tv [untitled] September 17, 2011 11:31am-12:01pm EDT
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following their seizure by calls of a police helped by nato and e.u. forces local serbs have blocked the roads leading to crossings to protest against what they called the unilateral action of course of us i'll be. up next hour to spotlight meets a jazz idol whose yearning for experimentation gave birth to a new genre that's coming your way next on our t.v. . hello again or welcome to spotlight the interview show on our take i'll bring our vent today my guest is chick corea. jazz was once called the music of the facts there's another one which i like better jazz or rather the blues is when a good man feels that why today's guest is neither he is neither fact nor sad but this part and he's one of the legends in jazz and
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a pioneer of jazz fusion one of his album is called past present and future years so what does the future hold for jazz lovers his jazz idol of the present grammy award winner career. at the age of just twenty four she started playing the piano influenced by his father a jest trumpet player he grew up immersed in the music and culture all the general consequently sent to study into music colleges he became bored by the theory and instead chose the path of improvise ation he seemed to become one of the stars of the evan garde jazz scene playing gigs with the greats such as miles davis together with the legendary trumpeter cheeks talents all the birth of the jazz fusion movement during his career has won fifty grammy awards.
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and welcome to the show thank you thank you very much for being going to disappear . welcome to moscow yeah i love moscow well first of all this this album i just i just mentioned past present and the future is this two thousand and one is it yeah yeah something like that when i when i first saw it when i first heard i heard it and i feel this is something you says those papers you get when you buy oil is. this that that those that do that something to do with it oh why why the futures i had no idea well futures is plural because it's not just one in one person's mind it's in all of our minds so futures you know my future my my friends
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future your future and it's how we all see it when people are asked about well what what's it going to be in the future you know it's you can get as many differences is there are people and i'm fine unfortunately we have we still have passed in total two because some. different people see it differently. for instance was dedicated to my mother and she had just passed away right around that time when it was a dedication to her and so you know the whole history which to. well dignity listen to me to. be catered to but the whole album was just as it's ok you pioneered as i also mentioned has been. in the use of electronic instruments in music you like to experiment a lot with electronics but lately. as i have heard you prefer you prefer unplugged
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the gigs is that true why well it's not so much a preference as it is i actually do still both but there's an intimacy about playing just the piano and it's my original instrument to like i started out with the piano and i love it and so. there's an intimate contact with the audience that can only be gotten that way but with electric with electric music for instance i have a new reunion tour this year with a new version of return to forever metal definitely will be plugged in. return to forever was the first album you ever published in russia it was released in the soviet union right and i got it i remember getting it when i was about fifteen or sixteen like that and and. actually it was actually leaked first ever jazz fusion album that they had that we had that was available in the in
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soviet russia how did it happen who made it happen i don't know but i know that just before that i would get letters and i would meet people who were friends of people in russia in russia or in musicians and they had all passed around tapes and cassettes that's what we did the weekend but at this point the that record label no no no they. actually officially released that first recording which was my first record with return to forever and it was i thought wow this is great and you get some money for it did you it was a did they pay you anything i don't think so no they should know it was an official servant i mean i can collect. this rubles this is done soviet robles they weren't as good as they are. ok and now speaking speaking about jazz well don't you think that today jazz is sort of
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a losing its original meaning to ten to ten people ten meters people to make people feel better because there's many people today think the jazz that pop is for the people of pop music but jazz is like for the elite for the connoisseurs professionals there i don't think i think. and i do. it gets around but it's not really true actually all all music i see is being a music that is intended to make people feel good and are all music but there are so many different tastes in music that that's why there are different styles you know in life keeps changing jazz keeps changing everything is changing but the in the original intent i think never changes which is the artist the musician wants to give something beautiful to the public here you spoke about playing musical and tronic music but the the fact of today is that millions never hear
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your acoustic sound because whatever they hear is digital isn't there i found gameboy play stations whatever it's elektra onic so what have you play before people hear it becomes electronic anyway so what's the use of playing a custom i would say it's always been a look tronic even when that needle was going around a lot on the vinyl it was still like tronic you know and it's just like i said. different ways of expression in different media now i myself personally use all of the digital sounds to listen to because they're very convenient and that's why people like it i think you carry around a little in your hand a little phone and so forth you know listen when people when people play electronic instruments i think you said something like that too when some years ago like it gives us more possibilities it gives us more instruments with sound with the with special effects stuff like that but then you get back to to to to to an ordinary
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would an acoustic piano does that mean that the possibilities this instrument gives you all like the acoustic guitar are unlimited i mean it's more than any other time device can give is that true well i think that the the the unlimited thing that you're talking. it is not his and anything to do with the instrument has to do with one's mind and imagination so if this is unlimited then whatever you touch is going to be unlimited it's the electric instruments have one use like a painter has takes this color that color uses oil he uses acrylic he uses crayons when it's a different medium so you have electric one medium you have all these different mediums but the unlimited mrs. you see in. you you had several periods in your career of atlantic acoustic i thought of gardens the different
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types of but as a matter of factness some of the albums sound like that then. but is there is there a favorite period is their favorite style their favorite album. favorite album there's too many of them you know my favorite thing is the process i love the process and like for instance now is my favorite period because i'm i'm getting to do so many different things during the course of a year i have i have my piano solo i do duets like with gary burton and by being fair and i do different various kinds of trio work and men with the advent of the reunion of return to forever i now get to put a more rock kind of music together with stanley clarke and the boys and. i'm having a ball less than. many jazz musicians for for some reason like interpreting
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mount st oh well you know months it's going to be. probably i don't know the most popular musician that ever lived in terms of numbers he certainly is in terms of how many people have recorded and listen to his music how often it's played in present present day you know the mobile phones and i'm telling you most was the guy and actually you know i personally love love his music is my fact i didn't invent recently where where i was asked to to do an improvisation on something by mozart because it's known that i love his music so i want my going to do i don't want to play a piano concerto i'm playing all by myself so i went to my mozart library and i found some songs that he wrote when he was five and six years old there are no songs that stick tunes to just sit well they're compositions short with beautiful
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little gems and melodies so i chose one and it's this perfect little piece and i learned it and then began to improvise with it you know it is an attraction you know he was he was the most popular musician might still be do you think he would have played jazz if he was absent lewdly and without a doubt and so many people agree with that he was an improviser and he was kind of a courageous guy he went against the king's wishes and wanted to have his own band and so forth he was a jazz man in the. early i believe so. what do jazz musicians in general get from classical music because jazz is supposed to be revolutionary jazz supposed to be against but still but still you like to turn to classical music for what for the jazz musicians in the classical musicians the orchestral musicians have one particular thing in common which are which they both like fine fine music
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and they both take it very seriously how to fly. how to perform on their instrument like the jazz musicians i learned a great deal from classical pianists for instance in fact in fact one of my favorite classical pianist of all times the russian it was why me horowitz is one of the guys i also love glenn gould i love an event he can sing who is a current great pianist and i learn from them because they command their instruments so well and i think the classical musicians they listen to the jazz musicians and they see us like playing spontaneously and making songs up on the spot and improvising and they they like that they would like to do that too so there's a lot to be learned in the connection between classical musicians and jazz like for instance this summer i i'm i'm recording in new york my second piano concerto and i've gathered together in new york thirty musicians who are classical players who
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welcome back to spotlight i'm al. you know and just to remind you that my guest in the studio today is chair korea jazz legend and grammy award winner. chick you. just before we took a break start talking about the russian musicians that you've been listening to the russian classical pianist can you say that russian music in general had any impact on your because because this would have been strange because you're an american and the i mean you play jazz in america where jazz was born so so but still does that mean that some other music could have an impact on other grown you doesn't it have one of and it always will what else do you need that you have what i have everything and i didn't i don't when i listen to music and i get attracted to the creativity of musicians so it's not the style so much. like for instance for
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instance i sometimes i recently i came across two young young pianists like we're talking like thirteen years old fourteen years old and one is a guy from israel and israeli guy another guy is a guy from tbilisi georgia who's now in new york and they sat down and played for me and. it's inspiring and you have this fresh mind that is unencumbered by. the usual ideas they haven't had time to be when you were fifteen sixteen fourteen year old kid playing here get inspired is that the feeling he's going to be better than me do you have this fear you should kill him and you know i have the feeling i want to hear him play someone i can steal everything that he does and get inspired by the guy in fact i'm going to i'm going to make a duet with these guys and because i also want to help them and i also want to hang
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with them i love i love that kind of spirit but that not only applies to young music. that applies to every kind of mean we spoke about elton john earlier he's a favorite of mine in a completely different kind of music i don't play music like him but like he does but i'm inspired by his songwriting and his singing and his and his message. but your music like maybe yours of music had did influence even elton john like a song for guy it could have been one of the albums. that. the subject area oh yeah ok well jazz is not as popular in russia as it could be unfortunately some of the reasons are in a report by spotlights you know the me there. while the first jazz bands in the u.s. a song appeared as early as the one nine hundred twenty s. the music was never quite accepted by the soviet regime it associated just with the
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capitalist lifestyle forgettin the music originated in poor african-american communities even in the later years of the us is so when jazz musicians were no longer persecuted they still found themselves on the periphery of mainstream soviet art. after the collapse of the jewish society jazz in russia hardly manage to get beyond that there were three well names like louis armstrong and duke ellington would certainly ring a bell with most russians wouldn't perform was only known by a small number of devoted jazz fans jazz hard living gets unerring in russian t.v. radio stations mass media it is too preoccupied with the life of the stars to change the situation young russian before most. jazz decide in favor of book music as it's an easier way to make a living there are only two days a year that jazz music makes headlines in russia it's one fans from across the
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country flock to the are one hundred. he stayed west of mosco for the jets festival the country's biggest open a jazz event has grown in popularity with more and more musicians from russia and the brood taking part but the first of all don't last the weekend and for the rest of the year jazz in russia seems to be almost completely out of the limelight. i call this is sad is there because because i know a lot and hundreds of people who are devout as a matter of fact this this young lady here the makes this one hundred jazz fest possible she's a fan of my work together as newsman and then for for a television news company so why do you think there are countries where jazz is like a religion and a countries like russia where jazz is just well sort of music that some people
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listened well you know and i don't think it's in my travels i haven't found it it's so different from country to country there might be different the scale the scale of the mental rules but usually part music is pop music and jazz music is usually relegated to a few people who like to be more adventurous with me but it is true all over the world that you can make you can make real bucks and jazz is that right and what make real big bucks i mean you meet will many would if you play by money means nothing when it comes to jazz musician i think and i don't think that's a big deal i mean i've made a good living and i know a lot of others all of the guys i play with we we make enough money to be able to do what we like to do and i don't think it's our object to make big bucks but more and more to continue to be able to to it's almost a trick what we do because because i wonder every night i go out in front of audiences and all these people turn up and i get to do exactly what's in my mind without any instruction from any higher authority and i like this film that
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producers are you. you're not that kind of slaves of your managers and produces there's the pop pop pop the good guys. you know even pop guys it depends on how a musician they tell them what is the way or what to say what to whatever when it's you know it's not my thing you just do it everywhere it is well you know when i have normal life you and well when i played with herbie man for instance in the sixty's in new york i was a young man i was twenty two years old or something like that and herbie mann just was just starting a record label so he said chick come in come in make a record for me i said all great i've got this music i'm working on he said yeah but i'd like you to use a couple of the players and some tamales i said well no that's not my music kirby you know so i declined and he kept asking me and he kept saying well just include a little cowbell or something i said well that's not my and finally he said go do
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what you want so i made my first recording with doing what i wanted and i stayed that way for my whole life what was wrong with cowbell i think it was clear with. my eyes it was something different well it's not the problem of the bell itself it's about the who's idea if it was your idea it would have been ok i didn't fit my music at the moment ok can you can you recall your first visit to the youth the song because because i like hosking people people of your scale that have visited this soviet russia yeah and are still around like this person is very different so some say it was ok but something you know that wasn't all from communist tyranny country what do you recall was it ok it was a cool i had several days here and we were sponsored by the u.s. state department at the time and generally eighty's ambassador hartman i said it was nineteen eighty two eighty two eighty two and. we were told that there were
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no public performances allowed so so the u.s. . ambassador used to sponsor house here in moscow to invite russian people musicians in the right or the low and i think my first visit here was with gary burton actually playing with tonight and i found it to be a really exciting experience to meet finally some musicians from russia who i was i was able to talk to. you one said i quote the most important thing for me is to understand the musicians who i play with and question is that the reason why you've been playing with. forty years because you do understand well. i figure that. if i have a good understanding of the musicians i work with and we have a good report and. there's a lot of creativity happening between us then that's the product that is what
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people are going to experience you see so i put i put my attention on that first because that's my product that's what what my result. and that's why and also for me as a personal fulfillment it's how i learned more when you when you play your music in front of an audience what's the main thing for you self-expression finding a common language with the audience and communication having fun for yourself or making people have fun well can you pick one of these which is the most to know because. they all apply so i think i want to get i like different colors i think that's one of the misunderstandings about this thing do you play for yourself or do you play for the audience you can't separate that out of a person is not like that you like to make the whole scene work you like to i like to do what i love to do i like to bring what i love to do to the audience and i
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like to see them enjoy it too and so i make adjustments both ways. and i mean if i were here's an example if i were to play for you the music that i personally only me just love i think you'd walk out the room after the ten seconds but but i i play i take a part of the music that i love and i put it in a way that i think people will be able to understand it because you want to be commercial because because you want content because you what he does i want to make people feel good and if i don't make people feel good with my music i've lost do you teach music. not directly you know why because it's impossible to teach somebody not only jazz no no i do most of my. teaching or whatever you want to call that kind of thing by just by example and i have one lesson that i tell everybody so my my my lesson is very short it's one sentence in fact it's three words that it's something for yourself think feel so. thank you thank you very much for being
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with us ok and just to remind you that my guest today was chicory a jazz legend and grammy held water and that's it for now from all of us here you can always drop us a line and leave or try to divide the people you like to spotlight will be back with multiverse that comment i don't want going on and that outside question time so then take care and thanks for the stuff thank you for giving that.
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