebody who also specializes in. this like
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the first time fox ever did anything or like take their side like this guy is so smug if you watch the whole thing he's waiting for like two minutes to get the zinger in there and he just wants these likes of like walk to school. through bush sinuses i agree i think we have a very large you guys build mary you know this is yeah. he's not getting invited back i was feeling about balance ok you know this is just so preposterous the university of iowa has had to apologize to michele bachmann because a tweet was sent out from the school twitter account i would say the police somebody spot of the cougar or a mountain lion and the area that week and so then somebody using the account tweeted i didn't know bachmann was in town but. i know they had to apologize now for those of you don't know obviously our audience knows cougars are supposed to be older women that prey on younger men attractive attractive all the women. me her own argument is attractive aside from the crazy i think that she is
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a beautiful woman. to have to apologize for it it's funny you know they should apologize at the university of iowa has no reason because they wrote but i'm bummed that there was a room where is the cliff symbol is going to have a good i'm going. i think they're to apologize because like every pretty much every other school has this like incredibly insane code of conduct and they violated it by putting that makes sense to apologize otherwise great joke you know kind of classy i think michele bachmann was she didn't really care about either breaking point i'm pretty lousy of a crowd always more good i would you like a sheep that she'll leave out of thank you very bad if you are spies she responded like her do you respond with a girly sitting color the old lady in the shoe that was like the really big. color will be the shot also she's. ok i mean you know she's a true version as well because we got rid of what's his name and what was the guy a bronze is that really kicked off the campaign i mean he would have never
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responded to the old lady. she's going to miss and let's move on to this next one which is so ok you come home and your roommate is dead you're not grieving we thought no reason for that you would maybe call nine one one the hospitals he was wrong with these people decide to do something a little different take a look. young and rubinstein are accused of picking up jarrett's body and driving to several bars with the body in the back seat the post reports the night out included a stop at teddy t.'s bar and grill where carrots body stayed in the back seat while young and ruben soon had a few drinks courtesy of gerrit's a.t.m. cart a stop at sam's number three was also on the agenda before they headed back to jared's home to drop the body off. just so. we we don't know the cause of death i would say if they didn't kill him i'm going to feel differently about this right like if they kill them they're scum bags despicable but if they did i could imagine like being like you know
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a party. man like you'd like to actually elaborate. on that he would want and he would want to he would want it on his tab or you. know i would look i mean like obviously this defies like metaphysical logic here but if you his spirit would ok the critics are going to. examine how did you. and i am over. by my god is real my bros right now bros if anything happens to me take the card run with it because it's going to get cancelled he really killed it i still think was a great move good job because i would rather see what we don't know but now obviously they make themselves look a little more suspicious and are saying it is likely they did their mug shot if you use his card then maybe you would look at suspicious of the more by going to just leave to carry my friends with me but i don't understand why they had to take him with them though i mean again like you know maybe they want to include among the good times i don't know that you know the human heart is bottomless on the. bottom
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with the human heart yes yes oh ok we're going to wrap this up with a wonderful set of mug shots here for you these are eight guys that were jailed for refusing to attach orange safety triangles to their buggies and i'm going to say because they're probably a bit before the days when i really really happy the public record their prison. kentucky for screwing up the safety laws were apparently there's no horsing around . but on the bum. there we go. our new record too because like one of the mennonites refusing to go into the draft or the . farmers referred refusing to go through the f.d.a. now these guys are to do the triangle's conscious objectors all the way of awesome awesome thank you so much for joining me tonight tonight thanks for tuning in to make sure you come back on monday in the meantime don't forget become a fan of the our show on faith like i follow us on twitter and if the night or any other night you can always catch dolly you drop the letter still coming up that is
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